I just want to say thank you very much my friend!!! This is the video I have been searching for for months, I think I have the absolute best buyer anybody could possibly have!! With that being said I have never brought him anything separated before I get there I always have him separated with me and I just put stuff where he says to put it but now after watching your video I am going to separate what I think is low-grade mid-grade and peripheral high grade and how he takes it is going to be how good of a job I did but thank you brother!!!!!
Awesome, very happy to have been of assistance. I would caution that since there are definitive standards for board grading, your buyer may have some differences from what you saw here. But by taking the first effort to separate your boards you've made their job much easier and I'm sure they'll appreciate that.
Thanks for the information. I've been waiting for more on this series! It's like you were reading my mind during this video a few times, especially the ending. I was literally asking myself about peripheral boards as you brought it up 😅. Appreciate ya & the information as always
@Shark Scrapper oh I wasn't meaning you were taking too long or anything, lol. Just got excited when I watched your first one & said it was gonna be a series.
I have around 100kg of boards which I hv been hoarding coz I don't know how to grade them before taking them to the yard... This video has somewhat helped me to understand the basics of low grade n midgrade. Thank you for your content
I just went to Boardsort to see what they pay for low and mid grade boards. They pay the same for both low and mid grade boards 35¢ a pound. Guess I won't be sending any to them. I am on the West coast and it costs me about $1 a pound to ship. I will still be pulling anything that looks good off of those boards. Boardsort got a nice shipment from me 4 days ago. Should be getting a nice check from Chris pretty soon. I have one computer repair shop, in town, that gives me all their e-waste. They are glad to get it out of their lobby. Filled the back of my SUV today. Several computers and laptops in this load. Many hard drives too. I took a peak in one of the computers and they threw in big handfuls of RAM & CPUs. So scrappers give all your local repair shops a call and offer to haul off ALL e-waste NO CHARGE. Today I had to take a big 50 pound printer. But I can get rid of it for free.
That's a great way to get scrap. Two of my clients are PC/IT repair companies. Like you, shipping is a constraint on what I sell to Boardsort. My shipping is also similar cost, $1 to $0.75/lbs.
My local yards would take any and all boards as tin shred, but 30 minutes away, one yard buys circuit boards. I basically save up a pickup truck load. I separate all the low grade from the rest. Since low grade is basically breakage to them, I harvest transformers, aluminum, chips, etc. to get a higher price for those items, the rest is low grade with or without that. Mid/higher grade they want components left on. I can only cost effectively ship higher priced stuff to Boardsort, like ram, CPUs, HDD boards, CD rom boards, etc. Otherwise it would cost more to ship motherboards, even though I get a lower price for motherboards, mid grade and peripheral. The important thing is, I get my scrap for free, minus a little labor, time and gas. I’m sure people have similar situations. Shark sorts it all out well for his situation, but helps us all.😊
Wow, that is very interesting, that lot would all be low grade over here at my refiners! Except the 2 monitor boards. Love the intro and outro, very professional Sharky 👍
Since scrapyards want to pay the least possible, might as well harvest off the good bits! It’s all so subjective to them too. One time I bring a load and leave large components on (aluminum capacitors, heat sinks and transformers) and they say there’s “too much junk” and downgrade. Another time it was classified “too clean” since I took off the aluminum, transformers and maybe a chip or two off the motherboards, and they downgraded a little. 😑🤦♂️ I have to remember it’s all free scrap, but I still want to increase the value of my time.
Not sure what the local area yards pay for any boards, but have to wonder how much value can be plucked from low grade boards and some mid grades. Thanks for doing this series sharky, much appreciated.
Good question! Some people really get into depopulating boards for Al, Cu and any chips they can find. There's also some MLCC's and tantalums if you can find a buyer. But your question is a very good one, is there enough value to make it worth the effort. And that can only be answer by each scrapper and their situation.
Also I believe what you refer to as a flat pack on the last boards is considered an ic by boardsort unless they've changed. Love the video series concept btw... scrap strong!
