I would imagine it’s because his ‘savant’ level playing abilities and extremely hard work have funded one of the greatest historical collections of gear in history….people are jealous and mean spirited. Joe gets to be ‘a kid’ for his whole life…reliving some of the childhood he missed as a dedicated player. Everyone else has responsibilities and bills to pay. His music is also a ‘niche’ market, so not everyone is a fan.
I appreciate how good a player he is but his music leaves me cold for some reason. But I couldn’t hate the guy. A genuinely nice guy who’s really enthusiastic about music and gear.
I like Joe. Seems like a good dude, and can play his ass off. I must say, however, that his playing and singing style are not for me. As they said in the film Amadeus, “too many notes, your Majesty”.
That "hendrix tone on a budget vs the real deal" episode Joe did on reverb was the start of a new series, Im excited for this gibson vs epiphone video.
I think that the KFC sporks from the late '90s were the best. They sourced a higher grade plastic, and it really shows. Not to mention that, by 2002/03, the grips were thinner and the tines were narrower. Don't get me started on todays cheap import sporks. Sure, they look the part but, as we know, they are all show. Forget trying to take a large, robust bite of slaw. Now, in the late '90s, one could not only scoop a healthy amount of slaw but, due to the better action and grip feel of those classic sporks, mashed potatoes and gravy - like a LOT of gravy - was not a problem. I own two classic , late '90s sporks. My "daily driver" is a '97, black with the raised flange on the grip. She's a real beaut! I get a lot of compliments (and more than a few envious glares) whenever I take her out of the case. My real pride and joy (aside from my beautiful wife Maureen) is my '99. Yeah baby, that's right, a "Double Niner". Took me years to track a real one down. I ended up paying "real money" for it at an auction in Gobbler's Knob. I don't dare take this one out of the safe deposit box. She ( I named her Stormy) is my everything. I don't pass a stool without thinking of her. She has the most elegant curves, a generous bowl and sexy little tines; the perfect ratio of Sp to Ork.
Yeah the sporks today just don’t have that feel. My house once caught fire and my neighbors thought I was crazy running back into the house to get my old 94’ model. They just don’t know. Besides the obvious quality and craftsmanship back then it was also a priceless spork for sentimental reasons. I just graduated HS that year and my family saved up to get me that spork as a graduation present. There’s no way in hell I was just going to stand by and watch it melt away. I was able to rescue it and after being treated for smoke inhalation we were able to build our lives back together. It’s our 30th anniversary this year. Sure we’ve had our ups and downs (my brief affair with some exotic Panda Express chopsticks) but me and "Lucille” are still together to this day.
Great video. I'm a noob and can barely play a chord, but I love to see people with so much talent and experience in any industry still so passionate about it. Learning the guitar has taken me from being a passive listener of music to an active participant, and it's certainly given me a whole new perspective on what I now hear. Chapeau to people like Shifty who spend the time making videos like these, and JB for explaining it so well.
Gibson used to let Pete from Pete's Guitars in Saint Paul into their records. Pete had an amazing memory. At least I hope that is what is was. He is where I got a great deal of information about Gibson from in the 70's. Perhaps talking to people who knew him is a starting point to find the missing part of the 1959 information. I worked in a vintage guitar store from 1974 to 1981 and was a Picker until 1989 for another store. I think I remember your dad Joe.
@@Gabriel49718you’d be surprised, there’s a woman tone pedal, you know woman tone like the thing you can replicate by turning your tone knob down all the way
I absolutely love my 21 Les Paul Standard 50’s in Heritage Cherry Sunburst. Plug it directly into my Marshall DSL 40CR and sounds like a million bucks. It actually makes me sound better than i really am.
I agree with Joe, to a degree. I bought a 19 classic remotely. It came in and played great but it just sounded like a himbucker guitar. I changed all the hardware with period correct including bridge studs (required deeper drilling) and throbak pafs, vintage harness and now it it's the best lp I've ever owned. It has that "honk" that modern guitars seem to not have.
One of the most famous Gold Tops was Mick Ronson’s which wasn’t a Gold Top in fact he stripped the paint off and it was a wood top although in old footage it certainly looks gold.
To me, the big difference between '58 and '59 is the move to larger frets. It's a completely different instrument. The humbucking goldtops and '58s are great, but the larger frets make the latter guitars so much easier to play.
I've got a £300 epi les paul with a £250 set of low output paf's and I can't imagine ever selling it for a Gibson. It holds its own against my mates £2500 Gibson whenever we jam together
I've got push pull pots in both pickups aswell for putting either pickup in parallel wiring, so much more versatility than any expensive stock Gibson can offer.
