BMW M2 Competition - 7.52,36 min Nordschleife HOT LAP sport auto Supertest
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Onboard sport auto Testdriver Christian Gebhardt in the BMW M2 Competition on the famous Nordschleife.
Laptime: 7.52,36 Minutes
You can read the whole test in sport auto issue 11/2018
(order here: shop.motorpres...)
or on www.auto-motor-und-sport.de
Laptimes were clocked by Race Navigator:
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Hi guys, just one more information: The official lap time of BMW M testdriver Jörg Weidinger in the M2 Competition was 7.50 min
I think compared to a Audi TT RS it is too slow even with the engine power of that new and stronger Engine from the M4! You can see it on the speeds in the different parts of the hot lass! Don‘t geht me wrong guys, i ordered a M2, i love them, but it is really disapointing to see a M Competition driving like that.
piu' lento di honda civic type R di 9 secondi ... ???
zwei Sekunden geht grad noch so, mit allerletztem Willen und zwei Augen zudrücken plus fünfe gerade sein lassen in Ordnung Herr Gebhardt... ;)
Matches your M4 time.
@@fastwithjesus5722 hello, this is the correct lap time of the Type R by SportAuto with stock car, not the tweak car of Honda.
8:01 www.flickr.com/photos/dedethecollector/27882763419/in/album-72157664616883148
I think this war for getting the best laptimes is a bit nonsense. Yes, we expect it to perform, but...how much fun do you have doing it? Are we pro drivers? For the 99% of us, i dont think so. For me these M cars are the hell fun as daily drivers, weekend/road trips and ocational track day cars. If you want something faster get a porsche 🤣 (Out of the box I mean)
If you want fun and don't care statistics, then why not an Alpine A110? Cheaper tyres, cheaper on fuel, cheaper on road tax... Less is more! :)
@@TassieLorenzo You can get an 86 and slide 24/7 on prius tires. I'd say it's even more fun than the alpine. There's fun in competition and bragging rights. It's part of automotive world and human life in general. We strive for success and improvement for ourselves, but it is also done to gain approval of worthiness from others because we are a tribal species and always need to fit in.
I think this is just the competition between car makers.
Was darüber erzählen, dass Performance unwichtig ist und der Spaß zählt, und gleichzeitig damit prahlen, einen BMW M zu fahren…genau mein Humor 😅
Wenn’s um den Spaß geht, tuts auch ein e90 325i für 5k!
The whole fucking point and fun of a sports car is to be fast..
With just Super Sport? Great result!
Not really
Yeah those tires suck on the ring 😂
No cup2 tyres....thats the Reason. The Driver is good and no idiot you internet heroes....
Zombie Head wtf?
Where is cup Tire on the Civic Typ R?And are 7 sek faster ????
6:18 AAAAAARGHHHHHH!
Think he was upset about that ridiculous understeer.
Due to transmission changing gears...
ravenstylea2 Because the gearbox shifts back to 2nd gear automatically even if it is set to manual.
According to the article in "sport auto" he braked a bit too late and was upset with himself.
That's why the gearbox shifted back to 2nd gear automatically even in manual mode.
M2 is meant to be fun more than fast... it's fast enough anyway.
That is an excursion
Just to remind you, the BMW M3 CSL did a 7:50 in 2003.
@Zombie Head No DSG, single clutch automated manual. "Bigger brakes" in the CSL were the weak point of the car, it is a very documented problem. 12 horsepower more than standard car because of slight changes in heads/cams but mainly the new open carbon fibre airbox and about 100kg lighter, with first ever carbon fibre roof and thinner racier seats to save weight. Software only made shifts more smooth but the physical limits of a manual transmissions are nothing you can improve on. (until Lamborghini did in 2011 with their new Aventador). The BMW M235i manual which isnt an M car either, has made the same lap time with the CSL in Auto Sport magazine (sorry if wrong magazine, its easily findable in youtube). The M2 shouldve been a second faster, while the M2 Competition shouldve kicked it into the stratosphere. With the power alone and the brand new stiffer chassis paired with the dual clutch transmission, even though the tires seemed to be the problem, i would expect that with these tires (and smoother driving than the ARGRHHG in the video) the M2C would make a 7:49. It is a shame, i didn't even know it was this slow on a track, because i would never believe it. I never even considered it as a chance. Love the fact they made it though.
