At the Gates of Moscow - Furthest German Advance 1941
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- Опубліковано 24 лют 2020
- Just how far into Moscow did the Germans manage to get in December 1941? The answer is surprising.
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The Ikea proves that the Swedes made it farther into the city than Germany ever did.
Xd
The Germans couldn't defeat the Russians with tanks but the Swedes defeated them with flatpack furniture.
@@caw25sha very few Russians menage to put together this flat furniture from Ikea, but hey it is so trendy and cosmopolitan that when you get into IKEA you phone switch to roaming
And with out shooting a bullet.
Somewhere King Charles XII of Sweden is having a chuckle in his grave.
My grandfather was in the famous German 6th army and made it back home. He was on the Eastern front from 1941-45 in a supply/repair unit (repairing damaged vehicles). He was age 36 by the year 1941, so he was lucky not to be in a fighting unit (he said that for one man in a fighting unit you need 5 men in supply units). I remember he told me that in the fall of 1942 his unit was held back to be sent to the Afrika Korps (which collapsed, and so he never went to Africa). So they were by sheer luck not caught in the Stalingrad trap. Which is basically the reason why I came into existence :-) We still have a few items from parcels that could not be delivered to German soldiers because mail was not delivered anymore to Stalingrad. So other German soldiers could open these parcels and take something. My grandfather took a small wooden, hand carved deer (the original recipient may have been a hunter). My grandfather's best friend (a true "Kriegskamerad") became a bus driver after the war and came by our place every year from his home 250 km away. Then they spent time together and talked and talked. His best friend .... He also said that he never had any bad feeling against the Russians, never hated them. Never was a Nazi, voted for the SPD and was a blacksmith. In 1945 he became an American POW in Bavaria (he had left his unit illegally to be captured by the Americans, not by the Russians). The Americans gave them water and a hand full of salt every day, nothing more. Because my grandfather was tall, they suspected he was with the SS and he was somewhat mistreated, but, then, he had no SS tattoo, and so he was left to go after only 4 weeks in prison camp. Never was angry about that time, had no trauma. Felt I needed to share this story. What can I say? Respect these men from all sides and countries and be thankful for their stories. Treat each other as humans.
Thank you very much for your story. Let us all work together that this will never happen again. Especially in these difficult times. Greetings from Hamburg and all the best for you and your family.
Thank you. It was actually an interesting read.
As for me, I have actually lived through a war and have a lot more stories to tell, but I started reading yours and it kept me interested all the way through.
During my childhood in former socialist communist Yugoslavia, most of what I heard and thought about Germans was that they were bad, fascists.
Kids often played "war", with one side being the partisans (anti-fascists), and the other side the Germans (whom we called "Švabe", or Schwabe in German); kids generally didn't want to be the Švabe side.
But growing up, and having seen the Serb fascist ultra-nationalism play out in real life with disastrous consequences, indirectly supported by UK, France and Russia, I have come to realize that Germans are not as bad as I kept hearing.
The people from my area actually say that the German soldiers themselves were not nearly as bad in the treatment of the civilian population here during the WW2, that they behaved professionally, while the local ultra-nationalists "četnici" (Serb) and "ustaše" (Croat) have committed the most horrendous atrocities against other peoples, aparently even enjoying in the brutal tortures and painful deaths they inflicted upon their victims, as if the sickest maniacal sadists have joined together to compete, encourage and goad each other into inflicting the most horrible treatment of victims.
While the Nazi Germany did commit genocides, its major sin in the eyes of the other colonizers was that it dared to attack THEM.
So, I don't see Germany as being worse than the other countries around it, in fact I think that the German ultra-nationalism and fascism were largely defeated and Germany is now mostly exemplary in its politics and policies, while all the other fascisms have remained alive and influential in their countries' politics (UK, France, Italy, Spain, Russia and Greece among others come to mind).
I happen to live in the occupied part of Bosnia, built upon fascist and ultranationalist Serb politics and genocide, called "Serb Republic", basically a fascist ultranationalist state where Serbs were a minority in many towns/cities, but by force and genocide have made themselves into majority which now "democratically" votes in favor of only Serb politicians and interests.
Serbs (Eastern Orthodox Christian, but the church is basically a Serb national church), comprised less than a third of the Bosnian population, and are now given about half of the country which they so viciously attacked and which they keep working against politically and every other way except militarily.
And this was all approved by the so-called civilized "anti-fascist" countries; Germany is starting to look good in comparison, and it actually behaves better.
The "international day of victory over fascism" is what I call "an international joke day", because it was only the German fascism that was defeated, while the other ones keep on going to this day and having a significant say in politics, whether openly or secretly.
Greetings from Bosnia!
@@Bauchito1 Thank you! I agree. And best wishes from the Southwest :-)
Thank you, dear @@edinfific2576 , for your kind words and your story. Good and bad on all sides. And I remember a very nice man from Bosnia (Mirsad) who was in Germany for treatment after the Bosnian war. And we got on very well. I think one always must distinguish between (toxic) nationalism and a healthy patriotism which does not look down on others but also sees the good in one's own heritage. Being religious myself, I would say we have to be very careful that religions don't get abused and hijacked by all kids of destructive ideologies. Peace, Thomas
@@Thomasdada Unfortunately, regarding religion, Serbs believe that God Himself is a Serb.
Nationalism doesn't get crazier or more insane than that.
