Cheers Ben, thanks for watching. Yes to native when possible! Hey, used your trident maple parafilm bending trick on some seedlings this fall. Fingers crossed!
American Beech and Hornbeam are wonderful bonsai but generally as a group they do not like their roots disturbed a lot. Ive learned that all transplanting or repotting need to be precisely timed for best results. This should be done when the spring buds are swelling and the green of the leaves are visible but have not yet unfolded. It is at this point the tree is at max strength. I tend the tree 3-4 years in a larger box or pot allowing it to get acclimated to container culture before placing in a more restrictive bonsai pot. When transplanting I am always careful to remove only about 1/4 of the roots and to do it rapidly to minimize shock. Good luck!
What a nice specimen of Carpinus caroliniana. You should try growing a Ostrya virginiana and see how it compares to Carpinus. That would be an interesting topic.
Thanks for watching! Yes, a shame I couldn’t keep that trunk alive. There are many more on the property and I hope figure collections are successful! I am aware of the hop hornbeam and would love to find a suitable specimen… haven’t yet found one! They are close in habit and I love the little hop flowers.
The beech looks great. Im jealous. Its on my list. I collected a hornbeam this year and it just pushed a bud at the top were I cut it then again I have a couple branches lower down.. Mybe its just a little slow.
@@GreatLakesBonsai it seems like it is i won't be shore until the spring. Im not shore if I should repot it again in the spring to cut some of the big roots that I had to leave on.
The Hornbeam I collected last year was about the same size as yours and the exact same thing happened to me. It died back all the way down almost to the roots where it had a couple shoots already. This year I plan to put it back in the ground to see what might come of it in time. I also collected a few skinny ones and a couple that are 1.5" - 2" at the base and they survived just fine and am currently in the process of making a forest with them. Hopefully you can go back this year and try again with what you've learned. If so, I'm looking forward to it. 👍 Your collecting videos seem to get good views too.
Thanks for the encouraging words! Glad to hear your smaller collects are doing well. I’m definitely going to try it out again and I am totally on board with the forest idea - that’s actually my plan as well for spring if everything works out with timing!! Appreciate you watching and the feedback!
Always put them in a cheap dollar store black 40 gal garbage bag. they're thin enough to let some light in and keep the humidity around the trunk. don't use hefty ,to thick. take it out water it , put it back in the bag, close it up. in full sun. steve.
It’s called the root slayer - available locally and on Amazon as well. Nothing sharpened as I’ve only had it for a few years, it cuts through great! Highly recommend.
What a great trip that must have been. Too bad about the hornbeam though…that trunk would have made for a killer tree. At least it partly survived so you’ll have that as a memento. Maybe some crazy carving in the future?
@@GreatLakesBonsai still going strong, though seems to be infested with some sort of white fly from what I can tell. Doesn’t seem to be slowing it down luckily.
HI Total nube asking dumb questions. Can you Yamdori at any time/season or only spring.? Im also in Michigan when is best time ? Why not Fall also ?? thanks for any advice
I know folks who have tried in fall; it may work better for some species. If you watch my Larch video, fall collection for those worked better for me. Regardless, you'll need some extra winter protection whatever the species, if collecting in fall, since you are performing trauma to the root system and they will therefore not be able to prepare for winter as well. Spring seem to be the best time for deciduous since you perform the trauma and then are moving right into spring, with a full season of growth so that the tree can recover well. Deciduous = just as buds are swelling has given me a good success rate - about 8 out of 10. Thanks for watching and feel free to ping me on instagram (@greatlakesbonsai) with anything else - great to hear from a fellow michigander.
I grew up in MI but never heard of hornbeam, which I just learned is part of the birch family. Nice comparison with beech, a tree I always loved in W MI, including near Lake MI. I prune my large (60-120 foot) cedars and firs here in the Pacific NW, but so cool also working with nature on the concentrated yamadori level. Ignorant question: I wonder what would happen to your hornbeam if you pruned off the suckers with or without a lower cut on the trunk.
