Race, Merit, and The Future of Our Republic | Heather Mac Donald
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- In this episode of The Larry Arnn Show, Hillsdale College President Larry P. Arnn interviews author and scholar Heather Mac Donald. The two discuss the dangers created when American institutions abandon merit-based selection in favor of racial quotas, as detailed in her book When Race Trumps Merit. Later, Mac Donald breaks down the statistics reflecting the startling increase in violent crime in American cities. This interview was conducted on October 28th, 2023.
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_When Race Trumps Merit_: www.amazon.com/When-Race-Trum...
Thomas Sowell, Victor Davis Hanson, Heather Mac Donald, the finest minds in America.
I could not agree with you more. I think Jorden Peterson and quite a few others are on that list.
Great picks. Do you listen to Victor Davis Hansen's podcasts with Sami Winc and Jack Fowler?
James Lindsay
Exactly this.
Throw is Glenn Loury please.
Thank God for this brave woman!!
I hope this comment has THOUSANDS of thumbs up soon.
Is there really anyone who doesn't admire Ms. Mac Donald
Blacks and self-hating White people, as always.
She is one of the finest academics and human beings on the planet. The world (especially academia) would be a much better place if we had more MacDonalds in it and a lot less people like Rachel Maddow.
Oh, the left hates her. She was a pariah at her university for obvious reasons.
And yes, that means that she's exactly where she needs to be: Grounded in reality. She is a powerful voice for sanity.
Yes. Elite Universities’ loss. My old school Claremont threatened physical violence when she came to speak. She went ahead on a streaming line and they were pounding on the glass and finally security had to come and get her. Shame on Claremont. I graduated from their graduate school 25 years ago. The liberal arts schools were already woke by then. The MBA school was normal. I don’t know what it’s like now.
Yes. People who are made uncomfortable by someone telling the truth often have issues with Heather Mac Donald.
Heather MacDonald is a national treasure.
Better and rarer yet, she is a rational treasure!
@@gregorygermann5975 stealing that.
I’m a retired police detective of 28 years (1978-2006) Thank you for your spot on insights. Our Social Compact is being ignored by politicians.
I'm a retired cop shop reporter. By far, the vast majority of law enforcement are true, public servants in my experience. However, I did hear stories but it was the sheriffs and police chiefs who actively worked to reform law enforcement and eliminate bad practices.
To bolster your conclusion that politicians have broken the social compact a big city PD near us that was notoriously corrupt, set about to clean out the ranks and implement higher level professionalism.
Progress was being made and then "Hands up, don't shoot" happened. Law enforcement from the prosecuting attorney down to the young, new cadets were then entrenched in woke policing - which is no policing at all.
We are in agreement, “Woke” policing practices are implemented from the top down. When politicians eliminate or decriminalize the enforcement of laws for example, mob shoplifting, burglary/theft from vehicles or allowing trespassing limiting a business access, that is not part of the agreement.
Thank you for your thoughts.
@@Foosh1 - And thank you for your service!
Classrooms MUST be divided by low medium high IQ's.
Theft of a bicycle should be vilified
'When preferential treatment becomes the norm, equality seems like discrimination.'
Thomas Sowell
No doubt Mr. Sowell... you are a treasure!
I've been listening to this superb lady for several years and I agree on everything she stands for and says it publicly, I'm not White but I'm not a victim I am very privileged to be an American and thankful for the opportunities that I've had my whole life...
Very good👍
My same sentiment. Retired black nursing manager
“Human beings are born with different capacities, if they are free, they are not equal, and if they are equal they are not free.” Alexander Solzhenitsyn
This woman is second to none in being efficient/direct with her analysis of this suisociety.
Heather Mac Donald is brilliant and fearless.
Thank you for having Heather Mac Donald on - a dedicated and courageous woman.
I went to Catholic school so Latin was required (in the 80s). My son's school offered Latin and I did "strongly suggest" taking 4 years of it for my son...he did and he thanks me now! He is better at Latin than I ever dreamed of being. Heather MacDonald is a hero to me. I enjoy her clarity and depth of thought!
If he took that much Latin, your son also read some seriously deep literature in the original language.