This war was so insane that it's sometimes hard to believe this stuff actually happened
It indeed did happen, all my grandfathers participated in it on both sides. What however is covered in darkness is how and why it happened. And you can throw official story out of the window from get go, because it has too many lies in it. Especially suspicious is how allies first gave Hitler everything he wanted in Europe and then when actual war started did nothing for almost a year AND THEN surrendered so fast even tho both French and UK armies had year to prepared.
My personal opinion is that allies wanted to build up Hitler and send him against Russia, ONLY country that west has never conquered and therefore hated with passion. But at some point they realized that Hitler, as psycho as he was, has actually built very strong system and it can be dangerous for allies if he actually wins against Russia, so they waited for 3 years until Germany and Russia both deplete each other and then they attack Germany seriously.
Just wait till you see the third part!
@@rbvfeehfbudenrj No, thank you 😂
It is bound to happen again and again unfortunately.
@@andrisbig7710 Poland conquered Moscow.
My great-great grandfather was a Panzer IV loader during Barbarossa. He let me read his journal from the war, and one thing that always stuck with my was when he bent down to pick something up, a shell ripped through the turret and killed the gunner. His seat was gone, and he would have been gone had he not bent down. He described what his gunner looked like afterwards and it gave me nightmares as a kid. Can’t imagine what kind of nightmares he had
Fj
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Smrt fasizmu
А теперь представьте Кошмары Советского народа, и ты поймёшь что твой кошмар это просто дурной сон.
@@user-bo4vn5vp2k you mean now you understand the nightmare of every single soldier during the war? Why only the soviets
I did not know that the Soviets had disguised the Kremlin like that. Everyday is a school day with you Dr Felton
Actually not that unique as Britain had already done the same. Which is possibly where the Russians got the idea from.
I wondered the same thing since on the Moscow map in War Thunder the walls looked like a miss-match of normal buildings
Trying really hard to sound like you know what you're talking about, huh?
David Drygas you sounds like an idiot
David Drygas ~ Yeah,
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It’s one of the most important & interesting documentary films about the Second World War to come out this decade.
it brings tears to my eyes when i watch the Truth That the mainstream media would rather you didn’t know about.
German luftwaffe pilots scouting Red Square: “I wonder who lives in that small 2 story house in the middle of this seemingly normal square?”
"Living" being a relative term...
That's hilarious, "Eh, looks like any old ordinary square to me Hans."
The custodian of Red Square?
Actually, the entire Red Square was Camouflage with Fabricated Buildings to look populated, and only in the 1941 October Revolution Parade, some on them were removed, but later installed once again to mask the Entire Square, as it was obvious "were is a big Square in Moscow, there must be the Kremlin too!"
Zombie Lenin
Nazi general: we saw graphite on the ground
Hitler: He's delusional
Wow!!! You were there?
“3.6 million casualties not to great not to terrible either.”
Soviet soldiers: I serve the Soviet Union
German generals: I serve the Bohemian Corporal
Not great.
Not terrible.
@@GeloDianela nope. Georgian criminal Josef
Field marshal Rokossovsky always lamented that historians always seemed to focus on how hard it was in the winter for the Germans but never for his men..he asked " do you know how hard it is to attack through chest deep snow against well dug in troops ?"
Being a Soviet or German soldier on the Eastern Front must've been fkn insane.
It was HORRIFIC from everything I've read. The Soviets stopped the Germans (on their front, at least) at one of the highest costs in history. The Luftwaffe also scared the crap out of Soviet tank crews because of how devastatingly effective the Stukas and other bomber aircraft were. And now imagine you're doing all this fighting and sacrificing...for a man equally evil as Hitler. Talk about experiencing Hell on earth. Those poor people...
@@thunderbird1921 The Soviets were FAR worse than Hitler Just have a look at the millions the Bolsheviks mercilessly murdered by various most cruel means Much of Bolshevism/Soviet Russia, had mostly ethnically jewish leadership, btw Just saying, man
@@MultiBurger1 nazi
@@MultiBurger1 how much dirt is in your head?
на стороне россии это точно
That German soldier hip firing that LMG was savage
Donnie Darko
At 0:31 ?
@@stacystables117 Yes :)
they don't look so savage on their bicycles though
@Tien Hoang hickok45 right?
Military History Visualized has a video on a manual for hip-firing the MG34. It was a real official tactic, at least far enough to get literature regarding it
My great-grandfather had been in the Red Army since 1940. In the first weeks of the war, his unit was surrounded and he was taken prisoner wounded.
He died in 1942 in the "stalag" Deblin (Poland).
His brother has a similar story. He died in 1942 in a "stalag" somewhere between Berlin and Dresden.
We only found out about this in 2010 when the archives were posted online.
Another great-grandfather was wounded in 1942 during the German offensive, one woman hid him and treated him while they were under occupation. After de-occupation, he was again in the Red Army and died in the Battle of Kursk.
Thanks for sharing. We have to be so thankful for their service and their ultimate sacrifice! Nothing but respect for the russian and sovjet people for defeating the nazis!
my two grandfathers fought everywhere, both were in norway, narvik invasion, both were in moscow, one was at stalingrad other at kursk, one was taken as prisoner in 1945 and he spent 5 years in prison, other returned home and died of heart attack 10 years ago. Second one passed away year ago. One grandfather even have a photo on destroyed t60 its very fascinating hearing these stories
they were heroes, may they Rest In Peace.
@@samo3923 Подбитый т-60, пришли в чужую страну, убили много людей. Наверняка хвалились своими делами, убийствами?