You are correct, "flat packs" are technically IC's. Some scrappers like to differentiate flat packs as IC's with legs on all four sides vs "IC's" which have 6 or more legs on two sides. But they're all IC's.
@Shark Scrapper they call flat packs the green chips with the connections all underneath... I was confused for the longest time on your videos. Was like... did I miss something on the boardsort site.... lol. Just different terminology.
A "flatpack" is an IC that is surface mounted, meaning there are no legs that protrude through the circuit board, just little stubs holding on to the surface of the board. The traditional rectangle type of IC that most people think of is called a DIP (dual inline package). The IC with the connections all underneath is called a BGA (ball grid array). We buy flatpacks and DIPs both as our standard IC Chip on our price list and the BGA's are purchased with or without the gold corner tab per the list.
@Boardsort excellent breakdown. I was referring to the ic with 4 sides of legs opposed to 2. I believe sharky refers to the former as a flatpacks. I could be mistaken but at least it inspired your excellent post...
Great video that helped me. You said it's ok too harvest from the boards I was concerned in how to ship everything to boardsort. I have everything I took off the boards separated in containers. I was gonna send everything in one box. Just packed separately.
Glad the video was helpful. Here's a video I did on selling to boardsort that should be helpful in answering your question: ua-cam.com/video/rfeN5Xhnt5I/v-deo.html
Hello Josh, please reach out to Chris at boardsort before shipping your material. When I read the word "harvest" I have concerns. Hopefully you are speaking only of low and midgrade boards with respect to harvesting, and even with those, IC chips are the only item that you will find on those boards that has enough value to justify shipping. Let's make sure you have the right materials before you send anything. Harvesting rarely works out so we discourage our customers from doing it.
Ok thanks I've just bin watching shark scrapper and a cpl other ppl on UA-cam and just basically trying to figure out this e-waste stuff from what I've seen I will email Chris and send some pictures. Basically I've bin collecting these boards for almost a year and just started to mess with them. After I saw shark scrapper do a segment on it and board sort I figured it was time to start learning more.thanks
I usually use my Vise Grip to twist them off. With bigger ones, I run a chisel along two or three of the sides to cut the legs and pull them off. Sometimes I have to use the chisel and hammer to free them. Sometimes they break, no big deal.
I only have one question if a board has visible gold if any board has visible gold does that make it peripheral high grade and also how about the boards out of the hard drives they are brown on the underneath some of them but they are filled with a gold connection
The rule of thumb is "no visible gold in the low grade pile." So a board with visible gold could be mid-grade or better. Frequently they will be peripheral high, but that is more about the density of potential gold bearing chips than the visible gold. Any board off of a HDD is categorized as either "high grade" HDD board (non-SATA connector) or "low grade" HDD board (SATA connector).
Great question - No, not all IC's have gold but many do. It's difficult to see the gold in many of the IC's because the wires can be as thin, or thinner, than hair. But I've also seen some that were very obvious.
Great video. I have a few questions but the main one is, how much does a local scrapyard pay for the three categories? Is low grade shred price? We have nowhere to sell them here but if I were to buy boards, what sort of prices would I be safe to offer?
You're not going to like my answer. It depends. Some yards only pay shred for any type of board. My local yard is paying about $1.40/lbs for "high" but that can vary a lot. Low grade is around $0.10/lbs, so just a little better than shred. You need to know how you'll sell the material before you can decide what to pay for it. Sorry I can't be of more help on that.
@@sharkscrapper That's really all I was looking for. I hope to eventually get enough that I can make a run to boardsort or ship a load to ewaste Mike if he gets that stuff figured out. Until then I will probably just depop the low grades and store up the higher stuff. Even if I paid .10/lb for low grade, I would probably make that back on transformers and heat sinks.
But the question I have is it worth mailing mid grade boards to Boardsort taking shipping cost into account? Trying to figure whats worth mailing to them.
Instead of getting really technical, this dude has taken all the technical info, blended it in his head, and served it to us in layman terms. This video will help us start out in sorting our boards. At least the basics.
