“Next on Island of Love, can Gary and Stan work things out? Have they met their match? Stay tuned and find out on Island of Love” the audience is like the Wheel of fortune as in they are also the pool of contestants.
I like this video because it shows negative behavior too. Too often you will see one of these videos of a pair of bonded pigs and they don't show you any of the negative behavior.
Princess Cheap I agree and wouldn’t bond these two for not wanting Sushi to live in such guarded oppression the rest of his life. Just my opinion.🤷🏻♀️
@@BobbyGeee this behavior is normal and will pass though. My girls did this for maybe 20 minutes and then it never happened again and they are the sweetest pair. 🤷🏼♀️
@@BobbyGeee This is normal behaviour. It may look upsetting to humans but for guinea pigs this is just normal submissive behaviour, you'll get this with every introduction. It will most likely calm down once they're together for a while. It's not oppressive it's just the way guinea pigs are.
I have my pigs on the coffee table regularly with zero fence around it, not once have they ever fallen off and even if they did, they are hardy and wouldn't bother them much, at all.
You could've done without what comment??? I can say anything I want Im not insulting anyone besides Saskia is the one that matters to me and if she didn't like my comment she would be the one saying something.In fact the fance had me nervous again nothing wrong with what I said.
Leyani Viera she knows what she’s doing, she’s right there monitoring I think it should be fine. Pigs don’t go jumping off high things very often anyway.
I love watching the way they interact, the body language, the sounds, going back and forth. I think for a good bonding its a matter of finding 2 boars with the exact same temperament so that neither one is overly dominant or submissive. I think then they just decide to call a truce and live in peace. The little "punch" you mentioned made me laugh because my one girl does that to me when she doesn't like what I'm doing, usually cleaning her cage, she's very possessive of her 💩💩 and gets mad when I take it away. Weirdo.
Just like people, personality clashes happen and there are some people you just can't get along with no matter how hard you try. There are also good matches where you just click, too. So I see it like that 😊
Seeing this makes it all the more clearer that I made the right choice when I kept 2 of my girls separated from my other girls. The two alpha females went into a full on tussle flying at each other in a fury, and both of them bit the other. I tried a few more times with different approaches but it was clear that they were absolutely out for blood and hated each other. Really sad. However, I have them each in a midwest side by side, with a wooden "fence" between them. They actually lay next to each other sometimes on each side of the fence, which is hilarious. Just don't remove that fence....lol!
I was wondering about this. I recently got 2 sister piggies from the shelter. We built a huge cage, so I want to rescue another girl. I would keep her separate at first, but if I got a young one do you think the chances are good they would become friends? The 2 I have are 8 months old.
I introduced my one year old male, (Bean) to my six month old male, (Coco) There was humping for only about five minutes and my six month old let it happen. They are best friends now! Bean is like Cocos father ❤️
i remember we just put them in the cage and the new one was mounted like ten times then when we let them eat a pile of grass together they immediately snuggled up after a huge feast haha
Geo sarks well i had two rabbits so it might be best to ask a vet but from what i know it completely calms their hormones and so they're less likely to attack each other. please do ask though but i would highly recommend however as i said, it's true for bunnies so i don't really know how well they cope under anaesthetic. otherwise, something that is recommended for bonding rabbits is to take them for a drive together as it's quite stressful and they're more likely to use each other as comfort, but again please double check as i don't know how the pigs would handle being in a car. i hope this helped though
As someone who definitely has experience with bonding piggies I agree 100% with Saskia. I however use a dust pan folks I HAVE PERSONALLY BEEN BIT WHILE SEPERATING 2 MALES it was lighting quick I did it with out thinking and 6 HOURS IN THE ER AND SEVERAL STICHES ON MY FINGER shewwww ALWAYS BE ON GUARD when doing this. USE THAT DUSTPAN GUYS as a barrier. I would try a younger boar with him myself. That smell is like Skunking each other YASSSS it stinks.
@@LosAngelesGuineaPigRescue my pet store only sells male rodents and i was wondering if i buy two males from the same litter will they be okay when they grow up?
Matshapiri Males forever in my experience we got two males who are litter mates when they were babies, and one ended up slicing the others eye open. he’s okay now though, but we ended up having to separate them. so honestly you never know
I discovered you through the dodo and my mom actually used to teach at a school near your rescue in chatsworth. But my aunt rescues guinea pigs in ridgecrest CA. So i have had little guys like this for years. I just wanted to say thank you for showing people how to care for them and how they are as pets. So many kids get them and don’t treat them well. I seriously loved mine. I had 3 named named Harry Ron and Hermione. I appreciate the time you’ve spent learning about them and the fact you sometimes know more than vets about their behaviors! Keep up the great work and I’m definitely donating to this because you’re doing great work.
Saskia from Los Angeles Guinea Pig Rescue you’re very welcome! i got a few things off your amazon wish list so they are on their way! i got two bottles of the eye ointment and a bottle of the vitamin C. Hope that helps keep these little guys healthy!
I am so lucky, I used to have a male trio that didn't work out (two of the boys were fighting the third one, but they were all completely fine in any kinds of pairs with eachoter) But then hen I had another trio with 3 different male piggies, they never fought. One of them passed, I adopted two more and now I have 4 males together. It's all about their personality.
:/ they're just animals tho. They act more on animal instinct. If humans (animals) got at their extreme low points, where if you had to kill another one, in order to survive, you'd prob do it too. I'm not trying to be edgy, I'm js. Maybe even cannibalize. Animals are prob on constant survival mode. They only learn how to be more compassionate towards humans, once a human enters their lives. Their instincts only tend to drop more once you put food into the equation. But lucky for you, g. pigs are vegans.
The best situation is when you have 2 (or more) brothers. That's my case, we have 2 🤭 They were born at ~ same time => no fighting, instant friendship, happy fellows 😍 Well, they still chatter and one of them is dominant, but hey, they don't ever fight!
Yes!! I am waiting till we have better lighting and then was thinking of doing one every month so you can all see how many new pigs there are each month. We adopt out 30 / 35 guinea pigs each week.
I absolutely love everything you all do at the rescue, you all are amazing! Your videos are very educational and I look forward to your videos! Thank you for helping all these piggies! Love you Saskia!! I wish I lived closer to California so I could come and adopt a piggie or 2 or 3.
my guinea pigs, who are brothers so have been together at birth have recently been doing a lot of teeth chattering at the moment, it hasn’t gone to far yet but i’m going to bond them with each other again just to see what happens. can anybody help me, how do i get them to be friendly to one another again???
