I bought my first shell mill recently which is great for material removal, but nothing beats a single-point tool for surface finish, as your video demonstrates. I might have to make myself a big fly cutter too!
Robiłem taką głowicę do planowania (fi440) 5 lat temu dla zakladu który osiuje bloki od 5 lat także planują i wychodzi im to naprawdę dobrze tylko trzeba odpowiednią płytkę skrawającą. Za głowicę wziąłem 1500 a typowy fly cutter wloski okolo 100k, oszczędność niesamowita.
Abom and his collection of tools to do every last potential job in the shop has its place, but videos like this where just basic machine shop tools are used are fantastic as well.
I´ve been thinking all the time, "this would be perfect for a cylinder head" :). Then you got one. And threw it back on the pile afterwards.. Nicely done! Nice tool!
@@yaykruser he didnt, if you look at the next scene he is using a larger tap. He probably drilled it out or shattered the smaller tap then drilled the hole larger.
I was just thinking "nice long handles on that tap wrench... " when it broke. Been there mate! Sometimes you can get it out, but it hurts every time. Lovely smooth surface BTW.
Whilst you were making the wheel at the beginning of the video I was already thinking to myself: 'oh man, with that much mass in a single point cutter, the surface finish will be outstanding'. A near mirror finish! Beautiful work!
Нужно ставить 4-6 резцов Вырезать под них углубления Чистота будет лучше, точность выше Нагрузка на станок меньше Мы такие фрезы в путяге делали диаметром 400мм 16 резцов.
@9:02 "ok, this works. Now to find something I actually need to fly cut.." Great project. I just found a use for those old brake rotors sitting outside. @5:06: I had the same feeling watching that as when it happens to me. Kudos to you for including the bad with the good.
I don't think I would want to be around that thing when those two 6mm bolts finally have enough and shear leaving that cutter to go flying at 100 miles per hour. He should have machined slots in the body that would fit the cutter snug and then bolted them on. That way the body of the cutter would support the cutter and guide it leaving the bolts to do what they are meant for which is to secure it. It's a nice idea but it's not finished and as a result it's damn dangerous.
I had the very same thought. Mill slots the precise width off the cutter bars so that all the lateral shear load is carried by the circular base and the bolts are appropriately used to secure the bar down into the milled slots. As it is now it WILL fail when eventually the bolts shear off, which by its self is bad enough, but then the cutter bar is going to become a projectile flying off hopefully not towards someone, but what's more the cutter is instantly going to be out of balance, the severity of which will be determined by the RPM of the cutter. To give an idea of how violent this can be I had a close friend who was flying a Mooney personal aircraft, engine RPM was 2400, when suddenly 4 inches of a 60 inch propeller blade broke off. It was so violent that loosing just 4 inches of the tip was so instantly violent that before he could kill the power it had broken three of the four engine mounts, almost tearing the engine off the front of the plane.
I like the use of the cutter to allow easy use of replaceable inserts. I have 1 minor worry/ suggestion. The way that it is mounted at the moment all load is transferred into those cap screws holding the cutter on - this risks both thread damage and tip wander under load If you where to measure the cutter size and recess it by 1/4 the cutter width into the main flying plate you would remove both of those issues resulting in a more consistent and longer lasting tool
Yes recessing would be a very good idea and while you at it counterbore the holes for the cap screws so they sit closer to the bottom. You could also use 3 cutters instead of 2 as an uneven number will run better.
I felt bad for the guy when the tap broke / especially after the threads were cut - been there / nice work my man - you inspired me to do something similar!
By far, one of the better fly cutters made on this app. At least it has two cutters. The surfacer I used for blocks and heads had 8 and the finish probably wasn't any better
Osobiście zrobiłbym pierścień inaczej nieco; Obecnie na śruby trzymajace trzonek noża działają spore siły ścinające, zrobiłbym kanałek frezem w pierścieniu, żeby utrzymywac też nóż na ścianie bocznej(przeniesienie sił na ścianę boczną trzonka) Ogólnie fajnie!
