Could not agree more. I am English, but I lived in Wales for five years. ( had a great time, thanks!) It didn't take me long to realise that once you get the system down, Welsh is not difficult to pronounce at all. Definitely more logical than English with all its exceptions. All it needs is a bit of effort ( really, just a bit ) and the rest follows. Replacing local names with spurious English ones seems to make no sense at all.
Hi Christopher, Likewise, coming from the opposite side of this island and spending a little over six years in Wales between late 2011 and early 2018, I couldn't agree more. This may sound daft, but it still jars with my expectations hearing the automated lift/elevator announcements just in English.
I'm Welsh and living in Finland and learning Finnish. I can see why Tolkien was enamored with both Welsh and Finnish. Once my finnish language skills are good enough to gain Finnish citizenship, I will focus on learning Welsh, the beautiful language of my land. I've unfortunately forgotten most of the Welsh that I learned in school. I'm going to make so much more of an effort to use Welsh placenames from here on out!
@@jontalbot1 as cool as both those languages are, I feel that it would be a crime for me not to try to relearn what should be my mother tongue. I do speak some Chinese and Spanish. So I'll have reached the computing capacity for my little tumbleweed brain once I've mastered Finnish,and Welsh to good enough levels 😅
I am a native English speaker and Welsh is one of the most beautiful languages I have ever heard. There is so much about Wales to appreciate. I wish I were younger bc Wales would be on my bucket list. Don't let go of your culture in exchange for the shallow, trendy words & names to please tourists. If people can't pronounce these words - I can't - too bad.
I am a brazilian guy passionate about Cymru and Cymraeg. One of the most fascinating and beautiful stories among any other nation. A rich and living heritage that needs to be held, must be saved. Love you guys, keep your story and your beautiful language with all the pride you have. Every place in your land is a bless. Greetings from Brazil
The Welsh language has a fascinating and romantic back story. Keep fighting for your cultural history. I am an American with no Welsh heritage, but I have seen what has happened to our Native American cultures, and it saddens me.
I'm learning Welsh and I ended up actually looking at why local places have their names. Every name tells a story. It's so interesting, even names for plants in Welsh some have stories connected to them. learning a new language really does open another door and another world. Let's not lose it. Dysgu cymru :)
Im definitely going to start iv wanted to but life keeps on getting in the way stopped learning when I was about 8 years old and totally regret it French and German where the two that welsh schools seem to favour in the 90s regret that I did not have this drive to learn then
How are u learning it, I really want to cause I’m a duel citizen of the United Kingdom and United States. I’m welsh and I want to learn my language but don’t know how
Written in English well done you learn our language.I see you are resisting it , racial comment anti English no one stopping them use there language .....
@@jerrysummers5971 What kind of weed have you smoked lately? My comment was not anti-anyone. I just like to see how ancient languages are still spoken despite the overbearing presence of the dominant language. And since it is English, I cannot say Portuguese. Would have been that the dominant language I'd have said so, or German or Chinese. Or maybe it is the Euro Cup final that still burns...
@@lucmanzoni6265 It's good the Welsh try and keep their place names language and traditions. You were condescending about the English just a put down really,silly response to say I smoke drugs never have.Dont judge ppl by your low standards .As far as the football Italy won on penalties good luck to them it just a game ,you seem to have a problem with it 😉
@@jerrysummers5971 Hey lad, it seems you don't follow the narrative here... I was not condescending about English per se, as I've already explained above. About drugs, it was just hyperbole, I don't even know who you are... Finally, I don't see how could I possibly have a problem winning the Euro Cup, quite the opposite. And England played well, so good for them, too: I consider second-place to be a very good achievement as well.
@@lucmanzoni6265 I know you are Italian probably live in England 🤔 Obviously you are glad Italy won the cup; on penalties better managed team won on the night well done 👍
Here in Australia, there is a movement in the opposite direction, where indigenous names of geographical features are being restored and are either replacing English ones, or both names are being used side by side. As someone who is half Welsh and spent his first 6 years in Swansea, I can make a reasonable go of pronouncing Welsh place names. I sometimes trip up on which way to pronounce Y, but I think that I've got the rules right now.
He’s so right. It would be such a shame to have any country littered with fake, phoney names when beautiful ones already exist. Keep the Welsh names, you don’t need the ‘translations’ for those who can’t be bothered. It’s lazy to insist on English pseudonames and if they are introduced almost everyone will rely on the lowest common denominator to communicate because it’s easier. But express your country’s history, culture, topography, people and language(s) in your beautiful place names and we’ll learn them
That is so disrespectful. I was born in Brazil, I am learning Welsh and love Welsh place names. They make so much sense and adds a great feel to the place. Please, anglophones, be sensible. You have so much to gain and learn.
We used to go on family holidays to Wales when I was very young (starting when I was about 5 or 6 I think) and I loved it. We returned to the same place a number of times and I can still remember exactly how to pronounce it, despite being so young at the time. No idea on the spelling but I now feel inspired to try and find out so I can learn the story behind it! Please keep using the real names. Don't lose your beautiful language or the history of your homeland.
I am the American granddaughter of a Welshman, and proud to be so. I always wanted to learn Welsh. Do NOT give up the Welsh names. Help us learn to pronounce it.
Just north of the town of Usk in Monmouthshire, near the Usk/Abergavenny road, property developers established a small, up-market, rural housing development, which is overlooked by a wooded hill. At the entrance to this community, the newly installed, perhaps aspirational, middle class residents placed a sign. It said, "Woody Grove, formerly known as Coed yr Allt" Welsh history wiped out by snobbery and ignorance.
@@colleendavis4225 We didn't try to rob you of anything. We dragged you along with us through an industrial revolution and YOU stopped speaking your own language as English became the language of trade and commerce. Easy to blame the English for everything, isn't it, but without us you'd still be running around in animal skins chucking spears at things.
@@mrscreamer379 that really is a stupid thing to say. England never dragged Wales into anything that brought much if any benefit, just the opposite. As to the decline of the Welsh language you can put that down to English dominance and immigration during the Industrial revolution. There are many instances of laws aimed at suppressing the language and Welshness in general, starting after the conquest of Edward 1 but continuing down the centuries. The fact that the Welsh language has survived at all is amazing considering the political and economic power of England. This is not an anti English polemic, it is just fact. I very much doubt that you know anything about the history of Wales.
Yeah, I thought that sounded… I don’t know, not poetic, maybe? The story behind the name is a beautiful tradition vs naming something because it looks like another place.
Walkers’ Wood is also a poem that i had to study at TGAU Cymraeg, whilst reading the poem tells the story of a son and his grandfather. His grandfather explained why it was called Walkers’ Wood and how it used to be Coed Llugwy. Hearing these worts of things just fills me with emotion and national pride for our language, to take a rubber to hunderds upon hunderds of year of history would be o so tradgic and just be an insult to all the poeple in our history that have faught fo us to be able to speak Cymraeg. Dw i mor balch o’n hiaith a mor browd y fedrai ei siarad hi.
There's no bloody way should any compromise what so ever be given regarding anything Welsh.. this is our country our language our heritage...this is Wales.. why is this being allowed to happen? This isn't eng.. what's happening in eng with the self loathing has no place in Wales
As Australian Aboriginal i hope the Welsh remember that even though the English conquered and claimed the land as theirs. They have never fully won while you still maintain that link to your past. Conquerors know this. That's why just as with the Aboriginals, they have worked so hard to destroy the links to your past, My great great Grandfather was Welsh. And he told my father how if he was caught talking Welsh at school, he would get a canned by the teachers. The same things my Aboriginal grand parents went through. It will be a complete shame if the modern Welshman was to give up that last link because a few entitled foreigners had trouble with a few place names.
