DVC Member Benefits Changing? Paid Benefits? We discuss the Rumors...
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- Опубліковано 19 тра 2024
- In this episode, the team discusses the future of DVC benefits and the possibility of a PAID benefit model.
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Just more and more and more and more and... I think you've missed where the dividing line is for these 'extra cost' benefits. For members that are 'all in' - no matter what, yeah, ok - maybe Disney can soak them more. But for members that are on the fence like we are - this is just another nail in the coffin to stay away forever and spend our vacation dollars elsewhere. We've already sold one contract - and the other is hanging by a thread. After a while, the nickels and dimes become dollars - and despite what Disney thinks about their customers - they are not stupid.
Lol totally agree. I just commented about this video thinking they have all lost their collective minds. Very very strange.
So here’s what I have to say in this, my family and I have been DVC members for 20 years (would have been longer, but it took a while to convince the Mrs.) and have been visiting Walt Disney World since 1975. There used to be added value in the price of a park pass, now there is not. The state of the parks right now is the worst I’ve seen since the early 80s (a year or two after Epcot opened). There is no concept of delivering “Disney magic” anymore. When we were not DVC members we stayed almost exclusively at the Disney Yacht Club and were often provided upgrades and perks (access key for concierge level, room upgrades, view upgrades) at no additional cost. We used to get things for free that are now a charge, like lightning lanes. We used to have spontaneity and now everything is planned out on an app, that we are tied to the entire time we are in the parks. Annual pass discounts were included in my original contract with DVC as well as dining and merchandise discounts at Disney Springs. Included, as in on paper with the contract that was signed. Now I don’t have access to annual passes at all because I’m not currently a Florida resident. I’ve already paid for my “exclusivity” and now they want more? Absolutely not! If they were to go back to the Disney I fell in love with, I would have no problem paying a premium. The problem is, that’s never going to happen (not with this management team at least). They are losing money because of the way they are choosing to do business, my family and I had nothing to do with that decision and yet we are suffering the consequences of their actions. I am not going to sell my DVC interest, but I am not visiting the theme parks until a big change is made.
We've ALREADY PAID for them. Good lord "not a bad idea" - yes it is. What consumer tells the seller "Hey, it's not a bad idea to charge me more ..."
Agreed. Not paying extra for these perks.
My thoughts exactly. “I’d pay for some discounts..” what?? I mean we already paid to join an exclusive club - they need to just treat us like valued club members.
I agree. We already paid for being a committed member(not customer!). We pay with ongoing dues and maintenance and don't even get a stupid membership CARD! I will not pay a penny more for a benefit. Sorry Pete, but extra money for something that is just doing good business is not acceptable. Now if they gave back Magical Express or offer discounted park tickets (APs, aren't offered to out of state people and honestly I don't know if I would purchase it again ), then I MIGHT pay extra. For now, I will use my DVC points to "pay" for a place to stay while I visit family and friends or other Central Florida attractions. Disney is no longer a magical place or the Happiest Place on Earth.
@@joyceandersen5023 It's not just DVC, Marriott's MVC and Hilton's Grand Vacation Club have expensive annual dues and any time it looks like a worthwhile membership, they increase the fees/maintenance/annual dues if your home resort is popular.
We were one of the very first to buy at old Key West. The pool wasn’t even completed yet.
We have also been annual pass holders for decades . We just decided to not renew our passes because the reservation system is ridiculous and has prevented us for using our passes on several occasions. It is clear that Disney does not want annual passes and has no sense of loyalty for people who have supported Disney for years.
If DVC changes are not acceptable then we will be selling our points as well. Don’t know if anyone will read my comment but it seems that the current CEO is driving Disney into the ground . As people have commented.
Where is the magic? Nickel and dime is exactly what is happening and what a slap in the face to those of us who actually helped build this company. Poor management is happening and they will continue to lose their faithful
fans like me !!!
Blown away about your guys response to this idea. Feels like Disney have paid you off for this. To be completely on board as representatives of our community is just telling Disney…. Hey why not charge us even more!!!! What an excellent idea!!! With the huge increases in prices of the direct memberships the idea that they can’t add a couple more benefits in for free is madness!!
