21:00 I once had a customer toss a $10 Dunkin card in to his box of scrap because he thought he did such a poor job sorting. Turns out he did a fine job and I paid him for the scrap and for the coffee. Lol!
I have to say, you make it a little easier for all of us with these types of videos. Great job of instructing. Gives everyone a point of reference when questions arise. Thanks for everything you do for the scrapping community.
THIS is the video I have been waiting for. You explain things so very well!!! Going to the top of my Informational playlist for future (and often) reference. Thank you Professor Shark!! 🦈 Now I got a bunch of boards to re-evaluate!! 😂
This video was a HUGE help. I've got boards from all sorts of things and I was wondering how to grade them. This simple breakdown was exactly what I needed. Thank you and I think Board Sort is going to thank you for helping me not send them "soup".
Thank you so much ! Love your Channel & the community benefits so much from people like you making concise, focused, and informative videos. The journey to your channel has been too long in the making so I’m upvoting every chance I get. Sifting through so many videos with titles like - “I FIND SO MUCH GOLD from old computers FREE MONEY so easy ASMR” that are 100 minutes long and involve only close shots from high tech cameras inside whst looks like a professional chemistry lab or industrial milling operation with no further explanations…….everybody has their own cup of team but come on…😂. Appreciate you
Thank you Kar - great to have you here. I understand your frustration. While those high tech vids can be interesting, they don't usually provide the answers most folks are looking for. Your feedback is very important to me as I continue this journey, thank you.
Generally speaking it is not necessary. Those caps tend to small and light weight. However, if you do see a big chunky one it wouldn't hurt to remove it.
Very good and I agree with your assessment. I have quite a few DEC boards with high density of ICs but not sure how to grade them. Do you know of any way to determine by number of ICs or date ? Or anyone who specializes in digital equipment items.
I wish there was a magic formula that would make this so much easier. I've been researching this for a long time and I've found no data base or definitive guide - frustrating. I'm happy to take a look at some pics of your boards to help out. You can also pics to the Boardsort forum and ask. Some very smart folks there.
Appreciate the info, ever do a cost analysis of removing components to upgrade to high peripheral vs low? I know it will depends on the board and the price is at least 2x difference but wouldn't the weight loss would be more than 50%
I've not been able to do a real cost comparison because it is too dependent on the type of board. But here's a link to a video I did with Chris at BOARDSORT.COM where we talk about this: ua-cam.com/video/jwC_cCaTm0Q/v-deo.html
really newbie question here. I have been watching your channel and think this might be a cool hobby to get into. How much stuff do you get that is not saleable or able to recycle? How do you dispose of it?
A great question Patrick and I'm afraid the answer is, "it depends." So much depends on what you're going to scrap and what yards will buy in your area or if you're within reasonable shipping distance to Boardsort.com. For example - most PC's have a lot of plastic on and in them. If your yard requires the plastic be removed from the metal shell you'll have a lot of plastic to throw away. Fortunately, most yards will take the PC shells with the plastic on. If you strip insulated copper wire you'll end up with the plastic insultation that needs to go in the trash. Most motherboards have a small button cell batter, the CMOS battery, that needs to be removed. Most places will NOT take these in recycle and should not go in the house hold waste. I take mine to the county transfer station for handling. I'd say by far the greatest amount of trash you will generate is all the plastic that makes up the bodies of most electronics these days.
@10:35 the problem is that boordsort frowns on removing items from boards when I have done this in the past they emailed me and told me they automatically downgraded my board to low grade when I did the same thing you did so my question is how did yours get upgraded to high grade?
That is a very good question and source of confusion. It all depends on the original board configuration and what one removes. In some cases removing the low grade, or junk, part of a board can cause the remain part to be upgraded. But one must have a very good understanding of where to draw that line. Most times when people remove components they are removing the ones that add value and therefore down grade the boards.
Question, at 11:00 you depopulate the heat sinks, transformers why not sawzall around the right hand I.C. cut the board off and that would remove the capacitors? Why not break high populated ic/pins areas off, sell them aS perhifial hi grade and the capacitor chunks as mid grade?18:33 is full of pins and ic's, you just said that was high grade? Why not depopulate the junk off and make it all i.c.'s and pins?(Hi grade?)
