What Happened to Basim After Assassins Creed Mirage?
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- What Happened to Baisim After Assassins Creed Mirage? This is a question that many might have with the ending of AC Mirage being quite confusing. Leave your comments down below on your thoughts and opinions.
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Loki wasnt killed by this guard. He somehow escaped and weasled himself into that room where everyone uploaded their mind into yggdrasil as you can see in valhallas isu ending Clip. You can also see how the world directly begins to get destroyed. No way loki got trapped inside this prison after that and then got killed by this guard or odin.
Right
Maybe he uploaded his consciousness into computer, and then was killed.
@@hannibalburgers477 that's what happened in Valhalla, yes.
Nehal did, im guessing she was lokis assistant or maybe even one of lokis reincarnations
@@Cyrex_XIII Nehal, the Jinn/friend/tormenter is the representation of Loki's memories. Like how Eivor sees Odin as a representation of Havi's memories. Eivor rejects Havi, while Basim accepts Loki.
The Yggdrasil machine is in Norway. The structure beneath Alamut is a prison that was made for Loki by Odin and the other Asgardian Isu, because Loki killed Baldr, Odin's son. In Norse myth, Loki is punished by being chained in a cave while a snake's venom drips onto his face, but one of Loki's wives hold up a bowl preventing the poison from touching him. According to Norse legend, here Loki would stay until he breaks free on Ragnarok.
Basically, in AC lore the same thing happens, but with the First civilization instead of traditional Norse gods. And the structure that Loki was imprisoned in awakens Loki in Basim.
Your theory looks very accurate. I think this is what the original idea really is. Thank you for your commentary! It helped me fully understand the ending and the concept of the gods story in the game 🙏👍
Lokis wife that held a bowl for him is non other than Alethiea from assassins creed odyssey
I wish we could have learned more about what basim has planned in the modern day, considering its william miles going through his memories. Now that he knows, how is he going to proceed? I'm very intrigued
W M did jackshit in 15 years, always reacting to the Templars. You can't win a battle if you are not the one choosing the ground. I am sure Basim will attempt to hijack the authority
@@hannibalburgers477 i agree, it's time for an upgrade, as Basim mentioned in Valhalla.
And seen the ending of Mirage, I'm sure Basim is gonna try to take the lead.
Honestly? I'm down for that, Basim is the most interesting character that happened to AC after Desmond.
My thing is, where is this whole story going? So many years just to get blue balled every game
Tbh the story is progressing forward the first time since black flag and the Desmond games. Rogue was a game to tie the Kenway games together and begin unity. Unity and syndicate didn't really do anything for the story at all. Only in valhalla has the story progressed as a continuation from ac3, with Origins and odyssey setting up layla and the staff of hermes before it. Valhalla has also set up the new story with modern day basim and mirage as a game to show how valhalla happened at all and to flesh out our new multi game protagonist more
@@talorw8930Layla, my least favorite character in the whole series... quickly followed by Basim but of course lol
Bruh they dropped the ball after AC3 story wise. Like the rest of the games I only cared for the historical aspect other than that where was it going? Nowhere.
Nd they could’ve continued Desmond lineage with his son. But majority of us wouldn’t know if they read the comics smfh.
They changed the whole issue storyline tho so it makes no sense.
I'm so curious how AC Red is going to tie into the Norse Mythology. As if we're entering Japanese God Lore that opens up a whole new can of worms
Why would Red tie into Nose mythology? It’s going to be its own thing.
@@nightwing4457 because mirage literally took place in the Middle East and still has Norse Mythology in it and red is the next game in line with basim as the modern day protagonist (Isu Outcast Loki)
@@Ish7923 You should keep up with the news. The modern day is rumored to be in the last decade of the 21st century and it’s on the Infinity platform. Basim being the modern day protagonist is low. Plus the only “Norse mythology” in Mirage was just Basim as Loki. There was no other Norse mythology in Mirage.
