Yeah, apologies for that. Kids take a lot of your time, especially when they're young, but I've got a whole bunch coming in the coming weeks so hopefully business as usual from now on. This video took way too long because of audio issues.
Presenter: "don't talk crap". Me: "subscribe". China is the place to look if you want to know what's happening in the electrification space. Don't take my word for it. Michael Leibriech says the same. So a great channel to stumble upon.
That folding third row is certainly a great feature which makes the X9 significantly more versatile than any 3 row crossover, although I don't know why they designed it in a way where only the seat back is split 60:40. All the minivans in the US market feature this very useful folding 3rd row, which also disappears into the deep cargo hold to make a flat load floor, however they fold with a different hinge, and you can choose to fold only part of the seat into the cargo hold. This makes it far more useful because you can create a partial flat load floor but still allow 1 or 2 people to sit in the third row depending on if you folded the 40 side or 60 side. You can also remove the 2nd row seats altogether in the US market Honda Odyssey and Toyota Sienna to create a truly massive flat loading floor if you really need to haul cargo. If the lower and mid trim X9 had a split folding third row and a removable 2nd row like the US market minivans, it would truly be the perfect MPV for the family, especially since it will have superior tech and driving dynamics, and massively improved maneuverability due to the rear wheel steering and air suspension.
I agree, being able to fold half into the floor would be cool, as would having seats you can remove. I think for Europe and the States, it might be a nice idea to remove the captain's chairs and have removable seats. We had a Renault Scenic back in 1997 and you could remove all the 3 back seats one by one (it was only a 2-row car), put them back in as a 4-seater, flip the middle one up to have an armrest and cupholders, store stuff under them, under the floor, all kinds. It was awesome.
@@InsideChinaAutoafaik the regulations in China not allowing you to remove seat. So, if your documents said you are 7 seater, you can't remove 1 or 2 seats. So, maybe for the export version they can make a removable seat.
@hanmi1216 Ah, that's interesting, I'd never heard of that. Makes sense. Though I see plenty of the little Wuling and Chana vans with their rear benches removed, but they're just bolts. Moving a whole captain's chair would be much more difficult and tiresome
@@InsideChinaAuto I wonder what happens if you pulled only one of the buttons for 3 seconds. Would it only fold one of the seats. I've never seen anyone did that before, but it would make sense to me. But I do know that you can fold the backseats seats forward.
With the 3rd row down and 2nd row forward you can fit 4 bikes in there so I'm guessing you can sleep. Failing that, lie the front seats down, recline the second row seats, and you're good to go.
My only gripe with most Chinese luxury MPVs are 3rd row seats don’t slide backwards even though there are still plenty of space. Rear luggage aren’t always used as much as people seating on the 3rd rows is
Great car!!! 😍😍😍 I'd drive it today, and if it comes to Europe, I think that some people will change their mind in relation to SUVs 😁😁😁 Thank you very much for another great video, and I was wondering if you work full time testing cars, or you have another job there? If you don't mind my question 😉 Anyway, you are very lucky having access to all this is incredible vehicles! 👏👏👏
As of April, I'm full-time on this now, making videos and other content on the Chinese industry. I am indeed a lucky guy. Glad you liked the video. Apologies for the audio, had some microphone issues. Won't happen again.
@@InsideChinaAuto 👏👏👏👏 Thank you very much for the response, and I am really happy that you are fully dedicated to showing us what's in China. You and us, your subscribers, are very lucky 😉😉 Oh, and I did not detect any audio issues, so I guess they weren't very big 😁😁
China is the only country in the world that has satellite navigation, space programme, high speed rail, chips, LCD panels, home built commercial vessels and planes.
Video is normal speed but the audio was a bodge job I'm afraid because the microphone failed losing all the audio. My apologies. Had to get the video out one way or another and it took an age just to get it this close to normal.
It's a really tough question now the 009 has been updated. The X9's big ace is its practicality and rear wheel steering which almost make it worth buying on their own. If you want real grace and elegance, you probably take the 009.
That rear end was a jumpscare. What in the world were they thinking... Also, the mundaneness of this design made me appreciate the ZEEKR 009's insanity a bit more.