May they rest in peace. Their sacrifice is never to be forgotten. Glory to the red army!
I've learned more on this channel than in high school.
@@casablanka208 this is about ww2. Not your make believe cult religion
Then you should have paid more attention in high school.
@@rodrigosoares7126 😂
Yessir.
So true@!!@ A real treasure trove of interesting yet concise information. Thanks!!
I'm actually watching this 200 meters away from the exact spot where the main German forces were stopped. Just happen to work here.
at ikea?
@@user-wx4nv8xr3d Nope, that's where the most successful unit got. I'm in Zelenograd, northwest from there, which is where the main forces turned back.
If you listen carefully you can still hear Germans repeatedly asking for resupply
@@HSVForeverandeverlol Should have run their vehicles on coal derived methanol.
@@HSVForeverandeverlol I even learned German to understand them
Where I grew up our neighborhood auto mechanic and his brother had been in the Wehrmacht. Karl would go goose hunting at my future mother-in-laws farm. Everyone would be bundled up in the pit except Karl who wore something light like a windbreaker. One of the guys asked him if he wasn't cold. Karl replied "After Russia, nothing is cold." When queried further about his experience Russia, all he would ever say was that he saw Moscow in the distance.
My maternal grandfather was forcibly incorporated in the German armed forces as he was from Alsace. He was severly wounded at age 18 (he got an explosive bullet in his face, which disfigured him) west of Smolensk. He was evacuated along others on an airplane to Gomel. From there he was transported to Brest-Litovsk, and from there to Kolberg. He remained in a hospital in Kolberg until early 1945. He was then moved west of Dresden, ending up in a field clinic before reaching a hospital just to be taken by the Americans. They did not listen to the men from Alsace and Luxemburg, they just told them that they only see the unforms they had on. My grandfather, though a victim and still in need of treatment was put by the Americans in a camp, a sort of horrid dump, clearly meant to kill those put in it. Three months later, weighing 35 kg and barely alive, the French authorities obtained the liberation of their citizens wrongly kept. My grandfather was brought to the Val de Grâce, a hospital in Paris, and stayed there until 1947. Though disfigured and at the time poor, he subsequently met my grandmother (a woman who was quite attractive) and they married.
Those two people, my maternal grandparents were the best people l have met in my life. My utmost wish is to become like them. I am 43, l still work on it.
That’s amazing. I’m sorry your grandfather had to go through that. But it’s a beautiful story about how he met your grandmother. I had 3 great uncles in the US Army on the eastern front and my Grandfather (Fathers Dad) served in the pacific in the US Navy. Somehow all saw combat & all made it back alive. I have my grandfathers papers to this day.
@@kidofsteel0362 ? American soldiers didn't fight on the eastern front...
How did he manage to marry a woman when he was disfigured? I don’t understand.
@@nathaniel1069 Some people care about the content of someone's character.
“But then it got cold, STUPID cold” - OverSimplified
One of the greatest videos ever made
Yep, that’s a Russian winter for ya.
I heard it went down to 40 below zero. Everything froze up. Hitler was the worst military
Oh it got cold. Typical excuse from the germans for getting their asses kicked.
This is what happens everytime someone tries to invade russia
The Germans almost were able to take the tram into Red Square from their easternmost point of advance. Ticket not required, sir!
I don`t know if i knew this from Mark Felton but at the raid on Eben Emael in Belgium the german troops did exactly this. Some german special forces had to capture a bridge and instead of walking they took the belgish tram and then captured it, afaik they even payed for the ride.
They did miss some coins to buy a ticket for ride to the city centre and driver did let them into tram, that's why they lost the battle...
They only had exact change for one way and are still stuck on that tram to this very day like Charlie and the Boston MTA
1234 or the tram ride for supplies
I suspect that their paper would not have been in order.
If you travel by train or car around Moscow, every hundred meters you will see the graves of soviet soldiers. Every small town is full of them, and if you manage to find an old babushka to talk about the Moscow battle, she will tell you lots of details. Basically the closest point where german were can be reached by car in 20 mins from Kremlin w\o traffic
Not hundred meters though... But very very often
Memorial is not grave Олень
mate would this make sense to you distance wise i know one of the forward reconnaissance units got close ran out of fuel abandoned there vehicle and walked back to german lines they were at or near one of the moscow,s rail lines how far away from the center that is i do not know but they could clearly see moscow from were they stopped i do not think anybody got closer than these few german soldiers and it was only like a handful of soldiers i doubt any german soldier seen red square to be honest with you
The distance from the German positions to the Kremlin was about 30 km, but without traffic jams, the Germans would not have reached ))
German soldiers could not see the red square or the houses next to it, because the houses were camouflaged
"The weather was bad" I think thats a slight understatement...
Dude I’ve lived in Pennsylvania my entire life and I’m even shuttering at the thought of knee deep snow in October lol.
A slight storm
That's what saved them. To russians? "nice weather to fight in" to Germans? "oh mein gott, dis ist freaking f f freezing"
I worked construction. For 2/3 wks every Feb it got down to -48C. Then back up to -20/-25. We'd be walking around in sweaters because no matter how you cut it it's a rise of 20 C.
One day after work, I was sitting on the tail gate of my pickup in a flannel shirt. 1 buddy dressed the same, another with a hoodie. I said "you cold"? nope. You? nope. I held up my phone showing -15 C. We were totally comfortable in shirt sleeves.
8:46 the fact that IKEA made it deeper into moscow than the german wehrmacht shows you the raw power of the Swedish furniture industry
Famous last words: "Let's fight a short and decisive war in Russia!"