To jedna sprawa. Druga to ustawienie wysokości ostrza. Na śrunach będzie się przesuwać-pracować i może skrawać tylko jeden nóż. Z resztą flycutter'y mają jedno ostrze.
Świetna robota, super. Wrzucaj częściej filmy, bo fajnie się ogląda to co robisz. Widzę, że masz swoich trzech antysubskrybentów? Pewnie stara szkoła, że tak się nie robi, że może zabić itd.
@Chris the disk is well mounted to the spidle. The two bolts are simply a safty design i guess. It doesn't spin on high rev, so if it breaks down no one gonna get any damage. But if you mill a channen into the disk, the whole spindle and disk going to get serious damage. I realy disagree with you.
@Chris i like when people come with their experience. No offense by the way. I have also experience in making my own custom tools for a specific job. But also I have less experience in years compered to you (if true). But it doesn't mean anything. My opinion is, this is a well made flying cutter. It doesn't need high RPM to operate at optimal. So the chance it makes serious accidents is very low. I agree with you about the bolts, but it doesn't need any channel or clamping mechanism to tighten it. Just think about the weight of the disk. With a channel and clamping it would make worse damage in both the operator and the machine. As I said, with higher diameter you earn the same surface cutting speed with less rpm. It just need proper balancing.
That was my thinking too. Cutting a triangle would work as well. More easy to perform with the opportunity to fix the bolts 90 degrees around to have them in turning direction, gives the tool more stability.
Good job looks solid, I wondered if the three indexing tips had to be checked for height then tightened. Would be good to see a DTI run along the profile after the cut.
You can use a hole saw and cut around it, then press a bushing in there, for example. Or just weld the whole thing, turn it and start over on a new spot... Pretty simple as it's a round part.
When I was an apprentice flycut many Jaguar inline 6 cylinder heads for local garage, that was in the 1960's. Made a beautiful job on the alloy heads, worse part was clamping themout with distorting. Used check with in engineers blue on marking off table.
I have no idea what you are saying, but I'm sure its something along the lines of, 'that tool is strong like bull or bear.' So I'm giving you a thumbs up!
Пара соток вогнутости прекрасно уберётся прокладкой, а делают так, когда не хватает хода стола и у клиентов возникают вопросы, почему рисунок от фрезы не одинаковый.
Great skills but the funniest part was just tossing the cylinder head back on the scrap pile!😂 You’ve cheered up my evening, priceless, many thanks 👍
Watch my channel
Very informative video
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Kinda strange that you use milk for lubrication
I bought my first shell mill recently which is great for material removal, but nothing beats a single-point tool for surface finish, as your video demonstrates. I might have to make myself a big fly cutter too!
That Cylinder head surfacing/skimming was great and so precise 👌🏽👌🏽
That’s just absolutely beautiful. Nice work. I need one of those.
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Robiłem taką głowicę do planowania (fi440) 5 lat temu dla zakladu który osiuje bloki od 5 lat także planują i wychodzi im to naprawdę dobrze tylko trzeba odpowiednią płytkę skrawającą. Za głowicę wziąłem 1500 a typowy fly cutter wloski okolo 100k, oszczędność niesamowita.
Maravilhoso trabalho! Parabéns! Muito obrigado por compartilhar.
Abom and his collection of tools to do every last potential job in the shop has its place, but videos like this where just basic machine shop tools are used are fantastic as well.
Watch my channel
Very informative
ua-cam.com/channels/m8mQZIpspdf_tT6mNVkX_A.html
Просто отлично, сначала головку отполировал, а потом просто выкинул... Класс 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Она с трещиной. Это для примера))
Даааа...
Ага)) но мне больше понравилось когда он метчик сломал))) и какие-то матюки на черном фоне
Можно было на скорую руку резец летучку замастрячить делов то.
