We playing a dangerous game here, there is a difference between secular music and 'evil music' like smooth jazz is secular, sexyred pound town IS evil, inciting and glorifying sin is evil, let's be real.....
I think he’s taking about something he can relate to. He isn’t an actor, writer or publisher but I see what you’re saying. True followers of Christ know that they should guard the avenues of the soul: the five senses what we hear, see, taste, touch, taste, etc.
I can't believe I'm at a stage where I cannot stomach secular music, I've never been a TV person so that's never been difficult. But music was hard but God has been faithful
@@LethaboLovesOra Same. When I rededicated my life, music was my stronghold, and rap music particularly. But like Lecrae said, back in the 80’s early 90’s, there weren’t any gospel rappers other than Toby Mac, and that didn’t grab my attention. Then there were the Gospel Gangsters and T-Bone, and there were the closest I could get to hardcore gospel, without the cursing, but still not really interested….. Then I thought, what if I continued listening to these artists, and then all of a sudden, my favorite ones got saved, then what? So my prayer became, Lord, deliver me from the music, and lead me to music that is uplifting, beneficial and can feed my spirit. And he took my desire away over time. I was lead to Lecrae and Reach Records, and everyone under that umbrella in 2012, and I haven like back since. I can’t STAND to hear today’s music, rap or r&b! God and CHH changed my life…..
At the end of the day, it’s really all about discernment, because not all secular music is bad, everyone’s wired differently and everyone’s walk don’t have to be the same, it really comes down to what artists you listen to, how their songs make you feel and your reason for why you listen to them, nobody should be judging each other for what they listen to if it ain’t hurting anybody or themselves but at the same time, we definitely should be mindful of WHAT and WHO we listen to
Well I’d argue that some music is harmful. And we know that music can influence a culture. So music promoting not only sin by Christian’s standards, but music that promotes violence and sexual exploitation, yeah I think that’s harmful for all of us.
I always maintained the mindset that as long as it doesn’t drive you to sin or tempt you to do certain things, you can listen to whatever music you like. Obviously some people receive and react to stuff differently. I do have boundaries myself as I’m not out here listening to artists like Sexxy Red
Secular music was a STRONGHOLD until I came to the conclusion that it's either God or Satan ; Heaven or hell...I chose Christ! You can't go through life with one foot in Christ and the other in the world.
@omarsornoza Agreed wholeheartedly. I had to choose. I couldn't be lukewarm any longer. I do understand that all secular music is not bad. However, I often have to consider, what is the source of this musical composition? And lastly, I know the Holy Spirit will SPEAK directly, when we ask him to reveal truth to us. I think part of the thing people struggle with, is that they know, once they ask for the truth to be revealed, they have to make a choice. Some don't want to know the truth. My prayer is that the Lord reveals the truth to all who desire to see and hear it, as well convict those who aren't ready yet.
𝗣𝗿𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗿𝗯𝘀 𝟰:𝟮𝟯-𝟮𝟳 23 Above all else, guard your heart, for everything you do flows from it. 24 Keep your mouth free of perversity; keep corrupt talk far from your lips. 25 Let your eyes look straight ahead; fix your gaze directly before you. 26 Give careful thought to the[a] paths for your feet and be steadfast in all your ways. 27 Do not turn to the right or the left; keep your foot from evil.
Plot twist: not all Christian music is biblically sound or theologically accurate. Do we keep listening to it anyway? The Bible never said Secular vs Christian, but Good vs Evil. Discernment is knowing the difference.
We just had Priscilla Shirer on here and she said something so profound that will forever be etched in my head. “For many Christians the question is how close can I get to sin without crossing the line, but for the disciple it’s how close can I get to Jesus”. Something may not be inherently sin but is it elevating me? There are some that are called to the dark places and of course we need to know how to strategize and operate to get other folks into the kingdom without compromising ourselves. Not to mention we do have proof that A LOT of mainstream IS EVIL. So why not just save yourself the trouble of things sticking to you and just not listen. Overall this was a good listen and it’s ok to agree to disagree. I believe that as we grow with God, He will convict us of things and we will want to get rid of it.