Francis Ebbecke *Soviet Union
Stalinium russia
Every general who's ever said that has come back limping. Never underestimate Russia's manpower, size and harsh weather. It's a deadly combination.
Lucane Hindenburg ???
@@x0myspace0x but now russia has no manpower now
Your short documentaries remind me of the ones from the late 60's and early 70's that I loved so much when I was a kid. I considered myself a World War II expert when I was 12 haha! I have continued reading about the war throughout my adult life, and I really enjoy what you're doing.
world at war series was the best
Wait, I'm going your lane, I love documentaries and I now everything about WW2 especially about tanks, but-...
but they have a front-line photo in the video near red square with the Cathedral of Christ the Saviour, demolished in 1931 ))
Thanks for this amazing journey into one of the deadliest wars fought in the history of mankind. So much blood, sufferings, distructions caused by the never ending lust for power by the warlords & dictators of the world! It is obvious that people have not learned any lessons and continue to elect dirty minded politicians without giving a thought for the consequences, so sad!🤔
Yeah the show always started with that sad tune & fire blazzing on the TV screen...
I used to live in the northern suburbs of Moscow. There is a monument in Khimki which marks the farthest point the Germans advanced towards Moscow. I realized it and made my girlfriend pull over so I could walk around. It was November, pretty cold, and she was not happy.
I live in the Dubna town, which is at the Volga end of the mentioned Moscow-Volga Canal. Here we have a system of rivers, gateways and large water reservoir. Soviet engineers used these objects to reverse river flows. The reversal broke ice layers over reservoir and flooded vast areas at approx - 30 or - 40 celsius. So, awful conditions were made even worse by them. This approach was successful in stopping nazis in the north direction from Moscow.
Respect to your ancestors, they fought with everything they could to defend their motherland, including the engineering of nature itself, I hear people often attempt to diminish this godly feat by claiming Russia won because of winter or because of size, as if the cold and vast expanse of the country only applies to the invaders...
The human suffering that these men endured is almost beyond imagination. Every day that goes by people forget what a tragic thing all out war is
You really mean what suffering these folks dished out.They killed and murdered over 20 million Soviets on their advance.
@@grandelfe I understand what your'e saying, we always want revenge, I'm just saying people in my country are openly talking about murdering each other again over political differences. Rich man's war poor man's fight.
@@grandelfe Regular German people also suffered immensely, not just the Russians.
@@grandelfe Hey, Don. I think he meant the suffering men endured on BOTH sides. You need to lighten up or get a testosterone shot.
Todays'youth are pussies!
When that intro music starts, you know your in for a treat
I can never get tired of it lol.
always feels weird when I run into it on other channels. I know its just a snippet of royalty free music, but Mark owns it at this point in my mind lol
@ocean man In English the words YOU'RE and YOUR are spelled differently because they mean different things.
It’s just a garage band loop
@@MrCuddlyable3 Believe me, it's a losing battle. There, their, they're, its, it's , there's instead of there are, everyday ILO every day, ect. ILO etc. There's no hope.
My Grandpa was a heavy bomber aircraft commander. He fought from july 43 till september 45. Their bomber squadron was moved to Sakhalin, so ha continued to serve til 1947. He said he was crying when saw our ruined towns and villages from above, but never felt proud when was "uloading" his bomber above Rein, Berlin, Shtutgart and other towns.
I cry what you're doing now in Ukraine. Go to streets, stop this war.
@@MultiJejje cry
@@MultiJejje this comment was completely uncalled for
and now you're the nazis, destroying ukranian cities and committing genocide of their people. also remember, while in no way I want to dimish AH's and Nazi Germany's atrocities ... Stalin outdid him in sheer numbers - a "ruler" just as cruel and murderous as the infamous german one, yet never recognized as such by your countrymen and most of the West alike. but make no mistake, that was the biggest failure of Russia: not recognizing the genocidal illusions of russian grandeur under Stalin and moving forward in the Soviet Union! That's why we have today's situation and why today's Russia desperately needs to be told the same harsh lesson that 1945 Germany was told, by blood spilled and national pride erased and humiliated forever!
Soviets bombed Berlin and Stuttgart?
I have always wondered just how far the Germans advanced, and now I am surprised by just how far they got. That is incredible.
very nice videos. mich better then 90% of dokumentations on tv.
90%? How about 100%!
Shorter and better! Discovery/History Channels are just Infotainment Lite. Mark Felton gives you more detail, more interesting, in fascinating short form. So much better than anything on commercial cable tv 'history' programs.
Gonna get heat but I also like world war 2 in color
So true
100% more history accurate
Because of me constantly watching these productions, I now constantly have the opening theme running through my head
Keep watching, and eventually you will start to hear Mr. Felton's voice narrating your daily life events.
The opening theme music, yes.
It plays in my head while I brush my teeth, drive to work, drive home from work, use power tools, making a milkshake, etc,.
same here
So much evil in human nature ? IT TAKES ONE EVIL MAN TO DESTROY WHOLE NATION ? EVIL ALWAYS EXISTED AND ALWAYS WILL EXIST UNTIL EVIL PEOPLE WILL BE SEALED IN HELL FOR WHOLE ETERNITY FOREVER !!!
Sir I have listened to your naval and ww2 history clips on a regular basis. Your in depth knowledge is incredible I thought I knew a lot from having spoken to many veterans from all sides. You sir are a real go to historian thank you for your time and efforts.