I had boys only for 5 years now. Did the bonding game countless times. some boys couples lasted for months before falling apart regardless of age some didn't last more than a day and some stays friends forever. Always in large c&c cages with plenty of everything to avoid arguments. One of my single boys, Harry always plays submissive for a week and after that time turns dominant and aggressive, never lasted longer than 2 weeks with any friend. My way for single boys is massive c&c cage split in the middle so each boy can have neighbour to talk to and share meals with while keeping his own territory, All are calm and happy. Good luck with Your piggie bonding and don't give up one them to quickly. Sending loads of love to all L.A. Guinea pigs and their amazing care takers.
Also, I always like to remind people that with boys, the first week may very well be like this as they get to know each other. But with patience, two strangers can become fast friends.
4 Years in the future, knowing that things taking more than a few days is very reassuring. After always having prebonded pairs, I now have two Guinea pigs I have to bond. They met each other four days ago, and are still chattering a bit and chasing each other around.
So I have a adult male guinea pig and I recently got a baby male guinea pig , right now they are in the quarantine stage. But every time I have them together for floor time my adult guinea pig purs and circles around the baby , almost reminds me of a mating dance. Is this normal ? Should I continue to try to make them bond , or is this not normal behavior ?
Would definitely recommend lots of hay and veggies already in the bonding enclosure before putting the pigs together. Two way tunnels, or a place for the submissive pig to kind of back off from the stress periodically throughout the bonding experience is important too.
Hi! I have only 2 boys and I am trying to bond them. The bonding is like the first one. We can't get another pig. Should they live alone and separated from each other?
Everyone who is bringing a single boy or who wants to pair up two of our boys should watch this video. I can't tell you how many times I have tried to explain that a bonding was going well and people project their human emotions onto it and insist that I break the pair up. This is why we book adoption appointments for an hour--it takes that long to determine if it's a match! :)
Thank you so much for this video! I adopted a single boy from our shelter a year ago. I recently bought him a larger cage and wanted to adopt another boy to hopefully have a bonded pair of boys. Success! The shelter had another single boy that I adopted last week. Using your bonding method the boys bonded and are doing great! They are both so happy to have a friend. Thank you for your detailed videos!
Your videos have helped me so much. I had guinea pigs growing up (one at a time) but now that I’m older I’ve relied on your channel so much for giving my boar the best life. A few days ago I got him a brother and have been using your channel as a basis for my introduction. Been keeping them separate but today put them in a play pen to see how things went. Your advice taught me what was normal and what behaviors to look out for. Thank you!
Baby boys are always a great match up to 6 -7 weeks old. But this doesn't mean that they will continue to get along. It does sometimes happen that they will start squabbling when the baby becomes a teenager.
My older guinea did the nonstop humping to my new guinea boy for almost two weeks. I was starting to get worried they weren't gonna work or start to fight because i heard a lot of teeth chattering from both but after a LOOOOONG long time, they are now the best of buds and the older one even feels like he has to "protect" the baby when i go get them from the cage
My boys don't get along with each other at all. I put a cage divider between them, but they want to beat each other up every time they get close to each other.
Great video saskia!! I’m loving how you’re handling the piggies...I’m getting guinea pigs soon and I was wondering if some people like you could subscribe to me and give me info along the way of just support for fun 🥰😂🤩
I currently have two guinea pigs that have recently started fighting badly. They often leave bite marks on each other but luckily they haven't blood. I have kept them separated for this reason and I'm worried that if I keep them alone it will be unhealthy for them since guinea pigs require other guinea pigs around them. I am kind of surprised because they had been getting along before and suddenly they are fighting. I'm not sure what to do can anyone help?
Saskia, if you are in the habit of putting that collapsable fence on that table, maybe you could build a lightweight rectangular frame to put around the base to keep its form , then you can just tuck it behind a shelf somewhere when you arent using it. Cheap pinewood or schedule 40 pvc. Shouldnt cost more then 10 dollars at the most.
Yes we need to find something better. That table is the best place to make a video though so that is why I used it. But yeah let me look into it. Thank you!
Great question. At the rescue we have a lot of single males till they get bonded to another boy when they get adopted. Since it is not feasible for us financially to have all the males neutered, they live in smaller single cages till then. On average our male guinea pigs are with only us 3 - 4 weeks and when adopted we make sure they will live in an appropriate size cage. If we have males that for some reason take a little longer to get adopted we will bond them to another or have them neutered so they can move to the larger cages. These smaller cages are also used for quarantine, sick pigs and recuperation after surgery and illness.
I think we tried bonding our Bobby with Sushi. Sushi is really nice, but we liked Obi. I think Obi is one of those Buddha pigs (just not when you clip his nails). We sometimes like Obi better than our original pig, Bobby, but they each have their own personalities 💖 I hope Sushi is bonded and adopted soon.
When I got my two boys they bonded so well. The more sub male (riot) would normally sit there until he got annoyed somewhat and knocked the more dominant male (perry) off
my guinea pigs started out you know, trying to gain dominence and stuff but they started chattering at eachother and they kept chattering. i dont really know what to do anymore. theyre separated but i wish they coud be together.
so in your situation, you're able to try wolfie's luck with multiple guinea pigs. what should a person do when they only have two guinea pigs on hand and it seems like the boys aren't going to get along? i am getting my baby - young guinea pig a friend very soon and i'm wondering what to do with them if they don't end up being a match.
That is always a tough one. If they don’t get along but you love both pigs and don’t want to give up either of them the next best thing is to have them living “apart together”. This can be achieved by dividing the cage so that they can touch noses, smell and see each other. You will even see them snuggling and sleeping right next to each other with the divider in the middle. They just cannot be together. The minute you remove the divider they will act like this is the 1st time they have seen each other and go right back to where they were they left off before the divider was put in. There are exceptions of course but usually this is how they respond.When going for this option make sure that the individual space for each guinea pig is large enough. Single pigs need about as much space as pairs. 2 x 3ft would be the minimum recommendation. Coroplast made cages would work really well for this purpose. Good luck with the Bromancing!!