For me most secular music has lyrics that doesn’t need to enter my ears as a person who trying my best to strve for holiness. And two this music triggers me because when I was living in sin secular music had an effect on me in different ways
I completely agree. I fell short many times because I listened to it and the spirits attached to those songs influenced me to do unholy things. I gotta get back on track cuz Christ is coming back soon.
I think that as Believers, we need to be careful trying to make a case for our sin. Then we become a stumbling block for others. Especially with the kind of influence God has blessed Lecrae with. Secular music has a disastrous influence over American culture. Drugs, killing, hyper sexual behavior, desensitization, imaginative living, & outright witchcraft is being preached through the dark secular music platform. It is not of God. The Bible teaches us to abstain from the appearance of evil Thessalonians 5:22. James 4:4 teaches that to be friends with the world is to be Gods enemy. We all struggle with something but don’t call sin good or okay just because you struggle with it. We must call a sin a sin even if we struggle with that sin. This was a long commentary on why those that struggle to let go of secularism should feel good about it. I love this brother and appreciate all he has done to create space for hip hop artists who want to serve God with their talents but please remember, God is the Creator of all things. The devil is emulating & perverting. Stop preaching the other way around.
It’s not that , but not all secular music is evil ! Miss Mary Mack is secular but is that evil ? A lot of Christian’s become so heavenly minded and can’t impact the environment around them .
"Jesus did not hang out with sinners, sinners hung out with Jesus" That's a really helpful way to conceptualize, thank you for sharing. I also appreciate the discussion around meat sacrificed to idols and how Paul talks about when you might choose for or against eating meat. I have been reading Revelation lately, and particularly the letters to the 7 churches. This topic seems to fit in will especially with what Jesus says to the church in Thyatira. He has a big problem with those who promote sexual immorality and food sacrificed to idols, but goes on to say " But I say to you, the rest who are in Thyatira, who do not hold this teaching, who have not known the deep things of Satan, as they call them-I place no other burden on you. 25 Nevertheless what you have, hold firmly until I come. " (Revelation 2:24-25 NASB)
Been following you for years... from the very start and I can testify that you have been consistent... I still hear you say the same things you used to say... Thanks for staying the course.
Since 2023 I’ve been on a journey with secular music. What started out as fasting from it for a month turned into a year plus and the benefits are revolutionary for me. I never really listened to anything too ‘crazy’ but when I tried to get back into secular music, songs about love, life etc nothing ‘sinful’ everytime the next day I always felt off. I couldn’t explain until God reminded me of when I stopped drinking sodas for like a year and when I had my first soda it wasn’t as enjoyable, my body had been so used to water it’s like it rejected the soda. And that’s what I believe is happening with my music. Don’t get me wrong it’s the HARDEST thing I have done and doing but I know this sacrifice is worth it. God bless everyone on this journey just keep going
Well I don't know for sure but I assume music is more of a spiritual block also I will say this the same way not all secular music is bad not all secular movies are bad
Music is *much* more influential to shaping culture than movies _(in our country)_ . When we watch movies, none of us think that the actors are actually *LIVING* what we’re watching, so we’re less influenced to live that out. In hip-hop culture, authenticity is esteemed *highly* , so people are assumed to *LIVE* what they talk about. In that sense, it becomes much more influential and shapes the social norms of society and the way that many people think. In that regard, it can be much more dangerous, so it's talked about more.
One word. Hypocrisy. The same people that hate on Christians who listen to secular music are the same people who watch secular shows and movies with cursing, killing, and sexual content. Maybe 1% of Christians truly make an effort to block out all secular content. Also, to say music is more spiritual as a statement of why they take music more seriously than other forms of art; well that may be a stretch cause if you know the history of Hollywood and understand that the CIA is heavily involved, you will know the power that film and TV hold over people’s minds.
This has got to be one of the most redemptive perspectives on music I've ever heard! 😭 Thank you, Jesus, that you're redeeming music and culture for your glory!
