Bro I'm like 5 minutes in and this is hilarious 💅💅💅 Oh and can you pleasee do it ends with us, it sucks I don't reccomend you watch it but I would like to watch you hate on it 💅
Please watch and then deep dive THE SUBSTANCE. Like you did with Longlegs. That would be great 👍🏼 It's a terrific film and I would much appreciate your analysis.
Thank you for being the first reviewer I've seen who got the point about why the Uglies aren't Ugly. It seems like an obvious nuance that people are missing, but then again, as you pointed out, the movie isn't good at engaging with any sort of depth. I did read the books back in the day, and I remember Scott Westerfeld having a defter hand with the themes and plot points (as well as being WAY ahead of the curve on a lot of tech and social media issues in relation to social and self perception). That said, it has been a long time and I may be remembering the overall series as better than it was. But if that's the case, the ground was even more wide open for the adaptation to take the base premise and really dig into all the elements that are so prescient to the modern world. And there's no arguing that they did not do that on any level. The movie has the depth of a piece of tissue paper, and some shocking lack of self awareness. Having Laverne Cox play the evil dictator forcing surgeries on kids? Jesus. I would love to know why she decided to accept the part.
This book series was definitely written for a young audience (hence Uglyville and New Pretty Town), but it had me in a CHOKEHOLD in middle school. The concept really stuck with me throughout the years. That being said, this isn’t the first time Ive been highly disappointed by a movie version of a book I like. Not only are they trying to make something written for a really young audience into something for people of all ages, but they also rushed, left out, and changed SO MUCH in the story. It just felt very hollow. But, fun fact, Uglies was inspired by a short story called Liking What You See by Ted Chiang. In this, people don’t get “pretty” surgery at 16, but instead have the option to turn off the part of their brain that recognizes attractiveness. The story is a series of interviews debating the pros/cons of this and if it should be a requirement that every student in a specific university has this procedure. I HIGHLY suggest the quick read as it really delves into attractiveness, advertisement, media influence, etc. Def made me think a bit.
Iiiinteresting. I think it would have worked better if they had made the visual difference between uglies and pretties more extreme, but by having the uglies presented as normal people, and the pretties some kind of CGI plastic doll barbie/ken look that everyone has been brainwashed into thinking is the gold standard.
I think the point about the actors being kinda normal looking could have been made clearer if the surgery wasn't just a bold filter. That's perhaps the disconnect from people making that critique. The Pretties should be grotesque/uncanny valley looking
The issue with the casting is Hollywood displaying it's shallowness by refusing to consider hiring any actors who don't meet conventional beauty standards. The premise of the story had protentional to confront the shallow ideals of valuing person's worth by their appearance. The problem isn't people looking in the mirror and thinking "I'm not the most beautiful person in the world", most of us could have been born more attractive by our own personal preferences. The problem is people and society placing too much importance on beauty and what people look like. Just my opinion, feel free to agree or disagree.