Thank you!!!! For telling the truth and for your courage in doing so. Agree with both of you regarding the destruction of our society and the underlying causes. So important to turn it around, to tell the truth of false narratives. Please continue speaking out.
She is one of our most incisive commentators on the most important battle of our generation.
You are using the correct situational language. This IS war.
I'd argue Heather's work is less about race and more about our institutions being dismantled.
I love Heather MacDonald and everything she stands for.
Her forthright truthfulness is wholly admirable and so rare. How can we make the ‘intelligentsia’ pay attention to the facts that she makes clear and the pernicious effects of their policies.
Two great minds together. Thank you for this terrific content.
Ghandi said on the last page of his autobiography that the closer he gets to truth, the closer he gets to God.
Thank you both for your courage, frankness and candor.
Not just institutions, the corporate world is jettisoning meritocracy for diversity. It is painfully obvious.
Brilliant Dr Amn....Love this lady Heather Mc Donald...
My country been destroyed by wokery I blame Obamas influence ....Ireland
All throughout my childhood i was told by my wise father:"use the right tool for the job."
Heather Mac Donald is a national treasure. A point that didn't come up is that one of the highest earning groups in the US is African immigrants. Doesn't that say something about how much of an impediment racism is in the US? It boils down to black (note: not Black, capitalized, which is nonsense) behavior and culture, the two things that must never be discussed.
She has such clarity in the way she speaks. I marvel in it every time I hear her talk.
Fantastic talk by Heather MacDonald...she speaks the truth with wisdom, honesty and integrity!
This is a fantastic interview between two great academics and people.
Choose your criteria==> excellence or diversity but you can't have both
I too adorer Heather, her brain is sensational. I have a 60 year association with Harvard and am horrified how far they fell away from the tradition of truth and excellence...even to the point where an aethiest is in charge of Harvard Divinity in the interest of diversity...give me a break..we are being overwhelmed with stupid
SOMEone is allowing all this Stupid(ity). I see a nauseating amount of cowardice in the command structures in the face of the enemy.
@@flparkermdpc You are vert smart Frank
Heather is the best!!
She’s a treasure . . . compassionate, courageous, and intelligent/ prescient . . . sadly, regrettably rare these days. But Havier Milei gave us all the much needed light in the current darkness.
Heather Macdonald is the best
What a lady - she's just noble!
I had grade school teachers - all older women - who’d taught my father and uncle before me, in our small California foothills town, and as I approach 60, I look back on them with increasing reverence, admiration and awe. Any given one of them could more than competently teach us geography, literature (and deep love of books), math, music (all played piano or another instrument), history that leapt off the page, civics and government, basic manners and being an honourable person. And for myself, I wanted with all my being to achieve what these women thought me capable of learning. My maternal grandmother, born in east Texas in 1913, taught in a one-room schoolhouse and even in later years could rise to any occasion and help me with whatever I wasn’t able to learn at school. The education she received in her small town high school left her wonderfully equipped not just to teach but to reason, to read, to write with style, depth and conviction, which inspired me to become a writer myself. I look back at these women and it’s almost as if I’m a time-traveller from a century or more ago, instead of 45-50 years.
Omg! I so love this woman!!!
Any DEI institution should have "Diversity Over Excellence" as its advertising slogan.
"Envy was once considered to be one of the seven deadly sins before it became one of the most admired under it's new name, "social justice."
Thomas Sowell.
Thank you and God bless you.
She is right. Given the unequal distribution of intelligence among different people, it’s impossible to have both meritocracy and diversity. The greatest myth of the twentieth century is that we are all born equal.
We are baring witness to the comprehensive unlearning of an entire generation.
Thoroughly enjoyed this discussion.
I can't say that I enjoyed it. Truth is very hard to hear when the situation at the front is bleak. We heard from two true warriors in a war where there
are so many un- committed weaklings. Not here,
though.
Locally-controlled school districts were decentralized. Each town was responsible for the education of their community's kids.
Problems seem to aggregate as districts get bigger and bigger and bigger--kind of like government. When bureacracy gets too big, regular people cannot keep ahold of it.