@Zombie Head i wouldnt go as far as to overtake the M4CS, BUT it could hold a candle with around but less than a second laptime. Still, you cannot compare apples and oranges. The CSL being a CSL didn't get anything major like a V12 with 600 horsepower. It was just BMW taking the chassis closer to its limit. What was CSL back then is standard today. Even the Z4M had a much stiffer chassis than the E46, imagine these new ones. Kinda like the new Toyota Supra has more chassis stiffness than the mighty Lexus LFA.
The ARGRHHG in the video got it to within 2 seconds of the BMW M test driver.
@@SpeedFreak0122 um what? Im not sure i understood you
You mean back when BMW still built real ///M cars. Back when enthusiasts and car guys were at the top like Wolfgang Reitzle.
Lol 0:40 "audio jungle". So you put a free sample of a paid tune from stock website, this is unprofessional and just lame
Ich bin...... unterwältigt.
Nur mal eine kleine Einleitung, bevor die Fanboys sofort mit den Mistgabeln auf mich losgehen:
Das Fahrzeug trägt die Bezeichnung "Competition" (Wettbewerb) und stammt von der M GmbH. Das bedeutet, dass man bei dem Fahrzeug auf der Rennstrecke durchaus ein paar gute Rundenzeiten erwarten darf. Da sind wir uns alle einig, oder?
So. Und nun zu der Performance des M2 Competition. Das Auto fährt eine 7 min 50 s auf der Nordschleife (gefahren von einem M GmbH-Testfahrer).
Das Auto wiegt zwischen 1625 und 1650 kg und das bei dieser Größe! Ich frage mich, warum die Hersteller bei solchen Modellen nicht radikal Gewicht entfernen (unnötige Komfortfeatures raus und großflächigere Verwendung von Faserverbundwerkstoffen)? Schaut mal zum aktuellen Mazda MX-5! Er erfüllt die Sicherheitsanforderungen für den Crash, hat ebenfalls den Großteil des Elektronikkrams und wiegt dabei nur 1.188 kg bei 184 PS! Klar ist der Mazda von seinen Abmessungen her kleiner, aber wozu braucht man einen aufgeblasenen 2er, der von innen dennoch kaum Platz hat?
Gerade bei den kleinvolumigen Modellen, sollte mehr Manufakturarbeit und Experimente mit leichten Anbauteilen sowie Verzicht von unnötigen Kabelsalat und Schrott-Gangets betrieben werden - da schmerzt es nicht so, wie in der Großserie. Aber nein, es wird immer mehr in Multimedia und Infotainment gesteckt. 9847604986576589 Verstellmöglichkeiten für jeden Mist. Wer nutzt das bitte und verstellt jeden Tag irgendwelche Einstellungen? Mit all diesem Kram wird die Ablenkung am Steuer nur noch gefördert, weil mittlerweile fast nichts mehr intuitiv geht und oftmals die physischen Schalter fehlen.
Zu den 7 min 50 s kann ich nur sagen: Schaut auf die Rundenzeitenliste der Nordschleife und ihr werdet überrascht sein, wie schlecht diese Leistung im Vergleich zu schwächeren oder deutlich älteren Fahrzeugen eigentlich ist... Und das Ding kostet über 70.000 €, wenn man mal das M-Driving Package und die M-Sitze reinbaut... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_N%C3%BCrburgring_Nordschleife_lap_times
Der M2C könnte viel mehr, darf aber nicht. Das muss einem bewusst sein, wenn man sich die Rundenzeiten und Tests anschaut, um da objektiv seine Meinung zu bilden. Der M2C darf nicht schneller sein als ein M4.
@@GeneralBritt da ist aber noch genug luft zum M4 Competion. finde den M2 schön nur leider sind die 7:52 ein Armutszeugnis .