I agree, many of us pay $9.99 a month for something but we don't pay a fortune up front or behind that $9.99. Paying for member benefits is absolutely horrible 👎🏽
I'm sorry you've more or less given the go ahead to Disney to sell us more stuff that used to be free. The cost of the contract, the yearly dues, the gas/flight for transportation to FL, the meals consumed while there are already taxing the budget. To gouge us for more is unreasonable.
Are paid direct benefits really benefits?
I think this is the craziest thing. We’ve already paid for the membership. Why pay more? Is it really a discount when your paying for it? Who wants to work just to hand over all their money to Disney. The greed is starting to be over the top & almost sickening. Makes me almost want to hate what I used to love so much!!
I am appalled that you are actively supporting increased expenses for DVC. For sure, your resale store will be getting more inventory should your suggestions be taken up by Disney.
We bought DVC in Oct 21. The plan was to buy our APs when we made our first trip. Then they went away. Our guide had pointed out the discounted APs as a plus of membership. Very disappointed and our addonitis has gone away. DVC direct members should be able to buy APs. Resale also,but we paid top dollar and regret our purchase.
Today’s show seems more like DVC was the sponsor…
And y’all probably paid THEM for the honor of having them be your “sponsor” 😄
How about an up-charge for extra benefits that are on top of the ones that are already included? What is with this mindset of just giving your money away for things that you were already receiving?
I respect your show and generally agree with you. I don’t agree this time. While none of the benefits were promised in writing , they were selling points when purchasing my dvc. Also , if they offered these benefits to resale, even at a higher rate, why would anyone ever buy direct.
Naw. I am direct member from way back. I would not pay for what I once got for free. Especially for room requests. That borders on extortion. TOWL is not a must do for us but I would be so disappointed if there were a fee to access the Epcot lounge. I was considering adding on points but these rumors are me giving pause.
I love the Dis and DVC Fan, etc. but I wish there was always an opposing opinion at the table. This falls a little short on that prospective. Adding a paid upgrade is a gut punch to me as our direct purchase was already a paid upgrade for us. However, if this is how they justifiably pay for these perks then I will in all likeliness, begrudgingly hand over my money. If this perk extends to resale members (we are resale also) we would sell our direct contract and likely not purchase the poly tower we are considering until it hits the resale market.
Many of the benefits that you originally suggested would benefit local DVC owners since they have flexible access to the parks. There has already been a significant investment by members, direct as well as resale, given the money that is paid upfront for the contract as well as the yearly maintenance fee. This is not the same as another subscription…you don’t pay multiple thousands of dollars to Netflix or Hulu and then need to also give them a monthly fee for an upgraded product.
the DVC california activies were yoga in the park (adventure trail in CA adventures) or a walk through the park (also CA adventures) before the park opens. You got a Jamba Juice smoothie at the end. I found those worthwhile, getting to explore the park a bit before it opens, just us and cast members. I also remember those being free activities to members.
This is the worst show I think you've ever done. Please make us give you more money for the privilege of giving you more money after we've already given you a ton of money.
Amen 🙏
Absolutely..it’s like please charge us more it’s ok and then a show will be complaining about the charges..geez
Please stop encouraging the ongoing dilution of our DVC membership! Regular inflation is bad enough without fees for currently free services and experiences.
The Greed never stops at GREED WORLD !!!
All of this seems like a mess when it comes to Direct vs Resale...a lot of these rumored perks you would pay for are only available right now to direct members, so if resale can buy into this, do they then get access? Seems unlikely to me bc then there is zero reason to ever buy direct again...
and... why is the discount for DVC at Disneyland only 10%?
I’m glad you mentioned about the ongoing nickel and dime process.
Like you mentioned majority of the people/some of the people will be very upset but still handover the Money.
I can say for myself and so since the nickel and diming started a few years ago it had a point for us and we said nope we haven’t been back to Disney World or Disneyland since then and we don’t plan to but
Disney cruises has not yet gone down the nickel and diamond route so we’re doing that and prior to Covid we went to Paris and Tokyo and at the time wasnot out of nickel and dime if any
The number of people that are sticking to it will be small but good for us lolol
Because disney cruises are already way overpriced to begin with.