The beautiful thing about Christian music is that there are just as many "sounds" to satisfy the soul. You have to be "listening" in order to hear. I have young adult daughter and a young son plus grandchildren so I'm aware of the secular music that's out now, however none of that is on my playlist. I know enough to be aware.
Thank you!! I have made that comment on here too! He can and will help you find a music that fits your style. I’m a living witness…it’s when we SEEK Him first! ☝🏽☝🏽🙏🏽✝️💪🏽
I was highly critical of you Lecrae ( some of it was just) but this podcast has restored a lot of respect of your perspective. I’m thankful you for opening up in this space . Much love!
It’s ALWAYS important no matter how mature you are to watch your ear gates and eye gates. Content (music, movies, etc are full of seeds that get planted and when they take root, they produce fruit. Holy Spirit brings conviction to tell you what’s okay and what’s not. There’s only but so much secular music and content I can take part in without it causing the wrong seeds to come up in my life.
What makes a song a secular song is the lyrics not the instrumental. And what's makes a song a gospel song is the lyrics not the instrumental. Music is music but the lyrics is the message in that music. I am a gospel trapper because I speak about Jesus on the trap beats.
They do a lot of spells on music and movies and the secular artists aren't afraid to let us know who they worship and work for. As an artist I try to find a happy medium because I don't want to be seen as "corny" but I also want to be honest. As a listener I feel what we entertain effects our spirit more than we realize. It all depends on where you are in your walk. I also listen so I know what's going on in that realm so I can stay with the times.
Stop listening to it altogether.the spirit behind ANY secular music is not the Spirit Of God. It does not glorify God it glorifies self and the world...but it is a process so I really pray The Lord Jesus helps you to stop listening to secular music and that' you'd see the dangers of it regardless of how "clean" it seems.
@@SamanthaNkala-e3vthis is lacking lots of nuance and critical thinking. By that logic, listening to classical music must be sinful then. You could also apply this logic to the phone you use. How do you know if your phone was made by a Christian. Do you apply this logic to books as well? Is reading a history book sinful? Do you only read theology books?
@@mramirez5239 It's both... there are Christians always looking to condemn something that they don't understand because it doesn't line up with what "they believe is right". They fail to get context and proper understanding. There are Christians for whom this might not be their speed but they must follow their "own" convictions. None of this is a heaven or hell issue in my opinion. Crae makes music that inspires me to keep fighting the good fight of faith. For example, "Only Human"... is one of my favorite tracks. I just don't understand why Christians want other Christians to stay in a box and not impact the world with our God-given gifts? We were meant to do more than just stay in our Comfortable Christian Circles. At the end of the day... God allowed and guided the Israelites to take over the land and possessions of the wicked nations. Our voice and talents need to be loud just like the world's voice... we should be tired of being locked in a box by other Christians.
@@mramirez5239 he surprisingly gave much more scripture to test for his argument. I’d love to hear the discernment of other believers on this. But some will certainly be Pharisees.
If you’re rapping, it’s pretty hard to not check in on the industry at large. You just gotta be really careful not to let it influence you the wrong ways.
Man!!! This Is Necessary!!! I had to tap in as soon as I seen the reel of this video I love the way you broke this topic down I been in between secular hip hop and Christian hip hop lately and I find myself leaning & listening more nowadays towards christian hip hop more the messages just have more of an impact on my spirit as of lately I feel like my mind is being transformed through Christian Rap Thank you my brother in christ I needed to hear this today all the way from Houston, Texas.
@ashtonrobinson6642 understand that WE live in the West,and we're distracted with these questions INSTEAD OF growing in our walk for Christ. I know why I asked.......the question is DO YOU understand why secular music is a topic when we're to SEPARATED from it? Ever heard of SANCTIFICATION??
Praise God Almighty and our Lord Jesus Christ!! Man bro, this is by far one of your best conversations. Thank you. To answer your question, these days I don't listen to secular music. We have so many options in the faith music it's easier than back in the day. 116 music really helped leave secular hip-hop/rap.