I'm responding from a hotel room after having evacuated the Asheville area due to TS Helene so unable to provide detailed response to each of your time stamped questions. The question of depopulating or cutting sections of boards to upgrade value is a very good one with lots of considerations. Time is one factor. Should you spend time on trying to squeeze more value from peripheral boards or focus on other more high value inventory? There's also the question of weight. The section of board with the greatest density of IC's and chips usually weighs very little after being cut away. And usually what's remaining is just low grade. Who and how you can sell the material is also important. After you do the cutting or depopulating, do you still have a buyer for the material? Finally, does that work fit your business model. For hobby scrappers/recyclers this is not a consideration but as a business sometimes we make decisions to get less value on somethings to optimize the time we spend on other higher value activities. Sorry I'm not in a position to provide specifics to this video for you but hope this rambling explanation helps.
I believe Aluminum Electrolytic capacitors on the PCBs worth clarification. Any recycling of it in the States? From point of view of a true scrapper, I see about 10-15% nice 6061 aluminum when you dissasmble capacitors with some tools. it takes time. for now I put them to trash. Just curious if any recyclers accept them sorted separately at any rate, maybe at price of a shred? 😂
I've not found anyone here that takes caps as a separate item. I'm sure that the board processors are sorting them after the boards have been shredded. There are some very clever ways to use eddy currents to remove Al from a shred stream. As you commented, it takes some extra time to get the Al from them, so I just leave them on the boards and let the big processors do it.
Thanks Shark :calculus and trig was easier .Hey Chris if you read this could keep an eye on my car red Vue at the train station .Shark the weather is awesome 73 sunny and clear here in Sterling Va. ten mim from Dulles Airport come on up .
I really want to sell my stuff to boardsort but I’m in Canada. I know they don’t accept international shipments. Next time I visit the U.S. I would like bring them with me and mail them from Buffalo, but I have no idea about import fees, or if there is even any taking stuff across the border. Maybe shark scrapper knows?
Sorry I have no experience shipping or moving this material across the US/Canada boarder. What I do know is that it is tough because ewaste is classified as "hazardous waste" so it requires extra paperwork and fees. Good luck
I have no clue on what you're all saying I'm just learning I feel very dumb at this I have no idea I was throwing them away I was throwing away and didn't think they were worth anything so not even a I still have no ideas I'm sorry I still don't have no ideas what way to turn with we don't have a place up here live in South Dakota parts order nothing up here so and far as I know nobody buys him up here that I found
Jeff - hopefully this series I'm putting together will help you at least understand what you have. Can't help with not having a place to sell other than to suggest you see what it would cost to ship to Boardsort.com.
@@sharkscrapper I don't even know how to ship them I've never shipped nothing like that so I don't know if you got to have bubble wrap around them or what it needs or what it takes that's why I said I'm just at a complete loss on the whole samir of I'm sorry
@@jeffstoll986 shark scrapper has excellent packing videos and i took his advice to set up an account with Pirate Ship and have successfully used it to print shipping labels at home, much easier than it all seems at first
If you want to refresh your understanding of low and mid-grade boards follow this link: ua-cam.com/video/yLenk66kB_Y/v-deo.html
Thanks bud! These 2 helped me immensely!
You're welcome. Happy I was of assistance.
Thank you for bringing my anxiety level down! I stress out about so many things.
Happy to help Joe. We all have plenty we can stress over, circuit boards should NOT be one of them.
21:00 I once had a customer toss a $10 Dunkin card in to his box of scrap because he thought he did such a poor job sorting. Turns out he did a fine job and I paid him for the scrap and for the coffee. Lol!
🤣 now why haven’t I thought of that 😂
I have to say, you make it a little easier for all of us with these types of videos. Great job of instructing. Gives everyone a point of reference when questions arise. Thanks for everything you do for the scrapping community.
My pleasure, thank you.
THIS is the video I have been waiting for. You explain things so very well!!! Going to the top of my Informational playlist for future (and often) reference. Thank you Professor Shark!! 🦈 Now I got a bunch of boards to re-evaluate!! 😂
You're very welcome Roger. Glad you found this useful.
This video was a HUGE help. I've got boards from all sorts of things and I was wondering how to grade them. This simple breakdown was exactly what I needed. Thank you and I think Board Sort is going to thank you for helping me not send them "soup".
Great to hear and glad I was able to help you.