I knew it would happen but it's still sad to see Basim's consciousness die with Loki taking over
Basim didn't die. He learned to coexist with Loki, unlike Eivor who resists Odin at every turn
I don't think his consciousness dies. And also don't think it is Basim AND Loki. It is just Basim. And it's also just Loki. They are the same person with the same mind. But character gets shaped by experiences throughout life. Basim grows up as Basim. But he is also Loki. And parts of his character seem alien and aren't quite accepted by himself, because the memories of these experiences are subconscious - hence these traits being projected as Nehal, someone EXTERNAL to Basim. It is only at the end of Mirage when Basim realises that those traits and the experiences that shaped them aren't external but an integral part of him. That he has lived before. It's more of an awakening and self finding than a case of something external taking over, I think.
Lokis conscious merges in basims physcal body , so yeah what ever made basim “BASIM” died when he merged hands with Nehal
Nehal= Loki (consiousness)
Basim= Basim (body)
Basims consciousness is lost in the grey , kind of like Bartholmew Roberts in Ac black flag
Basim wasn't taken over by Loki, he just became aware of his past life. Remember he always made up his mind regardless of what Loki wanted. Even Nehal complained he never followed her lead or advice and they often disagreed but Basim always had his way. Like when he infiltrated the palace it was against Loki's wish. In the end they simply merged their personalities into one. Basim became sneakier and a bit more cynical than he used to be.
You can see a lot of Mirage Basim in Valhalla Basim, many expressions he uses in both games, and personality-wise he mentions his obsession for knowledge, his father and brothers, and unlike Loki Basim says he is excited by danger, so I think Basim is still mostly in charge even after they merge together.
Love ur content wizzo,excellent explanation and editing is uptop,I can defo tell u put a lotta effort in ur vids,keep up the hard work,and again love ur vids
A great summary. The only other thing to add, and theorize on, is that Basim was using the animus to view Mirage. Because we saw no one in the present time in this game, and Basim was pulled from Valhalla by Layla. He also has the Staff of Hermes. So now Basim’s story comes as close to the Isu as AC: Odyssey, but will (maybe?) finally wrap up the whole storyline. Perhaps a set of games just for Basim, like with Ezio?
No … it wasnt basim reliving his own memories , it was actually william miles… if you played vallhalla theres a scene where modern day basim meets william on ravensthorpe in valhalla and william asks basim for a sample of his blood wich basim(loki) agrees to , and that is who we see. Reliving basims memories , mrs william miles
Let’s be real Loki took over one basim Gaven there’s no basim left. If you noticed basim was more humble and careing but not humble or witty cunning. Just scared boy.
Loki on the other hand, I noticed that when Kaden woke up, he breathed in his normal badge and voice, and then his voice deepened came more mellow and he said “how long has it been “indicating that that’s not basim that’s Loki and the bird. Scratching. The face confirms that’s definitely like Loki.
He also says he remembers so he remembers everything that happened the great catastrophe all of it but he knows he’s in the New World so he’s playing smart, so the bathroom we see in Valhalla is literally just loki I think and this is my theory that he’s just using the assassins in the modern day to get to something that something is his children but what will he do when he finds them what his plans remains to be seen
My quickie explanation. He was in a prison and isu prisons dont just trap their bodies but their consciousness as well, we know of another isu experiment the result of which were sages ,
Basim before the end was the human being with a blood connection to the isu loki whilst she was the rest, the isu side of who he is basically? The isu side of his personality. And the machine maybe split them ?
Dont know if im seeing things, but the knife in the hologram seems to be the same one we get from using the shards to unlock isu gear.