If I would need a minivan I would like better to have normal 3seats on the 2nd row and the back end to be straight, similar to a ford galaxy. And I would enjoy better to be able to fold all the seats and use it like a minivan sometimes. It's a nice car overall.
It's very pretty, and looks quite luxurious, but that is not an MPV for young families. My head would be on a swivel as the kids would try to test and press every button within reach every single drive. This looks targeted more towards the executive market.
You could possibly lock all the seat faffing from the system, I didn't look at that though so not sure. As long as they're in the back, no problem, right? Works very well for both families and executive use, though I'll be waiting for the Zeekr MIX to maybe see if that's better for families.
Given the LM was launched at the Shanghai Auto Show last year and the X9 just a few months later, I highly doubt anything was copied. Cars are designed around 24 months in advance or more in the the west.
Haha a lexus LM? 😂 oh boy which part that look like LM? Didn't see anything that look like it. Don't brainwashed by Japanese trash van 😂. They like scandal so much
Well it's just meant to be cushy and I guess that's OK, but I'd like a bit more stability ideally, just not so squishy. Zeekr do this really well with the SEA platform.
Apologies for the audio. My microphone failed and lost everything and this was the best I could patch it up. Check out our other videos, they're much better I promise.
Yes, my apologies John. Had some real audio issues on this one due to a failing DJI microphone and this is the best I could paste it together afterwards.
looks great, but really wished it had 450+ miles/700+ km on full charge,the idea is to minimize amnt of timesyou visit a charger station, i mean, who likes visiting hospitals???!!!
Its the same thing happening with pickup in US. Companies adding cost but not value to cars. Most european families are not in the market for a £50k monster (£70k by the time it gets to UK). Ford Cmax, grand picasso, zafira etc is what people want sub £30k. Give that car 5 years most of that stuff will not work or your mechanic will go who are Xpeng. Are they still around ? (100s of these manufacturers gone bust in the last 4-5 years).
Well you're miles away from the truth there David, particularly in relation to the 100s of manufacturers going bust. The truth is about 99% of those companies were never manufacturers. They were companies set up in the hope of becoming manufacturers who might take advantage of the benefits on offer if they could succeed but the vast majority never made it far enough to even make a car, let alone get one on sale. There have been a handful of failures, Byton, Enovate, Weltmeister, Evergrande, immediately spring to mind, though all very different circumstances. Many people cite these "400 companies" that the media likes to parrot yet nobody can name them or show the EVs they 'manufactured'.
Well you're miles away from the truth there David, particularly in relation to the 100s of manufacturers going bust. The truth is about 99% of those companies were never manufacturers. They were companies set up in the hope of becoming manufacturers who might take advantage of the benefits on offer if they could succeed but the vast majority never made it far enough to even make a car, let alone get one on sale. There have been a handful of failures, Byton, Enovate, Weltmeister, Evergrande, immediately spring to mind, though all very different circumstances. Many people cite these "400 companies" that the media likes to parrot yet nobody can name them or show the EVs they 'manufactured'.
Don't say I haven't seen enough futuristic features of EV. Car manufacturing needs years and years of experiences. Chinese EV only brings cheap products, the only competitive point. You feel big brands don't know how to make all these features?
@@bluekenya4825 new standard of socialism which becomes popular in democratic countries. New standard of working hours and new standard of medical care and new standard of labor laws, and new standard of corruption.
Haha, no the full name is Xiao (shao) Peng (pong), but most call them XPeng (the way the e is pronounced in Chinese is similar to an o sound but not quite the same)
Xpeng is my favorite car company. Great software, styling and product mix.
They're really good and only getting better. They offer really a lot for not a great deal of cost.
Pls how can I get this car imported to Ghana?@@InsideChinaAuto
Just got one X9 702 max few weeks ago! Love it! Great car with family!
Amazing. Glad you're enjoying it. It's a fantastic MPV, the best overall in my opinion.
That's an MPV done right!
It is. Really awesome MPV this.
You've been gone a long while - nice to see your review again!
Yeah, apologies for that. Kids take a lot of your time, especially when they're young, but I've got a whole bunch coming in the coming weeks so hopefully business as usual from now on. This video took way too long because of audio issues.