If this happens Disney would loose a great deal of revenue in interest from direct buyers as many would go to resale who are now considering only direct because of the current benefits. The interest they charge is quite a hefty percentage.
Loose?
I personally think a nice benefit should be that if you're spending as much for a membership or the dvc that it should include complimentary park tickets
I honestly can't believe what I'm hearing?? DVC has stripped perks and benefits away and now to get them back you are willing to pay more for them? Yes, you talk about "let's make them creative" but honestly with Disney Co's history, do you not expect even the simplest of perks to end up behind that paywall once members start begrudgingly opening their wallets even wider? This is how we got Genie+ and $15 individual rides. WDW created Fastpasses a guest enrichment to the overall experience, but when it got too big and out of control they do what they always do and make it more expensive and a downgraded experience. It's time to realize that DVC as a whole is oversaturated. Yes, does it make money for Disney corp, of course. But how many blue card members are still complaining that they are shut out of things like Moonlight magic, or the most recent DVC member cruise...and that with the resale owners already excluded. So again, Disney's solution is to just "charge more" for those things we were offered as part of membership to help thin out the demand. Eventually, even direct purchasures will be held hostage-you get nothing but a hotel room or open your wallet sucker.
Your comment is right on point!
I feel like you’ve all drank the Kool-aid. All of the nickel and diming that Disney is doing and you’re all announcing you’re ready to plunk your money down? I’d just do it and not announce it if I were you especially if “DVC is listening”. I passed on DVC and am glad I did
Tickets are so obnoxiously expensive! We pay so much for monthly maintenance and the original cost. I don’t want to be nickel and dimensions for more. Increase the point cost.
Any rumors on Tables in Wonderland?? Definitely missed the benefits of this card.
I hope they bring it back!
paid benefits are not benefits …they’re a purchased up sell. Our last visit in January was such a disappointment in service and cost. talking about room selection…I requested consideration of an accessible room..close to the main building. What we got in response was…take the elevator!… and a unit close to the entrance of the resort…with only one handicap space for the entire unit…….so much for a welcome home attitude. It’s tiring when specific requests are mentioned and confirmed during reservation, then upon arrival..what you get is disregard and an attitude of put up and be just take what you get. Not to mention a pull out matress that is 1 inch thick with bars protruding ..
More money for more benefits…don’t think so ….Disney, you can do so much better…because you have been better….please stop biting the hands that are feeding you!!!
They got 50K from me already, plus my AP costs, merch, food and all are rising -also many other splurges when we are there. As a member out of state, nah....... the locals can float the extra perk costs, since they'll be the ones using them most. No more pennies, nickels, or dimes from me.
I've booked 2 bedroom villa @ Saratoga Springs and they've given me a free upgrade to a 2-Bedroom Villa Preferred Room( a few times)! Obviously, this is not guaranteed, but it was very nice indeed!
We've been DVC members since 2001 and all this just wants to make me sell my points. I'm kind of sick of Disney at this point.
I would think - that this upgrade of membership would be offered to direct owners as an attempt to increase direct sales
I gave a thumbs up because I know it helps and I love you guys and your show. But I don't agree. Paid extras are not perks. Setting up a group that gets more because they were able to pay for it, creating a tiered "class" structure does not leave a good feeling. "Them that's got shall get". Even if the price starts 'low', we all have ample evidence of how quickly it goes up one the precedent is established. I would not be able to pay more than I already do. I would end up being very resentful of no longer being on an even footing with fellow members when trying to get a spot in MM or whatever. Suddenly my points and membership is 2nd or even 3rd class because I can't pony up more money for an advantage over other members. We all paid out our money to buy a share in the club, but now some can buy advantages over others? It just leaves me with a really bad taste.
Another great video! I don't mind if they charge a subscription fee for new benefits, but certainly not at the expense of everyone else. I can get what I want if I pay extra, but now someone else can't get what they used to get...
Agree 100%. I said to my husband, if they do this more people will have to wait longer for whatever or be priced out. Bad, bad, idea! And yes we are both resale and direct owners.
I mean this is also the Lightning Lane model. As consumers were showing that we’re ok of taking advantage of whatever zero sum games they dream up. It’s awful.