While it is indeed true that THE PLAYER is the main ingredient for great tone, considering the guitar, TUBE amp, and pedal are at least pretty good..........but there's simply no denying the build quality, tone, and sustain of those '58, '59', and 60 Gibson's with those original PAF's. ..........but even then, so long as it isn't "a dud" with say: bad pickups. It's the clean tones and even the moderately driven tones that sets those old guitars & pickups apart from the new guitars. Hell, back in 1990, I got REALLY lucky while shopping for a real Gibson LP Standard ( new or used ). I had adopted a method of demo'ing every Gibson LP Standard new & used, in 3 different counties here in east/central Florida by ONLY playing them UN-PLUGGED in a quiet room. I had narrowed my search down to 3, when it happened: I stumbled across an old '77 LP Standard with flamed sunburst top. The LP's from that era are generally known as "shit guitars".........BUT NOT THIS ONE. It was incredibly light for starters, and the instant I strummed a few chords ( good thing it had decent strings ), 6 of us in the store just stared at each other saying: "WOW!!!". I mean that thing sang like a songbird.....again: totally unplugged. For some reason, it blew away everything else new or used. The tuners had been replaced with Grover's and they were already worn out. The lead pickup didn't work at all. But I didn't care. We slapped some newer Grover's on it, and a Seymour Duncan "59" in the lead position, and literally every guitarist in my entire area went crazy over it. And to be a '77........it just shocked everyone, including me. Like an idiot, I eventually sold it some years later. Sure wish I still had it now.
The 59 I played was meh, the 60 I played was actually awesome. The 59 might have just needed a setup but the 60 felt like a great guitar where the 59 felt like a 59 year old piece of wood. Which at the time is exactly what it was.
9 to 12 lbs of glorious 'tone wood'. We like what we like and we hate what we hate. It's all based on mimetic desire and nothing to do with 'the sound'.@@pandaman1968
I have 2023 Les Paul Standard that doesn’t feel much heavier than my Telecaster and it’s well balanced too. Altough I have tried Les Pauls that feel really heavy so it really seems to be matter of individual guitars.
That's what always makes me laugh, people want to learn guitar and go spend a fortune on one thinking it will somehow magically make them a great player. The guitar is important but you need to know how to play it otherwise the guitar doesn't matter. It is always interesting to see videos of people playing "cheap " Epiphones yet getting great sound - a quality guitar is a quality guitar, a good player will know how to get the most out of it. I know as I am not a great player - I can't make mine sound good no matter what I do 😂
Any old clown with an ounce of taste can pluck more interesting and usable tones out of a 90$ Harley Benton than Chris or Joe ever have with their ridiculously overpriced planks of wood
True words. Thats all HocuPocus the whole 58-60 thing........The mindis playing a huge factor there....... Owned a 59 and I played Les Pauls Standards that are as good or even better. Its all in your mind. And not worth that money. Buy a nice house with that money not a old Les paul.
I never understood the JB hate, even if you can’t stand his music, you have to admire his pure passion and dedication to the instrument.
I would imagine it’s because his ‘savant’ level playing abilities and extremely hard work have funded one of the greatest historical collections of gear in history….people are jealous and mean spirited. Joe gets to be ‘a kid’ for his whole life…reliving some of the childhood he missed as a dedicated player. Everyone else has responsibilities and bills to pay. His music is also a ‘niche’ market, so not everyone is a fan.
I rarely see any hate. 🤷♂️
I appreciate how good a player he is but his music leaves me cold for some reason. But I couldn’t hate the guy. A genuinely nice guy who’s really enthusiastic about music and gear.
You're right, Jeff Beck is a timeless legend. Not sure about the other JB guy
I like Joe. Seems like a good dude, and can play his ass off. I must say, however, that his playing and singing style are not for me. As they said in the film Amadeus, “too many notes, your Majesty”.
That "hendrix tone on a budget vs the real deal" episode Joe did on reverb was the start of a new series, Im excited for this gibson vs epiphone video.
Nice clip.
I can tell you, Joe, is not only a world class player, but also a very down to earth guy.
