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Difficult Guinea Pig Bonding: Spayed Female/Intact Male
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- Опубліковано 14 лют 2017
- They are not living together yet. She still jumped him not long after the final clip, so ended intros for the day.
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I was watching this and both my girls came out of their beds and looked around trying to find the other piggies lol
Ashley Pike Ha Ha Same Thing Happened With My Boys
Ashley Pike as i watched this all my piggies got excited and popcorned and started searching for where the noises came from.
Your videos are always amazing and you post very regularly. You're definitely a great UA-camr and I appreciate all your videos:) they are both informative and entertaining. Also I'm so happy there are people like you who rescue so many animals in need! You are such a kind soul
Thank you so much!
So cute! I wish you the best of luck with their bonding!💖💖💖
Great video! It truly shows the tough side of piggy pairing. I hope they will settle eventually and live together in peace. I feel bad for Bullseye cause he was there first, but it looks like he will have to end up playing second piggy.
People who are concerned about the piggies being stressed out should watch her " normal bonding behaviours" video. She knows what she is doing and rest assured these piggies are safe. It's better for her to attempt a bond then to have lone piggies ( with the exception of Calvin, but as I said she knows what she is doing and made the right call in regards to her little senior baby). I don't have piggies but I do have bunnies 🐰, and bonding can be very similar. She will know in a few days whether or not this bond is likely to turn out.
I appreciate that. It is never fun to watch them be stressed but it happens, the quad was the same, lots of scary things going on and now are happy pigs.
lol sorry but I have to say this but this video was uploaded on my birthday lol be but also I love ur channel skinny pigs1 Even though I don't have piggies i still love just watching ur channel just cause I love animals idk why I haven't subbed in all so I'mma subscribe to ur channel it's obvious how much u love your piggies and your bunny 😸😊
Very interesting to watch, thanks for sharing.
You are amazing :) it looks really good :) but of course it is always a bit scary but it looks as a normal bonding :)
Your skinny pigs are so cute!!!!
Bonding can be such a tricky business cant it?! It took me a year to get my bunnies to finally realise they actually liked each other lol. Best of luck! xx
Yes! Can be so frustrating. You never know what will happen. Have had some of the easiest pairings and others are like pulling teeth.
Yasssss I'm early that hasn't happened in a while 😂😂
Come on Bullseye and Nanook you can work this out! Nanook is such a bossy little lady haha. Fingers crossed they can sort out their differences and live together happily x
Thanks, I hope so too!
Sending love and peace for the piggies
Is it getting better than before? Both of them are so cute!
Yes, before was just constant chattering and everytime Nanook was near Bullseye she would jump at him. So I cut out a lot of footage where they were just eating or she was laying down. So they are doing a lot better, still not ideal but will keep working at letting them trust.
Poor piggies,bonding can be difficult sometimes if the piggies don't let it happen skinnypigs hugs
Great video, very educational! As someone who has done multiple bondings with guinea pigs and rabbits this is just how bonding goes! Sometimes you get lucky and someone submits easily but you definitely have two very dominant piggies there. Nanook needs Bulls to submit and Bulls won't back off. Sometimes piggies and buns need to go on multiple 'dates' before they can be at peace together and figure out one another. Keep with it and I'm sure that you will have success! :)
I hope this will work out eventually!
Abby, that was so stressful for me to watch, I can't imagine how it was for you. I bet your heart was beating a mile a minute.
Nanook is such a beautiful little lady but it's obvious that she isn't going to back down to anyone.
I really hope that they can work out their difference and become good friends.
You can see that Bullseye really wants to have a companion.
I did cut out a lot of them just eating, so wasn't always terrible but I put in the intense moments to show viewers a tough bonding time. She definitely will not back down one bit, I really hope soon Bullseye understands that he just needs to show her he will listen. They both hangout side by side in their cage (divide of grids). Eat together, sleep near and sniff noses all the time, so they both do like companionship, I just think right now they are locking heads, but it does look like Bullseye will back down, he doesn't want to fight.
Was watching this in my office/ guinea pig room and my male Marvin was making upset squeaks and chattering along to Bullseye. I decided to go get some earphones to avoid freakish him out anymore
I've been having trouble bounding my two females . One is fine but the elder won't leave her be non stop teeth chattering and dominance mounting . what can I do to assist the transition
Seems so stressful for them ...... and I can sense it is for you too. I hope they can work out their differences
Was the same stress for the quad too and now they are happy together, never is much fun bonding.
I've been having trouble bonding my neutered male and intact female together. The male just doesn't seem to leave her alone. Any tips or ideas on how to help them bond?
