I love ThinkPads. Not always the best specs, but they're built like tanks. My only gripe is I wish Lenovo would offer a 90Hz or 120Hz display on the T series.
Well, even the Ideapad Slim 3 (AMD Ryzen 5 CPU, 16gb RAM, Radeon iGPU) I got seems like a very robust laptop, even if it's just a budget-friendly machine. The IPS screen it has, even if it's just 60hz, is so crisp and easy on the eyes that I found myself using the laptop even at night with no problem. I would say Lenovo makes quality products, on the same level of DELL or Apple.
That's great, how much did it cost after the discounts? This one was about 800 bucks, but only 16 gigs of RAM and 256 gig SSD. I really wanted the low power IPS screen.
I got an Ideapad Slim 3 with AMD Ryzen 5 CPU, Radeon 610m IGPU, 16 GB of RAM, 512 GB SSD and Antiglare IPS screen. Got It for just $500. This is my very first Lenovo laptop. And so far i'm really liking It. The screen, while only 60hz, it's easy on the eyes and the battery is enough to do 5 hours of work with no problems. I've been hearing a lot about Thinkpads, but my old 13yo VAIO crapped on me, was on a tight budget and I needed a new replacement ASAP, and the Ideapad certainly was a great choice. But I will probably get a Thinkpad, someday, when the money permits it.
It also has significantly worse battery life, and if the touchpad is similar the the Asus G16, then it's unusable for me, not to mention the OLED screen having color shift issues with black text on white backgrounds. Could be a good machine for some gaming though since it has a GPU, but I think I'd rather save the $600 and get a portable monitor and some other stuff for work on the go.
@@stevenswallVery solid points, but in my experience with the pro art for 2 months, I get about 7 hours on a heavy usage and about 10 browsing. What is your experience with the battery on the gen 3?
@@yousefmheisen917I go by the notebook check standardized battery tests since we likely have different workflows. With the screen one step down from full brightness, about 11 hours. With the pro art, I imagine I would get half that, closer to the Asus g16. Unfortunately, I also wouldn't be willing to pay the extra for the color shift on text, and the terrible touchpad experience I had with the Asus g16... Plus I can't upgrade the RAM or replace the battery, and I don't recall there being IR camera login, or a fingerprint reader. Not terrible for a gaming laptop, but incredibly frustrating for me to use the g16, and likely the proart since it is similar.
holy shit. Im a Mac and Linux guy but have been looking at tring a thinkpad at least once. I love the OG basic look. Maybe just barmetal Linux so wont need a massive amount of RAM *GB will do. I run baremetal on a tiny 2012 macbook air with 8GB RAM and its amazing so an old thinkpad has to be good
I just bought a TongFang GX4 to use as a Linux workstation, no idea what it's gonna be like. I normally buy T-series ThinkPads, but I really wanted a higher refresh rate display.
Yeah, I gave up on higher refresh rate screens because the Lenovo Legion, Framework 16, and Asus G16 I tried before this had horrible battery life and other issues that made me return them. This one surprisingly frustrated me the least even though it's the cheapest.
@@stevenswall thanks. At this point, I've gotten two lemons from mercari, and an aftermarket pack from Amazon that ended up dying in 2 days. All were returnable, thankfully. Will give Kingsener a go.
@@stevenswall Interesting, you must have gotten a lemon then. I now have 3 (one in my T430, one in my T530 and one in my X230t) They all achieve their rated capacity, with the 2022-04 T530 one now having about 7% wear after 161 cycles, and the other 2 have 0 wear, but are quite recent. I do have an OEM 9-cell recell with 3000 mAh cells in plan. We will se how that compares.
No, this one is the 12 core, 14 thread core ultra 5. The 5 and 7 options are all very close to each other benchmark wise so I didn't bother with an upgrade.
Thinkpad quality is not like before. Their motherboards develop problems and power supplies are poor. Atleast they could have a high resolution Retina display in 2024 .
You can run windows 10 no problems, all variants. Just recently microsoft start backpaddling and allow installing win 11, but don't do it. It is an useless OS.