The problem with grading is there's no "source of truth" of what exactly is mid or low. It's heavily dependent on guidance, and each buyer's perspectives are different. That said, there's a strong general consensus. Thanks for highlighting that, it's common to see people new to scrap getting overly excited over low grade powerboards and shiet.
What a fantastic overview Sharky. Thanks for making things so much easier and clearer for everyone. I’m sure Chris loves it too!
That reminds me, I need to start listing Chris in the video description for his technical assistance 😂
Very good!
You should be among experts at Escrap World Champ , when we have one sometime
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I just want to say thank you very much my friend!!! This is the video I have been searching for for months, I think I have the absolute best buyer anybody could possibly have!! With that being said I have never brought him anything separated before I get there I always have him separated with me and I just put stuff where he says to put it but now after watching your video I am going to separate what I think is low-grade mid-grade and peripheral high grade and how he takes it is going to be how good of a job I did but thank you brother!!!!!
Awesome, very happy to have been of assistance. I would caution that since there are definitive standards for board grading, your buyer may have some differences from what you saw here. But by taking the first effort to separate your boards you've made their job much easier and I'm sure they'll appreciate that.
Thanks for the information. I've been waiting for more on this series! It's like you were reading my mind during this video a few times, especially the ending. I was literally asking myself about peripheral boards as you brought it up 😅. Appreciate ya & the information as always
Perfect! Sorry this took so long to get out. I wasn't happy with the first three versions 🤣
@Shark Scrapper oh I wasn't meaning you were taking too long or anything, lol. Just got excited when I watched your first one & said it was gonna be a series.
No worries - I felt I took too long 😂
Excellent this should help a lot of new scrappers six stars brother
Thanks Joseph, that's the goal.
sharky, you're the man. Thank you for all the knowledge you are bestowing upon us.
I'm glad these videos are helping.
This is great and I appreciate you tell us what board sort calls it .. 👊🏻
Happy to help man. Trust all is well with you?
I have around 100kg of boards which I hv been hoarding coz I don't know how to grade them before taking them to the yard...
This video has somewhat helped me to understand the basics of low grade n midgrade. Thank you for your content
My pleasure, I'm glad I was able to assist. There are more board ID videos in the playlist that will provide additional info.
I just went to Boardsort to see what they pay for low and mid grade boards. They pay the same for both low and mid grade boards 35¢ a pound. Guess I won't be sending any to them. I am on the West coast and it costs me about $1 a pound to ship. I will still be pulling anything that looks good off of those boards.
Boardsort got a nice shipment from me 4 days ago. Should be getting a nice check from Chris pretty soon.
I have one computer repair shop, in town, that gives me all their e-waste. They are glad to get it out of their lobby. Filled the back of my SUV today. Several computers and laptops in this load. Many hard drives too. I took a peak in one of the computers and they threw in big handfuls of RAM & CPUs. So scrappers give all your local repair shops a call and offer to haul off ALL e-waste NO CHARGE. Today I had to take a big 50 pound printer. But I can get rid of it for free.
That's a great way to get scrap. Two of my clients are PC/IT repair companies. Like you, shipping is a constraint on what I sell to Boardsort. My shipping is also similar cost, $1 to $0.75/lbs.
This was a very helpful video! Thank you for the way you have explained it. I feel more confident once I gather enough up for boardsort.
You got this Wes - glad I could help.
Thank you shark 🦈 great informational video!! Another one added to my fav list !!
Awesome, thank you
Very good video on teaching boards. Probably the best video I’ve seen on board sorting
Wow, thanks!
@@sharkscrapper No problem! Thank You for teaching about that and doing such a great job at it
I appreciate your time while you explain the topic very thoroughly. Nice job.
I appreciate that!