I simply ask that Disney brings back on-site airline/baggage check-in and Magical Express with tagged luggage that "magically" showed up in our room when we flew in........these two perks truly made flying in/out effortless. I know......not an exclusive DVC perk of the past, but I still want them back.
I’m dying to have Airline Resort check-in back.
Been a member since 2019, been to WDW about 10 times for 6 night stay in that time. Never had it lined up with Moonlight Magic and even missed the Cosmic Rewind preview by two days.
Worked out for us once for MM and once for preview when Little Mermaid at Epcot opened a long time ago!
4 pm checkout. I get that with my Marriott status and it is fantastic.
A recesssion is coming soon, so they are going to have to be smart about how they get more money out of people, or they will feel this soon. We are new Direct (and resale) members as of Dec. 2021 and we have still been unable to purchase annual passes. THAT is what needs to come back for direct members. NEW and valuable benefits are going to have to be added for them to keep direct purchases viable. We bought 500 direct and 150 resale and we have absolutely zero benefits worth it from our direct points at this time.
Sounds like you may have got taken for a ride but perhaps things will get better for you.
That is absolute BS!! I would be very very angry if I were you. And these people on the video are essentially green lighting/endorsing a plan for you to pay more for those benefits. Outrageous
This!
Dining plan back?
Thank you for mentioning Disneyland! !59 for oogie boogie! Even $10 off for DVC would have been nice.
Great show as usual. On point with the things we want and are willing to pay a little extra for.
It was nice to talk to Peter and Panda at MK last week at the haunted mansion store. Great work and love the show.
How about an expanded window for dining reservations
If these things were once part of the benefit to DVC ownership, how is it not just giving people what they originally were paying for?
You cant even get a “welcome home” any more. Back in 2000 when you entered the resort from the gate to your room you were treated special now your just a hotel guest, the magic has been going going almost gone
We are on the “low end” of the spectrum, 50 points. We moved to Florida and the pay here for jobs is bad. It could be years before we could afford a Disney trip, and we can drive there. And they keep increasing prices and adding pay for play like Genie plus.
I hope when Epic opens, that Universal will have their own time share.
The perception that things should become more exclusive based on paying even more looses sight of the members who made the initial investment to be a part of something exclusive to begin with. Constantly adding layers of pay walls truly dilutes the magical experience that Disney is built on.
I still love you guys, and love the show… but. One of the ideas that you guys all seemed to be floating around on this episode was actually quite disturbing to me. What makes it worse is that I’m sure that Disney listens to this show to help them gauge what’s acceptable and even what they might be able to get away with.
I don’t necessarily have a problem with Disney making a paid “perks” program. It’s something that I might even consider myself, depending on what’s included. But under no circumstances do I think that it would ever be acceptable to use something like this to give certain members any sort of preferential treatment In regards to room assignment or waitlisting… most certainly not at a members home resort, which they paid for. That idea is absolutely absurd. Everyone should be treated the same in this regard. I think something like this would become even more questionable when it comes to resale members. What if this is something that’s not even offered to a resale member?
An added perks program should add benefits for what you are paying. Not try to hinder basic functions that shouldn’t even be considered a perk. I think you could make the argument that the ability to even stay at a resort, other than your home resort might be a perk... but certainly shouldn’t do this at a members home resort. The only thing you could feasibly do is grant request based on the 11 month window… and I personally don’t even think they should do that. I do like some of the ideas that you guys had as perks, but not messing with room assignments and waitlisting.
Disney doing anything that puts room assignment/ waitlisting preference behind a pay wall and/or potentially even cuts resale members out of that process, would probably be the first thing that Disney has done that would make me outright regret becoming a DVC member. There are a lot of things that they’ve done that I haven’t liked, but this would be the only one to make me regret becoming a member completely. Messing with room assignment preference, is an idea that I definitely hope they run into legality issues with.. because it’s crossing the line.
I do think that offering resale members the opportunity to get perks at a higher cost is a good idea. In fact I’ve always thought that it would be a good business decision for them to offer a program that allows resale members to upgrade to full membership…. However, this shouldn’t involve room an assignment in any way.