@@InsideChinaAuto You've got a bunch of kids coming just in the coming weeks!?
@@dawsap1 Haha, nice one. No, a bunch of reviews. Don't think I'm quite as virile as Genghis Khan or The Hoff. 🤣
that aint no MPV thats a mars terrain vehicle
Pretty cool, right?
they do have a advertise infer that
What a great MPV. Would surely sell well in Europe if it was allowed.....
I think we are too SUV obsessed to consider an MPV, I think a cheaper EV MPV with decent range might do well as a cab / ride share vehicle though
I'd love to believe so too. I'm praying that we get to the point we have a change of trend and move to MPV.
@@JetsetDruid Surely this SUV craze will go down when people realize how stupid it is...but at the moment it's still going strong
@@JetsetDruida Tank will suit you lol!
@@XantoS771 I shudder to think what kind of unnecessary nonsense people will move onto if the SUV craze dies out!
Presenter: "don't talk crap". Me: "subscribe". China is the place to look if you want to know what's happening in the electrification space. Don't take my word for it. Michael Leibriech says the same. So a great channel to stumble upon.
Great to have you with us Dan. Completely echo your sentiments. This is where it's happening.
That folding third row is certainly a great feature which makes the X9 significantly more versatile than any 3 row crossover, although I don't know why they designed it in a way where only the seat back is split 60:40. All the minivans in the US market feature this very useful folding 3rd row, which also disappears into the deep cargo hold to make a flat load floor, however they fold with a different hinge, and you can choose to fold only part of the seat into the cargo hold. This makes it far more useful because you can create a partial flat load floor but still allow 1 or 2 people to sit in the third row depending on if you folded the 40 side or 60 side. You can also remove the 2nd row seats altogether in the US market Honda Odyssey and Toyota Sienna to create a truly massive flat loading floor if you really need to haul cargo.
If the lower and mid trim X9 had a split folding third row and a removable 2nd row like the US market minivans, it would truly be the perfect MPV for the family, especially since it will have superior tech and driving dynamics, and massively improved maneuverability due to the rear wheel steering and air suspension.
I agree, being able to fold half into the floor would be cool, as would having seats you can remove. I think for Europe and the States, it might be a nice idea to remove the captain's chairs and have removable seats. We had a Renault Scenic back in 1997 and you could remove all the 3 back seats one by one (it was only a 2-row car), put them back in as a 4-seater, flip the middle one up to have an armrest and cupholders, store stuff under them, under the floor, all kinds. It was awesome.
@@InsideChinaAutoafaik the regulations in China not allowing you to remove seat. So, if your documents said you are 7 seater, you can't remove 1 or 2 seats. So, maybe for the export version they can make a removable seat.
@hanmi1216 Ah, that's interesting, I'd never heard of that. Makes sense. Though I see plenty of the little Wuling and Chana vans with their rear benches removed, but they're just bolts. Moving a whole captain's chair would be much more difficult and tiresome
@@InsideChinaAuto I wonder what happens if you pulled only one of the buttons for 3 seconds. Would it only fold one of the seats. I've never seen anyone did that before, but it would make sense to me. But I do know that you can fold the backseats seats forward.
@networm78 Might have to look at that but I don't think it's possible to hold half into the floor.
The Best from China are XPENG! Great video!
They're a great brand. Some other really impressive ones out there like Zeekr, Li, and NIO are good too.
Is there enough space with the seats down to sleep in the back? Key issue for many people!
With the 3rd row down and 2nd row forward you can fit 4 bikes in there so I'm guessing you can sleep. Failing that, lie the front seats down, recline the second row seats, and you're good to go.
My only gripe with most Chinese luxury MPVs are 3rd row seats don’t slide backwards even though there are still plenty of space. Rear luggage aren’t always used as much as people seating on the 3rd rows is
That's true, but you do get plenty of space there anyway. I'm curious to see how LEVC will get 4 row in their new car.
It's beautiful i gottta say
It gets better the more you see it.
insane car. the xpev stock is massively undervalued
I think so, though I'm not a stock guy. They got a new top level designer in too just recently.