So many haters. I get my M2 Comp on Friday :D For the price the M2 Comp is a solid car. Comes loaded (only need a couple options like Harmon Kardon, DCT). Compared to Cayman S at 30k CAD more its a no brainer.
Hi, Sport Auto, would you please upload the video of the 1M Coupe Nürburgring lap? I only saw the magazine review, It would be fascinating to have the video :)
LOL, Sportauto did a 8:15 with the 1M. 23 seconds slower than the M2 Comp.
Internet heroes have no idea how terribly set up the 1M was. Understeer to snap-oversteer, poor transitions... fun at slow speed but you absolutely have to mod suspension if you want to push it even a little.
Gone Racing No you are the internet hero, I own the 1M and I track it, just check my channel and learn how you suppose to enjoy a 1M on the track, that sudden transition into snap oversteer is the thrill that some people dreamed of but can’t get from other road sports cars, it’s like riding a very wild horse, it takes skill, but if you have that skill then you would get more smile than other people who ride a tempered horse
Tim C LoL what, I care more about the dynamics behavior of the vehicle, not someone who can only read the numbers out of a onboard video
Is your suspension stock? Do you enjoy understeer? If so, good for you, stop being defensive and enjoy your car. Honestly, people criticise my M2 all the time, I just smile, enjoy it and never respond. 1M owners on the other hand tend to be very thin skinned.
Wow, lot's of complaints with regards to the M2 understeering based on this video. I track my M2 regularly and have never experienced anything beyond mild understeer. If anything, I thought the M2 had a very neutral handling right out of the box (Michelin SPC2 on mine). At any rate, nothing that a basic alignment, which is really a requirement on any car hitting the track aggressively, can't fix.
The problem is that a lot of people watch videos and never experience the car first hand. They are also Quattro or all wheel drivers. All they know is straight line action. This car is perfect
Cant deny that the M2 the vid has a shot ton of understeer though. Needs proper suspension and tyre setup…
To all the wannabe car abusers and drifters, match these numbers and you’ve done something!
gatekeeping having fun in cars.
That laptime is honestly quite underwhelming. Whole lot of more understeer and only 3 seconds faster than the Z4
And you have to listen to an S55 the whole time. No thanks, I'm keeping my 'classic' N55 M2. What's the point of chasing anything other than fun in a 4 seater coupe?
Why are you comparing it to the M4 CS, a car 2x the cost and has another 50hp? M4 CS time is pathetic, only 8sec quicker and it was on Cup 2 tires.
BTW chassis on the M2 Comp is the same as the M2 'classic'. N55 is already a long, heavy engine. S55 is even heavier, and you see the result, the driver dealing with understeer where a non-comp M2 would have more front-end bite and allow you to work the rear to trim your line. Hype is a funny thing, it can make reviewers say the same chassis is not as good as the 718 and then say it is as good when the only difference is an engine. The Comp should have had a shorter, lighter 4 cyl, for the same reasons the e30 M3 had a 4 cyl instead of a 6. That's 100kg taken out of the front immediately and all the engine weight between the axles. AMG can get 400hp out of a 4 cyl, BMW could easily do so and the resulting car would be a legend.
People are clueless. Lap times with different drivers, conditions and tyres don’t mean much comparatively. Stick to your PlayStation games.
BMW has lost their touch car should have ran low 7:40s not 50 the Audi ttrs is quicker and it shouldn't be its awd vs rwd and basically the same HP but also tires could make a huge difference with lap times
7:48-7:50 "The sound of understeer" by BMW.
Lol, nicht mal mein altes Z4 hat so stark untersteuert! Eigentlich er war perfect "neutral".
The M2 is a complete sham! BMW made it slow on purpose, to keep it from outperforming its other Ms. it's just pathetic that this new M is posting same times as Ms before it, we are supposed to be moving forward and bettering ourselves...
are they getting cheaper or are they getting slower, downgraded and nore expensive?
To them it’s only their 2 series. They didn’t build it for top speed.
The truth.... @ 6950 RPM it is struggled by the Software ...
Schon echt schnell aber für mich sieht es etwas überfahren aus. Ich könnte aber auch falsch liegen.