Basim is an original esu who saved himself during the eternal conflict between the esu by sacrificing another pulling him out of w.e machine was mad basim was the one with the dagger at the end just as he pulled tier out of the tree of life in Valhalla his end game was to escape the esu betraying them so basim or who he originally is is jumping from timelines for a never ending escape which I believe will come to an end soon with the bleeding effect and which is why he wanted the staff to stay out of the animus or others souls to try and stay immortal so none can access his memories anymore and he could still maintain immortality through the staff and start a new path and I think the esu who is chasing him is the one he pulled out of the machine is much more powerful and I believe is actually God from the assassins creed franchise and basim is lucifer who now has made his way to obtain the staff of immortality and knowledge he needs to face the stronger being chasing him from timelines each assassin was an arc angel hence the godliness basim has overcome but with the bleeding effect I believe we will meet the esu much stronger than basim
What happened to Basim after Mirage? ...Well, Valhalla
If the vision takes place after Loki ensured he’d be reincarnated, which means this happens during or after the great catastrophe and the Isu did kill Loki at the end of the vision, I think there is really only one person I can think of who it could be.
Vidarr.
Since he killed Loki in secret, Vidarr would spread the word Heimdall and Loki killed each other.
Odin was killed by Fenrir so it can’t be Odin who does it.
It can’t be Heimdall because Loki liked him before he used Yggrasil
And Thor was killed by the jormungander and he doesn’t use a dagger
Can’t be Tyr cuz the isu had two arms and Tyr was killed during Ragnarok.
Freyr was supposedly killed as well.
So whether this happened during or after raganrok, the only plausible explanation it that isu who potentially killed Loki was Vidarr, because he is the only surviving male Aesir that is mentioned in ac Valhalla
Odin was right Vidarr would make him proud. He not only killed Fenrir, but Loki as well.
its weird because Loki actually killed someone in order to take their place in the machine.
Odin said he couldn't come but in the cutscene in Valhalla they show him killing someone and taking their place.
The event we're seeing may not have happened in Valhalla. And maybe Loki was actually jailed there or something. Perhaps they found out he highjacked a machine and murked him also. Not sure.
He was jailed in the facility Basim unlocked, that scene in Valhalla happens after his escape. Odin said that because only himself and those close to him were allowed to create sages. Basically those in charge sort of saved themselves and everyone else was supposed to be left to die.
Give us a Basim trilogy already Ubisoft and we could have a LIFETIME with Basim.
They probably will since we are already 2 down
Second I love assassin's Creed mirage this is a must play
Where are you getting this "from the future" stuff? The hologram we see is Loki being imprisoned by Odin, most likely just before the events of DoR. At the end of DoR Juno tells Havi that Loki broke out of his prison and raised an Army against Asgard. Loki most likely died just after he killed Heimdall and uploaded his "DNA" into the yiddrigsil device. The room was starting to collapse.
My only problem with the ending is what's the purpose of that sarcophagus? If nothing in the temple actually serves a purpose then why do the assassins feel they need to protect it? I guess the memory seals but I don't know how they would help the templar's?
That sarcophagus was Loki's prison, they held him there because he killed Odin's son and guards tortured him which is what the jinni represents. Nehal represents Loki's memories, the side of Basim he supressed and the jinni represents Loki's trauma caused by the things Odin did to him. Any Isu facility is problematic, they can hardly know what is inside but it's always a potential threat. Order at this point in time has more in common with the instruments of first will, which was a faction among Templars who served Juno and pretty much worshipped the Isu, which is why any artifact has potential value for them.
@@RaRmAn I understand who Is nehal and the jinn. The question I am having trouble with is what's the purpose of the sarcophagus? I don't think it's just basims cell because nehal said "enough let me out of here" well enough of what? The projection showed Loki struggling and if that's Loki saying "enough let me out" then what is he referring to because the jailer wasn't present when Loki said that. People keep looking past the memory seals that we see when we enter the temple and there's that pedestal directly in front of the sarcophagus that nehal places the seal. So my question is was Loki forced to watch some kind of other memory? Perhaps what Odin did to his son and wife? I feel the sarcophagus is actually some sort of isu Animus where Loki was forced to relive memories because basim had to pry the sarcophagus open. The prisoner is already restrained they wouldn't have to be closed in
Now he’s alive once again, what’s going to happen next is the question.