I'm English but I definitely support the keeping of the original Welsh names anywhere in Wales because replacing them with English names that have absolutely no link to the history of the Welsh names just mean the culture and history of the area just gets deleted and Welsh just slowly loses prominence as a language in the area. If places like Caernarfon, Conwy and Llanelli all reversed the attempted anglicisation of their names (from Caernarvon, Conway and Llanelly respectively), there is no reason why the Welsh names for other places can't be retained or even the meaningless English names being removed entirely from them. I do believe in any case it is hypocritical to expect people to get names like Derby, Leicester, Norwich and Worcester in England correct yet disregard names outside England in other parts of the UK (whether it be Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland) just because they are hard to pronounce or look weird. Even if names are hard to pronounce, it is still worth attempting them anyway even if the attempt is not accurate to the Welsh pronunciation because at least when keeping the original name, the history is still kept along with the culture, which is one reason why over the last two years, I made an effort to improve my pronunciation of Welsh place names so that they match the Welsh pronunciation as much as possible.
I've only in the last few years begun to really connect with my Welsh heritage, I was born and raised in Wales and it's only when I moved away did I start to realise what I left behind. So I started to learn Welsh and dive into our folklore and ancient history, it's been amazing learning so much and I feel closer to the home I miss so much. I was never one for patriotism but seeing things like this do make me angry, the blatant laziness and arrogance of just erasing something because you have trouble saying it makes my blood boil. You don't have to say it if you can't but don't try to change it. Like the gentleman said, try, give it a go, make a mess of it. There's so much history in a name, no matter where you go.
I agree totally with this. There are historical houses near me that have had there names changed by developers. If you wanted to put UPVC windows and paint the house purple you'd be stopped. Changing the name that means something and relates to the landscape isn't protected. It should be.
sambo still learning! Only the very basic conversation stuff so far, just practicing a little on Duolingo each day, I find watching Welsh programs (Hansh on UA-cam is good for it) helps too, even if I can't understand most of it, parroting the sounds helps with pronounciation and flow, pob lwc on your journey! I've heard the 'Say Something in Welsh' is really good too!
I'm the same got to an age where u regret that u didn't get to learn welsh properly Im probably at the level of a five year old because I stopped when I went to a comprehensive school in the early 90s u where told its a pointless language in school and best to learn French of German. I totally regret that welsh was not mandatory it should be my teachers where mostly old English that where constantly say u are saying things wrong
My heritage is Czech. Under the Habsburg Austrian Empire the Czech language was almost wiped out under German hegemony. Only thanks to the vigorous efforts of a small group of patriots do We have a Country & language today. Keep up your good work preserving Welsh
By the end of the 16th century Czech culture was predominantly "protestant" or at least separated from the Catholic Church. It was the Jesuit - inspired Catholicism of the Austrian-German Emperor in whose territory the Czech lands lay that not only virtually wiped out the Czech language but also the specifically Czech forms of Christianity.
@@giovanniacuto2688 Thank you Giovanni, That was a very accurate explanation of the history of that period. Earlier the reformer Jan Hus was tricked by German bishops with an offer of safe passage to a conference to discuss his proposed reforms & was killed. After that his followers cut themselves off from the Roman church & fighting began. As you said by the 16th century things came to a head & the Czechs were overwhelmed.
@@dougr.2245 After the Catholic "reconquest" small groups of radical Hussites, Bohemian Brethren, survived clandestinely particularly in Moravia. The descendants of one of these groups went into exile in neighbouring Saxony where they were given land by a Lutheran nobleman. They became known as the Moravian Brethren. Some later migrated to what became the USA, founding settlements like Winston-Salem in North Carolina. One group influenced an Anglican clergyman called John Wesley who went on to found what became the Methodist Church. I was brought up as a Methodist and I would describe our church as derived from Anglicanism heavily influenced by Moravianism. Bila hora is in my cultural DNA
@@giovanniacuto2688 Giovanni, You are very well informed. Thank you for your clear & informative expansion of our discussion. I was raised Catholic, but always identified with the freedom fighting spirit of the Hussites. Czechia was 0ppressed by Communist Russia when I was growing up & I saw a parallel between 16th to 19th century Austrian oppression & 20th century Russian Oppression. I also admire Moravian open minded & egalitarian perspective. It's a pleasure corresponding with you. Doug R.
Makes me sooo homesick, I left at aged 11 I live inAustralia, there’s no place like home ... def keep the old names, lake Australia how ridiculous 😡 grrrrr so wrong all this I didn’t know this was happening 😭
In Ireland, we have almost all roadsigns in English and Gaelic on each sign. Even on public transport we have Gaelic and then the English version or translation on the intercom, one after the other. We’re the Celts!, come on Wales! 🏴.
Aye I mean theirs bin a bit and back an fourth of piracy here and their irish v britons a bit and trible rivalries and I hear the irish may o attacked the picts but as far as our heritage we are all of a proto celtic atlantic people.
It’s never ok to try and purposely erase or destroy a whole culture. Keep your language and everything else about your culture, it’s what makes you unique. Please tell your history don’t let it disappear.
I live in a settlement at the edge of the Great North Wood. It was called Pen Coed. The English occupied it centuries ago, like before A.D. 1000. Not knowing that the original name meant "the head of the wood", they mangled it initially into Penceat which eventually became Penge. It's located in that part of Prydain now called South East London.
We had a similar problem here in Ireland in the 19th century, Irish placenames tell stories going back thousands of years. English cartographers replaced these names, for example "Dubh Linn" became Dublin, but fortunately most are easy to translate back, however some have been lost forever and now we only have English gobbledygook
@@williamq934 so I've said about too many languages including Celtic ones becoming far too Anglicised. I'm neither a native Welsh or Irish speaker because I wasn't raised to learn the native tongues of my ancestry but I proudly identify as a Irish-Welsh-Australian Coleen t'b'sure, my accent is mixed and fluctuates with words and feelings anger and calm between an Irish Birmingham London Australian haven't got a Welsh accent, although some words can drop into the sing song Welsh sometimes. I'm learning Gaelic and Welsh both are hard but so worth it. Manx and Cornish are seriously in trouble of being lost forever.
Keep your Welsh names. English speakers should not have it easy when we visit other places. Please don't give in to lazy visitors. Sincerely, an American with Welsh ancestry.
Excellent Tudur Owen!! Our history is literally written in the landscape. If we lose the names our much derided and abused ancient history will be forgotten....and that cannot happen.
I am Dutch and for keeping the Welsh names . With a bit of thought one comes to understand its meaning and it is wonderful , an eye opener sometimes . Lets take for instance : Llanfiangel ar arth : Church of the Arthur's Angel ( King Arthur 2 ) . It speaks of an History not taught in schools any more .
Are you sure that is what it means? Fihangel is welsh for Michael (it’s mutated after Llan) Llan refers not just to the church but also it’s grounds up until the wall… in this case, the church and graveyard. (Google it) It’s the church of st Michael. Arth is not short for Arthur. It’s either “bear” as in the animal. Or, as it follows the word “ar” meaning on, Arth is a actually Garth. The church of St Michael on the Garth. Garth being a word that itself describing the local landscape.