I feel like having the big problem being that “the pretty surgery makes you dumb” is a mistake. A good dystopia is a criticism of current society. Hunger Games criticizes how we treat the poor, using them for labor and entertainment. Yes it’s a much more dramatic version of what we have in real life, but in real life people do sacrifice their health and safety just to survive in the society we’ve set up. Farenheight 451 criticizes how we hide knowledge that makes us uncomfortable rather than face it. 1984 criticizes the very real ways governments control people, taking inspiration from actual fascists he saw during the war. All of these are exaggerated fictions, yes, but at their heart, the flaws in these dystopias are flaws present in the real world. But the idea that “getting pretty” makes you dumber isn’t really a good criticism of current society (in my opinion). Getting plastic surgery doesn’t make you dumber. You could argue that pretty people tend to be vapid, which I think is a pretty surface level stereotype, but also misses the real problem with vanity. Pretty people who are shallow and vain and vapid CHOOSE to remain ignorant. Being pretty doesn’t make you dumb, some pretty people choose to use their good looks to avoid having to be deeper or more hardworking. Additionally, a lot of pretty people are incredibly smart. Many instagram models flying out to get dangerous surgeries are doing so as a calculated business move. Many pretty people use their looks as a tool. The pretty people in uglies are “good people who had a surgery with unknown consequences”. But I think it’s a way better criticism if the same people who were ugly yesterday CHOOSE to become jerks once they’re pretty. What if the main character becomes convinced the pretty surgery makes you dumb, only for the reveal to be that no, her ex-friend just became a shallow jerk as soon as it was in his control to do so? Or hell, what if before the surgery, you’re told about the side effect- and it’s just that everyone in this dystopia would rather be pretty and dumb than smart and ugly? It would be a fairly chilling reveal to find out all of these people made the same choice. I don’t know, it just feels like a very weak dystopia if the big problem is that your pretty surgery makes people dumb. A good dystopia should be a scathing criticism, and “pretty people are dumb” is just the exact same repetition of the “dumb blonde jokes” I’ve heard since third grade. And you can’t make a good, dramatic dystopia out of that.
Umm its given in the movie that brain lesions were purposely introduced in the person's brain during their pretty transformation to dumb them down. That's why David's parents are trying to find a cure to the brain lesions. Peris didn't simply become a jerk after being transformed, he was numbed to the point he didn't care abt Tally anymore until he went back to that uglyville to meet Tally (under Dr. Cable's orders) once again, that's when he started feeling something again in her presence. Everyone is conditioned to believe that turning pretty will lead to happiness and peace but its the lesions that reduces your thinking power.
I think there is a Korean movie like that. The main character has a nice voice but she is considered unattractive. Someone else is pretty gets the spotlight for the MC’s talent. Then she gets surgery to make her pretty which warps her personality.
@@kelly8752to be honest there’s a lot of shows or movies where an unattractive person becomes attractive and becomes a bad person, it’s a pretty common trope. I don’t think it’s inherently bad writing, and I think it’s really realistic and can be a good story or a part of a good story. But I also think the fact that it’s so common means that it’s hard to make a good dystopia about it that doesn’t feel overdone. I think Uglies was kind of doomed from the beginning, because it feels very hard to make a good statement about how beauty impacts society that hasn’t been done literally thousands of times. “Trying to obtain beauty above all else is bad” is one of the oldest morals of all of literature. Of course, something being done to death doesn’t make it bad. I just think that if something is a common moral, you need to make up for it with something else to entertain. But dystopias are all about the moral, so it’s already a lot harder to make a good dystopia out of such an overdone idea. But Uglies doesn’t give us any unique additions, it doesn’t go any deeper than “being pretty isn’t everything”, one of the most basic after school special morals, and it doesn’t have anything else like good acting or world design or effects of a great plot that would make up for lackluster thematics.
Perhaps the pretty thing is just a facade as so much political correctness and fear of cancellation doesn't allowed people to question things. If you put this as Trans ideology, perhaps makes more sense. How young people are made to feel like is something wrong with who their are. The irreversible damage cause buy doing the change. So pretty city would be just an illusion ( created like when she puts the pig mask) as even on a dystopia hard labor still to exist. Who is cleaning ... where food comes from ?? The dystopia in the " Giver " or hunger games makes more sense. I can't see th brain damage be se as a tool to easy control.
Imagine if they had cast “ actually ugly people” for the uglies… And you’re an actor and you get that call. “ hey we need some genuinely ugly people to put in our new movie… And you’re perfect for the job” 🫵🏼 like ouch. 😂
@@MadMorphMovieClub that’s awwwwful😅 I guess it helps a little that they’re using their different-ness to their monetary advantage. Props to them, their skin’s much thicker than mine hahah
Yeah, oh no, some people on the internet think I'm an ugly actor. Let me cry into my truckloads of money that Netflix dumped on my front step to star in this shitty sci-fi schlock. lol.