Is the isu story lime just like god of war pantheons now? And what happened to the original isu? Ubisoft is kinda dropping the ball especially since this is the first continuation of the isu story line since ac 4
I knew that Basim was a reincarnation of Loki but I didn't know how it worked exactly. Kinda sucks that the character I followed all game literally just stopped existing. Not much of a backstory if the character is a completely different person right?
I think he can come back in moments. I think it's made to be a tragic story though. It's tough to like Basim because how much of him is really left? It's still not really clear.
Loki came back the same way was the reat of the Sages- their "DNA"(term used lightly) was uploaded I to the human gene pool.
It's still the same character, just that his inner self is awakened. What we would call "our life's purpose" has been revealed to him. So whereas before he moved because of the grace of another, now he understands that there is something bigger than the small world view he held onto so he will move by his own conviction from that moment on. At least that's what I took from it.
funny thing is that i like Loki's previous soul/personality (female loki) more than Basim himself. I think every character blew ass because of how lowsey the writing was. The only person I liked was Female Loki.
That's just the thing he's not a completely different person but the merging of two people. His backstory here still shapes him, this is part of the reason he's still an Assassin.
the prison loki was in wasen't ygdrasil it was just a cave straped to rocks where a snake dripped poison in his eyes for killing baldur the ygdrasil machine is in valhalla and he wasen't prisoned there just his dna put in the human dna to be reborn one day
I’m only still confused about two things. One, I know basim knew that the others would have been reincarnated around that time as well cause he knew the machine would place them at the same point in history but how the hell does he even have the slightest idea where to look?? Imagine right now you’re told to go find some people somewhere in the world with a mark on their necks. Especially in the 9th century. Two, what is the Asgardian isu’s actual plan once they meet up at a future date and what is basims overall plan?
Basim meets Sigurd in Constantinopol (forgot how its spelled) by chance actually and decides to follow him back to norway thinking he is Odin
@@hollowclyde3433 Istanbul, it's pronounced as Istanbul, hhhhh
Well Scandinavia is a good place to start I guess since the Yggdrasil is there & Basim knows so because of his loki memories, basim's overall plan though in modern day I do not know.
When Odin defeats Loki in Asgard doesn't he say "all of this was fated and it will happen again?". Or something like that at least. So the same way Sigurd lost his arm like Tyr, and Eivor was warned he would betray Sigurd like Odin betrayed Tyr, maybe Loki was destined to meet the other Sages anyway and relive the same dynamic they had in the past, him as a trickster with a hidden agenda. Even the fact Basim is a different ethnicity than Sigurd and Eivor is an echo of Loki being Jotnar, so once again an outsider.
That sense of a destiny loop you can't escape is a big underlying theme of AC Valhalla. Which is why I think Basim was really taking about a son that was taken from him that wasn't Fenrir, because what happened to Loki likely happened again with Basim.
The “Gard” didn’t kill Loki!!! He couldn’t have. In AC: Valhalla. If the hard killed Loki he wouldn’t have been able to “download” himself into the Tree with Oden and the rest. That took place right before the destruction of the planet. Or the grate extinction. They all know they are about to die that’s why they do it at that point. So this “playback” we see Loki witness. Had to have happened before they downloaded there DNA or whatever and Loki killed one of them and took his place. So Loki had to kill the Gard then travel to ware the Tree was, sneak into the control room and then download his essence. Loki didn’t hide in the likrisil to survive the extinction event. There was no one left that knew he would be in there after since they all died. And besides, that was low-key the only one out of their species that understood he could survive if he hid in there. If that’s true, why didn’t the entire species create those pods and hide in there to survive the event??