HMac (you are so special you deserve a nickname like JLo), you are a national treasure. Thank you!😊
Incredibly privileged to listen to her😊
I absolutely loved listening to this. What I would give to have Heather's mind!
There used to be this legendary test for London cabbies, called The Knowledge, they had to know basically everything about the streets of London. No longer required.
I remember going to London in 1983 and being absolutely amazed at the knowledge of the cabbies. With Google Maps and Waze however, I don’t believe the test is needed anymore. I don’t like writing that.
What happened?
Black Hackney drivers still have to pass the knowledge in London.
Same for the US Postal Service. Several years ago the USPS removed literacy as a requirement for employment. Now you know why you frequently receive other people's mail in your mailbox!
Heather=Facts!!
Even though it’s somewhat depressing, great discussion, thank you.
Rock on Heather! Your courage is beyond belief!
Excellent and enlightening interview.
Heather reminds me of the only high school crush that I truly admired. She had this lovely face (zero self-absorption), she was intelligent, hard-working (not to be confused with dorky), with a beautiful smile, and above all, a pristine character. She commended so much respect. It wasn't meant to marry her, but eventually I did even better ;)
It’s been my experience that the people who consider themselves to be the least racist have had absolutely no contact with the black community. They almost always grew up rich, white and out of touch.
Heather is a treasure for sure.
I saw the Derek Chauvin vs Floyd video................ Derek should have gotten a commendation !!!! Not 20 to life.
Beauty affects behavior and our minds . Sir Roger Scruton talked about beauty and truth. They finally have a lecture series for his work. It was sad that they wanted his work torn up while he was ill.
And it was a real privilege listening to You both. Thank You. It is my cincere hope, that our societies will overcome this cowardly fear of "under achieving" and succeeds in bringing the heart of a lion into the minds of the next generation. Going for it, with all effort and giving it a try, without breaking, if they fail. It is damn hard to try your best and to acknowledge to your self that you are not good enough. So better not even try it..? We have to extend the meritocracy to the phase of trying. Achieving by giving the best. There have to be more alternatives of recognition and achievement, like You said, for example, being a good crafts(wo)man etc.. We really make it too easy to run away and blame it on society. We need another attitude to failing and going on another road without feeling ashamed. Hollywood with their superhuman standard for normal human beings, is very much responsible for the feeling of insufficiency. We have to honour the best, but we need to look at all options. Yes, we can have a lesser perfect orchester. And it is ok to go there and taking part. The best is single, the median is legion.
Outstanding interview
Spot on truth... 🎯💯
so true , so sad our society is disintegrating!
There's so many things she said that are obvious, but no one else is saying. Kudos
Ms McDonald began bqy emphasizing the importance of law and especially Justice particularly with respect for the protection of private property. She ends by returning to broader theme, highlighting the need people have to know that when they bring there case to the authorities it will be judged impartially, fairly, wisely and compassionately. She says the citizenry CRAVES this. It follows that the utter failure of the Society to provide this is the bigger issue. Black lives matter but they are only a fraction of the population. This issue effects the WHOLE population.
Until we can say, and effect, that All Lives Matter we are cowards and complicit in the subjugation and oppression of All Lives.
Thanks guys.
She tells the truth!
Public pools and amusement parks were places it was insisted must be integrated to be fair. Those institutions closed down. Whats to prevent our critical institutions from suffering the same fate? Absolutely nothing at this point. We self-segregate for legitimate and realistic reasons. Its a built in biological imperative ( survival mechanism) we're striving so hard to overcome.
Love the first one Lola!! Why are u so amazing??
In my experience there is an enormous amount of beauty in truth. It can also be harsh and cutting. But in the end it is majestic and beautiful. "I am the way the truth and the life."
YES, YES, YES!!
You sound like my wife.
I admire her, and she inspires me. I wish this man would keep his questions and comments brief because he is not as good.
May GOD bless Heather, Larry Arn, Hillsdale, etc, but in the hopes of saving, for any number of people, significant gobs of time, I suggest skipping the reading of the great majority of comments herein; where, in practical terms, these several hundred comments, found here at the time of this commenting, can be condensed down to about 5 meaningful unique themes ... and maybe a few less. I, for one, would be a good deal happier if many more of us would learn the purpose of the glorious yet simple "thumbs up" icon. *_MAGA NOW ... more than ever!_*
as for most artists, the greatest growth comes from the suffering for you talent and growth as a musician.