@@TheMrJaggasingh12 Stay on windows 10 for now. 3 quarters of all PC users are on windows 10. Do not worry about it. Before next fall there might be new alternatives.
@@Drottninggatan2017 Thanks for replying man. It sucks if I buy a new laptop it will have all the gunky windows 11. Wish there was a way to bypass new builds
What do you like better about the e16 besides the screen? The higher the resolution and the higher the refresh rate, the worse the battery life, and battery life was really important to me on a mobile device. I already have a 4090+7800 x3d setup for my desktop. Usually I go with the major lines like the T and W ones, is the E just as good build wise? Does seem like it's a bit cheaper what you recommended if I look on Amazon, I'm curious if it comes with the internal magnesium chassis, and if all the other specs are similar.
@@stevenswall currently lenovo makes strange configs for it's lines, trying to separate them, and lack of AMD models at all, I saw review on reddit and E series has good build quality now but full aluminium, it has similar internals, not sure it is same reparable as T models, currently T models are made with help of Ifixit. From what I found worth attention for now is refubrished P14s AMD Gen 5 with 64GB and OLED screen for 1.1k USD. In general not too much choice for 16 inches at all for thinkpads...
I love ThinkPads. Not always the best specs, but they're built like tanks. My only gripe is I wish Lenovo would offer a 90Hz or 120Hz display on the T series.
Yeah, a 120hz display and a 99 watt hour battery on this would be excellent.
T stands for Tanks.
Well, even the Ideapad Slim 3 (AMD Ryzen 5 CPU, 16gb RAM, Radeon iGPU) I got seems like a very robust laptop, even if it's just a budget-friendly machine.
The IPS screen it has, even if it's just 60hz, is so crisp and easy on the eyes that I found myself using the laptop even at night with no problem.
I would say Lenovo makes quality products, on the same level of DELL or Apple.
Great video and I love the comparison to W530, it's hard to replace the classics, they just do things so well.
thanks for the comparison mate, iwas thinking to have T16 tbh. use W530 too as my home media device at the moment
Scored one for black friday... 32 gb, 1tb, touch screen. Cant wait. Replacing my 6 year old yoga 730 15ikb
That's great, how much did it cost after the discounts? This one was about 800 bucks, but only 16 gigs of RAM and 256 gig SSD. I really wanted the low power IPS screen.
I got an Ideapad Slim 3 with AMD Ryzen 5 CPU, Radeon 610m IGPU, 16 GB of RAM, 512 GB SSD and Antiglare IPS screen.
Got It for just $500.
This is my very first Lenovo laptop. And so far i'm really liking It.
The screen, while only 60hz, it's easy on the eyes and the battery is enough to do 5 hours of work with no problems.
I've been hearing a lot about Thinkpads, but my old 13yo VAIO crapped on me, was on a tight budget and I needed a new replacement ASAP, and the Ideapad certainly was a great choice.
But I will probably get a Thinkpad, someday, when the money permits it.
Look into the proart p16. Its a all aluminum case with a similar build to the new t16, open box at best buy is 1400-1500 usd.
It also has significantly worse battery life, and if the touchpad is similar the the Asus G16, then it's unusable for me, not to mention the OLED screen having color shift issues with black text on white backgrounds.
Could be a good machine for some gaming though since it has a GPU, but I think I'd rather save the $600 and get a portable monitor and some other stuff for work on the go.
@@stevenswallVery solid points, but in my experience with the pro art for 2 months, I get about 7 hours on a heavy usage and about 10 browsing. What is your experience with the battery on the gen 3?
@@yousefmheisen917I go by the notebook check standardized battery tests since we likely have different workflows.
With the screen one step down from full brightness, about 11 hours.
With the pro art, I imagine I would get half that, closer to the Asus g16.
Unfortunately, I also wouldn't be willing to pay the extra for the color shift on text, and the terrible touchpad experience I had with the Asus g16... Plus I can't upgrade the RAM or replace the battery, and I don't recall there being IR camera login, or a fingerprint reader.