Had lovely holiday 30yrs ago at a farm conversion called Maes Gwyn. Think it means White Field. River Gwili is beautiful. Rode on Gwili stream train. Just expanding by enthusiasts. Dad loved Wales in 50s take us over the wonderful old Transporter Bridge across R Mersey (boundary river) to Lake Ogwen. Tryfan. Holiday in Llandonna, Ynys Mon, 1959 oil lamps, not in National Grid. Down Lane for water. Liverpool aged 84.
Plenty of examples around here (Wrexham) of anglicising pronunciation of Welsh names by locals. The thing which gets my goat is housebuilders giving estate and street names which they think evokes a rural idyll. There is one near me called ‘Fern Meadow’. Grrrr!
@@frankklein4872 I think you are trying to imply people in Wrexham are not Welsh. I would not recommend advancing that line of argument in Wrexham, unless you are from Brighton or maybe a scouser. Brighton are exempt because their fans were fantastic when it looked as if the Racecourse was going to be sold off by the owner. Scousers are generally liked in North Wales, if nowhere else
I am partly Welsh and fondly remember visiting relatives in Northern Wales as a child. Though I have never lived in Wales, I loved it there. If you loose your language you loose your culture and become a footnote to history. Keep the Welsh, teach the Welsh... heck why not require bilingualism! Here in Canada everything is in French and English for that reason.
I know of two places called "Fairy Glen" - one at the end of the Sychnant Pass (near Conwy) , another Ffos Noddum (near Betws-y-Coed). Furthermore there is Horseshoe pass near LLangollen - real name Bwlch Oernant. The OS maps even use the Anglicised version....... how rude.
Had lovely holiday 30yrs ago at a farm conversion called Maes Gwyn. Think it means White Field. River Gwili is beautiful. Rode on Gwili stream train. Just expanding by enthusiasts. Dad loved Wales in 50s take us over the wonderful old Transporter Bridge across R Mersey (boundary river) to Lake Ogwen. Tryfan. Holiday in Llandonna, Ynys Mon, 1959 oil lamps, not in National Grid. Down Lane for water. Bontnewydd possibly new bridge? Stayed in Hook, R. Gleddau etc Liverpool age 84
Unacceptable, sacrilege to cater to the English and give up our own especially since our names are so descriptive and tied to our topography and history.
Welsh needs to be saved and taught much more than it is same goes for all the Celtic Languages. This video I fully agree with far too many languages become Anglicised. It's getting harder to learn.
Le gach dea guí ó Éireann -- with every good wish from Ireland, keep the Cymraeg names. We have similar problems today in Ireland when local authorities and or developers ignore the history, the heritage of townland names, we also had a problem with our next door neighbours LOL Anglicising names from Gaeilge to meaningless Anglish, like Abhainn Mór = Big River and you might see a sign saying Owenmore river which in fact sounds like " the big river river " to a Gaeilgeóir ( Gaelic speaker) keep the beautiful language of my great-grandmother alive, she hailed from Wrecsam . Rwy'n siarad Gaeleg Gwyddeleg fel fy ail iaith, ac rwy'n falch o fy ngwaed Cymraeg hefyd.
@@frankklein4872 Haha. Hilarious. Read the Llandaff Charters , where he is referred to for land grants to the church in South Wales as both King Arthrwys and King Arthur. No other church record exits which refer to him.
I am American with Welsh ancestry. I couldn’t agree more with this narrator. We can’t rely on schools anymore to teach history, and therefore impart a proud and passionate connection to our past. So, parents! Please rise to the task and impress upon the children to never forget their true heritage!!
I do not agree with the changes. I believe Wales should stand its ground on this matter. Our heritage, including original place names, should remain unchanged. It's a matter of respect.
Wales does not need a Lake Australia and this is an Aussie saying it . Here in Australia may place names are being replaced with those of the original inhabitants. The famous Ayers Rock was reverted to Uluru years ago .
As an Australian of Welsh-64%- and English descent I would ask you to get rid of the name, Lake Australia, and throw out the English names substituted for the Welsh ones. In Australia we have many towns named after early settlers and their home towns. These include Welsh names such as Griffith, Carnarvon, Welshpool, Swansea, Llanelly, Welshman's Creek, Llandeilo and more. We even have the State of New South Wales here. However, many of our place names come from the indigenous/aboriginals /first peoples of our land. Examples of the hundreds, if not thousands, of such names are Mooloolaba, Oombulgurri, Kooweerup, Mudginberri, Kerang, Indoorpilly, Woolongong, Gundagai, Coonabarabran, Warnambool, Noojee, Minyip, Badaginni etc. As well there also names of tribal areas/country such as Dja Dja Wurrung, Kurnai, Ngunnawal, Woiworung etc. We have learnt to pronounce them correctly, sometimes with a little help of breaking up the words into syllables and emphasis. The English Government could pay for signs which have the Welsh name and then it's pronunciation and syllable emphasis in brackets underneath. My great grandfather spoke Welsh. My parents could not due to the Welsh Not at school. Your language is the true, ancient British one. Is is beautiful and melodious. When holidaying in Wales I would often just stop and listen to people when they spoke in Welsh. Please guard and fight for your treasure and don't let others take it away from you.
Cwm Cneifion. Koom kinavion is not difficult to pronounce and means something like fleece valley, either because the rocks look somewhat like tufts of wool or because shearing was carried out there. Cwm survives in many English names as comb, combe, coombe.
My Great, Great Grandfather was Welch. Thee most beautiful place I've ever been to. The cultural aspects alone make Wales #1 the richest country on Earth. Money doesn't always make a country rich. Names alone carry SO MUCH!. People, Places, and things. Please respect this beautiful land. Maybe a bumper sticker "Respect Our Names, We Respect Yours", "Make The Effort, Try Welsh" or "Welsh, Is Fun (Clap Clap) For Everyone". What I mean is, maybe a big "Let's Keep Our Names" media campaign?
If you accommodate foreigners you will loose your language, Welsh names are being omitted from maps made in England, English scholars in Oxford and Cambridge were under orders from the Church of England to get rid of welsh history because it was an embarrassment to them and the English monarchy, welsh history was stopped being taught in welsh schools in 1924 this is one example I’m talking about, the first church in Britain was in wales in Glamorgan Llanilid, imagine what an embarrassment that is to the Church of England .
It's so sad I didn't even realised how many of our names have been replaced already how did we let this happen. Why can't we have bilingual and Welsh should be priority it's our country. It's saddened me.
Since moving to Wales, I was confused by Kidwelly because there is no 'K' in Welsh, It's Cidweli. Yet every sign, map and anywhere you look it is Kidwelly. I think that the Welsh names should remain as they are and people should at least make an effort, even if it is wrong.
As an American, your message touched me deeply. Whether a story perceived as good or bad, erasing history must be put in check! Words are monuments as are the statues and place names being neutralized or removed here. I don’t care if Welsh spelling is Lllllooonng: phonetic pronunciations can easily be added in parentheses under the word.
Brilliant video!!! We keep our Welsh Place Names, reverse the English versions by reinstating the old Welsh Names. Not only have we lost much of our history, we have an untold history until Alan Wilson and Baram Blackett.