It is normal for the male to be annoying, that passes with time. As long as they are not fighting, all behaviours are normal.
okay so here is my story. i adopted 2 piggies and one came pregnant..i had no clue. so i was surprised one morning with babies. well the 2 females i adopted are sisters. they got along great. i eventually had to separate my other adult female from her sister and 2 babies because one of the babies was a boy and he was only about 3 1/2 weeks old but wouldn't stop trying to mount the adult female. so i separated her from the herd overnight until i found a home for the male baby. i tried to reunite the 2 sisters and the baby female..well the two sisters started teeth chattering after i started the reintroduction on nuetral geoubd outside the c&c cage. they ended up chasing eachother and fought. i noticed blood and separated the two with a towel i put on top of them. i removed the moma piggy and sge had two deep puncture wounds on her back. so i made another c&c cage and kept her sister away while she healed. i kept trying to reintroduce them every couple days with no luck. litterally teeth chattered immediately and went for eachother..no backing down. food didnt distract them. as soon as they were within eye sight they would lunge for the other. i am not sure what to do to reunite the sisters. i want to combine the two 2x5 cages into one big one but cant get those two to get along. i have recently adopted a very young pig who gets along with the moma and baby and gets along with my single female but the two sisters keep going into attack mode immediately. my single female does pretty well with new baby piggy but is dominabt in cage..lots of chasing and had to add second litter box and more hides because the adult female wouldnt let little piggy in litter box or hides or to get hay. i recently had to separate new piggy from single female due to uri so had to quarantine her and treat her. had a play date today for the single piggy and little piggy and they were so happy pretty much no dominance. going to keep doing play dates outside of cage so my single piggy can have a friend. my ultimate goal is to have all piggies in one big c&c cage.. if only two sisters would just get along. any help would be greatly appreciated
I have 13 in the herd. I found it worked faster when I put them all together. I think it brings out their herding instincts and it made the bonding more effevtive. They were busy watch inch each other and therefore did not concentrate one one in particular.
They are not going into a herd, just trying to bond as a pair :)
Do you find that your piggies don't eat the treats specially made for guinea pigs? I've bought 3 different kind to give them as a treat, and they all just sit there until I throw them out. Just curious to k ow your experience with the store bought treats.
GioTheJedi Abby doesn't feed store bought treats. Just high quality hay, pellets and fresh veggies.
Lorranne Depeche thanks !! Well then maybe it's a good
Thing mine won't eat them. Are they bad for them? I give them fresh veggies,
Store bought Timothy hay, and pellets daily. I do give them occasional allowed fruit. Just wanted to spice it up for them a little. But they said no way mom.
GioTheJedi To be honest i am not sure if they are bad. I'm sure they aren't too healthy. I don't have guinea pigs because i'm allergic to hay. I just love Abby's videos!
Tried some store bought treats, they weren't too excited. It seems fresh veggies are the best treats.
My guinea pigs go crazy when I give them some goji berries :), not sure how much they can eat though, I try not to give them too many
Lukáš Kotásek my piggies go crazy for bell peppers!! They absolutely love them. I'll have to try the berries you've suggested. Thank you!
Why does Bullseye get so worked up when nanook comes close? Is he protecting his personal space? Thanks, I'm just curious
He is nervous, doesn't know what she will do. They don't trust each other yet.
skinnypigs1 Oh okay, makes sense now! Thank you
Were you ever able to get them bonded and living together?
I've had my guinea pigs for about a year now, and I was told that they were both boys. But I'm starting to think that they are not intact males, because I've seen lots of pictures of male guinea pigs backsides, and my boys do not look like other males. I'm sure they're males, because I looked online and learned how to check, and checked myself. How would I know if they are intact or not? I'm a bit confused.
Girl Anonymous intact males have really evident testicals from a young age.
My experience of piggies is zero; can you tell me why it wouldn't be appropriate for Bullseye to be "fixed"? Are skinny pigs more likely to have heart issues? Sorry if this is a daft question
He has a chronic GI issue.
Of course, I remember now. Thanks
have you tried a bonding bath with them?? or is it still too soon?
No I have not, just would be hard to still keep bonding while Nanook needs to dry, since Bullseye is hairless.
Good grief! Poor bullseye got himself so worked up. Hope they work it out soon x
He is a high strung boy! I hope with a few more dates, he will get even calmer, they are way better than the first time.
skinnypigs1 yay! Thats great news! I just wanna cuddle them instead of letting them work it out. Well done for sticking with it. X
so i have had my 2 guinea pigs for a month and they still dont like being held or let us pet them. we dont hold them often because they get so scared but i do make sure to hand feed them and they will eat out of my hand. is this normal? any tips would be greatly appreciated
skinnypigs1 thank you for replying! is there anything i should he doing different? should i be picking them up more? i dont often because i dont want to scare them
If you do take them out make sure it is together, maybe in a blanket so they feel secure, with some veggie treats. You can do that daily, just for short periods of time until they get a bit calmer. It does help for them to get used to you.
skinnypigs1 okey! we have tried that but they seem to want to bolt. i was thinking maybe floor time will help too?
what is a good website to get stuff for my pigs i need to buy fleece it has to be cheap and i live in usa
I just made that video, is the newest one.
ok thank
hi Abby,have you tried sitting in with them & cuddling them together for a while? it worked for my 4 boys & they are as happy as can be all living together! I hope they work things out x
I did last night for about 5-10 minutes with lettuce, so will keep trying that.
skinnypigs1 cool,it'll be luvly to see them as a happy couple! x
Poor Bullseye, he seems really afraid.