Thank you
Enjoyed
If there was more people like her this world would be paradise...or at least much much better and the Obamas and Sharptons of the world would not exist...
Can you explain to me what harm Obama did to you?
“The people called Romans they go to house?”
Life of Brian
Latin belongs in every school.
Meritocracy leads to creativity and ingenuity equity of outcome lead to disastrous inequalities and the inability to cultivate creativity
She’s my favourite person
❤❤Downey theatre We had event with Hawaiian music, I wanted to volunteer the owner of Hawaiian island creations said, I was not the image they want to represent. I am Paniolo. Mexicano Cowboy. Paniolo taught Hawkins how to ranch 50 years before texas. His ignorance, I walked away..
"All happy families are alike; each unhappy family is is unhappy in it's own way." Anna Karenina
War and Peace
None of these issues will be solved, unless we identify the culprits at the core of this conspiracy.
Wait, you cannot do that!
As someone doing MCAT they certainly haven’t made it easier but rather harder. Now even if it is illegal, I am sure they still give a boost to ‘URM’ in admissions as they were doing as you can write about being racially oppressed in your essays
There is no denying it we are in very real trouble across the entire western world because of this monstrosity.
The sad thing is she's pointing out the obvious.
Wow, I think Heather would make an excellent Secretary Of Education, in a Trump administration.
In any admin. In any position. She is conscientious and knowledgeable, a rarity among political types.
Ask an academic point blank about this and they will not respond and walk away. Something's up with that.
I'm working on interactive music software that follows the tempo of the soloist. No matter how piano slow or fast you play, it stays with you. (14:53)
30:10 Mac Donald tells of an Asian immigrant girl in Oakland, California who studied hard enough to get into college. However, her peers "grew up in a culture that stigmatized academic effort as _acting white_ ..."
The woman in Who Shot Liberty Valance wasn't a teacher, (the woman) Vera Miles character couldn't even read until James Stewart's (Ransom Stoddard) character taught her, and all the other towns folk that wanted to learn
24:16 Q: What do you do about that gap? ... What would fix it?
25:05 Guest: ... The change has to come within the black culture above all else.
Watch more movies Larry. You are learning.
I recommend "They Live." 😀
I have always wondered if academic intellectuals ever thought how foreign and alien their conversations sound to the vast majority of the great unwashed
Not so! I’m an academic and my husband is not. He has to stretch intellectually when we entertain my colleagues but he rises to the occasion every time!
To the world, in fact.
The problem with the meritocracy is that it doesn't include a factor based on character. I'd sooner listen and follow a person with low IQ and high moral character than I would a person with the reverse. The meritocracy as we know it fell to its own lack of moral standards which then paved the way for the worse system of DEI.
Hmmm...interesting thought.
The book HM mentions at the 29:36 mark is titled _Chinese Girl in the Ghetto_ by Ying Ma.
Why is this even a debate? It's like we're morons starting from scratch.
I guess I'll check in again in 10 years and see where we are
Welcome to the 2nd fall of the Roman empire.
Are we awake now🕊
You can not hide from statistical mechanics
Let's hear more from Heather...and less from Mr. Arnn!
Dr. Arnn is a decent man, an intelligent man. But he and Hillsdale are unrealistic about some things.
Courage may not find a substitute.
I recognize her from somewhere, but can’t remember where. I especially remember her voice and the manner of her speech delivery (I don’t know how to explain what I mean).
I showed one of my leftist friends Heather's PragerU video on police and asked her afterwards what she thought of all the statistics and she replied, "I didn't like her tone...."
As your jet crashes into the earth, be happy that your pilot, though unqualified, had the opportunity to be a pilot.. lol. Good for you..
24;00 = Probably also goes for commercial airline pilots.
mediocrity is very dangerous. it is unsafe.
Mediocrity will always be with us. We shouldn't elevate or celebrate mediocrity, though. Nor should we enforce the mediocres' envy of the excellent.