Yes Chad! Hornbeam are quite neat and understory trees. I still need to see those giant western red cedars! Thuja! I suspect that the suckers are all that remain of the energy in that trunk. So I believe there would be no new growth remaining. Will assess over winter on next steps! Thanks for watching! :)
I think it was not sealing that cut quick enough that doomed the tree - probably 4 hours from cutting it to when I got back home. Next time going to seal right away in the field. We shall see! Thanks for watching!
Hello I like your channel and I am from Virginia and I would like to know if it is not illegal to collect trees from the forests because I would like to collect myself
Hi Edwin! You should always get permission to collect trees. I suggest thinking of people in your network who own land - even an acre, or, just looking around their yard sometimes will yield a potential tree! Here in Michigan most state forest land does not allow trees to be removed - and for any park, you need to ask and often obtain a permit. So be sure that you get permission wherever you are looking before taking a tree out. You can call your local park ranger or DNR officer for public land, but I prefer to ask folks that I know if I can search their property. Hope this helps!
Exciting to see a Michigan bonsai enthusiast, especially with you yamadori collection from the wet woods in the southern part of the state!
Welcome back. Looking on the bright side, your friend owns the property so a spring 2022 yamadori outing is always an option. Keep growing. Thanks
Thanks Matt! Definitely going back for more.
Got to love root slayer
great video! i love beech and hornbeam. i have a copper beech bonsai
Thanks for watching! Copper beech are neat
Nice to see the Root Slayer shout out!
1:31- I remember those same kind of days! lol Good work!
Ah yes. Simpler times! Thanks for watching.
That looks like fun, love working with native material
Cheers Ben, thanks for watching. Yes to native when possible!
Hey, used your trident maple parafilm bending trick on some seedlings this fall. Fingers crossed!
Hadir mengikuti, Bagus subur2 bonsai 🌳nya mister, Menginspirasi, Sukses selalu 😀👍 salam dari INDONESIA mampir kopi☕☕ 👍
Terima kasih telah menonton! Saya suka kopi. Semua yang terbaik!
American Beech and Hornbeam are wonderful bonsai but generally as a group they do not like their roots disturbed a lot. Ive learned that all transplanting or repotting need to be precisely timed for best results. This should be done when the spring buds are swelling and the green of the leaves are visible but have not yet unfolded. It is at this point the tree is at max strength. I tend the tree 3-4 years in a larger box or pot allowing it to get acclimated to container culture before placing in a more restrictive bonsai pot. When transplanting I am always careful to remove only about 1/4 of the roots and to do it rapidly to minimize shock. Good luck!
Agreed! Thanks Richard, this is a good template to follow.
very good
What a nice specimen of Carpinus caroliniana. You should try growing a Ostrya virginiana and see how it compares to Carpinus. That would be an interesting topic.
Thanks for watching! Yes, a shame I couldn’t keep that trunk alive. There are many more on the property and I hope figure collections are successful! I am aware of the hop hornbeam and would love to find a suitable specimen… haven’t yet found one! They are close in habit and I love the little hop flowers.
The beech looks great. Im jealous. Its on my list. I collected a hornbeam this year and it just pushed a bud at the top were I cut it then again I have a couple branches lower down.. Mybe its just a little slow.
Sounds like it’s recovering! Just get it through this season, right? Thanks for watching
@@GreatLakesBonsai it seems like it is i won't be shore until the spring. Im not shore if I should repot it again in the spring to cut some of the big roots that I had to leave on.
I usually look for a low twin trunk ,then cut off the dominant side.
The Hornbeam I collected last year was about the same size as yours and the exact same thing happened to me. It died back all the way down almost to the roots where it had a couple shoots already. This year I plan to put it back in the ground to see what might come of it in time.
I also collected a few skinny ones and a couple that are 1.5" - 2" at the base and they survived just fine and am currently in the process of making a forest with them.