My local yards would take any and all boards as tin shred, but 30 minutes away, one yard buys circuit boards. I basically save up a pickup truck load. I separate all the low grade from the rest. Since low grade is basically breakage to them, I harvest transformers, aluminum, chips, etc. to get a higher price for those items, the rest is low grade with or without that. Mid/higher grade they want components left on. I can only cost effectively ship higher priced stuff to Boardsort, like ram, CPUs, HDD boards, CD rom boards, etc. Otherwise it would cost more to ship motherboards, even though I get a lower price for motherboards, mid grade and peripheral. The important thing is, I get my scrap for free, minus a little labor, time and gas. I’m sure people have similar situations. Shark sorts it all out well for his situation, but helps us all.😊
Great feed back Dr A. Thank you. Like you, I only ship higher value boards to Boardsort.
Wow, that is very interesting, that lot would all be low grade over here at my refiners! Except the 2 monitor boards. Love the intro and outro, very professional Sharky 👍
I had a lot of fun putting the intro/outro together.
@@sharkscrapper I bet, it was fab!!
Since scrapyards want to pay the least possible, might as well harvest off the good bits! It’s all so subjective to them too. One time I bring a load and leave large components on (aluminum capacitors, heat sinks and transformers) and they say there’s “too much junk” and downgrade. Another time it was classified “too clean” since I took off the aluminum, transformers and maybe a chip or two off the motherboards, and they downgraded a little. 😑🤦♂️
I have to remember it’s all free scrap, but I still want to increase the value of my time.
Thanks learned a lot cannot wait for the next one
Glad to hear it!
Hello sir , very awesome video I’m in Miami Fla into ewaste and I do pick some out ! Thank you again
Awesome! Thank you!
Another great video!! Thank you for doing this series, Shark!!
My pleasure!
@Shark Scrapper thank you for the share
I don't grab brown brittle boards when dumpster diving if it's not green it's not a grabber
This clears up a lot of questions I’ve had thank you again Shark Scrapper!
My pleasure Bush Dog
Not sure what the local area yards pay for any boards, but have to wonder how much value can be plucked from low grade boards and some mid grades. Thanks for doing this series sharky, much appreciated.
Good question! Some people really get into depopulating boards for Al, Cu and any chips they can find. There's also some MLCC's and tantalums if you can find a buyer. But your question is a very good one, is there enough value to make it worth the effort. And that can only be answer by each scrapper and their situation.
interesting insight into the board grade types mate
*big like👍Au👀totally viewed*
Many thanks
Great vid very useful
Glad it helped
Also I believe what you refer to as a flat pack on the last boards is considered an ic by boardsort unless they've changed. Love the video series concept btw... scrap strong!
You are correct, "flat packs" are technically IC's. Some scrappers like to differentiate flat packs as IC's with legs on all four sides vs "IC's" which have 6 or more legs on two sides. But they're all IC's.
@Shark Scrapper they call flat packs the green chips with the connections all underneath... I was confused for the longest time on your videos. Was like... did I miss something on the boardsort site.... lol. Just different terminology.
A "flatpack" is an IC that is surface mounted, meaning there are no legs that protrude through the circuit board, just little stubs holding on to the surface of the board. The traditional rectangle type of IC that most people think of is called a DIP (dual inline package). The IC with the connections all underneath is called a BGA (ball grid array). We buy flatpacks and DIPs both as our standard IC Chip on our price list and the BGA's are purchased with or without the gold corner tab per the list.
@Boardsort excellent breakdown. I was referring to the ic with 4 sides of legs opposed to 2. I believe sharky refers to the former as a flatpacks. I could be mistaken but at least it inspired your excellent post...
Dang terminology differences. I’m guilty of using terminology I learned a long time ago from someone not as detailed as Chris 😂
Great video that helped me. You said it's ok too harvest from the boards I was concerned in how to ship everything to boardsort. I have everything I took off the boards separated in containers. I was gonna send everything in one box. Just packed separately.