I tried listening explicitly to christian music only simply because it was christian and it was taught. Did that for a few years until I told God this is tiresome. I feel more in bondage as a christian then when I was fully sinning. Only to realise that almost everything Crae just said is spot on. We are free in christ people. Let me end it with this. My mother in law had a crazy ice cream addiction. She ate and ate and ate. We would confront her about it (out of love) and tell her it wasn't healthy but she just continued. Mind you she ate a lot of ice cream every single day. Until one day.. she just quit. I tried to test her a few times and see if she really didn'nt want it and she said: It's not that im not allowed to take it or can't take it.. I simply don't WANT it anymore. God bless y'all!
I'm the same way too, maybe even more so because the genre I listen to is not commonly produced by Christians sadly And even though I try to listen to more Christian music to keep my mind on God, I still will oftentimes find and listen to secular songs to listen to. I've never had a problem with that (so long as the songs aren't actually bad or about evil). However, I have had a problem with idolatry, much like your mother-in-law with ice cream. Too much of a treat can be bad. You just have to be careful is all
We each have our own convictions. Listen I'm bald as ever and I love Jesus. For some Christians that's a no no and for other's who cares, my hair or no hair is not a salvation issue. Now to the subject. If a Christian believes they should only listen to Christian music that's your business,. I guess that means not going to the store, any parties or interactions because someone somewhere will be listening to secular music. If a Christian has no conviction about secular music that's their business, I grew up on Gospel/Christian, old school R&B & Smooth Jazz (Boney James, Najee) as I gotten older, wiser in my walk I have moved away from R&B I prefer Smooth Jazz. Even in that ,I am a strong believer in not listening to anything raunchy, overly sexual or plain nasty. But I don't have conviction about listening to Jazz, and I love Jesus with everything in me. And respectfully when I get married I don't want to hear"Near the Cross" nor any Christian music at the wedding or my wedding night 😂 but if that's what another Christian desires that's their business. I said all this to say less be respectfully of folks convictions and stance on music. If a person just came from the streets only listening to Tupac and they get saved, don't expect them to turn to Hezekiah Walker overnight its a process. Some don't eat meat, look at TV, only wear modest clothes for others they believe this is bondage we all have our own convictions. Let the Holy Spirit do the work, and just live for Jesus Christ.
We don’t function off of convictions, we fully function off of the word of God. When the Bible says something that we’re not convicted of we then go to God with a need for him to make our hearts line up with his word. If you don’t FEEL convicted about something that the word says, that now between you and the Lord to wrestle with that. But this is a great discussion! Thank you for sharing and have a great day sister ❤
The question to answer should not be “have you ever listened to it?” Or even “do you give it a listen?” But rather it should be “are you rocking with it and consuming it daily?”
Yes! I grew up on Michael Jackson, Madonna, Earth Wind & Fire, The Commodores, Sugarhill Gang, etc. Funk was my first love in music. I never heard anything like that in Christian Music until Kirk Franklin’s “Looking For You.”
John 17:14-16 “Christians are not of the world, but they are in the world. Christians should not share in the values and beliefs of the unbelieving world, but instead follow Christ's word.”
John 17:14-16 “Christians are not of the world, but they are in the world. Christians should not share in the values and beliefs of the unbelieving world, but instead follow Christ's word.”
Secular music has been an ongoing struggle and influences me to think /act differently and become more sinful. It influences us! although I still catch myself listening to it sometimes especially when I work out ultimately I choose God🩷thank you for this video
Thank you, Lecrae, for giving your perspective on Christian Rap and secular Rap, the industry and how we as Christ followers must learn to see and know the difference from God's wisdom. It gave me a lot of food for thought. I have loved music of all types since I was a kid in the Seventies, and gave my life to Christ, first at 10 yrs old, then at 14 yrs. I see both sides, both positive and negative of both industries. Was a Recording arts major in College who minored in music and industry has changed in technology, but not in the way of how humans take advantage of other humans with musical gifts. But I digress. I appreciate your take on it.