Well.. what a shame.. but it shows once more, the car was not given the full monty from M .. pitty
Mit über 1600 kg viel zu schwer.
///M-Invasion der ist 50kg leichter wie ne vollwertige m3 limo 😂
Der kostet aber 25.000,-€ weniger 😂 - Erst denken, dann schreiben...
Boost Wars wir reden hier über das gewicht und nicht über den preis... vielleicht selber vorher mal denken und dann heulen? 🤷♂️
Cen go ist leider nicht leichter
Da gibt's auch Zeiten mit 7:12 wenn abgespeckt wurde😂😂
Damn that is fast! Anything under 8 minutes...wow!
Megane 4 rs trophy 7m40 ahaha
Megane 4 rs trophy r 300cv 7m40 vs m2 cp 500cv 7m52…
In what planet does a stock M2 comp have 500 hp?? check your stats!@@mikers2f4rt
Driver was pissed off at the transmission, that's funny. LOL!
Alfa Stelvio has the same lap time..... poor little car
Lot of understeer for a competition series. I’ve seen multiple drivers say the same thing. Must be the added weight of the engine.
Not too impressed with the track time.
Who cares about track time... no one.
It Beats an 6.3 L AMG 2012 C63 ... and thats enough for me 😎👍
But loses to 718 Boxster/Cayman S ... by 10 seconds...
It also loses to a Honda Civic Type R by 7 seconds! Ha!
Noah Raz 🤫 don’t tell anyone, they might get upset
And loses to an a45s hatchback amg lol.. bmw fan boys
@@ramihourani5820 the amg has More Power and has awd the bmw has rwd
An die ganzen InternetRambos hier! Was heult Ihr so rum?? Ob er 7:50..7:52 oder auch wenn er 8:00 brauchen würde. Seit Ihr alle verfickte Rennfahrer und fahrt jeden Tag oder jedes Wochenend auf der Rennstrecke?? Wohl kaum!! Und selbst wenn würdet Ihr 11 Minuten (wenn ihr gut wärt) brauchen. Das ist ein Tolles Auto und reicht alle mal für ein bisschen Adrenalin auf der Autobahn oder Landstrasse. Immer diese Stammtisch Zahlen (Pimmel) vergleiche! Dan ist der TT-RS schneller..und jetzt?? Bin ich schon gefahren, genauso wie den S 5 und RS 5. Das waren mit die Langweiligsten Autos ever die ich gefahren bin troz der Leistung, weil sie einfach null Emotion zeigen. Also kommt runter diese Autos werden zu 90 % niemals eine Rennstecke sehen und dafür sind sie schon ziemlich sportlich und geil!
Hehehe not much faster than the megane rs 275 trophy R🏆
I think BMW should care about weight saving. How come M2 is only 10kg lighter than M4? It is 1600~1650kg. That is 100~200kg heavier than Toyota Camry..The lap time of 7:50 for a company that has been making sports cars for centuries isn't really impressive to be honest.
It all tires mate itd be atleast 5-10 seconds faster on cup 2 tires
Why didn't they upgrade at least the front tyres to M4 spec? 245 is too narrow on the front, especially on the M2C, wich is at least 80 kg more on the front with that engine and the big brakes and heavier wheels. Even on the lighter M2, the Michelin PSS in 245 have a really hard time on track. The Z4 got the wider tyres from the M4, and is lighter as the M2C. This is one of the reasons, why it is almost as fast, even if it's down on power.
schön eine Runde geballert und direkt raus danach... Warum keine Cool-Down Lap?
There's lot stock og M2 onboards from ring where guys do ~7:40. M Gott says he did 7:34 in stock m2 .
Warum bekommt der nicht die neuen 4S Reifen von Michelin? Die Super Sport Reifen sind veraltet und vergleichsweise langsam. Kein Wunder, dass die Rundenzeit so schlecht ist.
@Bill Gates Wahrscheinlich gab es sonst kaum Möglichkeiten um den M2 langsamer als den M4 zu machen. Auch der Z4 wäre auf 4S Reifen wahrscheinlich viel zu schnell. Ich bin gespannt wie der neue 3er rumfährt. Als M340i (oder so ähnlich) wird es den ja auch geben.