There is a common misconception how the "general winter" stopped Germans near Moscow, as if Russians didn't suffer from the same weather, somehow. The truth is that it aided Germans because it froze mud roads and bogs that were slowing them down in the late Fall of 1941. That slowdown allowed Soviets to pull reserves from Siberia and organize their defenses.
It did to some extent. It was German logistics that failed to supply the troops with winter equipment leaving many to suffer from frostbite or die.
@@declancotter722 yes, winter clothing was late to arrive for Germans and Winter of 1941 was particularly cold, even by Russian standards. But, Soviets were also lacking in adequate equipment. Siberian troops that reinforced Moscow were better equipped, though. But, overall, freezing temperatures gave Germans the biggest advantage with the blitzkrieg and their use of armor.
@@declancotter722 German war plan "BARBAROSSA" was to overthrow Russia before Winter begins!
German tanks and trucks worked real good when the temperature fell to -40F. The weather conditions affected both sides of course, but the German's were on the offense with the clock ticking in the Russians favor. Same weather destroyed Napoleon's grand army.
@@MrSean03839 yes, what you say is valid about offense suffering from weather delays. But, it's a lot more to it than just the weather. Russian offenses in 1944-1945 rolled without stopping despite the same weather. It was a complimentary factor, not a decisive factor.
Remember the real history channel? It was educational and about actual history. Now the history channel is all about selling storage lockers. I wish Mark was the CEO of the history channel.
He’ll be called antisemitic if the narrative don’t fit.
he is. this is the new h channel .
For real.
Moscow was the primery 1941-goal of the nazi's. They believed at the start that when they capture Moscow the war would be over. Basically that the nazi's didn't reach their goals practically meant that they couldn't strategically win it anymore. That they were driven away from Moscow was the real turningpoint in WWII. Much more than Stalingrad or El Alamein.
Nah the history channel was always bullshit. So many mistakes it was laughable for anyone who actually knew their history
I met a man who was a German soldier at this battle and made it back alive.
what did he tell you?
Did he get the coffee table he wanted or were they out of stock?
Sounds like a song
Ah yes. I meet ex SAS soldiers every week, too.
Ok lol
Felton is so good at this. The detail and the way he presents it are spot on. He is great
There's much more detail to it to be told. The 'tough Siberian soldiers' is a heavy understatement. These soldiers would dig into plain snow and wait for 20 hours in minus 40 degrees Celsius, untill the Germans came. Germans, already freezing to death in their unsuitable clothing were expecting Soviets to be at least a mile away, when those Siberians suddenly stood up from the snow like 50 meters or less from them, and started shooting. Encounter with Siberian units was a huge shock for Germans.
yea except he missed the part why the Germans were so delayed getting to Moscow
Mark Felton. I could spend hours and hours talking with you about world war II and pretty much any other history subjects as well. I do love all the stuff you share with us. Thanks a bunch!
Mark: This is a personal note of congratulations on reaching a half million subscribers ( now I see 516,000) I tried to say hello at the time but missed out. My sincere best wishes, Buz Salmon
Buz Salmon. What an awesome name
Someone asked the same question down below, and got this as a response from another viewer
He said the footage came from a ww2 propoganda film called,"Why we fight the battle for russia". Not sure if this is true, just wanted to give you a clue buddy.👍
@@kuckoo9036 , Savage Peasant. Get a room, you two.
@Savage Peasant @UCaMb5xfpfKdr1jAKp4Uz8dQ oh my god the autism is clean HANGING out of this thread
@@kuckoo9036 It's amusing seeing you two argue because you're practically twins.
My main man Marky Mark starting off my day with some dope stories and smooth voices
And good vibrations
You received a rare like from Mark.
You should screen shot this and show your heirs...
... and his funky bunch too
HAHA I love that this comment of all the nice comments gets a like.
I have a few RUSSIAN friends, and it seems everyone in Russia has relatives that fought in the war. I also heard the story of the Germans seeing the golden domes in Moscow. I never knew though it was probably a mistake. good video Mark, thanks
Every one who watches these videos have their grand father/uncle/aunt and their dog fought in ww2 too. Proof: check every top comment!
Russia lost SO SO SO MANY MORE than.any other country
I can't remember the numbers , but way way more
MILLIONS MORE
@@jamesdavison2927 27 million soviet citizens died in WW2.
At least three of my relatives are KIA, some are MIA. Two died in Leningrad in 1942, one in Crimea in 1943 during the recapture
I know my great grandad survived the war and I thing reached Berlin. Some other relative took the southern route and ended up in Belgrade. Also survived the war
But yes if you talked to any Russian and most ex-Soviet people you will hear a war story. In fact when Russian talk about “the war” it’s WWII in every instance
27 million Soviet citizens died in the war.
Another superb episode of the war by Dr. Felton. You are the best, sir!
Many years ago i meet a German veteran from the 9th infantry division army group center. He was in the battle for Moscow. I asked him how close did his unit get. He said "we had a pool in my unit, you placed an amount of money on the day of the week you thought we would be in Red Square." Given how close they got i can see why they thought that.
"Hans! Why is there hardbass playing in the distance?!"
Mister Mark Felton you remaind me of my history teacher, professor Gheorghe. With him i got straight 10's in almost all of my exams in Romania. Thank you for the content!
You have a great voice. That's what made me listen to you for the entire duration without skipping.
I always say, "Tell me something I don't know" and Mark Felton delivers. Keep up the great work Sir.
So close, yet so far....