My mama always said "Beauty is as beauty does." I didn't understand what she meant at the time. When I realized what she meant at a later age, I took it to heart. There are many, many outward pretty people that are really ugly and have an ugly heart. And there are many, many people that aren't outwardly beautiful, but they are more "beautiful" than those with an ugly heart. I know this really doesn't have anything to do with the movie, but maybe it does in a way. All those people who became outwardly beautiful still had the same heart they did before the surgery, whether that be ugly or beautiful. It changed nothing about their "beauty" or lack thereof.
Tally doesn’t look like the way she was described in the books 😭 like I heard she got the role because liked the books which adds another lazy mess ngl Pls lmk the casting director
She’s literally called squint, she still could’ve been attractive but there are lots of actresses who would’ve loved this opportunity and matched it Not trying to hate on anyone involved it just destroyed my immersion
I kind of liked the movie and the concept but you are absolutely right about the pacing and exploring characters. I felt like the beginning was "dragging" a bit and if some things would have been established earlier, they could have spend more time on that. Plus the ending kind of showed that and it was just like "Yeah, everyone is here and action!" However, I would like to watch a sequel and more of it because the story got me interested and hooked (but I think the books are better and maybe the movie got me into reading them. I love dystopian YA and it sounds very interesting). At first I also thought why choose these actors to play ugly characters but it actually makes sense if there were only made to believe they were ugly so they would get the surgery (actually smart so you don't have to force them because they would automatically want to take it and get brainwashed and controlled). On a side note I would totally take Tally's new apartment (I wish the characters had different names. That might have been one of the worst part of this. Like they choose the first names that showed up on a baby names website :D). But I'm totally here if they are going to bring back the hype about these kind of movies.
@@MadMorphMovieClubdude, I just finished watching the Maze Runner movies. So dumb (but at leats better action sequences than this) I would do Divergent and Maze Runner before Hunger Games (that's the more passable of all this YA postapocaliptic scenarios novel adaptations)
Shay is how ‘strong female lead’ should be done and she is giving more main character vibes than the actual main character. Gotta give it to the movie for the refreshing take that the girl boss we are supposed to follow is on the ‘bad side’ belief-wise nearly all the run time… but then she is good at everything she tries first time, so never mind..
I read the first two books and part of the last one as a kid. What made me quit was ‘the cutters’ a group of pretties and specials that get clarity and temporarily reverse the effects of the brain damage by doing… exactly what you think. As a kid, I thought they would confront that idea more, and maybe they did in the last book. As an adult, I’m horrified that I and other people my age, were reading that shit. The uglies series has a lot of good ideas, but it also has a lot of bad ones.
One good thing about the books is how they address racism. The society just doesn’t deal with it. It’s implied that once you’re pretty, everyone becomes one skin tone. Tally is first described as being darker than the average pretty. The society gets rid of racism by getting rid of race, an extreme of ‘I don’t see color.’ And unlike the cutters, this is something actually looked into in the second book. So in the movie, it’s even more disappointing that the pretties don’t look more uniform. They’re taking out a big chunk of the evil from the bad guys.
I read the book as a child and I’m soooooo disappointed. It’s like they saw Joey king and decided she’s the face of YA now… like why… like she’s not a bad person but why is it always Joey
I really liked your analysis on Singles Inferno video, I'd really appreciate it if you made another one analyzing a different season of the show, or analyzing just another reality tv show (I liked your Katseye video as well).
Watched this with my friends and the WHOLE time was constant screams, bafflement, calling out continuity issues, questioning the world building, just a whole mess. The Dr. Cable "ugh" sigh with the flame thrower was genuinely hilarious though.
I think the movie could have been better if they made the pretties look like the pigfolk from the plastic surgery episode of the twilight zone. I think it was named in the eye of the beholder.
They explain in "Pretties" why she was changed. I didn't even know they made a movie, but I'll say "Uglies" and "Pretties" were the only good books out of the whole saga.