I was really surprised to find that this is happening, and can't understand why any author if a guidebook would ever want to do it. No need for doom and gloom though: Welsh place-names in general have mutated much less than English ones, and still bear their original meanings: What English speaker understands Marstow (St Martin's meeting-place), or realises the meanings of worth (estate) or wick (dairy-farm), and cop and hope are the same (secluded valley)? English place-names use otherwise defunct words. And Welsh place-names are durable in another way: In South Herefordshire they are still in use despite the extinction of Welsh as a local language in the time of Henry VIII. The farms, hills, streams and villages mostly have Brythonic origins - sometimes recognisably Welsh (Hendre, or Mynydd Ferddyn), sometimes anglicised (Doward, or Ross), sometimes mistranslated (Whitchurch), sometimes repeated in English and Welsh (Wormelow Tump), and sometimes garbled by passing through Norman French and Mediaeval Latin records (Garway, and Llangarron) - but they are still here, just like the rabbits along Conigree Lane.
Im from wales and i live in Canada. Only since living there and learning about the colonization of the indiginous cultures did i realize that is what has happened to mine. I have a little boy i want to learn Cymraeg for him. And help keep our culture alive. Thank you for leaving such inspirational comments
Keep the names, teach the history, and make them normal and part of every day life.🥰 This makes me want to find out what the ancient native names are where I live. I know some but they didn't really have a written language (that I know of) until more recently (2 or 3 hundred years). A visit to rural Wales is definitely on my bucket list.
Brilliant report. So true that the history, the culture and the language must not disappear - it would truly be a tragedy to Cymru. Rhaid i ni ddim colli yr hanes neu’r iaith 🏴
That ridiculous renaming must surely be stopped. It amounts to abuse. I was born and lived near Porth Trecastell; it and its headland with Neolithic Barclodiad y Gawres were my escape places. There were then also ravens. It was even then called Cable Bay and there was a cable marker in those times, a red lozenge on a pole near the western side in some way connected with Marconi, but that was really no excuse. This already old report has shocked me even though I was never able to return to live there. The video makes me very homesick!
Keep the welsh names. I walk around with Angharad as my RL first name in Australia I've always loved it. I've never wanted to change it. I do have a nickname but my real close family and friends say Angharad. I love it. My family don't speak Welsh so I don't know it. I can hear the accent a mile away I adore it. Wtf Lake Australia? Nope keep the real name. I actually live near Ebbw Vale in qld my husband says it the right way cos I told him but the news people can't.
Ebbw vale!!! You hypocrite. Never wanna southie for pronunciation. Listen to South based biased Welsh news or that idiot fake South Walian woman Sally Boazman
There is literally no reason to have English spellings of Welsh towns. Why change Wrecsam to Wrexham or Yr Wyddgrug to Mold. English names for Welsh towns need to be scrapped
Isn't it difficult for the Welsh people who don't speak Welsh ? . Why is not okay to have both spellings on road sounds etc as they currently have and as they do in Europe ? .I do agree that Welsh Names should not be lost.. I am confused as I felt they were not .
@@carolanquinn9204 I’m Welsh!I now live in England!Why isn’t there any Welsh spellings on your road signs?Are you so elitist that you think Wales should have English road signed in Wales?Listen to yourself Nazi!
@@carolanquinn9204 people should make an effort to learn the names/words, even if they can’t understand them there is no need to Anglicize our culture.
@@markjones336 LOL Why would we ? That's just daft.. We have more French people living here than Welsh. :Do you know how many different nations live in this country.. ? Hoe many bleedin' signs do you want ! LOL . And this is England so why not find a common language that everyone can speak ,, if you are living in that Country,learn that language .. If you go to Spain you should learn to speak Spanish.. However You wouldn't choose to learn Catalonian . Like Spain and other countries , Wales has Two languages.. Your argument is nuts !. and pretty selfish .
Whoever thought "lake Australia" was a better name for that lake deserves a kick in the bollocks!
Could not agree more. I am English, but I lived in Wales for five years. ( had a great time, thanks!) It didn't take me long to realise that once you get the system down, Welsh is not difficult to pronounce at all. Definitely more logical than English with all its exceptions. All it needs is a bit of effort ( really, just a bit ) and the rest follows. Replacing local names with spurious English ones seems to make no sense at all.
Pontcariodwr anyone. Maybe use the word the English use....
English speakers are so used to their illogical spelling system that anything as regular and sensible as Welsh is complete nonsense to them
Hi Christopher, Likewise, coming from the opposite side of this island and spending a little over six years in Wales between late 2011 and early 2018, I couldn't agree more. This may sound daft, but it still jars with my expectations hearing the automated lift/elevator announcements just in English.
@@frankklein4872 what's so difficult about pronouncing Pont-Carry-odd-oorr???
I'm Welsh and living in Finland and learning Finnish. I can see why Tolkien was enamored with both Welsh and Finnish. Once my finnish language skills are good enough to gain Finnish citizenship, I will focus on learning Welsh, the beautiful language of my land. I've unfortunately forgotten most of the Welsh that I learned in school. I'm going to make so much more of an effort to use Welsh placenames from here on out!
Tolkein was a scholar of Anglo Saxon, and loved Beowulf and all the old Danish sagas
You should go for Basque or Hungarian to get a hat trick of difficult European languages
@@jontalbot1 as cool as both those languages are, I feel that it would be a crime for me not to try to relearn what should be my mother tongue. I do speak some Chinese and Spanish. So I'll have reached the computing capacity for my little tumbleweed brain once I've mastered Finnish,and Welsh to good enough levels 😅
I am a native English speaker and Welsh is one of the most beautiful languages I have ever heard. There is so much about Wales to appreciate. I wish I were younger bc Wales would be on my bucket list. Don't let go of your culture in exchange for the shallow, trendy words & names to please tourists. If people can't pronounce these words - I can't - too bad.
I am a brazilian guy passionate about Cymru and Cymraeg. One of the most fascinating and beautiful stories among any other nation. A rich and living heritage that needs to be held, must be saved. Love you guys, keep your story and your beautiful language with all the pride you have. Every place in your land is a bless. Greetings from Brazil
The Welsh language has a fascinating and romantic back story. Keep fighting for your cultural history. I am an American with no Welsh heritage, but I have seen what has happened to our Native American cultures, and it saddens me.
Please don’t replace ANY of these names, Welsh is beautiful and the language/names should be preserved!
I'm learning Welsh and I ended up actually looking at why local places have their names. Every name tells a story. It's so interesting, even names for plants in Welsh some have stories connected to them. learning a new language really does open another door and another world. Let's not lose it. Dysgu cymru :)
Da iawn - pob lwc gyda dysgu'r Gymraeg.
Im definitely going to start iv wanted to but life keeps on getting in the way stopped learning when I was about 8 years old and totally regret it French and German where the two that welsh schools seem to favour in the 90s regret that I did not have this drive to learn then
The is one man that has given Welsh names to, and written nature / wildlife books and his name is Twm Elias!!
How are u learning it, I really want to cause I’m a duel citizen of the United Kingdom and United States. I’m welsh and I want to learn my language but don’t know how
@@tteee7241 Welsh is my first language, but there is a intense learning course called 'Say Something in Welsh' or Duo Lingo??
As an English person I say hold on to, and cherish your beautiful Welsh language! I have spent many happy times in west Wales and miss it a lot.
Welsh people! Resist the English, keep using your ancient and beautiful language! Greetings from Italy!