Lukáš Kotásek i agree - he seems terrified. Is it him doing the chattering??
Same stuff happened with the quad and they are happy now, bonding sucks and not always is enjoyable to watch that is for sure.
This is typical behaviour during a bond as they sort out who is going to be the dominant piggy of the group. You will usually have lots of rumbling, chattering, mounting, nipping, lunging and yawning as they establish their pecking order. It is unnerving and isn't always fun but necessary to get through so they can happily live together. :)
thanks
BudgetBunny tbh I let my piggies do it through a fence for a week then I put them out for floor time. They did great. Put them together and a fight happened over a house. A lip got busted. Ever since that they were fine though. I did have to remove the huts they had though. Now I use cuddle cups and curtains. But yeah
He seems so stressed, just want to pick him up and cuddle him! Poor babies!
Same stress happened with the quad. Bonding guinea pigs is really not fun to watch sometimes. I am right there with him watching and not letting him get hurt.
I figured you were watching closely. Just wanted to send him some love from AZ.
Thanks!
Maybe try putting something he can hide in when she keeps bullying him? Or try putting something of his that has his smell and also putting something of hers with her smell in together with them. Or maybe just putting something of each of their smells in each other's cages that they can investigate and check out when they want
Cassandra Stierheim I think in one of her other recent videos she does mention swapping their beds in their own cages and that they didn't seem to mind having someone else's bed....
Was Bullseye scared/unsure of Butterscotch Ripple at first too? I know she was a lot more timid. He seems so petrified, & Nanook just seems to be eating. I don't see her really doing anything mean. Maybe I'm missing something.
She is posturing big time, puffing up and trying to get him to listen to her. He is standing his ground a lot, not being submissive and Nanook is a boss. So they both are clashing because both of them do not want to back down. He was not scared of Butters because she was a shy and timid girl, just ran from him for a few days. Nanook is a very head strong lady and Bullseye does not want to give in and knows she will jump him, so that is why he is nervous but he still will not give up.
skinnypigs1 Are they both wheeking? I thought it was just Bullseye. I'm so confused over the boss thing. I only have one pig, but am looking for a friend for her. I've put it off because in her last home she didn't get along with the others, & that is why the lady was rehoming her. So by him "backing down" does she want him to be quiet, & not rumble?
Bullseye is doing a high pitch talk. She wants him to back down as in when she steps towards him, she wants him to step back. She wants to be able to make him move out of a spot she wants to go, basically just to listen to her and not try and defend his zone. He is standing his ground when she goes up close to him to challenge, he won't move, so that is him saying no, you move. A boss wants the other pig to get out of the way when they say. It all depends on personalities and how you do introductions.
skinnypigs1 I got a little piggie tonight ❤ I think my older pig is happy to have a friend. I'm just going to watch them closely. Thanks for your advice!
If you need some help my guinea pigs bonded over a big igloo that fit all three of them.
Has Bullseye always been the dominate pig in all of hie other pairings? If he was that could be why he is having such a hard time submitting to Nanook.
He has only been with Butterscotch before and she was the boss of him, but he was always lingering on the edge of wanting to be. They never got into a fight though. Butters was a much gentler boss, Nanook is not having anyone stand up to her.
Well I'm sure that gives you some hope knowing hes worked things out with bossy lady before lol. I was wondering if you've ever worked with bonding 'teenage' boars before? I had two boars (both intact) successfully paired together. My older piggie was 1 1/2 yrs old and I paired him with a 6 week old baby. Everything went perfect and now that the baby pig is 7 months old he started to pick fights. They fought to the point that I separated them (each boy had a small cut on their mouth). My supplies for a much larger cage (4 x 3 or 5 x 2) Is coming in tomorrow and I will be reintroducing them with together. I know about buddy baths and making sure the new area dosen't have any scents. I do have enough grids to have them simply living side by side but my hope is to rebond them do you have tips or tricks?
He is going to have to let her be alpha, he's totally freaked out and marking. I wonder if he thinks she is much bigger because of her fluff.
Jenni Brown possibly ha. I have some experience with skinnys and they are funny little things! The adoption agency I get my pigs from I think is called Small angel rescue or something and they spread the pigs out to foster homes and the foster that gets all the skinnys happends to be close to me. She is a skinny God hah, knows everything. She said huinea pigs think they look like their partner. I have a black one and a white one, so my white one thinks she's black and my black one thinks she's white! Haha!
He could, she looks really intimidating puffed up! I hope he will just give up next time and let her be the boss.
I think Bullseye is mostly just horny and wants to get close. But at the same time he doesn't dare to, because he is afraid of her.
When he calms down it should be way better.
skinnypigs1 hopefully!
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