Trouble is on the NHS I don’t even get given HRT which is a great all round anti ager for women. There will be some reason not to give it to you, some study like the nurses study that makes doctors scared to prescribe to healthy people. I went private. I predict you will have to be wealthy enough to get these drugs privately. Not necessarily rich but not poor either.
Such good arguments Andrew and succinctly put.If only the people in power would listen? Keep up the good work!.Going to check out Ordinary Things now... .
Immortality is simply impossible - at least with today's technology. But 10 or 20 years longer? Why not? But if you want immortality too much, you could end up like the first Chinese emperor: He believed that mercury would make him immortal. In the end, he died early from mercury poisoning.
i just watched the ordinary things video with my girlfriend. i actually SCREAMED when you came on screen because it was such a surprise. took her a minute, but she eventually recognized you from the medlife crisis video you did! honestly it was such an unexpected cameo since you and ordinary things operate in totally different spheres of the internet. i'm very glad it happened though, you were a great voice of reason sprinkled in around most of the others.
The "longevity will benefit the rich" crowd are similar to the "big pharma is evil" crowd. They may have half a point on both but if harnessing the self interest of billionaires is what it takes to get drugs developed and studies funded then that will only be a benefit. The real question is how we go about getting the treatments affordable for the mainstream in a reasonable timeframe (5-10 years). I always liked India's way of capping drug prices. Not every country has to do it but the fact that motivated people would be able to import anti-ageing drugs cheaply from India should have a price lowering effect on patented drugs in OECD countries. Also like the bold style choice with the glasses, was half expecting Dave Asprey to appear on camera.
We'd need to ask the drug company for the specifics (and they're all pretty tight-lipped about it) but it's probably in the tens of thousands if it's produced in a similar way to other take-cells-out, modify-them, put-them-back type therapies...
Where are those billionaires pouring billions in their immortality?! The ones we’ve got are dull - they only invest 0.01% pf their net worth in longevity
Pharmaceutical companies charge significant sums for new drugs not only to recoup their investments in those drugs but also to counter their losses on the drug failures (e.g., in the U.S., the ones that don't make it through animal trials or, worse, strikeout during FDA trials). If drug companies became better at weeding out potential failures earlier in the process, then they might not have to charge as much money for each successful drug.
The rich wanted the internet and now we all have it. The rich wanted to fly and now we all can fly. The rich wanted email and mobile phones and yet we all have them. As pointed out by one rich person the thing about ageing is that everybody ages and even the rich can empathise with that.
Hahaha right so I put that in as a placeholder before the real link was available...I have updated it but apparently the update didn't propagate for everyone yet?! Video here in case anyone is confused (LOL): ua-cam.com/video/o2nszH7Kv8M/v-deo.html
That's not where the internet came from. The internet is 90% free opensource software. It was made by professors and passionate nerds in their spare time. Not the rich. That's why the internet is so hard to monetize, why sharing files is so easy. No rich person would create an internet that is a p2p mesh network where sharing pirated files is easier than buying them. It was funded by public research money. So taxes. There is no invention that rich people can take LESS credit for. And thank god for that, because it would be useless if it was made by a rich person.
I will watch this ofcourse but why this question. I mean putting aside the issue of resources and money etc why the focus on the lifespan of this class of reprobates?
A house on the moon is overrated compared to spending on longevity research 😜 (even with infinite money 🤣). Love this video ! Thanks for making this so clear 🚀
I promise you billionairs wont live forever. For other reasons. Age might not get them, but... Immortal from age does not make you more than just a squish man.
12:36 so the medicine industry would be reducing their overall revenue?... This makes me wonder if they really would make public any breakthroughs in preventative treatments.
For me it is less about life span and more about health span. Living a great life for a decade is better than being miserable for a century. Now if you live miserably for a century in the hopes that you will live happily ever after. OK.
I repeatedly think about this. Basically, the decision is how long I would accept to be bedridden in order to then live for centuries in great health. One decade is very reasonable time for that, even more.
I completely agree with you that the quality of life, or health span, is incredibly important. Living a fulfilling and happy decade is far more valuable than enduring a miserable century. It's essential to focus on maintaining both physical and mental well-being throughout our lives, rather than just aiming for longevity without considering the quality of those years. Striving for a balance where we can enjoy our time, stay healthy, and feel content is key. It's about making choices that enhance our overall well-being and happiness in the present and the future, rather than sacrificing our current happiness for an uncertain future. Your perspective highlights the importance of prioritizing a meaningful and enjoyable life.
@@squamish4244 there are a lot of older folks suffering from loneliness or perceived abandonment, mental health issues can be age related. A sixty year old is not generally as physically attractive as their 25 yr old self was. I'd point out that the notion that we will die someday, typically before our hundredth birthday in ill health must affect our mental health. I mean why bother to try or why not do horrible things because I am going to die anyway, so why not. If you see my point.
"As long as it's not Elon Musk (who lives to age 200)" - Andrew Steele. I'm really offended, Elon is a hero! I almost feel moved to unsubscribe! As it is I will await your reconsideration of the matter.