UK market is desperate for MPV and Chinese sales department is sleeping 🤦🏻
Haha, bit by bit mate. They've just launched this in Hong Kong so RHD for UK is hopefully around the corner.
Love this car!
It's cool, right?
Amazing ride. Luxurious and uniquely style inside out.
Very much so. Cracking car.
Great sharing.
You're welcome. Check out our other videos, we have more cool stuff.
China is doing great work in manufacturing and innovation .Their cars seem like they are at the top now .
Very much feels that way on many levels.
Great car!!! 😍😍😍 I'd drive it today, and if it comes to Europe, I think that some people will change their mind in relation to SUVs 😁😁😁
Thank you very much for another great video, and I was wondering if you work full time testing cars, or you have another job there? If you don't mind my question 😉 Anyway, you are very lucky having access to all this is incredible vehicles! 👏👏👏
As of April, I'm full-time on this now, making videos and other content on the Chinese industry. I am indeed a lucky guy.
Glad you liked the video. Apologies for the audio, had some microphone issues. Won't happen again.
@@InsideChinaAuto 👏👏👏👏 Thank you very much for the response, and I am really happy that you are fully dedicated to showing us what's in China. You and us, your subscribers, are very lucky 😉😉
Oh, and I did not detect any audio issues, so I guess they weren't very big 😁😁
@@deltajohnny You're very welcome, and thank you so much for subscribing.
@@deltajohnny You're very welcome, and thank you so much for subscribing.
Military overcapacity countries blame overcapacity in countries that produce affordable cost-effective products😢
Exactly.
China is the only country in the world that has satellite navigation, space programme, high speed rail, chips, LCD panels, home built commercial vessels and planes.
@@InsideChinaAuto so much overcapacity it gives free weapons to Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan...
Awesome MPV ❤❤❤
It is. Bring back MPVs!
BUY.
I should. Very tempted.
Thank you for a wonderful review, this is undoubtedly one crazy good vehicle 😅
It is. It's got almost everything.
Proper stuff ❤
This is how you ride.
Front 👍
Rear 🤔
Interior 👌
Exactly.
It's impressive and Ugly at the sane time. What a interior features. Amazing.
Haha, it can have that effect. Front good, back...not so good.
Happy Inside China Auto upload day!
This one has been far too long coming. Nightmare having to edit this together with no audio, and it shows.
Is the video speed is higher than usual! I had to slow it to 0.75
Nice helpful review thanks👌🏼
Video is normal speed but the audio was a bodge job I'm afraid because the microphone failed losing all the audio. My apologies. Had to get the video out one way or another and it took an age just to get it this close to normal.
@@InsideChinaAuto aha.. Nevertheless you did a great job.
@@MBB617 Thank you. I honestly don't like putting out sub-standard stuff, I try to keep my standards high, but my hands were tied this time.
@@InsideChinaAuto No worries mate,, out of the blue things happen but still miles better than others.
@@MBB617You're too kind. 🙏
What to go for.... this or the Zeekr 009!?
It's a really tough question now the 009 has been updated. The X9's big ace is its practicality and rear wheel steering which almost make it worth buying on their own. If you want real grace and elegance, you probably take the 009.
That rear end was a jumpscare. What in the world were they thinking...
Also, the mundaneness of this design made me appreciate the ZEEKR 009's insanity a bit more.
Yeah the back is a bit... hmm. But it's a bit more safe than a 009 while still looking quite good.
If I would need a minivan I would like better to have normal 3seats on the 2nd row and the back end to be straight, similar to a ford galaxy. And I would enjoy better to be able to fold all the seats and use it like a minivan sometimes.
It's a nice car overall.
Yeah, these are more luxury buses for premium travel. Nothing beats the original Espace.
It's very pretty, and looks quite luxurious, but that is not an MPV for young families.
My head would be on a swivel as the kids would try to test and press every button within reach every single drive.
This looks targeted more towards the executive market.
You could possibly lock all the seat faffing from the system, I didn't look at that though so not sure. As long as they're in the back, no problem, right? Works very well for both families and executive use, though I'll be waiting for the Zeekr MIX to maybe see if that's better for families.