Love your name and my father met general curtis LeMay in his later years when he came to England
And taking Moscow would not have won the war on the Eastern front. Or even taking Stalingrad, logistics just were not there to support thr German army on the Eastern front. There was no shortage of manpower, there was a shortage of truck to take supplies from the train depots.
British XXX Corps sent their regards.
InsideOutside UpsideDown it wouldn’t have hurt, but Hitler getting sidetracked with Stalingrad was a huge blow. That guy really screwed up everything for Germany. Glad he did...but they could’ve have won had a few things gone a little differently. Then again, the Allies made some big blunders at the beginning of the war, so it kind of evened out.
i don't think Stalingrad was the reason German failed , it was because Soviet didn't lend German oil to do that and U.S didn't lend German Trucks to supply their armies
in one hand , they had advanced Motorized Armies, in another hand ... they had horse powered supply line
If they focus on Moscow , their would pretty much lose WWII faster thank for trap all of the elite armies in furthest point of frontline with a chopped off supply line
Excellent and informative and to the point. Excellent b&w video too. You always add a few extra tid bits to the story so I'm always learning something new!
It is hard for me to fathom the magnitude of this historical conflict !!
Was thinking about you recently and glad to see from you back ! 😊👏💪💯
When my father was young, he had a neighbor in Brazil who claimed he could see the red square through his binoculars from the german positions.
in his dreams
Lies
I believe he was telling the truth. Except that a star on the spire the Germans could see from Krasnaya Polyana was not a one of the Kremlin but of the Northern River Station of Moscow. Northern River Station had been built a year before the war on the opposite side of Moscow channel next to Khimki (IKEA).
i know one of the forward reconnaissance units got close ran out of fuel abandoned there vehicle and walked back to german lines they were at or near one of the moscow,s rail lines how far away from the center that is i do not know but they could clearly see moscow from were they stopped i do not think anybody got closer than these few german soldiers and it was only like a handful of soldiers doubt any german soldier seen red square to be honest with you
scotty101ire Scotty .How old are You?
"next to a giant IKEA furniture store" So they replaced one invasion for another?
As the old Russian folk song goes, "the Swedes know of us."
Cheap furniture and Kotbullar are an invasion now? All hail, Swedish Chef.
But it's a tasteful invasion of comfort and practicality.
Michael Mccarthy - hahahahaha! Good one.😉
@@michaelmccarthy4615 I wouldn't go that far. The 5 million piece jigsaw puzzle of a desk my sister bought tells me that.
Nice details. Thanks for producing and uploading video.
Great video, short but very informative! Thank you! 👍
The WW2 museum in Moscow is fascinating. We spent a full day exploring the main sites around Borodino in September 2014. It's full with historical monuments.
I now have an image of people wandering around just throwing monuments on the ground like disguarded candy wrappers. Ha ha
Would love to go. Some day.
had any pics of stalin shacking hands with hitler?
@@tecuci76 They never met so it would have to be with the chared remains of Hitler's hand 😀
@@littlefluffybushbaby7256 I know. I was referring to the part you didn't find in that museum. ;)
@@tecuci76 Ah, possibly that referred to in the theme to "The Bridge On The River Kwai" that went something like "Hitler, has monorchism..." which I think had the general theme of missing body parts. :)
"Next to a giant ikea furniture center" lmao that killed me.
Ikea is from Sweden just for the fact!!
Yes it's Ikea, a Sweden-based store with stores in Russia and around the world. Mark refers to the store when he visited the city while spending a day after missing flight. Watch the video over again!
the Germans saw the Kremlin Dome from the roof of the IKEA store :D
IKEA have done better than Jerry, they've conquered the world
Lmao even the Swedish came further than the Germans
Thank you Mark..mesmerising story telling!
Great information as always. My Dad was in the R.A.F. landings on Omaha Beach. Thanks so much for all you show us. From Canada
Mark Felton has the greatest voice in the history of real history documentaries, even a blind man would be happy without even been able to see the video.
I was like number 69
And a whole lot better than those computer generated narrations!
Andy Gonzalez
Not really.
For example there was never an "George Washington" weapon SS unit.
This is fake history.
@@immerweiter9005 I think you will find that Mark actually said just that! Pay attention!!
The Russians trading land for time and the Germans facing the iron law of logistics.
What is the Iron Rule of Logistics?
Landon Orr nothing specific just the fact that every army must find a way to deal with logistics or they will lose
@@landonorr91703 Not really, Stalin was lucky as hell that winter was the coldest on record. Stopped the Germans in their tracks.
Mahadragon the early winter froze up the mud and improved road and supply condition. Just because the Germans generals blame the cold winter doesn’t mean that’s why they failed. They failed because it’s not a task they could have achieved with their current condition. Had they push for Moscow earlier, they might have run into the mud season as well, it’s not clear if the Germans could have taken Moscow, contrary to what the generals claimed in their memoirs.
@@mahadragon sure, whatever excuses made the Germans feel better after failing. everyone knew winter in Russia is harsh. even if it wasnt so cold that year, the Germans didnt prepare for the winter situation with extra fuel and winter clothes to the troops because they were absolutely sure they would have won before the snows came. this isnt about Stalin's luck, its about German arrogance.
I love your videos. Lots of never seen before clips and excellent narration, Thanks
Look at the germans outfit and imagine being stuck with your regiment in -30c to -45c temperatures... The lowest temperature reported in 1941, was north of Moscow january 27. and hit -53c.