I´ve been thinking all the time, "this would be perfect for a cylinder head" :). Then you got one. And threw it back on the pile afterwards.. Nicely done! Nice tool!
It was craked head
5:05 everbody hates this moment :D
ToastyBBQ how did he get it out?
@@yaykruser he didnt, if you look at the next scene he is using a larger tap. He probably drilled it out or shattered the smaller tap then drilled the hole larger.
I yelled at my screen, in anger!
5:05 is and my inability to learn how to not do that is why I gave up my machinist aspirations.
Its a rite of passage.... You're still a boy till you break your first tap in a nearly finished work-piece, and learn how to swear properly.
вот это фрезернул!))) Аж выкинуть пришлось
Is there a B stock reel of footage of the 4 hours removing the broken tap?
Awesome work! Fantastic results!
more like 8 hours lol
Lol
When you threw the head back in the scrap pile in the yard, I lost it. Perfect!
Now that’s nice ,good work
And toss it back outside 😂
30:1 compression.
Proof of concept. 👍👍👍
I was just thinking "nice long handles on that tap wrench... " when it broke. Been there mate! Sometimes you can get it out, but it hurts every time.
Lovely smooth surface BTW.
Whilst you were making the wheel at the beginning of the video I was already thinking to myself: 'oh man, with that much mass in a single point cutter, the surface finish will be outstanding'. A near mirror finish! Beautiful work!
A cast iron gymweight would cut any ringing hence chatter the steel would tend to produce.
And cheaper!
Mmm, massss....
@@paradiselost9946 Thanks for reminding me indeed. My mind is rather poor now.
Ну, что ж, давайте заставим Матвеева повторить!)
Вы знаете, что нужно делать)
Super robota. Życze abyś zawsze znalazł czas do realizacji swoich pasji ;p
Definitely deserves a follow! Awesome job..
Genius Idea man. You nailed it
Фреза рабочая.Только нужно было бы под резцы пазы фрезернуть.
Нужно ставить 4-6 резцов
Вырезать под них углубления
Чистота будет лучше, точность выше
Нагрузка на станок меньше
Мы такие фрезы в путяге делали диаметром 400мм 16 резцов.
напильнком чтоль?)
@9:02 "ok, this works. Now to find something I actually need to fly cut.." Great project. I just found a use for those old brake rotors sitting outside. @5:06: I had the same feeling watching that as when it happens to me. Kudos to you for including the bad with the good.
Nice, perfect, good... Any words means something beautiful describe your job.
That's not a mere fly cutter. It is a HUGE Horse Fly Cutter.... Nicely done... Thumbs Up!
I don't think I would want to be around that thing when those two 6mm bolts finally have enough and shear leaving that cutter to go flying at 100 miles per hour. He should have machined slots in the body that would fit the cutter snug and then bolted them on. That way the body of the cutter would support the cutter and guide it leaving the bolts to do what they are meant for which is to secure it. It's a nice idea but it's not finished and as a result it's damn dangerous.
Under the loads he's using here shear is less likely - The more major issue is that there is nothing but thread torque to ensure it never wanders
I had the very same thought. Mill slots the precise width off the cutter bars so that all the lateral shear load is carried by the circular base and the bolts are appropriately used to secure the bar down into the milled slots. As it is now it WILL fail when eventually the bolts shear off, which by its self is bad enough, but then the cutter bar is going to become a projectile flying off hopefully not towards someone, but what's more the cutter is instantly going to be out of balance, the severity of which will be determined by the RPM of the cutter.
To give an idea of how violent this can be I had a close friend who was flying a Mooney personal aircraft, engine RPM was 2400, when suddenly 4 inches of a 60 inch propeller blade broke off.
It was so violent that loosing just 4 inches of the tip was so instantly violent that before he could kill the power it had broken three of the four engine mounts, almost tearing the engine off the front of the plane.