My Guinea pigs fight like that because They all two want to be the boss. And I set them apart because they have Wounds, and I dont now what I have to do now😢(they are a half year together)
Girl Power once blood is drawn that’s it. Please don’t keep putting them together. They can live side by side, or you could try and bond them each with another piggy.
hey i want to ask, i want to buy guinea pigs but im afraid of ringworm, and i heard its very normal for they to get ringworm and then pass it over? have u had it? is it true that if you get ringworm on the head you lose all the hair.
They can get it and it is quite common but it is also not a big deal and easy to treat. And no you will not lose your hair. I have only had it once in all my 20+ years of running the rescue.
Saskia. I need help. I heard over and over that you always need at least 2 guinea pigs. I had the one now for about 2 or 3 months. Now I have a baby I've got. I have 2 separate caged next to each other and I have put them on the floor together and the bigger one is making those noises and trying to mount the little one only cant cause hes to fast. So do they need to be kept separate forever? I dont get it? If they hate each other and dont get along what's the point in getting 2? Should I have gotten a girl???
Nope, mounting is normal when it comes to introductions as long as it’s two males. The noises you’re hearing is called rumble strutting, it just means dominance. Mounting should stop within a few months at most, but it’s possible that it may go on forever. As long as you don’t see the fighting, they should be ok together. Fighting looks like a huge fluff fall in the air, if they start fighting separate them with a towel/stick because u could get bit. Just keep trying. If you see the two pigs eating or laying down together, they are most likely compatible, but if it’s constant chasing to the point where one pig can’t eat or drink they may need to be separated and re-introduced later on. Hope this helped!
My 2 boys just act like the first 2 aaaaaaall the time 😞 2 separate cages takes up so much room 🙈 I’ve had 12 Guineas over the years and NEVER had some that didn’t get along. So stressful 🙄
Makes me glad I only have one boy! Always wanted to get him a friend but I just couldn’t take the chance on them fighting. I have my boy with me out of the cage almost 16hr a day, so he gets plenty of love and attention but I know he would love to be with one of his own. Maybe one day!
Is there any time when you determine that a male pig is better off as a lone pig? My male is very agressive toward other males and I don't want him to get hurt or hurt another pig, he does not show signs of loneliness or depression being alone and my dog and cat visit his cage frequently and he seems to not mind them much, is it okay to keep him alone? If not what can I do?
Try finding a baby boy no older than 8 weeks. The males are never ever aggressive toward a baby and will usually continue to be bonded. Also cage size is important. Make sure you have a Midwest or larger. Good luck!!
Wow... I never see somthing like this. I once have 3 Boys and they never so somthing like this. Maybe because they are young as they start living together. (Sorry for my Englisch)
A long comment! My unusual bonding story: I’ve had my little guys for a short time. My husband surprised us with an 8 month old boar and I got attached to the little guy. I started watching You Tubes to learn what to do with him. That is how we ended up with a baby boar. Supposedly, babies do well with adults and by then Buckey was 10 months old. When we finally let them meet, the five week old BABY was the one who was the most dominant! Cedric chased Buckey and humped him for quite a while. When I finally put a cardboard box into their meeting area, they both went inside and were calm with each other. I was with them for FOUR HOURS the first day, and I felt it was safe to let them live together. My daughter and had I built a six foot long by two foot wide C&C cage and my mom and I sewed several sets of fleece cage liners and pee pads to put under their hidies and places they tend to sit and eat. The funny thing that has happened is that the baby has stopped being aggressive and is now following Buckey everywhere he goes. It’s like Buckey is his security blanket and it’s sooo cute! I’m working on taming them by hand feeding twice a day as well as holding them each day. (And yesterday we made an enclosed area in the backyard so they could eat grass and get fresh air. I put a couple of box houses in with them and they scurried to different houses. After a minute or two, baby Cedric screamed/wheeked in terror at being all alone in a strange environment! I gently picked him up and put him in Buckey’s house and for the next hour, Cedric tried his hardest to crawl underneath Buckey! I’ve never seen them cuddle like they did while we had them outside. We went inside after about an hour because the Florida weather was a bit hot for them, even in the shade beside a lake.) They are doing great as cage mates. I’m really enjoying the little guys and love watching You Tubes about Guinea pigs each day. Thank you for your videos. They really help!
Hello! If 2 male Guinea pigs(That have livet together in 2-3 years) where separates for some dags after a real fight where it came blood. Can the be bonded and live together again? (Sorry for my bad English)
I'm no expert, but I would not try to put them together again after there has been an injury. They may be able to live next to each other if there's a divider, but I would not take a chance on putting them together and being injured again. It's disappointing, but their safety is most important.
Also, cage size is important, particularly extra space for males since they are more territorial. If they can't have space to get away from each other when they're annoyed, then a fight is going to happen.
I must have gotten really lucky with my two boars. They have never fought in they're a little over a year apart and I just kind of put them together and they just fit. They still chatter and strut all the time but there's never any humping or fights and they eat together just fine
My three boys are all single boys 😣😣 one is 8 months old, and two are 5 months old now. They fell out after the little one bite both of them (with blood) after about a month when they stay tgt. The little one was only 11 weeks old but he’s a biter when he’s irritated. They’re all living in side by side cages now. Wondering if I should reintroduce them when they’re older?
@@LosAngelesGuineaPigRescue What will be a good age to start reintroducing them again? And thanks for replying! love your videos! I've learnt so much from all the videos. Sending love all the way from Singapore :D
There was a skinny pig at my local pet store that I've absolutely fallen in love with and would like to adopt. But I would feel terrible getting him and not having a friend for him. If I bring him home, what are the chances of me being able to bond him with another male pig from a different pet store? Is bonding males more successful if they are younger?