Unsubscribe, you will not be missed. The "called a guy who died rescuing children a pedo because he did not want to use his dumb ass submarine" guy is not a hero. Heros are never billionairs.
@@nozhki-busha He's interested in the longevity of the entire human race, that's why he's funding the initiative for space exploration. Instead of being focused on the individual level, he's interested in the societal level. Not making any judgments to him as a person, just wanted to clarify where his focus is and it is actually on longevity. Where Andrew complains about how little funding is in science, Elon is actually funding science and helping there.
I used to think like you, but I now think more like Steele. I hope Elon does not live long as he does not have anybodys best interests in mind other than his own. With age you start to better see crooks and liers among people. Musk lies to keep his wealth, he does not intend to fix environment or go to the Mars. He knows it and still lies. It all started with the "pedo guy", that was the first crack for me...
People used to think regular smallpox plagues are the work of a Deity, yet here we are with basically no-one remembering this old fearsome bane. It might very well be that in 70 years people dying from natural causes would be seen the same way.
I very much disagree with you. Elon living to 200 would be the best thing to ever happen for the planet and humanity! Billionaires working hard to make the world a better place is something to strive for.
Still got questions about the ethics of longer lives? You might enjoy the free chapter of my book, available online at ageless.link/ethics :)
I love how these clowns try every voodoo tech garbage in the world before even considering funding basic research into the actually promising meds
They don't understand,nor love, natural science, they want to fund what is profitable as a business.
I am from india and i know how to live long life without anything
great video with amazing arguments to support.
Trouble is on the NHS I don’t even get given HRT which is a great all round anti ager for women. There will be some reason not to give it to you, some study like the nurses study that makes doctors scared to prescribe to healthy people. I went private. I predict you will have to be wealthy enough to get these drugs privately. Not necessarily rich but not poor either.
We cured death 10 years ago
Would be amazing to see old people look young and happy again. This has to be one of the most important research topics right now.
I haven't watched the video yet, but I'm guessing that at this point it doesn't look like billionaires will live forever
NO SPOILERS!!!
Does the cost to develop a drug include marketing budget? Ive heard this is many multiples of the actual cost of the lab work.
No, it’s just the science…
Such good arguments Andrew and succinctly put.If only the people in power would listen? Keep up the good work!.Going to check out Ordinary Things now...
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Immortality is simply impossible - at least with today's technology. But 10 or 20 years longer? Why not? But if you want immortality too much, you could end up like the first Chinese emperor: He believed that mercury would make him immortal. In the end, he died early from mercury poisoning.
i just watched the ordinary things video with my girlfriend. i actually SCREAMED when you came on screen because it was such a surprise. took her a minute, but she eventually recognized you from the medlife crisis video you did! honestly it was such an unexpected cameo since you and ordinary things operate in totally different spheres of the internet. i'm very glad it happened though, you were a great voice of reason sprinkled in around most of the others.
Haha yeah, I was surprised to end up in an Ordinary Things video! Did not have that on my 2024 bingo card :)
The "longevity will benefit the rich" crowd are similar to the "big pharma is evil" crowd. They may have half a point on both but if harnessing the self interest of billionaires is what it takes to get drugs developed and studies funded then that will only be a benefit. The real question is how we go about getting the treatments affordable for the mainstream in a reasonable timeframe (5-10 years). I always liked India's way of capping drug prices. Not every country has to do it but the fact that motivated people would be able to import anti-ageing drugs cheaply from India should have a price lowering effect on patented drugs in OECD countries.
Also like the bold style choice with the glasses, was half expecting Dave Asprey to appear on camera.
There is new patent-pending technology to treat aging. Sent a notice to the White House....
how much does HEMGENIX9000 cost without patent, just to produce?
We'd need to ask the drug company for the specifics (and they're all pretty tight-lipped about it) but it's probably in the tens of thousands if it's produced in a similar way to other take-cells-out, modify-them, put-them-back type therapies...
I could buy immortality with infinite money, but I know how to build the path.
Where are those billionaires pouring billions in their immortality?! The ones we’ve got are dull - they only invest 0.01% pf their net worth in longevity
even if you have all tge money of world, you can not buy life
can you tell me one person one billionaire living 200 years
well money will be aboloshed in the face of abundance anyway
the best bussiness in world is abussiness of fooling
Pharmaceutical companies charge significant sums for new drugs not only to recoup their investments in those drugs but also to counter their losses on the drug failures (e.g., in the U.S., the ones that don't make it through animal trials or, worse, strikeout during FDA trials). If drug companies became better at weeding out potential failures earlier in the process, then they might not have to charge as much money for each successful drug.
Yeah. AlphaFold3, ESM3 etc.
These estimates include the failures as I understand it. We should definitely try to mitigate them in any case!
@@DrAndrewSteele Definitely--and hopefully AI can help with that... In any case, I forgot to say--Thanks for taking the time to create these videos!
Fingers crossed :) and thank you, thanks for watching!
The rich wanted the internet and now we all have it. The rich wanted to fly and now we all can fly. The rich wanted email and mobile phones and yet we all have them. As pointed out by one rich person the thing about ageing is that everybody ages and even the rich can empathise with that.