Glad the video was helpful. Here's a video I did on selling to boardsort that should be helpful in answering your question: ua-cam.com/video/rfeN5Xhnt5I/v-deo.html
Hello Josh, please reach out to Chris at boardsort before shipping your material. When I read the word "harvest" I have concerns. Hopefully you are speaking only of low and midgrade boards with respect to harvesting, and even with those, IC chips are the only item that you will find on those boards that has enough value to justify shipping. Let's make sure you have the right materials before you send anything. Harvesting rarely works out so we discourage our customers from doing it.
Spot on Chris. Chris@boardsort.com
Ok thanks I've just bin watching shark scrapper and a cpl other ppl on UA-cam and just basically trying to figure out this e-waste stuff from what I've seen I will email Chris and send some pictures. Basically I've bin collecting these boards for almost a year and just started to mess with them. After I saw shark scrapper do a segment on it and board sort I figured it was time to start learning more.thanks
Great info!. Helped me alot till we got to the visible gold..... pins in the connectors don't count?
We'll discuss that in the peripheral installment.
Thank you!!!! So how do you get IC and flat packs off without breaking them?
I usually use my Vise Grip to twist them off. With bigger ones, I run a chisel along two or three of the sides to cut the legs and pull them off. Sometimes I have to use the chisel and hammer to free them. Sometimes they break, no big deal.
I only have one question if a board has visible gold if any board has visible gold does that make it peripheral high grade and also how about the boards out of the hard drives they are brown on the underneath some of them but they are filled with a gold connection
The rule of thumb is "no visible gold in the low grade pile." So a board with visible gold could be mid-grade or better. Frequently they will be peripheral high, but that is more about the density of potential gold bearing chips than the visible gold. Any board off of a HDD is categorized as either "high grade" HDD board (non-SATA connector) or "low grade" HDD board (SATA connector).
Do all ic’s really have gold? I’ve broken a million apart and only see copper?
Great question - No, not all IC's have gold but many do. It's difficult to see the gold in many of the IC's because the wires can be as thin, or thinner, than hair. But I've also seen some that were very obvious.
Great video. I have a few questions but the main one is, how much does a local scrapyard pay for the three categories? Is low grade shred price? We have nowhere to sell them here but if I were to buy boards, what sort of prices would I be safe to offer?
You're not going to like my answer. It depends. Some yards only pay shred for any type of board. My local yard is paying about $1.40/lbs for "high" but that can vary a lot. Low grade is around $0.10/lbs, so just a little better than shred. You need to know how you'll sell the material before you can decide what to pay for it. Sorry I can't be of more help on that.
@@sharkscrapper That's really all I was looking for. I hope to eventually get enough that I can make a run to boardsort or ship a load to ewaste Mike if he gets that stuff figured out. Until then I will probably just depop the low grades and store up the higher stuff. Even if I paid .10/lb for low grade, I would probably make that back on transformers and heat sinks.
But the question I have is it worth mailing mid grade boards to Boardsort taking shipping cost into account? Trying to figure whats worth mailing to them.
For me, no. Mailing costs for me are between $0.75 and $1 per pound. But that will be different depending on your location.
Boardsort has been paying same price for low or mid grade for some time now...😁 a decent price I might add
agreed
Old school stuff can have tantalum capacitors that are worth something.
Absolutely - if you can find a buyer.
nice
Thanks
I think Boardsort should throw them all together. Both the same price. Tell your boy that.
The price is a coincidence. We still have to send them out separated. If copper were to drop the price could separate again.
I'm glad you saw and responded Chris. Your comment should help clear it up.
It’s The hardest thing about scrapping
It can be a little confusing. But it comes with experience.
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I don't understand this at all.
🤣 watch it a few more times, it'll sink in 😝
Instead of getting really technical, this dude has taken all the technical info, blended it in his head, and served it to us in layman terms.
This video will help us start out in sorting our boards. At least the basics.
The problem with grading is there's no "source of truth" of what exactly is mid or low. It's heavily dependent on guidance, and each buyer's perspectives are different. That said, there's a strong general consensus. Thanks for highlighting that, it's common to see people new to scrap getting overly excited over low grade powerboards and shiet.
Very true Dixon, it's not like you can go to a tech-manual and look it up.