@Matthew Lund Thanks for the feedback! I ended up going to go get one skinny pig and came home with two. They were brothers and already bonded, so it worked perfectly
Can they meet each other through the bars of a cage ? I've done it this way before before I put them in together. it's also how I introduce a new horse. (over a fence for a couple weeks)
My oldest male just passed away yesterday, had him put to sleep after battling to get him to eat for a couple days, with nothing to show for it but two sleepless nights of syringe feedings and weight loss and him just lying there passively. He was done. I speculate the pain of his arthritic rear legs was too much to bear. I used the cbd every 3 or 4 hours but he was so locked up he must have hurt a lot. He even dragged his legs a few times and had trouble getting them under his body. The xrays showed the damage in his legs. You could see it. Im gonna misss that guy a lot. For years I started each day by waking to him ringing the bell in the boys side of the pen, for breakfast lettuce. This morning it was silent and that was when I realized how big a part of my life that bell had been. He rang for me each morning, and rang it as soon as i stepped in the house after work. ( And lots of times when I was home!) He had a male friend on his side of the pen, a young fella. The girls are next door seperated by mesh so they can kiss through it, and sometimes have carefully supervised visitations. So this video is perfectly timed, as little Ronnie Red will need a new friend. My impression of boys dwelling together is you need two components. 1 A mismatch in strength, age, or willfull temperment so that one pig agrees the other can be top dog ( top pig?) 2 A gentle temperment in the dominant pig so that they dont use that position to abuse the other pig. #1 you can venture a guess by looking at them before trying....but.... #2 you just dont know until you try, and has to be observed over time. I mean several weeks. So anyway, perfectly timed vid. Ill be taking this up eventually, just need some time to recover from losing my friend. RIP Kirito-San, my little bellringer. I'll always love you.
Oh what a precious pig - ringing the bell to get snacks. Great job teaching him. I am so so sorry to hear this. It never ever gets any easier. It sounds like he was your heart pig 💗🌞💗🌞💗🌞
@@LosAngelesGuineaPigRescue Which of them I love more is like asking which mountain is easier to lift. Theyre all special little people. But I do miss that ringing. Was really glad I already had that CBD so fwiw I could make him more comfortable at the end. I got that idea from your videos ahead of time, so thanks.
I’m so glad you did this video! I am planning on bonding my boys after 2 1/2 week quarantine this afternoon! I am nervous but I hope it goes well. If not, separate cages for both.
This was a very interesting video. I've never seen 2 boys being bonded, bonding girls is just as noisy but has far less humping lol. Have you ever known of bonded guinea pigs suddenly no longer get along?
Yes, if the piggys' are young and they get to the 'teenage stage', which is from 6months to 1 year old, the girls will disagree and the boys will fight. Once they hit 1 year old, they should settle down again. If you can get them through this stage with no blood drawn, do not seperate, if blood is drawn, then seperate and try bonding them again when they are older.
@@karaleetrapp Ah, my desexed male who is 4 started fighting with one of my desexed girls (she's also 4) a bit over a year ago. He had been living happily with her for two years. It's as if he just woke up one day and decided he didn't like her. She ended up with 6 serious bites and terrified by the sight of him. He lives with my oldest girl on the top level of the cage, Dad and I joke it's a guinea pig prison. I've tried rebonding them a few times but each time it's resulted in my poor girl having chunks of hair pulled out :(
I've had my boys out for a couple hours together. There's just rumblestrutting so far. They'll eat together and lay down a couple feet from each other. There's no humping yet. Is that normal? Do I need to wait for the humping?
Sushi: WhAt HaS HaPpEned To mE
Sushi;
I have been violated.
Lol
sushi: trust me , i mo get that booty later on .
the piggies in the background look so interested that they look like they are watching a reality tv series hahaha
Hahaha
My piggies love watching TV when they have floor time and the TV is on they sit there and watch it
@@yoohyeonforever7067 same
@@yoohyeonforever7067 same
“Next on Island of Love, can Gary and Stan work things out? Have they met their match? Stay tuned and find out on Island of Love”
the audience is like the Wheel of fortune as in they are also the pool of contestants.
warning ⚠️: don’t watch this while holding one of your pigs !!!! they will go crazy 😂
🤣🤣🤣 wonder what their saying
I like this video because it shows negative behavior too. Too often you will see one of these videos of a pair of bonded pigs and they don't show you any of the negative behavior.
Sushi looks so traumatized lol thanks for the video it’s super fascinating
Princess Cheap I agree and wouldn’t bond these two for not wanting Sushi to live in such guarded oppression the rest of his life. Just my opinion.🤷🏻♀️
@@BobbyGeee Agree
@@BobbyGeee this behavior is normal and will pass though. My girls did this for maybe 20 minutes and then it never happened again and they are the sweetest pair. 🤷🏼♀️
@@BobbyGeee This is normal behaviour. It may look upsetting to humans but for guinea pigs this is just normal submissive behaviour, you'll get this with every introduction. It will most likely calm down once they're together for a while. It's not oppressive it's just the way guinea pigs are.
This seems more like sexual assault than bonding lmao xD
Your fence had me more nervous than the actual bonding.
Yess
I have my pigs on the coffee table regularly with zero fence around it, not once have they ever fallen off and even if they did, they are hardy and wouldn't bother them much, at all.
You could've done without what comment??? I can say anything I want Im not insulting anyone besides Saskia is the one that matters to me and if she didn't like my comment she would be the one saying something.In fact the fance had me nervous again nothing wrong with what I said.
@@zoidburg2975 I'd say that very unsafe hope your guinea pigs never get hurt.
Leyani Viera she knows what she’s doing, she’s right there monitoring I think it should be fine. Pigs don’t go jumping off high things very often anyway.
I love watching the way they interact, the body language, the sounds, going back and forth. I think for a good bonding its a matter of finding 2 boars with the exact same temperament so that neither one is overly dominant or submissive. I think then they just decide to call a truce and live in peace. The little "punch" you mentioned made me laugh because my one girl does that to me when she doesn't like what I'm doing, usually cleaning her cage, she's very possessive of her 💩💩 and gets mad when I take it away. Weirdo.
It's probably perceived as: "Destroying her nest" (filled with poo)
Sushi said "get me out of here!!!!"
Make an appointment and all the volunteers are happy and excited to find your Piggies new friends
scoty
Youre such a great guinea pig guy you and saskia and ALL of you people are awesome!! Thank you
Hello scotty
Just like people, personality clashes happen and there are some people you just can't get along with no matter how hard you try. There are also good matches where you just click, too. So I see it like that 😊
Exactly!
wise
Seeing this makes it all the more clearer that I made the right choice when I kept 2 of my girls separated from my other girls. The two alpha females went into a full on tussle flying at each other in a fury, and both of them bit the other. I tried a few more times with different approaches but it was clear that they were absolutely out for blood and hated each other. Really sad. However, I have them each in a midwest side by side, with a wooden "fence" between them. They actually lay next to each other sometimes on each side of the fence, which is hilarious. Just don't remove that fence....lol!