Die beiden Reifen liegen in der Trocken Performance ziemlich gleichauf. Mancher findet den PSS sogar besser. Erst Nässe hat der 4S den deutlichen Vorteil zum PSS.
M2 is the really nice car
and his driving is really smooth
only one problem is its weight...
That’s why its so good to drive on the road.
The prev m2 with the N55 is not much slower, is this true?
I believe one of the Apex drivers posted 7.40 in a standard original M2!
If that was a bridge-to-gantry-time during Touristenfahrten it's not comparable with a full lap in the supertests. You may add about 15-20 seconds.
Is the S55 motor much heavier than the N55? Lap time is not as impressive considering the E9X and E46 CSL were lapping similarly so many years ago
Michelin Port cup tyres, that’s why
The r33 GTR made a lap time of 8 minutes back in the 90s
i just hate the sound of the S55. inside and out. the N55 and B58 sound SO much better
"When a 300hp renault make 12 second less than you on the nurb"
yep , but it was nurb spec, without back seats - true king for stock car is Civic Type R
In wich world is RS faster? This car is even with semi slick (m2 has sport tires) 3 sec slower
An it is the trophy R
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@@y.spycher lol, the M2 competition has 410hp and an automatic gearbox. It is a shame that a Renault with 300hp and a manual gearbox can do better just because it has "semi-slick" 😆 The Megane RS is just a way better race car.
@@Pierronimo8764 The M2 is not a 'race car'.
It is a fast, comfortable, luxurious, 4 seater coupe.
It is so much better than the Renault in so many ways. They are not designed for the same purpose.
Fahrwerksabstimmung und Reifenwahl verstehe ich nicht. Da wäre bei der Basis so viel Zeit zu holen.
Malteser3535 ... Fahrwerk is ok ... aber hätten den mit Sport Cup 2 ausliefern sollen..
1.8 megan🤔🤔🤔🤔. 7.40
Der Durchschnittsverbrauch in der Runde würde mich mal interessieren 😂😂
2 sec less is not a big number imagine your focus is off...2 seconds gone. I bet you could do better.
Hmm i See a lot of understeer
But M2 got a stock speed limit at 250 km/h right?🤔
Dan Theycallme he has the drivers package
Hallo Sport Auto Team, worüber regt sich Herr Gebhardt zwischen ca. 6:18 und 6:30 auf?
Und wurde im manuellen oder Automatikmodus gefahren?
Laut Artikel hatte er sich verbremst und damit vermutlich eine bessere Zeit versaut.
Meeeega Enttäuschung BMW M!!!!! Z4 fast genauso schnell mit 70 PS weniger!
Stephan Büdel grösste manko des m2 ist einfach das gewicht! beim competition hätten die dort ansetzen müssen, aber dann wäre der kostenfaktor für bmw wieder zu hoch. man munkelt ja noch über nen m2cs... aber ne fehlende armlehne und ein bisschen alcantara ändert auch nichts daran, dass er für nen kompakten einfach viel zu schwer ist
Tieferer Schwerpunkt, etwas weniger Gewicht, bessere Reifen, deutlich breitere Spur. Da macht das Leistungsdefizit auf der NOS nicht mehr viel aus. Zumal der B58 im Z4 M40i auch gut nach oben streut und um die 360ps hat. Der Z4 wurde als Sportwagen entwickelt, der M2C ist nur ein normaler 2er auf Steroiden.
Und ein civic Typ R mit deutlich weniger Leistung,Geld und dazu nich Front Triebler 7 sek schneller,ach du Scheisse BMW???
@@johnnyblaze1372 Der Type R ist überhaupt nicht schneller. Orientier dich nicht an der gemogelten "offiziellen" Honda Zeit, sondern an der SportAuto Rundenzeit, da siehst du, wo der landet. Nämlich bei 8:15.