Oh and the Ordinary Things video you tag on the end goes to a Rick Astley Track !! 😀
Hahaha right so I put that in as a placeholder before the real link was available...I have updated it but apparently the update didn't propagate for everyone yet?! Video here in case anyone is confused (LOL): ua-cam.com/video/o2nszH7Kv8M/v-deo.html
That's not where the internet came from. The internet is 90% free opensource software. It was made by professors and passionate nerds in their spare time. Not the rich. That's why the internet is so hard to monetize, why sharing files is so easy. No rich person would create an internet that is a p2p mesh network where sharing pirated files is easier than buying them.
It was funded by public research money. So taxes. There is no invention that rich people can take LESS credit for. And thank god for that, because it would be useless if it was made by a rich person.
I will watch this ofcourse but why this question. I mean putting aside the issue of resources and money etc why the focus on the lifespan of this class of reprobates?
A house on the moon is overrated compared to spending on longevity research 😜 (even with infinite money 🤣).
Love this video ! Thanks for making this so clear 🚀
I promise you billionairs wont live forever. For other reasons. Age might not get them, but... Immortal from age does not make you more than just a squish man.
One can only hope so.
I'm just praying for AI's speed of growth to allow better and faster research and discoveries to be made.
Don’t pray for AI, campaign for more research funding for longevity science!
@@DrAndrewSteele I'll pray for both lol
@@DrAndrewSteele I think we need both.
Andrew, great video
Thanks dude!
12:36 so the medicine industry would be reducing their overall revenue?... This makes me wonder if they really would make public any breakthroughs in preventative treatments.
Quite the opposite: if people stop dying at the present rate, the market will be a lot larger.
For me it is less about life span and more about health span.
Living a great life for a decade is better than being miserable for a century.
Now if you live miserably for a century in the hopes that you will live happily ever after. OK.
for the researchers it's about that too
I repeatedly think about this. Basically, the decision is how long I would accept to be bedridden in order to then live for centuries in great health. One decade is very reasonable time for that, even more.
I completely agree with you that the quality of life, or health span, is incredibly important. Living a fulfilling and happy decade is far more valuable than enduring a miserable century. It's essential to focus on maintaining both physical and mental well-being throughout our lives, rather than just aiming for longevity without considering the quality of those years.
Striving for a balance where we can enjoy our time, stay healthy, and feel content is key. It's about making choices that enhance our overall well-being and happiness in the present and the future, rather than sacrificing our current happiness for an uncertain future. Your perspective highlights the importance of prioritizing a meaningful and enjoyable life.
Especially mental health. Most mental disorders develop when you are still a teenager or in your early 20s, so age has nothing to do with them.
@@squamish4244 there are a lot of older folks suffering from loneliness or perceived abandonment, mental health issues can be age related. A sixty year old is not generally as physically attractive as their 25 yr old self was.
I'd point out that the notion that we will die someday, typically before our hundredth birthday in ill health must affect our mental health. I mean why bother to try or why not do horrible things because I am going to die anyway, so why not. If you see my point.
I wouldn’t want to live forever regardless of wealth. A healthy lifespan is what I’m happy with.
"As long as it's not Elon Musk (who lives to age 200)" - Andrew Steele. I'm really offended, Elon is a hero! I almost feel moved to unsubscribe! As it is I will await your reconsideration of the matter.
Unsubscribe, you will not be missed. The "called a guy who died rescuing children a pedo because he did not want to use his dumb ass submarine" guy is not a hero. Heros are never billionairs.
You sure have a strange idea of what a hero is. Elon Musk is an awful human being but thankfully he isnt interested in longevity.
@@nozhki-busha He's interested in the longevity of the entire human race, that's why he's funding the initiative for space exploration. Instead of being focused on the individual level, he's interested in the societal level. Not making any judgments to him as a person, just wanted to clarify where his focus is and it is actually on longevity. Where Andrew complains about how little funding is in science, Elon is actually funding science and helping there.
@@nozhki-busha Please explain to me why you think Elon Musk is an awful human being.
I used to think like you, but I now think more like Steele. I hope Elon does not live long as he does not have anybodys best interests in mind other than his own. With age you start to better see crooks and liers among people. Musk lies to keep his wealth, he does not intend to fix environment or go to the Mars. He knows it and still lies. It all started with the "pedo guy", that was the first crack for me...
Its hubris, you cant bribe a Deity with money
Are you calling yourself a god? If not, whom?
@@rebeccaweitzel9158 me
People used to think regular smallpox plagues are the work of a Deity, yet here we are with basically no-one remembering this old fearsome bane. It might very well be that in 70 years people dying from natural causes would be seen the same way.
I very much disagree with you. Elon living to 200 would be the best thing to ever happen for the planet and humanity! Billionaires working hard to make the world a better place is something to strive for.
How is this a disagreement, did you even watch the video
@@henley777 He said that he doesn't hope Elon lives to 200
@@TheKdcool I missed that part completely
I don’t need to live forever, I just need to look as good as Andrew in the intro section…