My man thats a hugo boss outfit warm but any outfit can’t resist-30
We hit -55C here in Alberta this past February!
Yes, the Germans were heavily behind the schedule, and that killed them, they were freezing to death. Another factor was the change of narration in Soviet propaganda; no more fight for communism and world revolution. Instead, they hit the tones of saving mother Russia, and orthodox Church was involved. And then those 'tough Siberian soldiers'- tough is a heavy understatement. These soldiers would dig into plain snow and at minus 40 degrees wait for 20 hours for Germans to attack. Then they would stand up from the snow like 50 meters in front of Germans, or less, surprising them completely.
@@ToddSauve In Saskatchewan we call that a heat wave.
@@frankeinstein7990 I know--I grew up there!
My grandfather was one of Siberian troops. His platoon lost half of men in that push. Luckily, he survived and ended the war in Prague.
But a month later Siberian troops were moved to liberate China from japanese. He survived that too.
He never told us stories of war. I know it all after his death. Feel sad, that I had no chance to listen it personally.... :(
Your grandpa is a hero. Both of my grandpas where on the invading side. The whole war. One as supplies-Officer, the other as a medic. In my business times (now i am retired) i worked very close together with my colleagues in Moscow. I had been there several times (car industry). Today we are colleagues and friends. I am glad about that.
All my grand-grandparents died in the war, one of them was an officer I think, my grandma still has medals and pictures in Ukraine where she lives from them. It would had been nice to meet them tho.
May he rest in peace.
@@eksdee2170 Your grandparents were heroes for freedom against Nazi tyranny ! I am from far away Malaysia and have been to Ukraine alone 4 times now. I read and always remember the terrible sacrifices and inhuman suffering of the Soviet people against the Nazis.
carsten9168 Yeah, they were suffering pretty bad sadly, but without them we’d all be speaking german now
Taking Moscow would have meant nothing. Moscow had mainly symbolic value. Don't forget that Napoleon took Moscow and he still lost.
True, The Soviet government had already relocated to Kuibyshev further east though Stalin stayed in Moscow.
Moscow was a main rail road hub, that is why it was VERY important.
But then again, there is a weird opinion, that if germans reached Moscow, they would just parade through it. Not at all, it wasnt like Paris
@@user-me5oq3kl4h Exactly. It would have become a Stalingrad on a far huger scale
@@user-me5oq3kl4h I heard it was chaos in Moscow when people got news about incoming germans. Lot of plundering and fires.
The hope was that, after talking both Moscow and Stalingrad, the USSR would become demoralized enough that they would agree to a peace treaty.
Of course, in hindsight, we know that the USSR would have likely never given up until the last person dropped dead.
Excellent. Short, concise, and informative.
I could not imagine fighting in that unbearable cold cold weather, must have felt like hell on earth
8:46 The Germans got lost in Ikea like the rest of us.
the germans that got lost in IKEA are still there trying to put the furniture kits together
@@robertdavey2660 hans ze description broke!
It’s an old russian joke.
Why do I just imagine 20 years after they find a group of Germans who thought the war was going on, having fortified in a part of the ikea store no one got to for years like they were japanese hold outs?
When the temperature drops, the Russians turn in to night walkers.
Game over
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When you winter tough Siberian soldiers fighting Germans that wasn't cold weather proof the game is def. Over
It was inevitable that Nazi Capitalism would not defeat Communism.
@@wuppas Nazi: National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus)
@@Skousen77 Nazi came out from capitalism,it is a capitalist product.
Outstanding documentaries! These are my favorite!
Man really starting to love your videos. Brings me back to watching war documentaries when I was a kid on the history channel when it was really history
Never ceases to amaze me how brutal this was.
I'm living in Lobnya. Krasnaya Polyana [KP] is some 5 km away from my house. As a local resident I know that Germans have reached KP on November 30th 1941. They were exhausted by continuous battles and slept undressed, with weapons in their hands and wide open doors afraid of the night attacks.
In a good weather from the roof of the highest building in the village they really could see a star on the spire of the Northern River Station of Moscow with their binoculars. Northern River Station had been built a year before the war on the opposite side of Moscow channel next to Khimki (IKEA).
One day a battery of German howitzers arrived to the village, so artillery men started to prepare the guns for firing all day and went for the night to a local house. Elena Gorokhova, the mistress of that house, by coincidence, turned out to be a German language teacher at a local school, which she kept silent about at the risk of her life. On the same night, her neighbor (her name is not known) set off on foot across the front line to Moscow. She managed to get to the command of the Red Army and soon the Wehrmacht's howitzer battery was shelled from the long-range large-caliber guns making all German howitzers inoperative. A couple of days later a general offensive began and Krasnaya Polyana was liberated.
Thanks for sharing. Fascinating eyewitness story.
One point to note that whilst there were no tall buildings in Khimki there is a place locally known as "little Switzerland" an area of high ground near Khimki which became after the war a favourite place for senior KGB officers to live and also had a KGB holiday camp and communication centre of radio masts (Moscow Dynamo football club has its training ground). This could have been where the Germans got a good view of the city.
Fascinating video. Excellent history lesson.
The battleground around Borodino and Mozhaisk is covered with plaques denoting various local battles. There's a great and fascinating walking trail near Borodino and I did it in September 2014.
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@@lenvap5400 Borodino has nice landscape for battles if u are in defense
"That time you were almost at third base"
The train did not go through the tunnel.
It's almost comical how often they got so close to winning the war and then dropped the ball.