All of the biggest rappers talk about selling their soul to the devil. Considering the soul is the mind and the emotions, when they stand in the booth and record these songs and we listen to them, is it possible that we are being involved in a different type of "worship". Is there some type of subsconcious effect on our joy and our faith. I mean, i grew up on busta rhymes and nelly, and christian rap has just started to get more creative. Alot of the times i have to train myself to listen to music that uplifts the Lord and remind myself to keep my mind on Him.
I see what he's talking about. We gotta be discerning though when choosing from which secular songs we choose to listen to. Cause like television or movies. Not all are evil but not all are editing as well. Some song movies shows are weights in our lives that we gotta let go from..
This is a great topic. I'm a producer so I feel the same way. I came up on dre,timbo,Kanye, and others because I was drawn to the production and learning that craft. Now I can use that and what I learned for the glory of God and bring a different sound. To God be the glory 🙌🏿🙌🏿
@@BOMBERPALMER simple. From every bad situation, create good. Me myself listen to Kanye of the 200s, Nas of the 90s, kendrick and cole, simply because most of their music is creative and improves me in many ways like inspiration when I'm falling asleep or weak, workout, creativity, not giving up. I know they are many musics not too listen to. For example: under the influence by Chris brown, and many 21 savage songs, becsuse he keeps on shouting pu*sy. Evil music is a whole different level and I think that's what Lil uzi vert, nas x sings. Like obviously, you can judge from their lifestyle. Lil uzi vert spent 350k dolls on an upside down chain. Just imagine that. GOD has been so good to me in making me distasteful of any song so polluting.
Listennnnn. I really respect Lecrae and the artists that worked hard to change the game. I love that you offer a whole different messge to someone who's looking for "rap music". But up until about 45:19, this sounded like a master class for rap artists. Because you were a pioneer Lecrae, there were a lot of different avenues that you had to travel. But by no means would I encourage my 15-year-old son to listen to secular music. Because the truth of the matter is anyone that is wanting to persue rap and but not necessarily fall into the industry trap, You yourself have made that available to others. You and many many other artists have changed the narrative of how "christian music" sounds. Yes if someone wanted to become a great filmmaker they could reach out to Spielberg, but they also can reach out to the Kendrick Brothers. The point is that many people have yeilded themselves to CHRIST and vow to be a light not just a lampshade. And a wholeheartedly agree with what you said about people going into the "hood" and offering alternatives, showing up for everyone and providing a way out
No, it's not bad to listen to secular music. It's the type of secular music you listen to. Not all secular music is bad. There are some really good songs/artist out there but if listening to secular music is a stumbling block then it's easier to not listen to it at all. The Bible tells us to guard our hearts (Prov 4:23). It also tells us our mith speaks what our heart is full of ( Luke 6:45) If it cause you to stumbling then don't listen. We all have to remember everyone's walk l with Christ is not going to be the same.
@antinitatyson the Holy Spirit gives us different convictions and they will never go against the word of God. If you have sang any to any disney movies, or happy birthday, electric slide, Thriller, etc. Those are secular songs as well. Kids listen to coco melon, gracies's corner,...shew we can say the ABC song is secular as well. There are a lot of artists that sing uplifting or just fun songs. What you have to be mindful of is the message, the cursing etc in music but not in music also in movies. And I agree it doesn't mean we do not love a person any less or love them any less.
My late Pastor "Roberto Torres" who was a Producer and Rapper had this same discussion with us as artists during the time you started Reach Records. His vision with working with secular artist, doing production with them, and sharing his faith in Jesus with them was a call he felt God had given him. Our views on this very topic was divided, and what once was, didn't manifest. You breaking this down today made me think of him, and the vision he had. Everyone isn't called to do what you do as you know, but I sincerely believe God has poured out His favor in your life because of the heart you have towards all people. Jesus saw the crowd, and was moved with compassion. I learned a lot today, and thank you for addressing this topic and being led through prayer to do so!
I say no ! I I use to but one Wednesday night at a worship night /Bible study the Holy Spirit convicted me to get rid of my secular music. It was hard because I loved reaggeton , sala etc but I did it. I felt so much better spiritually. Now if I’m in a grocery store and hear a dirty secular song I feel uncomfortable. It’s so worth it. What you listen to , watch , who you are around you become.