@@GeneralBritt ja ja auf mehreren Strecken hat der Typ R gezeigt wS geht,immer wieder Jämmerlich wie manche nach Ausreden ringen und Honda Mogeln unterstellen.Bei BMW läuft natürlich alles korekt ab.Komm halt doch ei fach den Rand und geh in die Ecke heulen,ja mich würde es auch anpissen wen ich so viel Geld ausgebe und ein Auto das weniger Leistung hat und deutlich weniger kostet mich auf dem Track oder Kurviger Strasse verbläst.
7:52 ? Das ist wirklich langsam für solch ein Auto. Hat auch nicht unbedingt was mit dem Gewicht zu tun, der 1er ist unterm Blech zu alt.
M Competition 😂
Schade das die meisten die einen 1er M fahren nicht wirklich Ahnung vom Motorsport haben. Das sind halt die Profilierungsfahrer...
Vor allem, vergisst mal die Rundenzeit, das Fahrwerk das Gewicht, achter mal drauf wie unglaublich krass der untersteuert.
Eine + 2 Tonnen Luxus Limousine a la E 63 ist wesentlich präziser auf der Rennstrecke.
Ist nicht die KOMBI version vom e 63 eine 7:45 gefahren?
Awesome video. My dream will be, to go to the Nurburgring one day! 😍🚗💯%
Don't dream, do!
718 Cayman S 7:47
718 Cayman GTS 7:40
Cayman S similarly optioned out is 30k CAD more... to save 3 seconds? LOL
2 less seats, more road noise, less practical, lighter, and the Cayman can only manage to be 5 to 12 seconds quicker. Oh dear!
20 Years ago an m3 CSL done the same....boring
20 years ago the CSL didn't existed ;)
And for the record, when the CSL came out in 2003, it was equipped with Michelin PS Cup tires which make quite a difference.
And the CSL would cost around €100k in todays money. And it didn't have a radio, AC, had carbon seats, roof, and track only tyres.
Do you want to say, that the tyres in the m2 are worse?
@@yetidh9ya couse they wäre very rar, the technical stuff is Not so expensive...
@@binerorinjo5493 The M2 tyres are very good street tires, the CSL tyres are very good semi-slick track tires.
So yeah on a lap as long as the Nordschleife it makes quite a difference.
Standard m2 comp brakes and discs? If so, how well did they perform?
The M2 became a boring car ...
Die unruhigste und unharmonischste Runde, die ich von Christian je gesehen habe. Entweder hatte er einen ganz schlechten Tag oder das Auto taugt nicht für die Nordschleife. Ich befürchte zweites...
Dachte genau das Gleiche. Das Auto macht es ihm aber auch nicht einfach. Für einen Hecktriebler untersteuert er viel zu stark
Die Reifen lassen im Verlauf der Runde auch stark nach. Die Rundenzeit ist aber kaum schlechter als von BMW angegeben.
Christoph Teichmann Das stimmt. Habe mir die Runde nochmal angeschaut. Bis zum Karussell läuft es rund. Erst dann kommt die Unruhe ins Auto. Er verliert zwischen Karussell und der Brücke auf der Döttinger Höhe ca 2sec auf den Z4.
Eine ganz eigentümliche Kopfhaltung, in Rechtskurven dreht er den Kopf fast um 90 Grad nach rechts, als hätte er ei Problem mit dem Sichtfeld seiner Augen...!?
what's the complain off driver in 6:30 of video?
mcasanchez understeer
The idiotic shifting-strategy of the DKG-gearbox. It shifts back to 2nd gear automatically even in manual-mode... :D
Auto-Up-Shifting at rev-limiter.
He's not using manual mode.
damn it whocan beat the honda civic typeR!!
Bestes M Car
9 sec slower than 2x times cheaper , 4 functional seats, 760 l , space capacity , family car CIVIC TYPE R... cRAP
slower than a civic jajajajaj
No, a full lap (not BTG) civir R is 8:01.
I don't understand why the driver looks out the side windows when he goes through the sharper corners and also leans over, maybe he thinks he is on a bike or why he is "sawing" at the steering wheel all the time, I'm sure this car can post a quicker time.....
What a shame .....a M3csl from 2003 and 50Hp less had do this in 7:50min! ! 15years prior ! ! !
And cost twice as much and weighed 215kg less.