Sometimes the way people come up with this stuff just does not make any damn sense
He should delete the video 😂
My question I saw another two doors beside Loki room (left and right )
I just realised that when Basim was telling Eivor about the mentor who took everything and his son, he was talking as loki, the mentor is odin who took his son the wolf. Cuz basim's story from valhalla doesn't match with Mirage.
Isu era is way back before humans , ther was 2 isu teams that tryed save the world one was with minerva ,other lady and older guy that we seen in assassins creed when desmond had visions or talked to them they tryed to save world by machinery that suppose to put shield on earth so the sun didnt burn it but they failed then they upagraded it but in last days then in ac 3 when desmond turns machine that granted shield back because system was overloading it took his life and traped him in yagdrassil as hes the glowing guy that was looking on tree with many options and odin team wanted to save their lifes by implementing their dna to humans thats why we seen incubators on yagdrassil with first humans ,loki was prisoned because he had kids with althea (the voice in icarus staff) that he shouldnt have and odin was mad on him when he hided fenrir whos originaly isu but in valhalla represented as gigant world eater wolf because fenrir was suppose to bring doom on odin as we know from mitology loki had more kids like odins horse or gigant world serpent snake so the chick in valhalla frees basim as she takes his place and basim gets drop on althea (ikarus staff that grants regeneration) because isu could turn their concousness and put it to objects he speaks to her about waiting for this moment and looking for their kids in the new world .
I feel like DLC may be us training hytham and then going to Turkey
you should do a specific tale of baghdad about a boy trapped high up a tower and listen carefully at the end
Theory:the guard s dagger is the isu dagger from nehal s investigation
Ooooo
Basically Basim gets the ragnarok ball rolling . If u think about it. We’ll Loki/Basim.
Heimdall is the one that kills loki
How it will fit in AC we shall see
What it’s important is that basim is the future of AC cause he is now alive in the modern world and will build a strong creed and becomes the leader.
The memory in mirage isn’t Basim in the Igdrasyll, it’s the isu telling of the trial of Loki within Norse mythology, the second being in the hologram is Havi/Eivor that lends to why Loki/Basim vows to seek to find him at the end….
It happened before Loki kills Heimdall to take his place in the Igdrasyll
I thought Loki killed baulder which is odins son. That’s why Loki is imprisoned
@@LaymanGamin Yes it is, that happened off screen in the dawn of ragnarok dlc for Valhalla
Not quite right. Loki as a god of trickery and does bad things with hands of others. Baldr was killed by his brother Höðr, the other son of Odin. Loki made a mistletoe spear and helped Höðr shoot it at Baldr. Hel said that she would bring Baldr back to life if the whole world cried for him. Loki became Þökk, only one person who didn't cry for Baldr, so he remained dead.
After revealing the truth gods found Loki, killed his son Nari and chained Loki with his guts, They also turned his other son Narfi into a wolf (maby thats why modern days Basim/Loki wears a t-shirt with a picture of a wolf).
But then Loki was set free and he killed Heimdall. In the original myth they kill one another during the events of Ragnarök. But in the game Loki kills Heimdall to find Odin. So Basim set Loki free to find Eivor.
Humanity wasn’t wiped out
Desmond should have been the ultimate assassins with all the bleeding effects he got they scrabed him in ac3we could have got future segments or an entire game with desmond in it but instead he got freaked over and we got rpgs
newcomers left wondering what the hell just happened 😂 I still don’t know wtf is happening, love the parkour this time tho
Well... ship... I couldn't get into Valhalla, but I've really enjoyed Mirage! I think I will restart valhalla... I didn't get too far anyway... I didn't know both the storys were linked! I suppose it's kind of done in order from a certain perspective. Oh well... it's not the first time... ; D
tldr. loki hijacked basim's brain.
Why not a DLC after AC Mirage main story ends when AC Valhalla begins
He became a GOD!!! end of story.