Written in English well done you learn our language.I see you are resisting it , racial comment anti English no one stopping them use there language .....
@@jerrysummers5971 What kind of weed have you smoked lately? My comment was not anti-anyone. I just like to see how ancient languages are still spoken despite the overbearing presence of the dominant language. And since it is English, I cannot say Portuguese. Would have been that the dominant language I'd have said so, or German or Chinese. Or maybe it is the Euro Cup final that still burns...
@@lucmanzoni6265 It's good the Welsh try and keep their place names language and traditions.
You were condescending about the English just a put down really,silly response to say I smoke drugs never have.Dont judge ppl by your low standards .As far as the football Italy won on penalties good luck to them it just a game ,you seem to have a problem with it 😉
@@jerrysummers5971 Hey lad, it seems you don't follow the narrative here... I was not condescending about English per se, as I've already explained above. About drugs, it was just hyperbole, I don't even know who you are... Finally, I don't see how could I possibly have a problem winning the Euro Cup, quite the opposite. And England played well, so good for them, too: I consider second-place to be a very good achievement as well.
@@lucmanzoni6265 I know you are Italian probably live in England 🤔 Obviously you are glad Italy won the cup; on penalties better managed team won on the night well done 👍
Keep the Welsh names! Especially since the English ones aren't even trying to translate the meaning!!
Here in Australia, there is a movement in the opposite direction, where indigenous names of geographical features are being restored and are either replacing English ones, or both names are being used side by side.
As someone who is half Welsh and spent his first 6 years in Swansea, I can make a reasonable go of pronouncing Welsh place names. I sometimes trip up on which way to pronounce Y, but I think that I've got the rules right now.
He’s so right. It would be such a shame to have any country littered with fake, phoney names when beautiful ones already exist. Keep the Welsh names, you don’t need the ‘translations’ for those who can’t be bothered. It’s lazy to insist on English pseudonames and if they are introduced almost everyone will rely on the lowest common denominator to communicate because it’s easier. But express your country’s history, culture, topography, people and language(s) in your beautiful place names and we’ll learn them
Celtic countries all continue to speak their own languages keeping the history of place names for generations to come.
That is so disrespectful. I was born in Brazil, I am learning Welsh and love Welsh place names. They make so much sense and adds a great feel to the place.
Please, anglophones, be sensible. You have so much to gain and learn.
We used to go on family holidays to Wales when I was very young (starting when I was about 5 or 6 I think) and I loved it. We returned to the same place a number of times and I can still remember exactly how to pronounce it, despite being so young at the time. No idea on the spelling but I now feel inspired to try and find out so I can learn the story behind it! Please keep using the real names. Don't lose your beautiful language or the history of your homeland.
I am the American granddaughter of a Welshman, and proud to be so. I always wanted to learn Welsh. Do NOT give up the Welsh names. Help us learn to pronounce it.
Learn Welsh on Duolingo!
Just north of the town of Usk in Monmouthshire, near the Usk/Abergavenny road, property developers established a small, up-market, rural housing development, which is overlooked by a wooded hill. At the entrance to this community, the newly installed, perhaps aspirational, middle class residents placed a sign. It said, "Woody Grove, formerly known as Coed yr Allt" Welsh history wiped out by snobbery and ignorance.
I'm English. Keep the names ... we'll make the effort.
Some will make the effort. Invite them to dinner! Ask them to bring a friend who might be interested if introduced to the idea.
Good to hear because these words were ours and a part of our culture before the English tried to rob us of them.
@@colleendavis4225 We didn't try to rob you of anything. We dragged you along with us through an industrial revolution and YOU stopped speaking your own language as English became the language of trade and commerce. Easy to blame the English for everything, isn't it, but without us you'd still be running around in animal skins chucking spears at things.
@@mrscreamer379 that really is a stupid thing to say. England never dragged Wales into anything that brought much if any benefit, just the opposite. As to the decline of the Welsh language you can put that down to English dominance and immigration during the Industrial revolution. There are many instances of laws aimed at suppressing the language and Welshness in general, starting after the conquest of Edward 1 but continuing down the centuries. The fact that the Welsh language has survived at all is amazing considering the political and economic power of England.
This is not an anti English polemic, it is just fact.
I very much doubt that you know anything about the history of Wales.
@@colleendavis4225 no need to alienate by bringing backwards old politics into it. yes, it was bad, but things are changing.
As an Australian of Scottish heritage, I am so sorry for the Welsh for having ‘Lake Australia’ imposed on you.
If you are Scottish will you act to preserve the Scots language? Aye laddie?
Yeah, I thought that sounded… I don’t know, not poetic, maybe? The story behind the name is a beautiful tradition vs naming something because it looks like another place.
Walkers’ Wood is also a poem that i had to study at TGAU Cymraeg, whilst reading the poem tells the story of a son and his grandfather. His grandfather explained why it was called Walkers’ Wood and how it used to be Coed Llugwy. Hearing these worts of things just fills me with emotion and national pride for our language, to take a rubber to hunderds upon hunderds of year of history would be o so tradgic and just be an insult to all the poeple in our history that have faught fo us to be able to speak Cymraeg. Dw i mor balch o’n hiaith a mor browd y fedrai ei siarad hi.
There's no bloody way should any compromise what so ever be given regarding anything Welsh.. this is our country our language our heritage...this is Wales.. why is this being allowed to happen? This isn't eng.. what's happening in eng with the self loathing has no place in Wales
We should tax london for the water they need & steal from us...and back tax them at that.
As Australian Aboriginal i hope the Welsh remember that even though the English conquered and claimed the land as theirs. They have never fully won while you still maintain that link to your past. Conquerors know this. That's why just as with the Aboriginals, they have worked so hard to destroy the links to your past, My great great Grandfather was Welsh. And he told my father how if he was caught talking Welsh at school, he would get a canned by the teachers. The same things my Aboriginal grand parents went through. It will be a complete shame if the modern Welshman was to give up that last link because a few entitled foreigners had trouble with a few place names.
I'm English but I definitely support the keeping of the original Welsh names anywhere in Wales because replacing them with English names that have absolutely no link to the history of the Welsh names just mean the culture and history of the area just gets deleted and Welsh just slowly loses prominence as a language in the area. If places like Caernarfon, Conwy and Llanelli all reversed the attempted anglicisation of their names (from Caernarvon, Conway and Llanelly respectively), there is no reason why the Welsh names for other places can't be retained or even the meaningless English names being removed entirely from them.
I do believe in any case it is hypocritical to expect people to get names like Derby, Leicester, Norwich and Worcester in England correct yet disregard names outside England in other parts of the UK (whether it be Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland) just because they are hard to pronounce or look weird. Even if names are hard to pronounce, it is still worth attempting them anyway even if the attempt is not accurate to the Welsh pronunciation because at least when keeping the original name, the history is still kept along with the culture, which is one reason why over the last two years, I made an effort to improve my pronunciation of Welsh place names so that they match the Welsh pronunciation as much as possible.
I love a land that has its cultures, to tell to recall and to live proudly!
I've only in the last few years begun to really connect with my Welsh heritage, I was born and raised in Wales and it's only when I moved away did I start to realise what I left behind. So I started to learn Welsh and dive into our folklore and ancient history, it's been amazing learning so much and I feel closer to the home I miss so much.
I was never one for patriotism but seeing things like this do make me angry, the blatant laziness and arrogance of just erasing something because you have trouble saying it makes my blood boil.