I’m kinda in the middle like I enjoyed the movie enough to finish it I don’t think it’s anywhere close to being the best it could have but I like what I got I like the meaning behind it and I don’t see it as trash as everyone does honestly if they had gotten better chemistry like you said with the love triangle it would have made things better and personally I think the only real problem about the movie was how the writers portrayed everything also they acting needed to be way better like people talk abt the gossip girl reboot acting no we needa talk abt this acting know what change the cast (NOT SHAY) and get writers who have a more opened mind and the movie really could have been good not saying it’s gone be the hungers game or the maze runner but it could at the least be divergent but I do want a second movie because I wonder if they will take the criticism and come back with something so much better
Great review. I actually havent seen this one, I will check it out just to see for myself. In my opinion, appearances in movies and videogames nowadays are being scrutinized overmuch. People have programmed themselves to look for things like that and make sure that characters arent too physically perfect and they represent the everyday person. Which comes from a good place. But I think it has gone too far.
As good as your review is, there was no need to shade Joey King's appearance... I do agree that Shay should've been a love interest, most bonds were just so bland here
I wouldn't be suprised if it's a one trick pony and it does gets canceled the second movie probably would of been called pretty then the third movie special then the last movie extra
Loved the books as a kid, definitely a poor adaptation. The depth of characters is really missing and yes everything felt very rushed. Would have been much better as a tv show with like 8 episodes so that Netflix would have time to go deeper into what the lessons and plot is all about and how it connects to current society. Also the way lines were delivered was really poor sadly maybe they should have either changed up the script or gotten different actors. Just felt very surface level sadly
That movie popped up in my Letterbox, and I don't get it. Why was this movie recommended to me by the app, based on what I usually watch. In my opinion it's not a movie for children from 10 to 14. Although I am not sure if I would want my children to watch that superficial crap!?
Perhaps the pretty thing is just a facade as so much political correctness and fear of cancellation doesn't allowed people to question things. If you put this as Trans ideology, perhaps makes more sense. How young people are made to feel like is something wrong with who their are. The irreversible damage cause buy doing the change. So pretty city would be just an illusion ( created like when she puts the pig mask) as even on a dystopia hard labor still to exist. Who is cleaning ... where the food comes from ?? The dystopia in the " Giver " or hunger games makes more sense. I can't see th brain damage be se as a tool to easy control.
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Bro I'm like 5 minutes in and this is hilarious 💅💅💅
Oh and can you pleasee do it ends with us, it sucks I don't reccomend you watch it but I would like to watch you hate on it 💅
would love to know what you think of "The Creator" movie in 2023.
Please watch and then deep dive THE SUBSTANCE. Like you did with Longlegs. That would be great 👍🏼 It's a terrific film and I would much appreciate your analysis.
Thank you for being the first reviewer I've seen who got the point about why the Uglies aren't Ugly. It seems like an obvious nuance that people are missing, but then again, as you pointed out, the movie isn't good at engaging with any sort of depth.
I did read the books back in the day, and I remember Scott Westerfeld having a defter hand with the themes and plot points (as well as being WAY ahead of the curve on a lot of tech and social media issues in relation to social and self perception). That said, it has been a long time and I may be remembering the overall series as better than it was. But if that's the case, the ground was even more wide open for the adaptation to take the base premise and really dig into all the elements that are so prescient to the modern world. And there's no arguing that they did not do that on any level. The movie has the depth of a piece of tissue paper, and some shocking lack of self awareness. Having Laverne Cox play the evil dictator forcing surgeries on kids? Jesus.
I would love to know why she decided to accept the part.
This book series was definitely written for a young audience (hence Uglyville and New Pretty Town), but it had me in a CHOKEHOLD in middle school. The concept really stuck with me throughout the years. That being said, this isn’t the first time Ive been highly disappointed by a movie version of a book I like. Not only are they trying to make something written for a really young audience into something for people of all ages, but they also rushed, left out, and changed SO MUCH in the story. It just felt very hollow.