This is my opinion, I guess we will see what happens.
Thanks for doing the show. :)
Too late for me. I sold my 2 resale contracts last year and, after my treatment with the Moonlight Magic event tomorrow night, the direct contract will be gone soon.
Do tell us what happened.
Pete ... I don't always agree with your opinions but I love your content.
I would love discounts for quick service dining. We are cutting out a lot of "eating out at a restaurant" to try to save money to go to Disney. We just ate out (I won't say the name) and got baby back ribs as a side-it was awful. I turned around and made them at home and was like these ones at home were so much cheaper and so much better. Nickel and diming can work so many different ways. Yes, it might be a sacrifice here and there, but it all adds up.
Maybe extra perks should be experiences that you are already paying for (lightsaber) BUT with extra exclusive sessions (not block out the standard Disney guest - like early morning/late evening). If a DVC member doesn't have a park reservation or park hopping privileges, you have a designated area to escort the guests into and out of the park for those experiences.
Disney needs to add in a Universal like Express pass system in to DVC. Buy into the upgraded DVC Tier1 and get one lightning lane pass for all rides, buy into Tier 2 and get unlimited lightning lanes for rides.
There would be too many people - the system would be overloaded and worthless
Agreed!
Enough is enough. No more $$. Most of the comments on the DVC fan page were in agreement that they are NOT in favor.
All the current and potential benefits are great for those living near WDW. But, we can only come once a year, and for us, there is nothing that I realize benefits from other than the discount when purchasing things at the Parks. We would definitely benefit from discount tickets, discount dining (including QS), and free # of LL rides.
After almost 4 years of not going to Disney world and just traveling to Aulani I could honestly say that I won't ever go back to that place again.
We travel to Disney this past June and it was a nightmare rooms were dingy.
What about a DVC dedicated Mobile App to put all your reservations, benefits, and account access all in one easy location? It took me 14 years to get my wife to be open to buying into DVC. We are disney fanatics and our children are as well. It would be awesome if I could pay my DVC bill, book and/or borrow points, and get all inclusive deals on one easy to use App. What do you think Pete?
We bought resale in 2010 (during a recession) for 60% off buying direct. I was grandfathered but not anymore.
Love the show. On the fence about buying right now. Hate being nickeled and dimed though. Feel like demand will drop for Disney parks in the coming months with the looming recession. Maybe some of the nickel and dimming will stop then.
I don’t get how it’s ok to be happy about paying more for things . Coming from
The Uk we miss out on so much anyway and the way we tend to holiday is 2/3 weeks at a time if your lucky a couple of trips a year but it’s not like we can come over for a weekend or a few days throughout the year .We brought dvc resale to save money and we were lucky to have brought a while ago when we still were able to get the blue card and the perks it brings and also knew the things we couldn’t get which is fine . But it seems there’s a culture that I’m
Hearing a lot that it’s ok , great take my money . I lost my husband a few years ago so am
Down to one income and having dvc allows myself and family to
Be able to holiday knowing that our accommodation is paid for .( the dues every year I have to save for and also save to get over etc so all this talk and the acceptance of yeah well if you want this it’s going to cost more, but that’s ok saddens me)
You can say “well you don’t have to buy into those things” but the fact we are even talking about it rumour or not just doesn’t sit right and sadly I feel that soon we will be priced out of the place that we have holidayed and spent and made many happy memories in🥲 🙈🤷♀️!
I hope it is open to direct and resale. It keeps the direct more valuable if you ever want or need to sell.
I would support no black out dates for DVC when they bring back the Annual Passes. I upgraded to the IncrediPass but still can’t renew my family due to when they expired right before Covid. It would be nice to give us some sort of priority for passes since we visit several times a year.
If these "added benefits" are in addition to benefits you already recieve, that's one thing. Buy if they are going to make you start paying to receive direct benefits, that's going to be a problem.
If they gave us a special registration day for runDisney alone I may shout "Take My Money!!!!" as fast and loudly as possible. Annual Passholder access would also be great.
My problem with disney it's getting too expensive. I just gave up my annual pass this year and will only do dvc resort stay only from now on.