The big mystery to me is if enkidu doesn’t recognize basim anymore why can you still use him to help scout out areas after you beat the game cause I just beat the game and I want led to see it you cauldron still use enkidu or not but you can it would be cool if you wouldn’t be able to use enkidu after this point
gameplay and lore are two different things so ofc you can still use enkidu
@@IAmKentori Ik there 2 diff things your tellin me after playin the game you havent noticed it
How does Odyssey fit into all of this since Cassandra is in Valhalla too and has immortality
Kassandra was only alive in Odyssey until she passed the staff to Layla. Layla in modern day ACV gets stabbed by Yggdrasil, causing her to drop the staff, in exchange Basim get released and touches the staff causing him to heal up.
*Basim
BASIM IS LOKI.... NOT LINKED TO BUT SIMPLY THE SAME PERSON.
He is loki he remembered his own life his own past. Dont get it twisted. Its shown in a meta and confused way but only one man is basim... only one set memories... he is loki.
We are only a few who seen this as it really is
@@sergiu4631 you're telling me! Assassin's creed promoted free thinking, yet one youtuber has led them all to a lie... rediculus.
@@theangryimp1345 i would tag all of my fellow yt Users Like you to explain the truth every time
I see “ oh no Loki took over basim body”
@@theangryimp1345 i’m Looking in a lot of yt videos and there is many people who understood all of this story wrong… Even the ones who played Valhalla… he acts differently after he Exit the temple becouse now he is complete he has all the Wisdom and all the memories of his past life explained this is Why he does not act as the same young man full of pasion But as someone who was of high status once and a powerfull figure it is normal that Enkidu does not see the same young man and it is normal Why he is more cocky now giving all his experiences from his past life
@sergiu4631 exactly! This man is proof that religion is false and lived through the creation of human kind but people don't understand why he's a bit disconnected?
How do u know the hologram was in the future,it was supposed to be in the esu era,thats y basim got nightmares,the Jinni was the person torturing him in the hologram in the past life
Exactly. I think it’s from the ISU era, potentially a guard Odin send to kill Loki when he hid himself away in the Yggdrasil?
Ilbn assad? Does that mean he's a descendant of altaier
no its just a common name
Only criticism is way too many "aka" going on. You had already stated some things, then aka'd them to death. Nothing more on that.
Loki would never have been killed by anyone, let alone a guard. If Loki had died, how did he end up in the other chamber pretending to be a worker so he could escape the end of their civilization? All we see if the 'guard/whoever' bend over and at that point pretty sure Loki did that guy in, maybe even now pretending to be that guy. He is a trickster, you know. lol
This series is very gnostic. And the assasins are evil...
I ignore all the isu and modern day story of all the games, because it is so very convoluted. I isolate them and simply live in the historical context. Its better that way.
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Ok, my question is...(I find the Ac modern day story really stupid with reincarnation, biological immortality and stuff like that)...how does Loki or other guys from that era actually gets BORN into the world? Thats what I really couldnt understand even if the story got really stupid. You need a mother, right? How they are actually implemented into those natural mothers lets say so? Couldnt finish the last 4 AC games so maybe Ubisoft actually explained this (knowing Ubisoft...I doubt they did the effort). Someone can answer? How did Eivor for example managed to be reborn into the world? We all know he actually had a father and a mother, right?
its explained in the ac odyssey atlantis dlc the extent of the Isus experimentation with humans and basically if they want to plant it in the human genetic code pool to resurface at some point they can. Isus can basically do whatever they wanted with humans as a whole because they created them and they had the technology to do a whole bunch of funky shit. This same kind of all powerful concept is how the Isu even got involved with Desmond and them in the first place early on in the franchise. So the short answer is they have their genes recessively planted in the entire human gene pool and it just comes out when it comes out. Kinda like how me and you are technically really, really, really distantly related.
@@zeiram.mp4229 Only got to like 75% in odyssey before getting burned out and quit so yeah...thx a lot for your info, I get it now
This franchise has turned into absolute shit.
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