Not terrible for a gaming laptop, but incredibly frustrating for me to use the g16, and likely the proart since it is similar.
The t16 gen 3 should have touchscreen
holy shit. Im a Mac and Linux guy but have been looking at tring a thinkpad at least once. I love the OG basic look. Maybe just barmetal Linux so wont need a massive amount of RAM *GB will do. I run baremetal on a tiny 2012 macbook air with 8GB RAM and its amazing so an old thinkpad has to be good
sad that lenovo doesnt sell refurbished stuff in europe
I just bought a TongFang GX4 to use as a Linux workstation, no idea what it's gonna be like. I normally buy T-series ThinkPads, but I really wanted a higher refresh rate display.
Yeah, I gave up on higher refresh rate screens because the Lenovo Legion, Framework 16, and Asus G16 I tried before this had horrible battery life and other issues that made me return them. This one surprisingly frustrated me the least even though it's the cheapest.
How is the Kingsener battery? I've got one coming for my T530 and looking forward to using it again.
When new it only holds about 70% of the charge of the OEM one.
@@stevenswall thanks. At this point, I've gotten two lemons from mercari, and an aftermarket pack from Amazon that ended up dying in 2 days. All were returnable, thankfully. Will give Kingsener a go.
@@stevenswall Interesting, you must have gotten a lemon then. I now have 3 (one in my T430, one in my T530 and one in my X230t) They all achieve their rated capacity, with the 2022-04 T530 one now having about 7% wear after 161 cycles, and the other 2 have 0 wear, but are quite recent. I do have an OEM 9-cell recell with 3000 mAh cells in plan. We will se how that compares.
@@express496 Are they the extended batteries? Maybe their normal ones are better, but after half a dozen cycles mine hasn't been good at all.
@@stevenswallyou must have got a dud, my kingsener is about a year old and reports 84wh of capacity
What upgrade can be done to the ThinkPad T16 Gen 3? Regarding RAM and storage?
Any single sided m.2 SSD (up to 2TB basically.
Whatever DDR5 you want as far as I can tell.
Intel® Core™ Ultra 7 165U vPro® Processor has 12 cores. Is that what you have on the T16 Gen 3?
No, this one is the 12 core, 14 thread core ultra 5. The 5 and 7 options are all very close to each other benchmark wise so I didn't bother with an upgrade.
Thinkpad quality is not like before. Their motherboards develop problems and power supplies are poor. Atleast they could have a high resolution Retina display in 2024 .
The older thinkpads are slower due to sata ATA interface
What windows version can one run on an old Thinkpad from 2012?
You can run windows 10 no problems, all variants.
Just recently microsoft start backpaddling and allow installing win 11, but don't do it. It is an useless OS.
@@Drottninggatan2017 Which OS would you recommend after windows 10?
@@TheMrJaggasingh12
Stay on windows 10 for now. 3 quarters of all PC users are on windows 10.
Do not worry about it. Before next fall there might be new alternatives.
@@Drottninggatan2017 Thanks for replying man. It sucks if I buy a new laptop it will have all the gunky windows 11. Wish there was a way to bypass new builds
Better to take e16 with 2.5k screen, T16 worth only with OLED, others are just trash.
What do you like better about the e16 besides the screen? The higher the resolution and the higher the refresh rate, the worse the battery life, and battery life was really important to me on a mobile device. I already have a 4090+7800 x3d setup for my desktop.
Usually I go with the major lines like the T and W ones, is the E just as good build wise? Does seem like it's a bit cheaper what you recommended if I look on Amazon, I'm curious if it comes with the internal magnesium chassis, and if all the other specs are similar.
@@stevenswall currently lenovo makes strange configs for it's lines, trying to separate them, and lack of AMD models at all, I saw review on reddit and E series has good build quality now but full aluminium, it has similar internals, not sure it is same reparable as T models, currently T models are made with help of Ifixit. From what I found worth attention for now is refubrished P14s AMD Gen 5 with 64GB and OLED screen for 1.1k USD. In general not too much choice for 16 inches at all for thinkpads...