@@yetidh9
you have no idea
The M3 CSL cost £58000 in 2003. That would be about £100k in today's money adjusted for inflation. The m2C costs around £50k.
The M3 CSL weighs 1385kg. The M2C weighs 1600kg. That's 215kg difference.
Which part do I have no idea about?
The CSL has carbon roof, carbon seats and interior, track only tyres, carbon airbox, unique engine mapping, etc It is a very special car. I think the fact that you can go out and buy an M2C that's just as fast for half the money is a bargain. Not only that, you can drive the kids to school in comfort, cruise on the motorway, sit in traffic and listen to the radio in the M2C. One is focussed track car, the other is a daily driver.
@@yetidh9
there are nearly 20 years between booth technique!
This says all !
15 years not 20. But I I know what you are saying and I agree that the M2C lap time isn't very impressive, but you need to remember it's on regular tyres and it's a full on road car. Fit cup tyres on the M2C and get a proper geometry setup and it would demolish a CSL. Then strip out 150kg and fit uprated dampers and brakes and a CSL wouldn't know which way it went. I think a lot of progress has been made in 15 years. Like I said earlier, relatively speaking, the M2C costs half as much and it's a better all rounder.
Haters gonna celebrate
That’s trash the e46 csl did better than that well over a decade ago epic fail Bmw
so cool
This was made slower so as not to out perform the m3 m4
It's the same weight as an M4 competition. What makes you think it would outperform it?
The 2017 Civic Type R lapped the Nordschleife in 7 minutes 43.80 seconds. Am I missing something; I thought the M2 was supposed to be faster than a front wheel drive Civic?
It did it in 8:01 with exactly the same driver than the M2
Yes, you're missing something. Unless you really believe the Type R is faster than a 997 911 GT3 RS.
This M2 is 8 seconds faster than the Type R.
Wie kann da ein Alfa Romeo SUV schneller sein?
all these times are BS, different tires, conditions, and the list goes on. enjoy what you have!!
Ok die Reifen bauen eeeeecht stark ab das sieht man krass. Sollen das die Reifen sein die man vom Werk aus bekommt? Also wenn ein Rennstreckeneinsatz geplant ist würd ich dann doch die Reifen ändern. Aber Leute ich kann Euch versichern kein Auto hat so ne krasse Ring Abstimmung wie die M´s da könnt Ihr mal sicher sein. Bitte vergleicht das Auto auch nicht mit Autos von anderen Kategorien.
All this speed stuff in getting crazy... the best car I have ever driven was a 1971 Mercedes 220 d.... slow as a turtle...but the feel and the handling was the best...
2003 ist der M3 CSL mit 50 PS weniger ohne Turbo aber mit ca. 220 kg weniger bereits eine 7:50 gefahren, also keine so starker Leistung , weil einfach zu schwer. 😕
And a civic Typ R 320 BHP 7.43 on the Nordschleife???what the Fuck BMW more Power more Money and not eaven close to the Civic typ r😂😂😂😂😂
Der Einstiegs'porn' ist echt sehr gut gemacht. Aber das Auto ... ich weiss ja nicht, aber harmonisch sieht anders aus. Entweder stimmte der Reifendruck nicht oder die Reifen waren an sich einfach fertig.
Just lack of semi slick tires, numbers aren’t everything.
la macchina sembra avere non piu' di 350 cv. guadagna velocita' in modo lentissimo ... poi il retrotreno è incollato al suolo , mentre le ruote davanti hanno pochissimo gripp ... forse una pressione di gonfiaggio un po' troppo alta ... ?
Honda Civic type r 7.43.80 Lol
Emre Biber Ja die Japaner haben alles richtig gemacht. Mit Frontantrieb ein Top Fahrwerk und das Gewicht passt auch.
Official SportAuto laptime of the Type R is 8:15. Get your facts straight.
@@GeneralBritt sorry where is the video
@@gilbertoalvarez29 No Video from SportAuto, But you can find the supertest article here: www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/test/honda-civic-type-r-im-supertest/
It's in german though. Laptimes are on the very bottom.
@@GeneralBritt 8:15 is the old Civic Type R. What year are you from?