But, fun fact, Uglies was inspired by a short story called Liking What You See by Ted Chiang. In this, people don’t get “pretty” surgery at 16, but instead have the option to turn off the part of their brain that recognizes attractiveness. The story is a series of interviews debating the pros/cons of this and if it should be a requirement that every student in a specific university has this procedure. I HIGHLY suggest the quick read as it really delves into attractiveness, advertisement, media influence, etc. Def made me think a bit.
Iiiinteresting. I think it would have worked better if they had made the visual difference between uglies and pretties more extreme, but by having the uglies presented as normal people, and the pretties some kind of CGI plastic doll barbie/ken look that everyone has been brainwashed into thinking is the gold standard.
Still disappointed how Shay wasn't a love interest. They had more chemistry than Tally and the guys
Yeah in the books I also remember distinctly thinking there was more of a romantic undertone with her than with others
I legit thought they were replacing the boy with Shay and like adding love interests to the mary sue
Stay disappointed cus that's gross.
@@americanpleb7871 bro lesbians are gross?
@@americanpleb7871it’s not gross lmao it’s literally how the book was written
“The bridge between uglyville and pretty town”
I feel like the movie is rushed. Everything went so fast.
Don't tell lazy town about this movie
I think the point about the actors being kinda normal looking could have been made clearer if the surgery wasn't just a bold filter. That's perhaps the disconnect from people making that critique. The Pretties should be grotesque/uncanny valley looking
The issue with the casting is Hollywood displaying it's shallowness by refusing to consider hiring any actors who don't meet conventional beauty standards. The premise of the story had protentional to confront the shallow ideals of valuing person's worth by their appearance. The problem isn't people looking in the mirror and thinking "I'm not the most beautiful person in the world", most of us could have been born more attractive by our own personal preferences. The problem is people and society placing too much importance on beauty and what people look like. Just my opinion, feel free to agree or disagree.
I feel like having the big problem being that “the pretty surgery makes you dumb” is a mistake. A good dystopia is a criticism of current society. Hunger Games criticizes how we treat the poor, using them for labor and entertainment. Yes it’s a much more dramatic version of what we have in real life, but in real life people do sacrifice their health and safety just to survive in the society we’ve set up. Farenheight 451 criticizes how we hide knowledge that makes us uncomfortable rather than face it. 1984 criticizes the very real ways governments control people, taking inspiration from actual fascists he saw during the war. All of these are exaggerated fictions, yes, but at their heart, the flaws in these dystopias are flaws present in the real world.
But the idea that “getting pretty” makes you dumber isn’t really a good criticism of current society (in my opinion). Getting plastic surgery doesn’t make you dumber. You could argue that pretty people tend to be vapid, which I think is a pretty surface level stereotype, but also misses the real problem with vanity. Pretty people who are shallow and vain and vapid CHOOSE to remain ignorant. Being pretty doesn’t make you dumb, some pretty people choose to use their good looks to avoid having to be deeper or more hardworking. Additionally, a lot of pretty people are incredibly smart. Many instagram models flying out to get dangerous surgeries are doing so as a calculated business move. Many pretty people use their looks as a tool.
The pretty people in uglies are “good people who had a surgery with unknown consequences”. But I think it’s a way better criticism if the same people who were ugly yesterday CHOOSE to become jerks once they’re pretty. What if the main character becomes convinced the pretty surgery makes you dumb, only for the reveal to be that no, her ex-friend just became a shallow jerk as soon as it was in his control to do so? Or hell, what if before the surgery, you’re told about the side effect- and it’s just that everyone in this dystopia would rather be pretty and dumb than smart and ugly? It would be a fairly chilling reveal to find out all of these people made the same choice.
I don’t know, it just feels like a very weak dystopia if the big problem is that your pretty surgery makes people dumb. A good dystopia should be a scathing criticism, and “pretty people are dumb” is just the exact same repetition of the “dumb blonde jokes” I’ve heard since third grade. And you can’t make a good, dramatic dystopia out of that.