设计师没有走出丰田Lexus 暗影， front bottom skirt copy Lexus
Given the LM was launched at the Shanghai Auto Show last year and the X9 just a few months later, I highly doubt anything was copied. Cars are designed around 24 months in advance or more in the the west.
Haha a lexus LM? 😂 oh boy which part that look like LM? Didn't see anything that look like it. Don't brainwashed by Japanese trash van 😂. They like scandal so much
Front looks nice but the back is kind of awkward
Agreed. Think it could avoid the divot on the back.
this is not a car anymore its rather a starship
A starship indeed.
A starship indeed.
Looks great. Shame about the dynamics.
Well it's just meant to be cushy and I guess that's OK, but I'd like a bit more stability ideally, just not so squishy. Zeekr do this really well with the SEA platform.
Reminds me of my Citroën Grand Picasso. One criticism: Could you please pronounce clearer? At the end of your sentence, you tend to mumble. 😊
Apologies for the audio. My microphone failed and lost everything and this was the best I could patch it up. Check out our other videos, they're much better I promise.
Your sound quality is very muffled
Yes, my apologies John. Had some real audio issues on this one due to a failing DJI microphone and this is the best I could paste it together afterwards.
looks great, but really wished it had 450+ miles/700+ km on full charge,the idea is to minimize amnt of timesyou visit a charger station, i mean, who likes visiting hospitals???!!!
Is that the only place you can find chargers where you are?
@@InsideChinaAuto hehe,its a metaphoric phrase, and i see you dont do well with positive critism
Its the same thing happening with pickup in US. Companies adding cost but not value to cars. Most european families are not in the market for a £50k monster (£70k by the time it gets to UK). Ford Cmax, grand picasso, zafira etc is what people want sub £30k. Give that car 5 years most of that stuff will not work or your mechanic will go who are Xpeng. Are they still around ? (100s of these manufacturers gone bust in the last 4-5 years).
Well you're miles away from the truth there David, particularly in relation to the 100s of manufacturers going bust. The truth is about 99% of those companies were never manufacturers. They were companies set up in the hope of becoming manufacturers who might take advantage of the benefits on offer if they could succeed but the vast majority never made it far enough to even make a car, let alone get one on sale. There have been a handful of failures, Byton, Enovate, Weltmeister, Evergrande, immediately spring to mind, though all very different circumstances. Many people cite these "400 companies" that the media likes to parrot yet nobody can name them or show the EVs they 'manufactured'.
Well you're miles away from the truth there David, particularly in relation to the 100s of manufacturers going bust. The truth is about 99% of those companies were never manufacturers. They were companies set up in the hope of becoming manufacturers who might take advantage of the benefits on offer if they could succeed but the vast majority never made it far enough to even make a car, let alone get one on sale. There have been a handful of failures, Byton, Enovate, Weltmeister, Evergrande, immediately spring to mind, though all very different circumstances. Many people cite these "400 companies" that the media likes to parrot yet nobody can name them or show the EVs they 'manufactured'.
Don't say I haven't seen enough futuristic features of EV. Car manufacturing needs years and years of experiences. Chinese EV only brings cheap products, the only competitive point. You feel big brands don't know how to make all these features?
Why don't they use them?
@@InsideChinaAuto better wait and see. I don't want to make false claim.
They are setting the new standard in EVs.
@@bluekenya4825 new standard of socialism which becomes popular in democratic countries. New standard of working hours and new standard of medical care and new standard of labor laws, and new standard of corruption.
The best? Let's see the price first 😂
It's XPeng, so unfortunately not gonna be cheap...
This price is in the video. That's why, in my opinion, it's the best.
For the features it provides,it's value for money. In fact, at under 50K USD for the base trim, It's the cheapest NEV MPV in its class
@@networm78 And the best seller in its segment as a result.
It's pronounced sh'peng.
Haha, no the full name is Xiao (shao) Peng (pong), but most call them XPeng (the way the e is pronounced in Chinese is similar to an o sound but not quite the same)
@@InsideChinaAuto I was repeating what others have corrected. It's definitely not X-Peng.
That's zero book value in 2-3 years. Don't waste your money
Why's that?
Hi.