Just Circuit boards. LOL keep up the good educational vlogs my friend.
Will do my friend.
Thank you so much ! Love your Channel & the community benefits so much from people like you making concise, focused, and informative videos. The journey to your channel has been too long in the making so I’m upvoting every chance I get. Sifting through so many videos with titles like - “I FIND SO MUCH GOLD from old computers FREE MONEY so easy ASMR” that are 100 minutes long and involve only close shots from high tech cameras inside whst looks like a professional chemistry lab or industrial milling operation with no further explanations…….everybody has their own cup of team but come on…😂. Appreciate you
Thank you Kar - great to have you here. I understand your frustration. While those high tech vids can be interesting, they don't usually provide the answers most folks are looking for. Your feedback is very important to me as I continue this journey, thank you.
@@sharkscrapper thank you kindly!! Cheers from Wisconsin!
Thank you again for this awesome explanation about different types of peripheral boards! So much knowledge in one short video! CheeRs Shark 🦈
My pleasure Bush Dog - glad you liked it.
@@sharkscrapper I always enjoy your videos and treasure your knowledge! Thank you! 🦈♻️🤘🏻
@@BushDogScrapper You have no idea how much I appreciate that.
Thank you sharkey this is very helpful for lots of people I even found it informative. Thank you for sharing this six stars brother
You're welcome Joseph. If I've helped at least one person, I've been successful.
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cool information my friend board identity looks a bit of a minefield
*always a full view🤓Au💯left a like👍*
The good news that mistakes in board identification doesn't lead to explosions 🤣
Verdy nice 👌
Thank you
Awesome video shark.... ❤❤❤
Thank you Lee
Boy this helped me out a lot thinks shark
You're welcome John.
@@sharkscrapper think you so much I just got a bunch of Cisco stuff and computers and this helped me a bunch you are the best
@@johnspargrove4816 Sweet! CISCO is almost always good stuff.
@@sharkscrapper yes there is a lot of gold pins and very nice looking boards for shore thinks for all your help sir
Great video
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Hello Floramae
Great video. Question about removing other components should you also remove the capacitors? Keep up the great work!
Generally speaking it is not necessary. Those caps tend to small and light weight. However, if you do see a big chunky one it wouldn't hurt to remove it.
Very good and I agree with your assessment. I have quite a few DEC boards with high density of ICs but not sure how to grade them. Do you know of any way to determine by number of ICs or date ? Or anyone who specializes in digital equipment items.
I wish there was a magic formula that would make this so much easier. I've been researching this for a long time and I've found no data base or definitive guide - frustrating. I'm happy to take a look at some pics of your boards to help out. You can also pics to the Boardsort forum and ask. Some very smart folks there.
Hey. In Europe there is a grade for LCD strips, and it is priced 7.30euro/kg, just bit worse than older motherboards.
thanks for a review
Very interesting Simon. Thank you for sharing that.
Appreciate the info, ever do a cost analysis of removing components to upgrade to high peripheral vs low? I know it will depends on the board and the price is at least 2x difference but wouldn't the weight loss would be more than 50%
I've not been able to do a real cost comparison because it is too dependent on the type of board. But here's a link to a video I did with Chris at BOARDSORT.COM where we talk about this: ua-cam.com/video/jwC_cCaTm0Q/v-deo.html
I think boardsort should sponsor you if they are not already If you could get an affiliate link from them I would use it
🤣 I'll talk to Chris about sponsorship.
really newbie question here. I have been watching your channel and think this might be a cool hobby to get into. How much stuff do you get that is not saleable or able to recycle? How do you dispose of it?
A great question Patrick and I'm afraid the answer is, "it depends." So much depends on what you're going to scrap and what yards will buy in your area or if you're within reasonable shipping distance to Boardsort.com. For example - most PC's have a lot of plastic on and in them. If your yard requires the plastic be removed from the metal shell you'll have a lot of plastic to throw away. Fortunately, most yards will take the PC shells with the plastic on. If you strip insulated copper wire you'll end up with the plastic insultation that needs to go in the trash. Most motherboards have a small button cell batter, the CMOS battery, that needs to be removed. Most places will NOT take these in recycle and should not go in the house hold waste. I take mine to the county transfer station for handling. I'd say by far the greatest amount of trash you will generate is all the plastic that makes up the bodies of most electronics these days.