I think that the KFC sporks from the late '90s were the best. They sourced a higher grade plastic, and it really shows. Not to mention that, by 2002/03, the grips were thinner and the tines were narrower. Don't get me started on todays cheap import sporks. Sure, they look the part but, as we know, they are all show. Forget trying to take a large, robust bite of slaw. Now, in the late '90s, one could not only scoop a healthy amount of slaw but, due to the better action and grip feel of those classic sporks, mashed potatoes and gravy - like a LOT of gravy - was not a problem. I own two classic , late '90s sporks. My "daily driver" is a '97, black with the raised flange on the grip. She's a real beaut! I get a lot of compliments (and more than a few envious glares) whenever I take her out of the case. My real pride and joy (aside from my beautiful wife Maureen) is my '99. Yeah baby, that's right, a "Double Niner". Took me years to track a real one down. I ended up paying "real money" for it at an auction in Gobbler's Knob. I don't dare take this one out of the safe deposit box. She ( I named her Stormy) is my everything. I don't pass a stool without thinking of her. She has the most elegant curves, a generous bowl and sexy little tines; the perfect ratio of Sp to Ork.
Yeah the sporks today just don’t have that feel. My house once caught fire and my neighbors thought I was crazy running back into the house to get my old 94’ model. They just don’t know. Besides the obvious quality and craftsmanship back then it was also a priceless spork for sentimental reasons. I just graduated HS that year and my family saved up to get me that spork as a graduation present. There’s no way in hell I was just going to stand by and watch it melt away. I was able to rescue it and after being treated for smoke inhalation we were able to build our lives back together. It’s our 30th anniversary this year. Sure we’ve had our ups and downs (my brief affair with some exotic Panda Express chopsticks) but me and "Lucille” are still together to this day.
Great video. I'm a noob and can barely play a chord, but I love to see people with so much talent and experience in any industry still so passionate about it.
Learning the guitar has taken me from being a passive listener of music to an active participant, and it's certainly given me a whole new perspective on what I now hear. Chapeau to people like Shifty who spend the time making videos like these, and JB for explaining it so well.
Gibson used to let Pete from Pete's Guitars in Saint Paul into their records. Pete had an amazing memory. At least I hope that is what is was. He is where I got a great deal of information about Gibson from in the 70's. Perhaps talking to people who knew him is a starting point to find the missing part of the 1959 information. I worked in a vintage guitar store from 1974 to 1981 and was a Picker until 1989 for another store. I think I remember your dad Joe.
Thank you both.
My two favorite performers are on one podcast. Life could not get any better today. awesome thanks
Bloody legends talking.......love this
My favorite Joe quote: he points to the control knobs on the Les Paul he's holding and says, "These are on here for a reason."
What would we do without his infinite wisdom?
@@Gabriel49718you’d be surprised, there’s a woman tone pedal, you know woman tone like the thing you can replicate by turning your tone knob down all the way
how can this be you favorite quote, come on man
@@Angel-fz8dr Think about it.
@@Angel-fz8dr because many modern guitarists are pedal lazy
Love this its great to hear his knowlege all about guitars. He is genius!
Really enjoyed this episode. Joe’s a monster, and I love his historian knowledge of guitar.
I absolutely love my 21 Les Paul Standard 50’s in Heritage Cherry Sunburst. Plug it directly into my Marshall DSL 40CR and sounds like a million bucks. It actually makes me sound better than i really am.
Love getting this knowledge!
I agree with Joe, to a degree. I bought a 19 classic remotely. It came in and played great but it just sounded like a himbucker guitar.
I changed all the hardware with period correct including bridge studs (required deeper drilling) and throbak pafs, vintage harness and now it it's the best lp I've ever owned.
It has that "honk" that modern guitars seem to not have.
Such a nice guy and a great resource for anything guitar related. Thx
Guitar in his hands under his command produces what none other can or will do.
Love these videos thank you
damn I cant believe its literally you! Hellll yea, love to see some spicy CONTENT lets gooo
Joe nerding out on guitars is my jam
Tobacco sunburst AAA top amazing!!!
Smokin Joe B. ,Mr .Les Paul himself. I could imagine his guitar collection.
Joe is the burst
One of the most famous Gold Tops was Mick Ronson’s which wasn’t a Gold Top in fact he stripped the paint off and it was a wood top although in old footage it certainly looks gold.
Is this part of a bigger interview that isn’t released yet? Hope so
Yeah shred with shifty is out later today
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Cheers 👍🏻
To me, the big difference between '58 and '59 is the move to larger frets. It's a completely different instrument. The humbucking goldtops and '58s are great, but the larger frets make the latter guitars so much easier to play.
Bello/Magnifico.💥💥💥💥💥💥🧨
Joe ,s sutch a great guy to hear talk guitar.
Contemplated getting expensive pups for my Epiphone LP but I may spend £300 and it sounds almost the same.