Hopefully you can go back this year and try again with what you've learned. If so, I'm looking forward to it. 👍
Your collecting videos seem to get good views too.
Thanks for the encouraging words! Glad to hear your smaller collects are doing well. I’m definitely going to try it out again and I am totally on board with the forest idea - that’s actually my plan as well for spring if everything works out with timing!! Appreciate you watching and the feedback!
Lol NM my previous comment about the bag. Lol I need to get with you.
Always put them in a cheap dollar store black 40 gal garbage bag. they're thin enough to let some light in and keep the humidity around the trunk. don't use hefty ,to thick. take it out water it , put it back in the bag, close it up. in full sun. steve.
Love it Steve! I do remove the bag for watering on occasion. I like your idea for the lighter weight bag, going to try this next time!
Where did you get your root flare shovel? Looks like a very useful tool for slicing through roots. Do you sharpen the blade?
It’s called the root slayer - available locally and on Amazon as well. Nothing sharpened as I’ve only had it for a few years, it cuts through great! Highly recommend.
What a great trip that must have been. Too bad about the hornbeam though…that trunk would have made for a killer tree. At least it partly survived so you’ll have that as a memento. Maybe some crazy carving in the future?
A memento might be all I get, but leaves room to experiment! How is your yardadori doing - still thriving?
@@GreatLakesBonsai still going strong, though seems to be infested with some sort of white fly from what I can tell. Doesn’t seem to be slowing it down luckily.
Glad to hear it!
HI Total nube asking dumb questions. Can you Yamdori at any time/season or only spring.? Im also in Michigan when is best time ? Why not Fall also ?? thanks for any advice
I know folks who have tried in fall; it may work better for some species. If you watch my Larch video, fall collection for those worked better for me. Regardless, you'll need some extra winter protection whatever the species, if collecting in fall, since you are performing trauma to the root system and they will therefore not be able to prepare for winter as well. Spring seem to be the best time for deciduous since you perform the trauma and then are moving right into spring, with a full season of growth so that the tree can recover well. Deciduous = just as buds are swelling has given me a good success rate - about 8 out of 10.
Thanks for watching and feel free to ping me on instagram (@greatlakesbonsai) with anything else - great to hear from a fellow michigander.
I like friend
I grew up in MI but never heard of hornbeam, which I just learned is part of the birch family. Nice comparison with beech, a tree I always loved in W MI, including near Lake MI.
I prune my large (60-120 foot) cedars and firs here in the Pacific NW, but so cool also working with nature on the concentrated yamadori level. Ignorant question: I wonder what would happen to your hornbeam if you pruned off the suckers with or without a lower cut on the trunk.
Yes Chad! Hornbeam are quite neat and understory trees.
I still need to see those giant western red cedars! Thuja!
I suspect that the suckers are all that remain of the energy in that trunk. So I believe there would be no new growth remaining. Will assess over winter on next steps!
Thanks for watching! :)
Is grafting a possibility with the Hornbeam?
Absolutely - they take well to grafts in my experience.
Sorry for the musclebeech...I thought they are really vigorous???
I think it was not sealing that cut quick enough that doomed the tree - probably 4 hours from cutting it to when I got back home. Next time going to seal right away in the field. We shall see! Thanks for watching!
Hello I like your channel and I am from Virginia and I would like to know if it is not illegal to collect trees from the forests because I would like to collect myself
Hi Edwin! You should always get permission to collect trees. I suggest thinking of people in your network who own land - even an acre, or, just looking around their yard sometimes will yield a potential tree! Here in Michigan most state forest land does not allow trees to be removed - and for any park, you need to ask and often obtain a permit. So be sure that you get permission wherever you are looking before taking a tree out. You can call your local park ranger or DNR officer for public land, but I prefer to ask folks that I know if I can search their property. Hope this helps!
If you can find a Forest that have cows roaming you Will find all kind of dwarf trees
Indeed! I also see deer doing some work on trees. Tough to find in my neck of the woods…