It is interesting that he thought to attempt to balance the load but did not take the time to cut slots for the cutter or the balance.
Wow you have to many wonderful machines..
Great Job.
Really nice! Great work! Thanks for the ideas.
5:07 I underatand you, my friend...cool work! 👏👏🙌🙌
I like the use of the cutter to allow easy use of replaceable inserts.
I have 1 minor worry/ suggestion.
The way that it is mounted at the moment all load is transferred into those cap screws holding the cutter on - this risks both thread damage and tip wander under load
If you where to measure the cutter size and recess it by 1/4 the cutter width into the main flying plate you would remove both of those issues resulting in a more consistent and longer lasting tool
Ben Grogan my exact thoughts
I definitely think like you
Yes recessing would be a very good idea and while you at it counterbore the holes for the cap screws so they sit closer to the bottom. You could also use 3 cutters instead of 2 as an uneven number will run better.
@@janvandemaas4148 this is a single point fly cutter - the 2nd side is a balancing counterweight not a cutting tip
Amazing job! I've just put one of these on my list of future projects.
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I love how simple this design is. And close to balanced. Nice work.
Thank You Bro
I felt bad for the guy when the tap broke / especially after the threads were cut - been there / nice work my man - you inspired me to do something similar!
Отличная "балеринка"!
By far, one of the better fly cutters made on this app. At least it has two cutters. The surfacer I used for blocks and heads had 8 and the finish probably wasn't any better
That was a great idea !!
I made one too !!
Thanks for sharing!!
Молодец 👍💥
Привет из Москвы 🇷🇺
Fantastic results as usual. The lathe tool would have definitely been happier a little slower.
Agreed!
Do the sparks mean it's too fast?
@@vladomaimun Typically, yes.
So does the red hot steel flying around
PARABÉNS DR PELA CRIATIVIDADE DA SUA FERRAMENTA VOCÊ É UM GRANDE PROFISSIONAL QUE DEUS JESUS ABENÇOE SEMPRE SEUS CONHECIMENTOS.
The world would be beautiful if it was full of such skilled people! ;-)
5:05 Duża oprawka i człowiek nie czuje, że gwintownik coś nie tak idzie. A fly cutter bardzo fajny :)
Osobiście zrobiłbym pierścień inaczej nieco; Obecnie na śruby trzymajace trzonek noża działają spore siły ścinające, zrobiłbym kanałek frezem w pierścieniu, żeby utrzymywac też nóż na ścianie bocznej(przeniesienie sił na ścianę boczną trzonka)
Ogólnie fajnie!
yup, dużo lepsze i bezpieczniejsze rozwiązanie
Miałem tak zrobic ale nie zmiescilo mi sie w pionie pod glowicą frezarki :)
To jedna sprawa. Druga to ustawienie wysokości ostrza. Na śrunach będzie się przesuwać-pracować i może skrawać tylko jeden nóż. Z resztą flycutter'y mają jedno ostrze.
Tak jak piszesz nie bedzie ustawienia ostrza bo jest i bedzie tylko jeden nóż :)
Świetna robota, super. Wrzucaj częściej filmy, bo fajnie się ogląda to co robisz. Widzę, że masz swoich trzech antysubskrybentów? Pewnie stara szkoła, że tak się nie robi, że może zabić itd.
Finaly a flying cutter made well!
It has enough weight and diameter to operate well.
Nicely done dude!
Thanks :)
@Chris the disk is well mounted to the spidle. The two bolts are simply a safty design i guess. It doesn't spin on high rev, so if it breaks down no one gonna get any damage. But if you mill a channen into the disk, the whole spindle and disk going to get serious damage.
I realy disagree with you.
@Chris i like when people come with their experience. No offense by the way.
I have also experience in making my own custom tools for a specific job. But also I have less experience in years compered to you (if true). But it doesn't mean anything.