Umm its given in the movie that brain lesions were purposely introduced in the person's brain during their pretty transformation to dumb them down. That's why David's parents are trying to find a cure to the brain lesions. Peris didn't simply become a jerk after being transformed, he was numbed to the point he didn't care abt Tally anymore until he went back to that uglyville to meet Tally (under Dr. Cable's orders) once again, that's when he started feeling something again in her presence. Everyone is conditioned to believe that turning pretty will lead to happiness and peace but its the lesions that reduces your thinking power.
I think there is a Korean movie like that. The main character has a nice voice but she is considered unattractive. Someone else is pretty gets the spotlight for the MC’s talent. Then she gets surgery to make her pretty which warps her personality.
@@kelly8752 200 Pounds beauty?
@@kelly8752to be honest there’s a lot of shows or movies where an unattractive person becomes attractive and becomes a bad person, it’s a pretty common trope. I don’t think it’s inherently bad writing, and I think it’s really realistic and can be a good story or a part of a good story. But I also think the fact that it’s so common means that it’s hard to make a good dystopia about it that doesn’t feel overdone. I think Uglies was kind of doomed from the beginning, because it feels very hard to make a good statement about how beauty impacts society that hasn’t been done literally thousands of times. “Trying to obtain beauty above all else is bad” is one of the oldest morals of all of literature.
Of course, something being done to death doesn’t make it bad. I just think that if something is a common moral, you need to make up for it with something else to entertain. But dystopias are all about the moral, so it’s already a lot harder to make a good dystopia out of such an overdone idea. But Uglies doesn’t give us any unique additions, it doesn’t go any deeper than “being pretty isn’t everything”, one of the most basic after school special morals, and it doesn’t have anything else like good acting or world design or effects of a great plot that would make up for lackluster thematics.
Perhaps the pretty thing is just a facade as so much political correctness and fear of cancellation doesn't allowed people to question things.
If you put this as Trans ideology, perhaps makes more sense. How young people are made to feel like is something wrong with who their are. The irreversible damage cause buy doing the change. So pretty city would be just an illusion ( created like when she puts the pig mask) as even on a dystopia hard labor still to exist. Who is cleaning ... where food comes from ?? The dystopia in the " Giver " or hunger games makes more sense.
I can't see th brain damage be se as a tool to easy control.
I loved these books, and cannot bring myself to watch it, but am enjoying what reviews I can find. :P
Imagine if they had cast “ actually ugly people” for the uglies… And you’re an actor and you get that call. “ hey we need some genuinely ugly people to put in our new movie… And you’re perfect for the job” 🫵🏼
like ouch. 😂
They are actually called “character actors”
There is an agency in London called "Ugly Model Agency" and shows / movies sometimes go to them when they need some "different" looking people.
@@MadMorphMovieClub that’s awwwwful😅
I guess it helps a little that they’re using their different-ness to their monetary advantage. Props to them, their skin’s much thicker than mine hahah
Yeah, oh no, some people on the internet think I'm an ugly actor. Let me cry into my truckloads of money that Netflix dumped on my front step to star in this shitty sci-fi schlock. lol.
That cliffhanger was actually pretty good and has me hooked for the sequel!
Lmao. I loved Santa Clarita Diet. Absolutely hilarious. Can't believe it was canceled
My mama always said "Beauty is as beauty does." I didn't understand what she meant at the time. When I realized what she meant at a later age, I took it to heart. There are many, many outward pretty people that are really ugly and have an ugly heart. And there are many, many people that aren't outwardly beautiful, but they are more "beautiful" than those with an ugly heart. I know this really doesn't have anything to do with the movie, but maybe it does in a way. All those people who became outwardly beautiful still had the same heart they did before the surgery, whether that be ugly or beautiful. It changed nothing about their "beauty" or lack thereof.
Nah fr if I was gonna get such a good home in such a pretty city where I feel at peace, I would've willingly signed up for whatever necessary.