Let me say something to that…. Our music, Latin music, is overly sexual and sensual. It is dirty. We need to be real. There is a lot of music like this that has a negative culture. There are other genres that don’t. Explore something new. Cheers.
This Episode made me realize that how much effort you where putting for this industry for decades. Definitely sure that the secular music industry tried their best to stop you but the gates of hell shall not prevail!! @lecrae all I can say to you is thanks for making a revolution... don't stop keep Going much Love from the heart of the Motherland
I think we as Christians should never be torn and compromise on this issues however I do understand the complexities of being a Christian rapper as its your job and craft.....as a christian who isn't a rapper though you should definitely just listen to christ centered gospel music
Dropping gem after gem in this one 💎 I was reminded of the song “No Grease” by Swoope where he says “My alma mater was taught by Marshall Mathers And Sean Professor Carter and Kanye West for starters And Tribe Called Quest, and Common, and Nas, André 3000 Three stacks for short Lupe Fiasco talked all about food and liquor I took what I learned from the words and I filtered it through the Scriptures”
Yes I listen to secular music. I sing secular music too. I am saved and sanctified, washed in the blood of the Lamb. I sing "Happy birthday" once or twice a month. "Merry Christmas" and most of the theme songs to my favorite TV show 😁. But, for real, I was taught that it was wrong to sing and listen to secular music as a child. I learned as an adult that if I could read a poem, I could listen to a song. I agree with you Lecrae, it's what you let into your heart and soul that condemns you. Now, I don't listen to hard core stuff because that stuff disturbs my Spirit. But I do like songs with little too no swear words or too much sexual content. I like things PG-16. 😇
I stopped listening to music years ago because I can't disipher what's good and what's not good. Some songs have double entendre, so its too difficult to figure out what the artist means. Jay-Z calls himself J hova, which is blasphemy. Ye call himself Jesus, that's blasphemy. Just a few examples of why I don't listen to secular music. The next secular artist you listen to do some research on that person and see if they believe in the same God you believe in. Remember that we wrestle not against flesh and blood.
I really liked the video, and how you explained a lot of things which we don’t know because we grown up differently, but thank you for what you’re doing, may God bless you🫶🏻
You can’t compare intentionally turning on lil baby and listening to him to being a bystander who happen to overhear a conversation in a store. That’s not the same 18:00
Seriously one of the if not the best conversations I’ve ever heard regarding music, personal convictions, culture, and art. Haven’t followed crae as well in recent years, but the fact he’s built bridges in the rap game is incredible. I know there’s been a lot of digital pharisees put him on blast for it too. The fact that he’s been able to use the platform and his connections to sew the seeds is doing the real work.
You all are so holy and high that even a pop song from the movie “Trolls” disturbs your spirit? WOW. It’s going to be difficult for your testimony to save anyone as you ostracize the simple people that need the Lord most. You can’t sit down at the table with sinners anymore. Think about that.. there is something wrong there. If a pop song disturbs your gospel, you make the gospel look so weak and porous. You can dance 💃 and you won’t go to hell guys. All that will happen is you will smile and have fun. Be better. Live in the real world instead of making it what Jesus never intended. You can’t be more holy than Jesus.
Most of the music glorifies the flesh and the things God says that those who practice will not inherit the kingdom. Making money glorifying it as an alternative to selling drugs or crime does not excuse it. Is God gonna say... well, at least you didn't sell drugs...come on in. If the record labels doesnt want to change, then he needs to let it go. You can't serve God and mammon. God’s Gospel is universal, and if we quit trying to help Him out, we will be better off. There is NO JUSTIFICATION FOR SIN.
Ladies and gentlemen!!! God’s people is on the Move.We are rising up.Don’t believe Me? 2025 I will show better than I can Tell You!!!There will a big shift in the music industry 2025.