@10:35 the problem is that boordsort frowns on removing items from boards when I have done this in the past they emailed me and told me they automatically downgraded my board to low grade when I did the same thing you did so my question is how did yours get upgraded to high grade?
That is a very good question and source of confusion. It all depends on the original board configuration and what one removes. In some cases removing the low grade, or junk, part of a board can cause the remain part to be upgraded. But one must have a very good understanding of where to draw that line. Most times when people remove components they are removing the ones that add value and therefore down grade the boards.
@@sharkscrapper that makes sense thanks for the response.
Question, at 11:00 you depopulate the heat sinks, transformers why not sawzall around the right hand I.C. cut the board off and that would remove the capacitors? Why not break high populated ic/pins areas off, sell them aS perhifial hi grade and the capacitor chunks as mid grade?18:33 is full of pins and ic's, you just said that was high grade? Why not depopulate the junk off and make it all i.c.'s and pins?(Hi grade?)
I'm responding from a hotel room after having evacuated the Asheville area due to TS Helene so unable to provide detailed response to each of your time stamped questions. The question of depopulating or cutting sections of boards to upgrade value is a very good one with lots of considerations. Time is one factor. Should you spend time on trying to squeeze more value from peripheral boards or focus on other more high value inventory? There's also the question of weight. The section of board with the greatest density of IC's and chips usually weighs very little after being cut away. And usually what's remaining is just low grade. Who and how you can sell the material is also important. After you do the cutting or depopulating, do you still have a buyer for the material? Finally, does that work fit your business model. For hobby scrappers/recyclers this is not a consideration but as a business sometimes we make decisions to get less value on somethings to optimize the time we spend on other higher value activities. Sorry I'm not in a position to provide specifics to this video for you but hope this rambling explanation helps.
I believe Aluminum Electrolytic capacitors on the PCBs worth clarification.
Any recycling of it in the States?
From point of view of a true scrapper, I see about 10-15% nice 6061 aluminum when you dissasmble capacitors with some tools. it takes time.
for now I put them to trash.
Just curious if any recyclers accept them sorted separately at any rate, maybe at price of a shred? 😂
I've not found anyone here that takes caps as a separate item. I'm sure that the board processors are sorting them after the boards have been shredded. There are some very clever ways to use eddy currents to remove Al from a shred stream. As you commented, it takes some extra time to get the Al from them, so I just leave them on the boards and let the big processors do it.
Thanks Shark :calculus and trig was easier .Hey Chris if you read this could keep an eye on my car red Vue at the train station .Shark the weather is awesome 73 sunny and clear here in Sterling Va. ten mim from Dulles Airport come on up .
Enjoy the ride bud
I really want to sell my stuff to boardsort but I’m in Canada. I know they don’t accept international shipments. Next time I visit the U.S. I would like bring them with me and mail them from Buffalo, but I have no idea about import fees, or if there is even any taking stuff across the border. Maybe shark scrapper knows?
Sorry I have no experience shipping or moving this material across the US/Canada boarder. What I do know is that it is tough because ewaste is classified as "hazardous waste" so it requires extra paperwork and fees. Good luck
The trickiest 2 catagories
I agree, very tricky.
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I believe ALL aluminum electrolytic capacitors are to be removed,
Just to be clear - BOARDSORT.COM does not require that. However, if you chose to do that, go for it.
I have no clue on what you're all saying I'm just learning I feel very dumb at this I have no idea I was throwing them away I was throwing away and didn't think they were worth anything so not even a I still have no ideas I'm sorry I still don't have no ideas what way to turn with we don't have a place up here live in South Dakota parts order nothing up here so and far as I know nobody buys him up here that I found
Jeff - hopefully this series I'm putting together will help you at least understand what you have. Can't help with not having a place to sell other than to suggest you see what it would cost to ship to Boardsort.com.
@@sharkscrapper I don't even know how to ship them I've never shipped nothing like that so I don't know if you got to have bubble wrap around them or what it needs or what it takes that's why I said I'm just at a complete loss on the whole samir of I'm sorry
@@jeffstoll986 shark scrapper has excellent packing videos and i took his advice to set up an account with Pirate Ship and have successfully used it to print shipping labels at home, much easier than it all seems at first
thank you, I'm glad the video was helpful.
I’m learning too watching all videos✌️