They said "he's now pretty!" but couldn't give him some fuckin water or chapstick 😒
Like, hydration and moisturizer can go a LOOOOONG way
Tally doesn’t look like the way she was described in the books 😭 like I heard she got the role because liked the books which adds another lazy mess ngl
Pls lmk the casting director
She’s literally called squint, she still could’ve been attractive but there are lots of actresses who would’ve loved this opportunity and matched it
Not trying to hate on anyone involved it just destroyed my immersion
If some of these guys are “uglies” then wtf am I 😭😭😭
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I kind of liked the movie and the concept but you are absolutely right about the pacing and exploring characters. I felt like the beginning was "dragging" a bit and if some things would have been established earlier, they could have spend more time on that. Plus the ending kind of showed that and it was just like "Yeah, everyone is here and action!"
However, I would like to watch a sequel and more of it because the story got me interested and hooked (but I think the books are better and maybe the movie got me into reading them. I love dystopian YA and it sounds very interesting).
At first I also thought why choose these actors to play ugly characters but it actually makes sense if there were only made to believe they were ugly so they would get the surgery (actually smart so you don't have to force them because they would automatically want to take it and get brainwashed and controlled).
On a side note I would totally take Tally's new apartment (I wish the characters had different names. That might have been one of the worst part of this. Like they choose the first names that showed up on a baby names website :D).
But I'm totally here if they are going to bring back the hype about these kind of movies.
WATCH HUNGER GAMES NOW
I feel like I need to at some point, people also want me to read it on the podcast
@@MadMorphMovieClubdude, I just finished watching the Maze Runner movies. So dumb (but at leats better action sequences than this)
I would do Divergent and Maze Runner before Hunger Games (that's the more passable of all this YA postapocaliptic scenarios novel adaptations)
Shay is how ‘strong female lead’ should be done and she is giving more main character vibes than the actual main character. Gotta give it to the movie for the refreshing take that the girl boss we are supposed to follow is on the ‘bad side’ belief-wise nearly all the run time… but then she is good at everything she tries first time, so never mind..
Wait that's not the point. Tally is flawed. Nobody's perfect enough to get out of that brainwash.
I read the first two books and part of the last one as a kid. What made me quit was ‘the cutters’ a group of pretties and specials that get clarity and temporarily reverse the effects of the brain damage by doing… exactly what you think. As a kid, I thought they would confront that idea more, and maybe they did in the last book. As an adult, I’m horrified that I and other people my age, were reading that shit. The uglies series has a lot of good ideas, but it also has a lot of bad ones.
One good thing about the books is how they address racism. The society just doesn’t deal with it. It’s implied that once you’re pretty, everyone becomes one skin tone. Tally is first described as being darker than the average pretty. The society gets rid of racism by getting rid of race, an extreme of ‘I don’t see color.’ And unlike the cutters, this is something actually looked into in the second book.
So in the movie, it’s even more disappointing that the pretties don’t look more uniform. They’re taking out a big chunk of the evil from the bad guys.
I read the book as a child and I’m soooooo disappointed. It’s like they saw Joey king and decided she’s the face of YA now… like why… like she’s not a bad person but why is it always Joey
She pitched the adaptation to Netflix herself… so yeah she’s the only reason we even got it. She did fine as Tally. Don’t understand the hate.
I really liked your analysis on Singles Inferno video, I'd really appreciate it if you made another one analyzing a different season of the show, or analyzing just another reality tv show (I liked your Katseye video as well).
Watched this with my friends and the WHOLE time was constant screams, bafflement, calling out continuity issues, questioning the world building, just a whole mess.
The Dr. Cable "ugh" sigh with the flame thrower was genuinely hilarious though.
I think the movie could have been better if they made the pretties look like the pigfolk from the plastic surgery episode of the twilight zone. I think it was named in the eye of the beholder.
If Shay were the romantic interest, this would have been 10x more interesting.
I feel the same pain about Santa Clarita Diet, it was soooo good. Unjustly cancelled.