I was wondering about this. I recently got 2 sister piggies from the shelter. We built a huge cage, so I want to rescue another girl. I would keep her separate at first, but if I got a young one do you think the chances are good they would become friends? The 2 I have are 8 months old.
We have the same situation. I've renamed them Nikki Menaj and Cardi B lol
Omg same here! They can't be together but lay next to each other by the fence!
my boys did this
I introduced my one year old male, (Bean) to my six month old male, (Coco) There was humping for only about five minutes and my six month old let it happen. They are best friends now! Bean is like Cocos father ❤️
That is wonderful
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Wait that’s weird I had two pigs named coco and bean lol, coco died recently though ;(. Now I have two pigs named Bean and Sammy Davis Jr. lol
i remember we just put them in the cage and the new one was mounted like ten times then when we let them eat a pile of grass together they immediately snuggled up after a huge feast haha
you are such a wise and relaxed woman, saskia. you really know, what you are talking about. very nice video! 👍🌸🤗🌸
Thank you Irene!!
@@LosAngelesGuineaPigRescue i just added a 2month old male with my two 4month old girls any suggestions
Girl bonding also, please? My two girls always fight when I put them together. :(
DiverseKitty mines too they bite eachother violently
me too!!!!!! so frustrating
have they been neutered/spayed?
Charlie Williamson do we have too even though it’s 2 females together?
Geo sarks well i had two rabbits so it might be best to ask a vet but from what i know it completely calms their hormones and so they're less likely to attack each other. please do ask though but i would highly recommend however as i said, it's true for bunnies so i don't really know how well they cope under anaesthetic. otherwise, something that is recommended for bonding rabbits is to take them for a drive together as it's quite stressful and they're more likely to use each other as comfort, but again please double check as i don't know how the pigs would handle being in a car. i hope this helped though
As someone who definitely has experience with bonding piggies I agree 100% with Saskia. I however use a dust pan folks I HAVE PERSONALLY BEEN BIT WHILE SEPERATING 2 MALES it was lighting quick I did it with out thinking and 6 HOURS IN THE ER AND SEVERAL STICHES ON MY FINGER shewwww ALWAYS BE ON GUARD when doing this. USE THAT DUSTPAN GUYS as a barrier. I would try a younger boar with him myself. That smell is like Skunking each other YASSSS it stinks.
Yeah a dust pan!!
What a great tip ❤️
@@LosAngelesGuineaPigRescue my pet store only sells male rodents and i was wondering if i buy two males from the same litter will they be okay when they grow up?
Matshapiri Males forever in my experience we got two males who are litter mates when they were babies, and one ended up slicing the others eye open. he’s okay now though, but we ended up having to separate them. so honestly you never know
I tried to bond my 2 for the first time for 3 minutes and I tried to pick up the younger one cause it scared me and he bit be bad. :(
imagine 2 humans doing this in a job interview xD
I discovered you through the dodo and my mom actually used to teach at a school near your rescue in chatsworth. But my aunt rescues guinea pigs in ridgecrest CA. So i have had little guys like this for years. I just wanted to say thank you for showing people how to care for them and how they are as pets. So many kids get them and don’t treat them well. I seriously loved mine. I had 3 named named Harry Ron and Hermione. I appreciate the time you’ve spent learning about them and the fact you sometimes know more than vets about their behaviors! Keep up the great work and I’m definitely donating to this because you’re doing great work.
Thank you!!!!
Saskia from Los Angeles Guinea Pig Rescue you’re very welcome! i got a few things off your amazon wish list so they are on their way! i got two bottles of the eye ointment and a bottle of the vitamin C. Hope that helps keep these little guys healthy!
I grew up in ridgecrest in the 60s when it was just a tiny desert town it’s big enough now to have a Guinea pig rescue wow!!
I am so lucky, I used to have a male trio that didn't work out (two of the boys were fighting the third one, but they were all completely fine in any kinds of pairs with eachoter)
But then hen I had another trio with 3 different male piggies, they never fought. One of them passed, I adopted two more and now I have 4 males together. It's all about their personality.
Coteata Mara I have three boys 😍
It is possible if you leave them together long enough, all of them eventually will work out. Even so, you can only put up with it so long.
He doesn’t like the other guy. He’s too aggressive
22:39 me: .......it’s a match (if you ever have two guinea pigs, like males, and they lay down, you know it’s official ☺️😆😂)
WolfGirl_ YAS! U were wrong 😂
:/ they're just animals tho. They act more on animal instinct. If humans (animals) got at their extreme low points, where if you had to kill another one, in order to survive, you'd prob do it too. I'm not trying to be edgy, I'm js. Maybe even cannibalize. Animals are prob on constant survival mode. They only learn how to be more compassionate towards humans, once a human enters their lives. Their instincts only tend to drop more once you put food into the equation. But lucky for you, g. pigs are vegans.
The best situation is when you have 2 (or more) brothers. That's my case, we have 2 🤭 They were born at ~ same time => no fighting, instant friendship, happy fellows 😍 Well, they still chatter and one of them is dominant, but hey, they don't ever fight!
I love Sushi's coloring, gorgeous. Great video, as per usual 💜
You should have a tour of your shelter and all the cages and stuff
Yes!! I am waiting till we have better lighting and then was thinking of doing one every month so you can all see how many new pigs there are each month. We adopt out 30 / 35 guinea pigs each week.
Girl bondings are sooo much easier in my experience!
Oh yes they are indeed!
Thank you Miss Saskia, This is the most educational Piggy bonding
video on The Tube!!
You are so very welcome sweetheart!!
I loved this. your commentary is gold. I use the blow technique on my dog when i need to distract her, she then licks me.
You look extra pretty today
Aww thank you honey!!
This was really useful! I've never dared try 2 males together.
I absolutely love everything you all do at the rescue, you all are amazing! Your videos are very educational and I look forward to your videos! Thank you for helping all these piggies! Love you Saskia!! I wish I lived closer to California so I could come and adopt a piggie or 2 or 3.
my guinea pigs, who are brothers so have been together at birth have recently been doing a lot of teeth chattering at the moment, it hasn’t gone to far yet but i’m going to bond them with each other again just to see what happens. can anybody help me, how do i get them to be friendly to one another again???