You don't have to say it if you can't but don't try to change it. Like the gentleman said, try, give it a go, make a mess of it. There's so much history in a name, no matter where you go.
I agree totally with this. There are historical houses near me that have had there names changed by developers. If you wanted to put UPVC windows and paint the house purple you'd be stopped. Changing the name that means something and relates to the landscape isn't protected. It should be.
Martin Hughes definitely mate, names of places like these need to be protected, hoping something like that gets passed!
Can I ask you how long did it take you to learn Welsh, I myself am Welsh but speak only English
sambo still learning! Only the very basic conversation stuff so far, just practicing a little on Duolingo each day, I find watching Welsh programs (Hansh on UA-cam is good for it) helps too, even if I can't understand most of it, parroting the sounds helps with pronounciation and flow, pob lwc on your journey! I've heard the 'Say Something in Welsh' is really good too!
I'm the same got to an age where u regret that u didn't get to learn welsh properly Im probably at the level of a five year old because I stopped when I went to a comprehensive school in the early 90s u where told its a pointless language in school and best to learn French of German. I totally regret that welsh was not mandatory it should be my teachers where mostly old English that where constantly say u are saying things wrong
My heritage is Czech. Under the Habsburg Austrian Empire the Czech language was almost wiped out under German hegemony. Only thanks to the vigorous efforts of a small group of patriots do We have a Country & language today. Keep up your good work preserving Welsh
By the end of the 16th century Czech culture was predominantly "protestant" or at least separated from the Catholic Church. It was the Jesuit - inspired Catholicism of the Austrian-German Emperor in whose territory the Czech lands lay that not only virtually wiped out the Czech language but also the specifically Czech forms of Christianity.
@@giovanniacuto2688 Thank you Giovanni, That was a very accurate explanation of the history of that period. Earlier the reformer Jan Hus was tricked by German bishops with an offer of safe passage to a conference to discuss his proposed reforms & was killed. After that his followers cut themselves off from the Roman church & fighting began. As you said by the 16th century things came to a head & the Czechs were overwhelmed.
@@dougr.2245 After the Catholic "reconquest" small groups of radical Hussites, Bohemian Brethren, survived clandestinely particularly in Moravia. The descendants of one of these groups went into exile in neighbouring Saxony where they were given land by a Lutheran nobleman. They became known as the Moravian Brethren. Some later migrated to what became the USA, founding settlements like Winston-Salem in North Carolina. One group influenced an Anglican clergyman called John Wesley who went on to found what became the Methodist Church. I was brought up as a Methodist and I would describe our church as derived from Anglicanism heavily influenced by Moravianism. Bila hora is in my cultural DNA
@@giovanniacuto2688 Giovanni, You are very well informed. Thank you for your clear & informative expansion of our discussion. I was raised Catholic, but always identified with the freedom fighting spirit of the Hussites. Czechia was 0ppressed by Communist Russia when I was growing up & I saw a parallel between 16th to 19th century Austrian oppression & 20th century Russian Oppression. I also admire Moravian open minded & egalitarian perspective. It's a pleasure corresponding with you. Doug R.
This is terrific! Thanks so much for this. Keep the Welsh names!
Makes me sooo homesick, I left at aged 11 I live inAustralia, there’s no place like home ... def keep the old names, lake Australia how ridiculous 😡 grrrrr so wrong all this I didn’t know this was happening 😭
ozzie masons are tamer than their counterparts elsewhere
but you can still reverse over them a good couple of times and make the car bump up and down
In Ireland, we have almost all roadsigns in English and Gaelic on each sign. Even on public transport we have Gaelic and then the English version or translation on the intercom, one after the other. We’re the Celts!, come on Wales! 🏴.
You Do REALISE that Welsh and Irish DNA is utterly different. You invaded our land, or are you ignorant of history as well as people's dna?
@@frankklein4872 No its not, go away. You're German
@@frankklein4872 After the Scots and Manx, the Welsh, Cornish and Bretons, and some in northern Spain, are our second closest relatives.
Aye I mean theirs bin a bit and back an fourth of piracy here and their irish v britons a bit and trible rivalries and I hear the irish may o attacked the picts but as far as our heritage we are all of a proto celtic atlantic people.
My family are originally from Wales the language was never taught to me.
Keep the place names ! I should be taught in all schools
Snapsies
Lake Australia! How crass.
It’s never ok to try and purposely erase or destroy a whole culture. Keep your language and everything else about your culture, it’s what makes you unique. Please tell your history don’t let it disappear.
I live in a settlement at the edge of the Great North Wood. It was called Pen Coed. The English occupied it centuries ago, like before A.D. 1000. Not knowing that the original name meant "the head of the wood", they mangled it initially into Penceat which eventually became Penge. It's located in that part of Prydain now called South East London.
I’m from llandudno … I moved away when I was 16 .!… this just made me book a flight for GO HOME XX
Cymru am byth! ✌
We had a similar problem here in Ireland in the 19th century, Irish placenames tell stories going back thousands of years. English cartographers replaced these names, for example "Dubh Linn" became Dublin, but fortunately most are easy to translate back, however some have been lost forever and now we only have English gobbledygook
Too right !
@@williamq934 so I've said about too many languages including Celtic ones becoming far too Anglicised. I'm neither a native Welsh or Irish speaker because I wasn't raised to learn the native tongues of my ancestry but I proudly identify as a Irish-Welsh-Australian Coleen t'b'sure, my accent is mixed and fluctuates with words and feelings anger and calm between an Irish Birmingham London Australian haven't got a Welsh accent, although some words can drop into the sing song Welsh sometimes. I'm learning Gaelic and Welsh both are hard but so worth it. Manx and Cornish are seriously in trouble of being lost forever.
Genedl heb iaith genedl heb calon - A nation without a language is a nation without a heart.
ie....(Cenedl dwi'n credu, nid Genedl)
So what does that make Belgium or Switzerland? You racist
@@frankklein4872
Keep Welsh! Keep the story, keep the past, and when you die, look at your ancestors with pride!
...long live our Welsh names, history and culture...Greetings from Louisiana, USA 🇺🇸 ’OWENS’ bloodline...
Keep your Welsh names. English speakers should not have it easy when we visit other places. Please don't give in to lazy visitors.
Sincerely, an American with Welsh ancestry.
i'm English with African ancestry you have to go back 60,000 years but it still counts right?
@@dominichills3594 this comment oml😂😂😂
You ain't African, you self loathing woke culturally appropriated Lib. Be proud be Neanderthal
@@frankklein4872 wtf is your problem? Nobody claimed to be African.
YES!
Lovely well presented video - diolch
Excellent Tudur Owen!! Our history is literally written in the landscape. If we lose the names our much derided and abused ancient history will be forgotten....and that cannot happen.
Ry'n ni yma o hyd!
Cymru am byth! 🏴
It’s not an accident, our mountain names have been taken off the Ordinance survey maps since 1982 approximately.
WHAT!!!!!!??😕
I was genuinely getting annoyed at Jam Pot Hill and Australia Lake
i was pretty miffed about freemasonry
but nobody else seems to mind filling their head with scummy dogshit constantly
I am Dutch and for keeping the Welsh names . With a bit of thought one comes to understand
its meaning and it is wonderful , an eye opener sometimes . Lets take for instance :
Llanfiangel ar arth : Church of the Arthur's Angel ( King Arthur 2 ) . It speaks of an History not
taught in schools any more .