I've got a £300 epi les paul with a £250 set of low output paf's and I can't imagine ever selling it for a Gibson. It holds its own against my mates £2500 Gibson whenever we jam together
I've got push pull pots in both pickups aswell for putting either pickup in parallel wiring, so much more versatility than any expensive stock Gibson can offer.
Fun fact.. a brand LP does the same things a burst does 👍🏻
im sure he knows but he didnt mention that they changed the fretwire at some point in 59 too
He should use a Studio into Hot Rod Deluxe to rule the world.
While it is indeed true that THE PLAYER is the main ingredient for great tone, considering the guitar, TUBE amp, and pedal are at least pretty good..........but there's simply no denying the build quality, tone, and sustain of those '58, '59', and 60 Gibson's with those original PAF's. ..........but even then, so long as it isn't "a dud" with say: bad pickups. It's the clean tones and even the moderately driven tones that sets those old guitars & pickups apart from the new guitars. Hell, back in 1990, I got REALLY lucky while shopping for a real Gibson LP Standard ( new or used ). I had adopted a method of demo'ing every Gibson LP Standard new & used, in 3 different counties here in east/central Florida by ONLY playing them UN-PLUGGED in a quiet room. I had narrowed my search down to 3, when it happened: I stumbled across an old '77 LP Standard with flamed sunburst top. The LP's from that era are generally known as "shit guitars".........BUT NOT THIS ONE. It was incredibly light for starters, and the instant I strummed a few chords ( good thing it had decent strings ), 6 of us in the store just stared at each other saying: "WOW!!!". I mean that thing sang like a songbird.....again: totally unplugged. For some reason, it blew away everything else new or used. The tuners had been replaced with Grover's and they were already worn out. The lead pickup didn't work at all. But I didn't care. We slapped some newer Grover's on it, and a Seymour Duncan "59" in the lead position, and literally every guitarist in my entire area went crazy over it. And to be a '77........it just shocked everyone, including me. Like an idiot, I eventually sold it some years later. Sure wish I still had it now.
I thought Slash gave that 58 burst, back to Joe Perry?
Perry originally sold it when Aerosmith hit hard times in the early 80’s.
The 59 I played was meh, the 60 I played was actually awesome. The 59 might have just needed a setup but the 60 felt like a great guitar where the 59 felt like a 59 year old piece of wood. Which at the time is exactly what it was.
Yeah, I know Joe, Epiphone is charging Gibson prices now to boot!
Those things are too beastly heavy to enjoy playing.
9 to 12 lbs of glorious 'tone wood'. We like what we like and we hate what we hate. It's all based on mimetic desire and nothing to do with 'the sound'.@@pandaman1968
I have 2023 Les Paul Standard that doesn’t feel much heavier than my Telecaster and it’s well balanced too. Altough I have tried Les Pauls that feel really heavy so it really seems to be matter of individual guitars.
There was a LP custom in sweetwater recently that was 7 lbs
Joe forgot about the "mojo" on old guitars..
That's what always makes me laugh, people want to learn guitar and go spend a fortune on one thinking it will somehow magically make them a great player. The guitar is important but you need to know how to play it otherwise the guitar doesn't matter. It is always interesting to see videos of people playing "cheap " Epiphones yet getting great sound - a quality guitar is a quality guitar, a good player will know how to get the most out of it. I know as I am not a great player - I can't make mine sound good no matter what I do 😂
Joe says "If it's old, it's better. That's not true". OK. Then why do you only play vintage instruments?
So why doe Joe spend stupid money on these guitars if an Epiphone does the same thing.
Because Joe has stupid money & he's as big an equipment nerd as anyone in the business.
Why do people collect rare coins? Because they want to.
Because he can.
How many times did Joe say I'm a collector or I'm a custodian of these
Because he can and you can’t is prolly the simplest answer
'Promosm'
Sometimes it’s not the Arrow, its the Indian…
Joe telling us new LP is just as good as vintage LP... while he only plays vintage. 🤔
Why doe??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's the Indian not the arrow...
JB blabla...
Can’t stand bonamassa, I find him to be, overbearing, pretentious and
annoying.
Yup
Any old clown with an ounce of taste can pluck more interesting and usable tones out of a 90$ Harley Benton than Chris or Joe ever have with their ridiculously overpriced planks of wood
True words. Thats all HocuPocus the whole 58-60 thing........The mindis playing a huge factor there.......
Owned a 59 and I played Les Pauls Standards that are as good or even better. Its all in your mind. And not worth that money. Buy a nice house with that money not a old Les paul.