I bet the Nazi's had a nasty case of blue balls as they were retreating.
@@JohnSmith-nj9qo “case blue”
"Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades"
Exelent Mark.Keep doing what you are best of .
Thank you for these informative videos.
THIS CHANNEL IS OUTSTANDING, GREAT JOB MARK
My great-grandfather was a Siberian soldier, along with my great-grandmother who was a field hospital medic. He unfortunately got struck by a German bullet in the shoulder later in the war, though they both made it out with their lives. His brother was KIA and a plaque was constructed in his dedication and bravery (cant remember where, a small village in-between Chelyabinsk and Yekaterinburg). Both of them passed away this summer. May God bless their souls.
God bless.
Siberian reinforcements freed up from the chinese border and rushed to moscow..were the absolute deciding factor imho...the winter conditions meant very little to those hardy men
At the same time my 7 year old grandfather and his mother were sent to Siberia. USSR soldiers came to our home in Latvia and they had 30 minutes to pack the bags. Luckily they took goat with them. The milk from goat saved their lives. And for that reason I am able to write this comment. War is brutal from all sides. God bless peace and friendship.
@@robdyson4990 Those troops were mostly from the Urals and Mongolia.
Thanks for sharing! We can never forget their sacrifice for the good of humanity. Much love for the sovjets and russians and respect from Switzerland!
Love your videos,
Just reading blood red snow and would love a video with your thoroughness and knowledge detailing the events in the book and guided on a map.
Love Marks videos! When I hear the intro music I feel like im manning position preparing for an offensive!
Always love the content of your videos. The advance on Moscow is one of the most fascinating times of the war. Great video Dr Felton.
...well if ya LOVE IT so much- then why don't ya MARRY IT?!!
My grandfather was an Officer behind the line near Smolensk and Yelyna in 1941-1943. He never talk about the war either with my older sister. I think there happened horrible things with the fights against partisans... Hitler paranoid idea to destroy Russia ended at the beseresina river in an Desaster as for Napoleon.... Make love, not war. ❤️😢👍🤔
The Soviets would of moved West anyway.
I thought I knew everything there was to know about WWII, but your videos prove otherwise. Great stuff!
Excellent presentation. Thanks.
There needs to be an international law that when the temperature drops below freezing, everybody goes home until next spring.
Im in for that. Cheers
And just leave your weapons here. We'll give them back when you come again in the spring. We promise.
That was a unwritten rule In the ancient days of warfare
@@elbucho8867 Yup. 2 Samuel 11:1 (NASB) "Then it happened in the spring, at the time when kings go out to battle, that David sent Joab and his servants with him and all Israel, and they destroyed the sons of Ammon and besieged Rabbah."
Like the Taliban
8:44 clearly the Swedish got as far as the Germans but using different methods.
The trick is to not bring everything with you, but to bring pieces and make the locals put it together.
They have the supply chain down pat, including a never ending stream of meatballs and lingonberry jam!
Considering Moscow has the highest share of German vehicles per capita in the world, the Germans aren't doing that badly either.
@@skydiverclassc2031 "Hans, I have the parts - now please assemble this Panther tank ..."
Said weapon being capitalism and flat-pack furniture.
Excellent video. Thanks.
My grandfather wasn't in WW2 but he did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.
Am I only one who gets goosebumps at 03:30 when Mark says "...Germans were only 87 miles from Moscow, Martial law was declared in the city" and plus Soldiers marching to meet them with additional explosions in background.
Scary stuff, but very, very well made Mark. +++
Ikea got further than the panzers .. Now thats something I never thought I would ever type.
@Jay Jay Victory by meatballs not bullets.
Clausewitz said that war is politics by other means, well trade and commerce is war by other means
When i hear the Mark Felton Production theme song; I automatically hit the like button before I see any video. I know from experience what follows is a detailed; true; and interesting production!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good work Mark!!!!
@@markholroyde9412 Ok Mark; please leave out "True" from my comment!
I never heard about Cremlin camouflage action before. This is very interesting! Thanks Mark, your channel is simply great!
8:44 Ahhh I see now, the Germans never took Moscow cos they got lost in Ikea. Don't worry fellas, it happens to everyone at some point...
They gorged on the swedish meatballs...
@@Tuleyne Who could resist?
The entire German division retreated into that SCP location.
@@Tuleyne And then when they were ready to leave they ran into the icecream counter just before the exit. They had no chance!
Hans, stop shooting at ze russians and look at zis couch!
Mr Felton thank you .Your great productions are very much appreciated.
I cant believe how I missed this vid when it came out even though I've been Subbed, with Notis for years.
Very interesting, and rewarding, for all those whose passion is History. Thanks!
what if 600k of your men get captured? Boy, just make 11 new armies
Next war against orcs will be different. There are less of them and more of good guys
Thank you for making my quarantine just a little better with these videos. Please keep em coming
Love your work
Thank you, Mark! Thank you for your unbiased presentation of the historical material. Have you probably read what we write after watching your videos? Those who are personally affected by it write. Like me. My grandfather disappeared there. Are there any "lucky" survivors? This is unlikely. And there are those who just went to the site..I was looking for material... or by accident. But! Everyone perked up. They left all their opinions. Negotiated material. And then we discussed it here. This means that all the victims and all the misunderstandings that led to the tragedy were not in vain. Caring people think about these tragedies. We have such a motto after this terrible war: "No one is forgotten and nothing is forgotten!" It's not for revenge. And for the memory of the madness of mutual destruction.