My opinion is, this is a well made flying cutter. It doesn't need high RPM to operate at optimal. So the chance it makes serious accidents is very low. I agree with you about the bolts, but it doesn't need any channel or clamping mechanism to tighten it.
Just think about the weight of the disk. With a channel and clamping it would make worse damage in both the operator and the machine. As I said, with higher diameter you earn the same surface cutting speed with less rpm. It just need proper balancing.
А оказалось что ничего сложного:) ...всё просто как автомат Калашникова!
Задумка и воплощение просто супер👍
Thanks :)
а все дело то во фрезерном станке. для него все что угодно придумать можно. а видос и идея класс!
@@user-zj9et2yd4q так это чё, фрезу што ли делал для фрезерного, у него чё нет фрез такого диаметра
Artysta.
Głowica splanowana to można spowrotem wyje....... :p
Pozdro Mistrzu.
Nie ma takiej uszczelki pod taką głowice🙂
@@Raven916s
kupujesz arkusz ,robisz szablon, a potem wycinasz
@@marcinszelest A jak masz waterjet za rogiem to w ogóle bajka ;)
You nailed it! Good job!
Super pomysł.Na planowanie zajebista sprawa.Sprzet pryma sort
Panie kurna mam 40 lat ale weź mnie na praktyki. Zapłacę!
Od razu jak zobaczylem co robisz to przyszła mi do głowy taka myśl "a jakby spróbował splanować tym glowicę" A tu na końcu pach proszzzz. 😂🤪
Witam, super projekt jak zawsze 😉 można wiedzieć gdzie kupiłeś taki nóż?
Wow, very nice finish!
Интересный факт:
Вы не искали это видео
Нет!Но это интересно!
Я его так уже второй раз посмотрел.
Masz genialne pomysły czekam na kolejne nowinki z Twojego warsztatu pozdrawiam 🛠🔨🔧🔩
Anand loading swas
Twojej roboty słowami nie da się opisać no podziw wielki podziw
Beautiful job on the cylinder head! I only wish my milling machine had enough travel on the axes to fly cut a head. Nice tool.
Muito bom parabéns 👏👏👏
nice work, only thing i would have done is slotted where the tool holder bolts up.
That was my thinking too. Cutting a triangle would work as well. More easy to perform with the opportunity to fix the bolts 90 degrees around to have them in turning direction, gives the tool more stability.
That reflection in the test plate made my jaw drop.
gringe at the large handles on that tap
amazing video as usual!
Я бы упор выфрезеровал под державку а то как то на одних болтах не серьёзно .
Не так лучше оставить ведь если ошибается во время выставления сорвет болты, и шпиндель толком не получает удара хотя это только предположение
As they say in Transylvania: "Berry Noice!"
Good job looks solid, I wondered if the three indexing tips had to be checked for height then tightened. Would be good to see a DTI run along the profile after the cut.
Looks like the second thingy is just a balance weight opposite the cutter?
The moment I saw your arms cross I just knew that tap would snap on you! cool video all the same
Под резцы надо было профрезеровать в диске пазы. А то шляпа какая-то...
Второй не нужен . Он все равно не берёт . Это видно по узору .
Это противовес
Uh, yes? 😓
@@letsgoBrandon204 15 likes say - yes, sure
@@leather_brother_52 ну не на хорошей же головке фрезу проверять?
Na mnie widok obrabianego metalu na tokarkach małych dużych nieważne działa super relaksujące i jestem tym coś magicznego pozdrawiam Staszek
chyba przez tą perfekcje
@@iron4055 to trzeba Matiemu przyznać
Lepiej dać 2 plytki na średnicy 60 mm czy np 8 ?
Mam podobnie jak Pan Stanisław. Pozdrawiam
@@iron4055,
Pszepiękna jest ta praca i pszepiękny jest ten cały pomysł pozdrawiam twórcę tego filmiku na kanale yutube 👍👍👍👍
Łał. Świetny projekcik. ☝️😁🤩
when the tap broke - my heart went booom!!!