Will your frisian languages and dialects survive?
Are you sure that is what it means?
Fihangel is welsh for Michael (it’s mutated after Llan)
Llan refers not just to the church but also it’s grounds up until the wall… in this case, the church and graveyard. (Google it)
It’s the church of st Michael.
Arth is not short for Arthur. It’s either “bear” as in the animal. Or, as it follows the word “ar” meaning on, Arth is a actually Garth.
The church of St Michael on the Garth. Garth being a word that itself describing the local landscape.
try looking at - Britain's Hidden History Ross..you tube for more history King Arthur 2 etc
They have even taken mountain names from the Ordinance survey maps, why?
Had lovely holiday 30yrs ago at a farm conversion called Maes Gwyn. Think it means White Field. River Gwili is beautiful. Rode on Gwili stream train. Just expanding by enthusiasts. Dad loved Wales in 50s take us over the wonderful old Transporter Bridge across R Mersey (boundary river) to Lake Ogwen. Tryfan. Holiday in Llandonna, Ynys Mon, 1959 oil lamps, not in National Grid. Down Lane for water. Liverpool aged 84.
Plenty of examples around here (Wrexham) of anglicising pronunciation of Welsh names by locals. The thing which gets my goat is housebuilders giving estate and street names which they think evokes a rural idyll. There is one near me called ‘Fern Meadow’. Grrrr!
What is the DNA of Wrexham though?
@@frankklein4872 I think you are trying to imply people in Wrexham are not Welsh. I would not recommend advancing that line of argument in Wrexham, unless you are from Brighton or maybe a scouser. Brighton are exempt because their fans were fantastic when it looked as if the Racecourse was going to be sold off by the owner. Scousers are generally liked in North Wales, if nowhere else
I am partly Welsh and fondly remember visiting relatives in Northern Wales as a child. Though I have never lived in Wales, I loved it there.
If you loose your language you loose your culture and become a footnote to history. Keep the Welsh, teach the Welsh... heck why not require bilingualism! Here in Canada everything is in French and English for that reason.
I don't care who complains, Anglesey will always be Ynys Mon to me. Same with Abertawe/Swansea.
I know of two places called "Fairy Glen" - one at the end of the Sychnant Pass (near Conwy) , another Ffos Noddum (near Betws-y-Coed). Furthermore there is Horseshoe pass near LLangollen - real name Bwlch Oernant. The OS maps even use the Anglicised version....... how rude.
I was saddened to see that the sign on 'Yr Ych Du' public house in Abergwili just outside Caerfyrddin (Carmarthen) now only has the name in English.
Welsh sound so cool! Teach it in all Welsh schools.
I grew up in a street called Glyn-y-mel, now been anglized to Honey Glen.
Please upload more videos and let's keep a digital record of these place names as well as in our memories! Great video!
I'm not 100% sure but I think that the National Library of Wales in Aberystwyth is doing that exact thing but may be not on UA-cam.
Had lovely holiday 30yrs ago at a farm conversion called Maes Gwyn. Think it means White Field. River Gwili is beautiful. Rode on Gwili stream train. Just expanding by enthusiasts. Dad loved Wales in 50s take us over the wonderful old Transporter Bridge across R Mersey (boundary river) to Lake Ogwen. Tryfan. Holiday in Llandonna, Ynys Mon, 1959 oil lamps, not in National Grid. Down Lane for water. Bontnewydd possibly new bridge? Stayed in Hook, R. Gleddau etc Liverpool age 84
Unacceptable, sacrilege to cater to the English and give up our own especially since our names are so descriptive and tied to our topography and history.
Welsh needs to be saved and taught much more than it is same goes for all the Celtic Languages. This video I fully agree with far too many languages become Anglicised. It's getting harder to learn.
I love my Welsh brothers and sisters!
Le gach dea guí ó Éireann -- with every good wish from Ireland, keep the Cymraeg names. We have similar problems today in Ireland when local authorities and or developers ignore the history, the heritage of townland names, we also had a problem with our next door neighbours LOL Anglicising names from Gaeilge to meaningless Anglish, like Abhainn Mór = Big River and you might see a sign saying Owenmore river which in fact sounds like " the big river river " to a Gaeilgeóir ( Gaelic speaker) keep the beautiful language of my great-grandmother alive, she hailed from Wrecsam . Rwy'n siarad Gaeleg Gwyddeleg fel fy ail iaith, ac rwy'n falch o fy ngwaed Cymraeg hefyd.
And now the name of Mynydd Baedan (where the Welsh King Arthur had his great victory over the Saxons) is being erased from maps.
King Arthur never stepped foot in wales, he was an ulsterman during Roman times
@@frankklein4872 Haha. Hilarious. Read the Llandaff Charters , where he is referred to for land grants to the church in South Wales as both King Arthrwys and King Arthur. No other church record exits which refer to him.
I just found out I’m half welsh living in Canada and now I’m very interested in the history and language it’s very fascinating
I am American with Welsh ancestry. I couldn’t agree more with this narrator. We can’t rely on schools anymore to teach history, and therefore impart a proud and passionate connection to our past. So, parents! Please rise to the task and impress upon the children to never forget their true heritage!!
Great video. Well done. Very important message.
Cofiwch dryweryn✊🏼
I do not agree with the changes. I believe Wales should stand its ground on this matter. Our heritage, including original place names, should remain unchanged. It's a matter of respect.
Wales does not need a Lake Australia and this is an Aussie saying it .
Here in Australia may place names are being replaced with those of the original inhabitants. The famous Ayers Rock was reverted to Uluru years ago .
As an Australian of Welsh-64%- and English descent I would ask you to get rid of the name, Lake Australia, and throw out the English names substituted for the Welsh ones. In Australia we have many towns named after early settlers and their home towns. These include Welsh names such as Griffith, Carnarvon, Welshpool, Swansea, Llanelly, Welshman's Creek, Llandeilo and more. We even have the State of New South Wales here. However, many of our place names come from the indigenous/aboriginals /first peoples of our land. Examples of the hundreds, if not thousands, of such names are Mooloolaba, Oombulgurri, Kooweerup, Mudginberri, Kerang, Indoorpilly, Woolongong, Gundagai, Coonabarabran, Warnambool, Noojee, Minyip, Badaginni etc. As well there also names of tribal areas/country such as Dja Dja Wurrung, Kurnai, Ngunnawal, Woiworung etc. We have learnt to pronounce them correctly, sometimes with a little help of breaking up the words into syllables and emphasis. The English Government could pay for signs which have the Welsh name and then it's pronunciation and syllable emphasis in brackets underneath.
My great grandfather spoke Welsh. My parents could not due to the Welsh Not at school. Your language is the true, ancient British one. Is is beautiful and melodious. When holidaying in Wales I would often just stop and listen to people when they spoke in Welsh. Please guard and fight for your treasure and don't let others take it away from you.
Names just change, either good or bad. Cable Bay replaced the Welsh place name but it was called something else even before that Welsh place name.
0:40 Joke's on me... I began asking myself where in Wales the towns of 'Wosestirsaer' and 'Slwff' might be, and I'm from England.😅🤣
Cwm Cneifion. Koom kinavion is not difficult to pronounce and means something like fleece valley, either because the rocks look somewhat like tufts of wool or because shearing was carried out there.