I had boys only for 5 years now. Did the bonding game countless times. some boys couples lasted for months before falling apart regardless of age some didn't last more than a day and some stays friends forever. Always in large c&c cages with plenty of everything to avoid arguments. One of my single boys, Harry always plays submissive for a week and after that time turns dominant and aggressive, never lasted longer than 2 weeks with any friend. My way for single boys is massive c&c cage split in the middle so each boy can have neighbour to talk to and share meals with while keeping his own territory, All are calm and happy. Good luck with Your piggie bonding and don't give up one them to quickly. Sending loads of love to all L.A. Guinea pigs and their amazing care takers.
Me and my fiance just rescued two and id love for you to do a video on human bonding
😑
@@averyoddperson3564 wtf is your problem?
… a whole world of communication when two boys get together! 😁
Also, I always like to remind people that with boys, the first week may very well be like this as they get to know each other. But with patience, two strangers can become fast friends.
4 Years in the future, knowing that things taking more than a few days is very reassuring. After always having prebonded pairs, I now have two Guinea pigs I have to bond. They met each other four days ago, and are still chattering a bit and chasing each other around.
So I have a adult male guinea pig and I recently got a baby male guinea pig , right now they are in the quarantine stage. But every time I have them together for floor time my adult guinea pig purs and circles around the baby , almost reminds me of a mating dance. Is this normal ? Should I continue to try to make them bond , or is this not normal behavior ?
Yes totally normal! It will get less in a few hours. Just don't separate or the whole process will start anew.
Would definitely recommend lots of hay and veggies already in the bonding enclosure before putting the pigs together. Two way tunnels, or a place for the submissive pig to kind of back off from the stress periodically throughout the bonding experience is important too.
I find GP bonding fascinating! Thanks for sharing, guys. x
He’s all annoying him. Lol they’re funny
Hi! I have only 2 boys and I am trying to bond them. The bonding is like the first one. We can't get another pig. Should they live alone and separated from each other?
Everyone who is bringing a single boy or who wants to pair up two of our boys should watch this video. I can't tell you how many times I have tried to explain that a bonding was going well and people project their human emotions onto it and insist that I break the pair up. This is why we book adoption appointments for an hour--it takes that long to determine if it's a match! :)
Avery Magaña I have an older boar. Will this still work?
9:34 “get me out of this hell hole”
Thank you so much for this video! I adopted a single boy from our shelter a year ago. I recently bought him a larger cage and wanted to adopt another boy to hopefully have a bonded pair of boys. Success! The shelter had another single boy that I adopted last week. Using your bonding method the boys bonded and are doing great! They are both so happy to have a friend. Thank you for your detailed videos!
Oh yay that is wonderful!! ❤❤❤
I've actually never had a problem bonding but one was always older than the other. Fingers crossed. Bonding can be hard.
Super informative and fascinating to watch ! Thank you very much for this video 👍❤️
Your videos have helped me so much. I had guinea pigs growing up (one at a time) but now that I’m older I’ve relied on your channel so much for giving my boar the best life. A few days ago I got him a brother and have been using your channel as a basis for my introduction. Been keeping them separate but today put them in a play pen to see how things went. Your advice taught me what was normal and what behaviors to look out for. Thank you!
Could bonding my 10 month old boy with a baby boy be a succes? Or is a adult better
Baby boys are always a great match up to 6 -7 weeks old. But this doesn't mean that they will continue to get along. It does sometimes happen that they will start squabbling when the baby becomes a teenager.
In the wild one pig could run away. He is being bullied. This is horrible.
I gave up im putting them both in the same cage been tryin for 2 wks if they live they live if not may the best man win
My older guinea did the nonstop humping to my new guinea boy for almost two weeks. I was starting to get worried they weren't gonna work or start to fight because i heard a lot of teeth chattering from both but after a LOOOOONG long time, they are now the best of buds and the older one even feels like he has to "protect" the baby when i go get them from the cage
Hi, did ypu separate them? My older guineapig never stop chasing the new one😭
@@stefaniegracecruz8650 You would know if you read the post….? Rude
My boys don't get along with each other at all. I put a cage divider between them, but they want to beat each other up every time they get close to each other.
6:20 sushis face 🤣🤣😂
Great video saskia!! I’m loving how you’re handling the piggies...I’m getting guinea pigs soon and I was wondering if some people like you could subscribe to me and give me info along the way of just support for fun 🥰😂🤩
*picks up guinea pig shit with bare hands*
*touches face* 7:11
I currently have two guinea pigs that have recently started fighting badly. They often leave bite marks on each other but luckily they haven't blood. I have kept them separated for this reason and I'm worried that if I keep them alone it will be unhealthy for them since guinea pigs require other guinea pigs around them. I am kind of surprised because they had been getting along before and suddenly they are fighting. I'm not sure what to do can anyone help?
Saskia, if you are in the habit of putting that collapsable fence on that table, maybe you could build a lightweight rectangular frame to put around the base to keep its form , then you can just tuck it behind a shelf somewhere when you arent using it. Cheap pinewood or schedule 40 pvc. Shouldnt cost more then 10 dollars at the most.
Yes we need to find something better. That table is the best place to make a video though so that is why I used it. But yeah let me look into it. Thank you!
I love Saskia, but am wondering why there are guinea pigs in very small cages in the background?
Great question.
At the rescue we have a lot of single males till they get bonded to
another boy when they get adopted. Since it is not feasible for us
financially
to have all the males neutered, they live in smaller single cages till
then. On average our male guinea pigs are with only us 3 - 4 weeks and
when adopted we make sure they will live in an appropriate size cage. If
we have males that for some reason take a little longer to get adopted
we will bond them to another or have them neutered so they can move to
the larger cages. These smaller cages are also used for quarantine, sick
pigs and recuperation after surgery and illness.
I think we tried bonding our Bobby with Sushi. Sushi is really nice, but we liked Obi. I think Obi is one of those Buddha pigs (just not when you clip his nails). We sometimes like Obi better than our original pig, Bobby, but they each have their own personalities 💖 I hope Sushi is bonded and adopted soon.
Would it be easier to bond younger guinea pig boys?
I’m bonding to boys right now and there has not been any teeth chattering no fighting and they are both eating
When I got my two boys they bonded so well.