Thanks for this review. I know I can trust your videos to be thoughtful and meaningful.
They explain in "Pretties" why she was changed. I didn't even know they made a movie, but I'll say "Uglies" and "Pretties" were the only good books out of the whole saga.
I cannot. The plot of this is awful.
Gonna have to read the books they are amazing except for the very last one it was kinda wanting to stretch the series that did not work
Ngl, I loved this movie for how stupid the premise is
Shay and Tally bonding over sharing the same birthday
I’m kinda in the middle like I enjoyed the movie enough to finish it I don’t think it’s anywhere close to being the best it could have but I like what I got I like the meaning behind it and I don’t see it as trash as everyone does honestly if they had gotten better chemistry like you said with the love triangle it would have made things better and personally I think the only real problem about the movie was how the writers portrayed everything also they acting needed to be way better like people talk abt the gossip girl reboot acting no we needa talk abt this acting know what change the cast (NOT SHAY) and get writers who have a more opened mind and the movie really could have been good not saying it’s gone be the hungers game or the maze runner but it could at the least be divergent but I do want a second movie because I wonder if they will take the criticism and come back with something so much better
Great review. I actually havent seen this one, I will check it out just to see for myself. In my opinion, appearances in movies and videogames nowadays are being scrutinized overmuch. People have programmed themselves to look for things like that and make sure that characters arent too physically perfect and they represent the everyday person. Which comes from a good place. But I think it has gone too far.
I absolutely LOVE your analysis videos. your nuanced takes and insights are so enjoyable to experience
As good as your review is, there was no need to shade Joey King's appearance... I do agree that Shay should've been a love interest, most bonds were just so bland here
I sort of accidentally read the book. It was just as dumb. If I remember retry, I think it was also written in present tense, so extra ick.
I wouldn't be suprised if it's a one trick pony and it does gets canceled the second movie probably would of been called pretty then the third movie special then the last movie extra
Serious question… Does Netflix actually watch their movies before releasing garbage to their subscribers?
OMG! How haven't you seen any Twilight or Hunger Games movies!?😂😂😂
Really like this video, thanks
Totally off topic, please watch and then deep dive THE SUBSTANCE. Like you did with Longlegs. That would be great 👍🏼
Loved the books as a kid, definitely a poor adaptation. The depth of characters is really missing and yes everything felt very rushed. Would have been much better as a tv show with like 8 episodes so that Netflix would have time to go deeper into what the lessons and plot is all about and how it connects to current society. Also the way lines were delivered was really poor sadly maybe they should have either changed up the script or gotten different actors. Just felt very surface level sadly
That movie popped up in my Letterbox, and I don't get it.
Why was this movie recommended to me by the app, based on what I usually watch.
In my opinion it's not a movie for children from 10 to 14. Although I am not sure if I would want my children to watch that superficial crap!?
Feeding the algorithm 🐻
Oh hey, this is that gamer that I watch 😂
You should watch Brigsby Bear! It's a little weird, but still a good watch.
I must be the only one that liked it 🤣🤣 it gave me nostalgia and it was fun in a corny way lol
I am not entirely sure how that stupid story could become a good movie....
Their were way to many shiny moives
Yay, Santa Clarita Diet!!!!!!
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Perhaps the pretty thing is just a facade as so much political correctness and fear of cancellation doesn't allowed people to question things.
If you put this as Trans ideology, perhaps makes more sense. How young people are made to feel like is something wrong with who their are. The irreversible damage cause buy doing the change. So pretty city would be just an illusion ( created like when she puts the pig mask) as even on a dystopia hard labor still to exist. Who is cleaning ... where the food comes from ?? The dystopia in the " Giver " or hunger games makes more sense.
I can't see th brain damage be se as a tool to easy control.
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7:59 that is so damn true and it sucks. This definately couldve been written better :
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In pretty town they are doing a bad job. I saw people who have the face for radio
This is even worse than twXXXght.