Elegancka robota!
Admiración y respetos pa un señor!
Хорошая работа, бро! 🤘
Great job,
But how did you took out the broken piece of the tapping bit from the fly cutter @ 5:08 ??
I think he extracted it by cutting the piece out with the broken tap in it with an angle grinder,and welded it up.
Norbert Hajzer
But the bit has broken at the edge of the fly cutter surface , there is no extension part above the fly surface for welding !!
@@user-jq5hp8sz9c Yeah but he could true it up on the lathe after the welding.
I did this a couple of times, just cut a"v"out of the material,and weld it back up,but only if it's mild steel, otherwise it will harden.
How did you get that broken tread cutter out? Have never seen the trick on youtube?
Magic :)
@@MateuszDoniec Well after my first try to recover from such a situation ... that seem plausible ;) ... I just redid the compete part ...
@@AppliedMathematician www.google.com/search?q=wykr%C4%99tak&client=firefox-b-d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjCrbb0mbzrAhVO26QKHbz9CbwQ_AUoAXoECAwQAw&biw=1396&bih=762#imgrc=US3KJ5QFXrNQvM
You can use a hole saw and cut around it, then press a bushing in there, for example. Or just weld the whole thing, turn it and start over on a new spot... Pretty simple as it's a round part.
You can drill it out with table drill
When I was an apprentice flycut many Jaguar inline 6 cylinder heads for local garage, that was in the 1960's. Made a beautiful job on the alloy heads, worse part was clamping themout with distorting. Used check with in engineers blue on marking off table.
Impressive .even I don't have a flying click,or a shell milling cutter, I'm using 20mm endmill in my cnc VMC .
excellent ..but i would like to see how you remove the broken piece .. saludos from Mexico ..
Правильно что выкинул в конце, там получился радиус, если сзади не гребло.
I have no idea what you are saying, but I'm sure its something along the lines of, 'that tool is strong like bull or bear.' So I'm giving you a thumbs up!
Почему?
@@sevenliterbronco моя твоя не понимай
Пара соток вогнутости прекрасно уберётся прокладкой, а делают так, когда не хватает хода стола и у клиентов возникают вопросы, почему рисунок от фрезы не одинаковый.
De lujo Maestro. Está chingon ese aditamento. Que marca es su fresadora. Saludos desde México.👍
5:07 аж нерв прострелило...
Концовка огонь)))
Почти такая же фигня..)
А нефиг было без прочистки резьбу резать,вот и головняк словил.))
Охренеть, какое зеркало. Класс 👍
А не особо верю
Wunderschön, wie du den Zylinderblock nach der Demonstration wieder auf dem Müll schmeißt 😂😂😂
Amazing, what a skills
Witaj majster twoja tokareczka robi świetną robotę pozdro
Parabéns
Jak ja lubię oglądać, jak się rzeźbi w metalu.☺
To tak jak ja 😁
Now thats my idea of a fly cuttre!!
Good project. Very heavy duty.
5:05 I cried out.
Still want to know how you got the broken tap out?
Drill
@@arc7208 doesnt work that well
EDM is probably best, but cost and time.
He drilled it out and used a larger tap
You cry for a week trying to get it out and at the end you just make a new part :D
Love the final scene
Smooth as butter. Love it.
That is impressive work.
You guys do great, let's create together, see you all
Класс !!!
this is what makes youtube great!
thanks for the share!
larry
Fantastic build. Simple and effective
But not safe.
Oh this is gonna be fun, he's rebuilding an entire engine... oh nevermind! :)
When those cheap bolts fatigue... Snap... and let loose their carbide furry upon it's creator.
So what is the solution ?
Press in a tool using an interferance fit
@@manjumanl5279 engage your safety squwints!
10 points 😊 Great work.
As the cylinder-head observed later: 'There are no flies on me, but you can see where they've been.'