The more sub male (riot) would normally sit there until he got annoyed somewhat and knocked the more dominant male (perry) off
my guinea pigs started out you know, trying to gain dominence and stuff but they started chattering at eachother and they kept chattering. i dont really know what to do anymore. theyre separated but i wish they coud be together.
so in your situation, you're able to try wolfie's luck with multiple guinea pigs. what should a person do when they only have two guinea pigs on hand and it seems like the boys aren't going to get along? i am getting my baby - young guinea pig a friend very soon and i'm wondering what to do with them if they don't end up being a match.
That is always a tough one. If they don’t get along but you love both pigs and don’t want to give
up either of them the next best thing is to have them living “apart
together”. This can be achieved by dividing the cage so that they can
touch noses, smell and see each other. You will even see them snuggling
and sleeping right next to each other with the divider in the middle.
They just cannot be together. The minute you remove the divider they
will act like this is the 1st time they have seen each other
and go right back to where they were they left off before the divider
was put in. There are exceptions of course but usually this is how they
respond.When
going for this option make sure that the individual space for each
guinea pig is large enough. Single pigs need about as much space as
pairs. 2 x 3ft would be the minimum recommendation. Coroplast made cages
would work really well for this purpose. Good luck with the Bromancing!!
is it easier to bond then when they are younger?
My Guinea pigs fight like that because They all two want to be the boss. And I set them apart because they have Wounds, and I dont now what I have to do now😢(they are a half year together)
Girl Power once blood is drawn that’s it. Please don’t keep putting them together. They can live side by side, or you could try and bond them each with another piggy.
Saskia I'll say it again, you are a Saint! I was so stressed the whole time! 😂 I can't wait to see one that goes well. Tfs! ❤🐹😘
😂 me too! I recall trying to bond my single boar and was having PTSD
hey i want to ask, i want to buy guinea pigs but im afraid of ringworm, and i heard its very normal for they to get ringworm and then pass it over? have u had it? is it true that if you get ringworm on the head you lose all the hair.
They can get it and it is quite common but it is also not a big deal and easy to treat. And no you will not lose your hair. I have only had it once in all my 20+ years of running the rescue.
Saskia. I need help. I heard over and over that you always need at least 2 guinea pigs. I had the one now for about 2 or 3 months. Now I have a baby I've got. I have 2 separate caged next to each other and I have put them on the floor together and the bigger one is making those noises and trying to mount the little one only cant cause hes to fast. So do they need to be kept separate forever? I dont get it? If they hate each other and dont get along what's the point in getting 2? Should I have gotten a girl???
Nope, mounting is normal when it comes to introductions as long as it’s two males. The noises you’re hearing is called rumble strutting, it just means dominance. Mounting should stop within a few months at most, but it’s possible that it may go on forever. As long as you don’t see the fighting, they should be ok together. Fighting looks like a huge fluff fall in the air, if they start fighting separate them with a towel/stick because u could get bit. Just keep trying. If you see the two pigs eating or laying down together, they are most likely compatible, but if it’s constant chasing to the point where one pig can’t eat or drink they may need to be separated and re-introduced later on. Hope this helped!
My 2 boys just act like the first 2 aaaaaaall the time 😞 2 separate cages takes up so much room 🙈 I’ve had 12 Guineas over the years and NEVER had some that didn’t get along. So stressful 🙄
Makes me glad I only have one boy! Always wanted to get him a friend but I just couldn’t take the chance on them fighting. I have my boy with me out of the cage almost 16hr a day, so he gets plenty of love and attention but I know he would love to be with one of his own. Maybe one day!
I would look into a piggy friend. optimal for their happiness
Get a friend he will be so much happier
Is there any time when you determine that a male pig is better off as a lone pig? My male is very agressive toward other males and I don't want him to get hurt or hurt another pig, he does not show signs of loneliness or depression being alone and my dog and cat visit his cage frequently and he seems to not mind them much, is it okay to keep him alone? If not what can I do?
Try finding a baby boy no older than 8 weeks. The males are never ever aggressive toward a baby and will usually continue to be bonded. Also cage size is important. Make sure you have a Midwest or larger. Good luck!!
This video made me so nervous . Geeeeeez
Wow... I never see somthing like this. I once have 3 Boys and they never so somthing like this. Maybe because they are young as they start living together. (Sorry for my Englisch)
I was rooting for sushi to win the whole time
Luv ur videos wish I lived near the rescue to volunteer I luv animals especially Guinea Pigs I live in Buffalo New York!
A long comment! My unusual bonding story:
I’ve had my little guys for a short time. My husband surprised us with an 8 month old boar and I got attached to the little guy. I started watching You Tubes to learn what to do with him. That is how we ended up with a baby boar. Supposedly, babies do well with adults and by then Buckey was 10 months old. When we finally let them meet, the five week old BABY was the one who was the most dominant! Cedric chased Buckey and humped him for quite a while. When I finally put a cardboard box into their meeting area, they both went inside and were calm with each other. I was with them for FOUR HOURS the first day, and I felt it was safe to let them live together. My daughter and had I built a six foot long by two foot wide C&C cage and my mom and I sewed several sets of fleece cage liners and pee pads to put under their hidies and places they tend to sit and eat. The funny thing that has happened is that the baby has stopped being aggressive and is now following Buckey everywhere he goes. It’s like Buckey is his security blanket and it’s sooo cute! I’m working on taming them by hand feeding twice a day as well as holding them each day. (And yesterday we made an enclosed area in the backyard so they could eat grass and get fresh air. I put a couple of box houses in with them and they scurried to different houses. After a minute or two, baby Cedric screamed/wheeked in terror at being all alone in a strange environment! I gently picked him up and put him in Buckey’s house and for the next hour, Cedric tried his hardest to crawl underneath Buckey! I’ve never seen them cuddle like they did while we had them outside. We went inside after about an hour because the Florida weather was a bit hot for them, even in the shade beside a lake.) They are doing great as cage mates. I’m really enjoying the little guys and love watching You Tubes about Guinea pigs each day. Thank you for your videos. They really help!
That is adorable!
After seeing this I am now very nervous to introduce my 2 boys to each other!
This was so helpful💞💞 Thanks so much for all the help with bonding. I fill more confidence about my male guinea pig getting a friend.💞👍🏻🐹
Aw man. I thought my guinea pig was gay :( I kinda still do, he was very feminine
Hello! If 2 male Guinea pigs(That have livet together in 2-3 years) where separates for some dags after a real fight where it came blood. Can the be bonded and live together again?