Cwm survives in many English names as comb, combe, coombe.
My Great, Great Grandfather was Welch. Thee most beautiful place I've ever been to. The cultural aspects alone make Wales #1 the richest country on Earth. Money doesn't always make a country rich. Names alone carry SO MUCH!. People, Places, and things. Please respect this beautiful land. Maybe a bumper sticker "Respect Our Names, We Respect Yours", "Make The Effort, Try Welsh" or "Welsh, Is Fun (Clap Clap) For Everyone". What I mean is, maybe a big "Let's Keep Our Names" media campaign?
*Welsh
If you accommodate foreigners you will loose your language, Welsh names are being omitted from maps made in England, English scholars in Oxford and Cambridge were under orders from the Church of England to get rid of welsh history because it was an embarrassment to them and the English monarchy, welsh history was stopped being taught in welsh schools in 1924 this is one example I’m talking about, the first church in Britain was in wales in Glamorgan Llanilid, imagine what an embarrassment that is to the Church of England .
Excellent
yn bendant!
Yep... People seem to forget that Wales has so much History. In favour of biting their tongue to a void being stripped of posistion.
Yma O Hyd!
and the teachings of Yeshua/Jesus are based on humility not pride
Would be heartbreaking and an embarrassing loss for the world, if the Welsh language was lost like this. Stand up and fight back Wales!
It's so sad I didn't even realised how many of our names have been replaced already how did we let this happen. Why can't we have bilingual and Welsh should be priority it's our country. It's saddened me.
Spot on
Since moving to Wales, I was confused by Kidwelly because there is no 'K' in Welsh, It's Cidweli. Yet every sign, map and anywhere you look it is Kidwelly. I think that the Welsh names should remain as they are and people should at least make an effort, even if it is wrong.
There used to be a "K" in the Welsh alphabet, but as there is no soft "C" in Welsh it fell into disuse with the advent of the printing press iirc
As an American, your message touched me deeply. Whether a story perceived as good or bad, erasing history must be put in check! Words are monuments as are the statues and place names being neutralized or removed here.
I don’t care if Welsh spelling is Lllllooonng: phonetic pronunciations can easily be added in parentheses under the word.
Afalau ac orenau
Brilliant video!!! We keep our Welsh Place Names, reverse the English versions by reinstating the old Welsh Names. Not only have we lost much of our history, we have an untold history until Alan Wilson and Baram Blackett.
I was really surprised to find that this is happening, and can't understand why any author if a guidebook would ever want to do it.
No need for doom and gloom though:
Welsh place-names in general have mutated much less than English ones, and still bear their original meanings: What English speaker understands Marstow (St Martin's meeting-place), or realises the meanings of worth (estate) or wick (dairy-farm), and cop and hope are the same (secluded valley)? English place-names use otherwise defunct words.
And Welsh place-names are durable in another way:
In South Herefordshire they are still in use despite the extinction of Welsh as a local language in the time of Henry VIII. The farms, hills, streams and villages mostly have Brythonic origins - sometimes recognisably Welsh (Hendre, or Mynydd Ferddyn), sometimes anglicised (Doward, or Ross), sometimes mistranslated (Whitchurch), sometimes repeated in English and Welsh (Wormelow Tump), and sometimes garbled by passing through Norman French and Mediaeval Latin records (Garway, and Llangarron) - but they are still here, just like the rabbits along Conigree Lane.
Rhondda river, Aber mouth of possibly? Aberdeen, R. Dee. Scotland and N Wales.
Loved hearing the place names. Keep fighting
Im from wales and i live in Canada. Only since living there and learning about the colonization of the indiginous cultures did i realize that is what has happened to mine. I have a little boy i want to learn Cymraeg for him. And help keep our culture alive. Thank you for leaving such inspirational comments
As long as y’all have name signs with pronunciations, I’m cool with it. Greetings from Louisiana, USA!
Family from Brynsiencyn, Angelsey and Llangevny, Angelsey.
I am Canadian of Welsh descent, I am on a journey to learn more about my family roots in the UK. and beyond
Keep the names, teach the history, and make them normal and part of every day life.🥰 This makes me want to find out what the ancient native names are where I live. I know some but they didn't really have a written language (that I know of) until more recently (2 or 3 hundred years). A visit to rural Wales is definitely on my bucket list.
perhaps we should offer non-welsh speakers a phonetic pronunciation of place names, it might help encourage the attempt to use the real names?
Brilliant report. So true that the history, the culture and the language must not disappear - it would truly be a tragedy to Cymru.
Rhaid i ni ddim colli yr hanes neu’r iaith 🏴
That ridiculous renaming must surely be stopped. It amounts to abuse. I was born and lived near Porth Trecastell; it and its headland with Neolithic Barclodiad y Gawres were my escape places. There were then also ravens. It was even then called Cable Bay and there was a cable marker in those times, a red lozenge on a pole near the western side in some way connected with Marconi, but that was really no excuse. This already old report has shocked me even though I was never able to return to live there.
The video makes me very homesick!
I love love love wales.
I am a Welch, I agree forever with you. Bless you. I am going to learn some of the languages a little at a time. 🙏
Yma O Hyd!!! /|\
Keep the welsh names. I walk around with Angharad as my RL first name in Australia I've always loved it. I've never wanted to change it. I do have a nickname but my real close family and friends say Angharad. I love it. My family don't speak Welsh so I don't know it. I can hear the accent a mile away I adore it. Wtf Lake Australia? Nope keep the real name. I actually live near Ebbw Vale in qld my husband says it the right way cos I told him but the news people can't.
Glyn Ebwy, I think, is the proper name, Ebbw Vale should be deleted
Ebbw vale!!! You hypocrite. Never wanna southie for pronunciation. Listen to South based biased Welsh news or that idiot fake South Walian woman Sally Boazman
Mewn geiriau Ralph Waldo Emerson, awdur, athronydd: Language is the archive of history.
Absolutely amazing
Just found out Tudur is no longer doing TV Rewind. Noooooooo!
There is literally no reason to have English spellings of Welsh towns.
Why change Wrecsam to Wrexham or Yr Wyddgrug to Mold.
English names for Welsh towns need to be scrapped
You do realise Wrecsam is Wrexham written in the Welsh alphabet? Wrexham is its original name.
Isn't it difficult for the Welsh people who don't speak Welsh ? . Why is not okay to have both spellings on road sounds etc as they currently have and as they do in Europe ? .I do agree that Welsh Names should not be lost.. I am confused as I felt they were not .
@@carolanquinn9204 I’m Welsh!I now live in England!Why isn’t there any Welsh spellings on your road signs?Are you so elitist that you think Wales should have English road signed in Wales?Listen to yourself Nazi!
@@carolanquinn9204 people should make an effort to learn the names/words, even if they can’t understand them there is no need to Anglicize our culture.
@@markjones336 LOL Why would we ? That's just daft.. We have more French people living here than Welsh. :Do you know how many different nations live in this country.. ? Hoe many bleedin' signs do you want ! LOL . And this is England so why not find a common language that everyone can speak ,, if you are living in that Country,learn that language .. If you go to Spain you should learn to speak Spanish.. However You wouldn't choose to learn Catalonian . Like Spain and other countries , Wales has Two languages.. Your argument is nuts !. and pretty selfish .
Learn Welsh pronunciations. The tutorials are on UA-cam
Sylvester would be just another angry cat without his lisp.