Allowing resale-only buyers to pay a fee to access the current “direct member benefits” makes sense to me. What does NOT make sense is asking current direct owners to start paying for the benefits that have been included up until now.
Paying more money for things that were once included in your already-premium membership is not acceptable.
I’m surprised to see anyone on the panel be even partially open to that.
Having watched your stream about rumored changes to member benefits I felt compelled to chime in. Let me start by first saying that if Disney chooses to go the Pay for benefits route, any further tampering or reduction of benefits SHOULD not be tolerated. Laying out cash should be considered an addendum to the existing contract and not dismissed on a whim. My suggestions are as follows. Discounted or free benefits for direct purchase from Disney and additional suggested paid for benefits
1. Booking one year out on any DVC
2. Quick service discount
3. Additional maid service
4. Preferred parking at all four parks
5. 1 hr. early entry
6. After hours at all parks
7. Access to and creation of DVC lounges in all parks
8. Six month out dining reservations
9. In room bottled water
10. Free Disney Genie plus
11. Free lightning lane passes
12. Early virtual line queue
🤫🙂😇
I think this will only be offered to direct members because if they offer this to resale regardless of price difference then no one would buy direct. I’m buying into DVC but can’t decide if I should buy resale or direct. I’m going to wait and see what happens before I buy.
Just another micro transaction nightmare. People are already leaving DVC in droves this would just piss off more people. Stupid idea and good way to just piss off your most loyal customers.
If the benefit will be at all Disney Parks and resorts. Then I might pay for this and as long it by member number and not by contracts.
If the big discount all the parks passes and not only the USA parks. A bigger discount at the DVC resorts and cruise then I would think of paying for something like that.
Too Much Nickel and Dime. For the first time in 15 years, I haven't bought an annual pass to Disney World. We have even cut down our visit to Disney all together. Now we pretty much rent out our points.
The problem with the paid extra idea is that Disney will GAUGE us for that benefit. You can’t get reservations now. You don’t even get discounts at Copper Canyon at Wilderness Lodge! That bar was added when DVC added more rooms there! We are getting less and less and paying more and more. Our children are grown and one has his own points. That being said, the draw to keep paying more and more is not an attractive idea
IMO you have already paid for all of this by purchasing direct
Do you think they are trying to devalue the resale market so they can take resale over too?
No, it is the current economic climate.
We shouldn’t have to pay Disney is getting out of control
Thanks for giving DVC ideas on things to charge for :P
All kidding aside, thanks for the episode and all the work y'all do with the show!
The free bus service to and from the Orlando airport to the resorts were a big deal. They should bring that back along with the rest of them. We already paid a big premium to become DVC members, now to nickel and dime us throughout the rest of our contacts is totally twisted and evil.
Not okay with giving Disney more money! Speak for yourself! The reason most people buy DVC in the first place is to have first class Disney experiences while saving money! If we're going to be nickeled and dimed above the yearly maintenance and the substantial initial investments we already made, I think that I; as well as probably a few others; will probably be dumping my DVC. Been an owner for 14 years, and my family has enjoyed it yearly. Damn shame that they're pulling this b.s..
If the perks add-on is for more discounts, X number of free lightning passes, added events etc. fine but I find the nickel and dime-ing on waitlist priority and room requests disgusting. You bought and paid for those things with your contract and dues, any room request or waitlist should only be determined by time requested and/or need and on the same playing field as any other member. What's going to happen? "Oh no we don't consider your room location request because you aren't direct and/or perked?" What's the experience going to be like for people who have mobility concerns, other disabilities etc? No other hotel requires more money for room requests, especially where you already paid for a certain category.
I'm not a fan of shows based entirely on rumors. It would help if we could get the source of the rumor in order to weigh how to assess it.
Sounds like the old days when they had the Magic Kingdom Club card.
What was the Magic Kingdom Club Card?
Lol no. Its a bad idea. I paid my 27k upfront for years of deluxe accommodations. They're not getting another penny out of me for "benefits". Everything you mentioned SHOULD be included in my 27k and annual dues. You do not get to nickel and dime this. Its not OK.