Those front tires got completely chewed by the sc3. Which tires does this use?
Kann mich den Kommentaren nur anschließen. Zu schwer und viel zu unruhig im Grenzbereich. Ein schönes Showfahrzeug.
this does'nt make no since 7:52min is to slow!compare to the civic typeR 7:43min its a big different..
Maybe this shows the M2 lovers what the car really is. It's just a tad lighter than the M4; it has nothing going on against its bigger brother, no matter how desperately people try to claim it's better to drive.
M2, i8, Z4 and the 8-series. All bad compromises that don't excel at anything.
go work unemployed loser
Ha Ha Ha Manual civic type R did it in 7 min 44 sec, the manual version of M2 Comp edition probably is much slower, pathetic...
Schade irgendwie, dass der Competition generell nicht so viel schneller ist als der normale M2. Den Sound fand ich beim alten auch besser.
🤦♂️... sigh, disappointing result but still a fun car though.
Holy mother of understeer. Wtf BMW.
Every car with front engine will understeer. That's the physic.
@@akceleracevideoblogy417 Not at all. The understeer can be removed with stiffer rear springs and stiffer rear swaybar.
almost no mistakes. of course not going 110% with a car you have to give back in one piece. And tires + Power are limiting factors - software change with maybe downpipe equals 80-90 HP more.
tbh you dont invest in a car which is simply too heavy ... this car is just another money grab machine by the m division... buy an older bmw put some serious mods on it and go on a track .
the m2 is just a show off car and maybe fun on the streets ... but not racetrac as you can see in the video
Pourquoi les BMW on un comportement flottant peut rassurant et des frein moyen ??
Inasane.
Next gen M4 with the light CLAR platform and s58 engine and 48volt mild hybrid will beat the shit out of the damn Alfa Giulia Quadrafolio
haha 6:31 or 7:45 all you need to know!
Slower than the master of understeer and "brakes overheater" TT-RS!! It did 7min 48s! Well done BMW! I would probably just put another 100kg of lead into the car...just to be consistent and be sure that the driver will explode completely... 6:31 !!
At least BMW did not cheat at all! As for the cheaters... btw. the CIVIC R FK2 was faster on "Döttinger Höhe" with 100hp less!
According to the article in "sport auto" he braked a bit too late and was upset with himself.
Honda 8.01 on Ring by Sport Auto. Please stop use the idiot Honda Time lap.
www.flickr.com/photos/dedethecollector/27882763419/in/album-72157664616883148
Hans that honda had a roll bar, no infontainment, no rear seats and different aero.
As mentioned in the comment above, a stock civic goes + 8:00
OMG so much understeer. That car deserves better tires.
Their foxused nimble sports car is slower on track than their luxury super saloon hah. F90 m5 with thr 7.38 ftww :D.
M5 is a supercar and way more expensive.
@8:31 reality kicked in hey...that stopping power
oje der arme kerl hockt in dem ding ja drin wie aufm scheisshaus
Beatiful.
That understeer at 6:02 though :-(
so its slower than Honda Civic Type R? and its costs how much more?
8 seconds faster, actually.
Ich bin den M2 Competition bereits gefahren und kann mich dem Tester nur anschließen: Super Funny. Macht echt richtig Laune mit dem Ding zu fahren. Schön heckagil. Die Zeit mit 7.52 ist auch absolut Ok mit Michelin PSS. Jaaaaa, der gute alte supergeile CSL ist 2003 bereits eine 7:50 gefahren...I know. Aber der M2 ist eine Gaudi-Maschine vor dem Herrn. Jeder der ihn besitzt kann sich glücklich schätzen....auch wenn andere unterm Strich schneller sind.
Der wiegt genau so viel wie meinen M3 CS. Sogar mehr.
Only racedrivers below...
Come on guys this is a superb car!
If you think this BMW with 410hp and an automatic gearbox is fast, then let me introduce you the Renault Megane RS TrophyR with only 300hp and a manual gearbox... When you get rekt by a manual car with 110hp less, you need to ask yourself some questions...
Thumbs up for going balls out!