(Sorry for my bad English)
I'm no expert, but I would not try to put them together again after there has been an injury. They may be able to live next to each other if there's a divider, but I would not take a chance on putting them together and being injured again. It's disappointing, but their safety is most important.
Also, cage size is important, particularly extra space for males since they are more territorial. If they can't have space to get away from each other when they're annoyed, then a fight is going to happen.
I must have gotten really lucky with my two boars. They have never fought in they're a little over a year apart and I just kind of put them together and they just fit. They still chatter and strut all the time but there's never any humping or fights and they eat together just fine
omg that dude is dropping friggin land mines. huge
My three boys are all single boys 😣😣 one is 8 months old, and two are 5 months old now. They fell out after the little one bite both of them (with blood) after about a month when they stay tgt. The little one was only 11 weeks old but he’s a biter when he’s irritated. They’re all living in side by side cages now. Wondering if I should reintroduce them when they’re older?
Yes absolutely try it again.
@@LosAngelesGuineaPigRescue What will be a good age to start reintroducing them again? And thanks for replying! love your videos! I've learnt so much from all the videos. Sending love all the way from Singapore :D
There was a skinny pig at my local pet store that I've absolutely fallen in love with and would like to adopt. But I would feel terrible getting him and not having a friend for him.
If I bring him home, what are the chances of me being able to bond him with another male pig from a different pet store? Is bonding males more successful if they are younger?
@Matthew Lund Thanks for the feedback! I ended up going to go get one skinny pig and came home with two. They were brothers and already bonded, so it worked perfectly
I rly feel bad for sushi
Can they meet each other through the bars of a cage ? I've done it this way before before I put them in together. it's also how I introduce a new horse. (over a fence for a couple weeks)
Imagine if humans behaved this way... Lol
This is so funny 😂 I love your confidence in these little piggy’s bonding time!
My oldest male just passed away yesterday, had him put to sleep after battling to get him to eat for a couple days, with nothing to show for it but two sleepless nights of syringe feedings and weight loss and him just lying there passively. He was done. I speculate the pain of his arthritic rear legs was too much to bear. I used the cbd every 3 or 4 hours but he was so locked up he must have hurt a lot. He even dragged his legs a few times and had trouble getting them under his body. The xrays showed the damage in his legs. You could see it. Im gonna misss that guy a lot. For years I started each day by waking to him ringing the bell in the boys side of the pen, for breakfast lettuce. This morning it was silent and that was when I realized how big a part of my life that bell had been. He rang for me each morning, and rang it as soon as i stepped in the house after work. ( And lots of times when I was home!)
He had a male friend on his side of the pen, a young fella. The girls are next door seperated by mesh so they can kiss through it, and sometimes have carefully supervised visitations.
So this video is perfectly timed, as little Ronnie Red will need a new friend.
My impression of boys dwelling together is you need two components. 1 A mismatch in strength, age, or willfull temperment so that one pig agrees the other can be top dog ( top pig?) 2 A gentle temperment in the dominant pig so that they dont use that position to abuse the other pig. #1 you can venture a guess by looking at them before trying....but.... #2 you just dont know until you try, and has to be observed over time. I mean several weeks.
So anyway, perfectly timed vid. Ill be taking this up eventually, just need some time to recover from losing my friend. RIP Kirito-San, my little bellringer. I'll always love you.
Oh what a precious pig - ringing the bell to get snacks. Great job teaching him. I am so so sorry to hear this. It never ever gets any easier. It sounds like he was your heart pig 💗🌞💗🌞💗🌞
@@LosAngelesGuineaPigRescue Which of them I love more is like asking which mountain is easier to lift. Theyre all special little people. But I do miss that ringing. Was really glad I already had that CBD so fwiw I could make him more comfortable at the end. I got that idea from your videos ahead of time, so thanks.
I’m so glad you did this video! I am planning on bonding my boys after 2 1/2 week quarantine this afternoon! I am nervous but I hope it goes well. If not, separate cages for both.
Update: Boar boding was successful!! They are now best friends sleeping together in the same hut. I’m so happy!
@@jodikaupla698 oh yay! great news!
Why do I feel like im watching a crime being commited.
Hi
My girls are really not getting on I’m just gonna take this advice x
My adult female pig needs a buddy. Would it be easiest to bond her with a young female?
Clementine absolutely, usually the older one looks after the younger one. and females are generally nicer and more calm but it depends
This was a very interesting video. I've never seen 2 boys being bonded, bonding girls is just as noisy but has far less humping lol.
Have you ever known of bonded guinea pigs suddenly no longer get along?
Yes, if the piggys' are young and they get to the 'teenage stage', which is from 6months to 1 year old, the girls will disagree and the boys will fight. Once they hit 1 year old, they should settle down again. If you can get them through this stage with no blood drawn, do not seperate, if blood is drawn, then seperate and try bonding them again when they are older.
@@karaleetrapp Ah, my desexed male who is 4 started fighting with one of my desexed girls (she's also 4) a bit over a year ago. He had been living happily with her for two years. It's as if he just woke up one day and decided he didn't like her. She ended up with 6 serious bites and terrified by the sight of him. He lives with my oldest girl on the top level of the cage, Dad and I joke it's a guinea pig prison. I've tried rebonding them a few times but each time it's resulted in my poor girl having chunks of hair pulled out :(
How many times can you attempt to bond 2 male guinnas? Please only helpful advice no judgment
What about bonding a little guinea pig and a adult
Those are the easiest and I will do a video on that as well! 🥕🥕🥕🥕🥕🥕🥕🥕
1:52
G. Pig 1 "We shall resume our battle after we eat this delicious greenery." *munch*
G Pig 2 "Agreed, mortal enemy." *munch, crunch, slurp*
What if you already buy the guinea pig and they don't bond but you cant return them what should you do?
Then sadly you must separate the pig and make sure you have good size cages for each.
@@LosAngelesGuineaPigRescue Thank you Saskia I will be getting a female guinea pig for my nuetered male soon and I am hoping for the best.
I had to separate my boys after a year and a half because they started fighting. Boys are difficult.
I've had my boys out for a couple hours together. There's just rumblestrutting so far. They'll eat together and lay down a couple feet from each other. There's no humping yet. Is that normal? Do I need to wait for the humping?