As a long time "DIRECT" Member I think this is a Great Idea so long as they increase the amount of "PERKS" and somehow segregate the DIRECT from RESALE. The Resale Market will always pay less for Membership so that money would have to be recouped in a Perk Package. As a "Direct" Member I would want something to show that I am an "exclusive" or "Direct" Member with DVC. I would like to debate your suggestion Paul regarding Annual Passes. We have been AP holders for years and we just renewed in May from Platinum to Sorcerer and we were discounted. So my thought is what you are talking about is Members that are not AP holders yet that want to be, which you did not say it that way or at least I didn't hear it said that way. I Love this channel and I know other viewers would agree that you should do it LIVE now and then so as Members and Viewers, We could interact through chat and give our perspectives. Thanks for listening , Love this channel!
This is the most privileged comment I have ever read😂
It’s almost as if you’ve never learned to be humble lol
I can’t believe you actually wrote that you want Disney to “segregate”
Get some help. Please
the Blue Card/White card fight is garbage. All you are doing is trying to justify your personal choice of investment. The "well we paid more" manta doesn't hold water b/c there are OG DVC members who have paid waaaaaaaaay less on their points who are still able to use all these cherished benefits new owners paying $200+/pp think they are exclusively entitled to. Excluding resale owners from perks is just petty. Those points and dues were already in the system, just heald by someone else. Regardless of what the private sale price is, those points (and perks) would have been used by the original owner. It's like saying "you can buy my used car, but I need to take the radio out b/c you are don't the original owner and you cant enjoy the same things I enjoyed while driving it." Whats even funnier now is this discussion of paying DVC MORE money for things that used to be part of membership, further trying to distance yourself from these unwashed resale people. Meanwhile, DVC is fleecing you and you are happily obliging just for that satisfaction of "I paid more...again." If DVC needed to put these restrictions in place to begin with, maybe they should be looking at their own product and realizing that it is way overpriced and unattainable by many buyers and that's why resale is still so popular. likewise, we as owners NEED the resale market to stay strong. Sure life was rainbows and bunny rabbits when we signed our contracts, but tomorrow is never guaranteed and any of us can find ourselves in situations where we can no longer support the contract. Until DVC offers a direct buyback program, a healthy resale market only benefits us. -Signed a blue card carrying member.
My fear is that they will definitely price point this for the 1% thus leaving the majority of us SOL. Be careful what you say you’re ok with as I think in reality this is another step in a hierarchy cast system.
I am a 100% resale owner But I also don't visit Disney world. I would not mind paying a little extra little extra monthly or yearly for some perks at Aulani and Disneyland
The rest of us are not ok with giving more money
Bring back Valet perks…that was great perk
Give me genie plus and ligthning lanes included and dvc exclusive dining reservation allotment.
There is more DVC fans that are one foot out then still both feet in. DVC may have to be careful as the continue to balance money with customer base
I feel bad for Disney fans.I used to be a huge Disney fan but jumped ship completely last year .It sucked at first but now I feel better off without them .If only Disney ran their parks like Universal does.
Pay to play sucks in video games and Disney doing the same thing sucks even more. Went a couple months ago to use my DVC for the first time in two years. Hated the trip. The parks were dull and boring. The way overpricing of everything is insane. Definitely looking to dump my DVC. Have zero interest in going back.
Wow! This seems to be a very bad idea. First you pay a premium for your points then you get to pay extra for “benefits” that, I am sure, will not be guaranteed. (As they are not currently). This will be the best thing to happen to resale in a long time.
Disney has absolutely crushed middle class DVC families. Disney shouldn’t be charging DVC members any more money for anything. If anything Disney needs to support DVC families win some really discounts. I have 500 DVC points spread between two resorts and we are on the verge of selling off both of them. We love Disney but Disney is not loving DVC families.
No. Absolutely not. Pay to get a lower price on tixkets? Huh? The ONLY reason benefits were ever offered was to entice people to buy. They slightly mentioned that extra benefits are never promised, but......
As someone actively buying into DVC, resale only, I will absolutely be willing to pay for extra membership benefits if park access and room prioritization are included.
Will Disney go DVC only? DVC only Polynesian? DVC only Grand Floridian?
Paul…..premier parking at the parks.
Lighting lane free and discount AP.