21 clip at 0:16 is a CLEAR operation of the spirit of doubt, a sin! Psalm 50:15 God made promises to us and wont go back on the word! Believing in Jesus and not obeying his word is exactly what satan does himself. No one can serve two masters - Matthew 6:24 Cut off secular music (satan) or Cut Off God ? Romans 2:12 explains that people are held accountable to God's Word to whatever extent they understand it. “All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law.” In other words, the more you know, the greater your level of accountability so now that you know this will you continue to do as you wish or Gods will. Do not twist the word for your fleshly desires if its hard to turn away from it then its the work of the enemy (flesh desire)
Most of us came from the hood. I understand why they make the music, just like how I used to listen to that type of music .. I wasn't saved, and I grew up on that. We can emphasize with them cause we were once in their shoes, but I'm still not gone listen or want my children to listen to it because the music is toxic and demonic. Let's call a spade a spade. the majority of secular music is demonic. I'm not calling them a demon, but the music is definitely demonic their not hiding it. Music , movies, etc. we definitely, as believers, need to watch what we listen to and watch and allow in our spirit. Use wisdom. You either feed the flesh or the spirit.
Amazing perspective - one thing I’d say as a fellow artist/songwriter and Christian still trying to figure this out for myself (obviously not one on Lecrae’s level but my bedroom counts!) is that there’s a very different relationship w/ secular music for someone a Christian that creates it vs one who just consumes it. Musicians have a genuine reason to study Lil Baby’s cadence in order to keep up with (and hopefully improve upon) the progress made within the music space in their own music so that God can use it to reach others through it’s quality. I listen to secular music on occasion now solely to keep up with new innovative sonic ideas in the industry, but I do take deep issue with the lyrics through the Spirit and can’t enjoy what they’re saying/let myself get enveloped in it the way I once did. Paul did this same thing by becoming familiar with greek “secular” poets. However, someone who doesn’t make music or art themselves as a Christian - there may be a real problem with simply listening to the music and letting it envelop you the way it intends to. Music can be a deeply life-altering, spiritually charged, all-encompassing and immersive experience that, if accompanied by evil ideas, can really seep into a Christian’s spirit and - in my opinion - should invoke a level of conviction. There’s levels to it.
I listen to “secular” music. I listen to a lot of musicals, like Hamilton and I’m not sure if that is “secular” but I don’t listen to it nearly as much as I used to. 90% of what I listen to is worship music. Helps my anxiety.
That’s secular but not evil, there’s a big difference, for example I love jazz, and also an artist I like is Michael Jackson, both Michael and the genre of jazz is secular, but not evil, so not all secular music is evil, we should avoid evil music
Not trynna self promote too hard here. But if you like hearing secular artists but don’t wanna hear their messages, see what I got going on at my channel. Might be able to get your fix that way.
Thank you @lecrae for embracing NUANCE! This topic of conversation for YEARS has always been heavily driven by binary thinking! Some ONLY see black and white and we never talk about the GREY area that we ALL live in. I hate that we are still having this conversation; but I get it! 🤷🏾♂️
Great episode of the deep end Lecrae very relatable &TRUE!🔥🔥💯I don’t listen to secular music anymore but when I do it’s only songs that God may put on my path potentially for me to grow and pray for people who are stuck in that secular music realm &the artists. But all in all no I don’t normally listen to secular music anymore but I was raised with it all and it had a huge strong hold on me in my life for as long as I can remember until only 3 years ago I gave up that music and only listen to Christian music and I am also an artist Christian rapper I use to rap for the devil now I use my gift for Jesus too honour him and others. Blessings 🙏🏼❤️
Beautiful way of answering that question Mr Lecrae , I know a lot of people won't agree with what you said because it is a very sensitive topic but i totally agree
Now he says he’s a Christian rapper lol. And this isn’t hate Crae. Bear with me and read the below We would like you to circle back to this topic. I agree with Datin early on when he said you seemed to duck the title like you were ashamed of your brethren and faith I’m a street guy. Got saved at 15 but left the Lord at 16 running the streets from 16-20. Hung with the vice lord’s, black stone moes, black mafia, c fluids, etc. Sold weed, chased women, listened to 36, Project Pat, MJG & 8 ball. I repented and came back to the faith at 20. My wife introduced me to Cross Movement, Da Truth, and Flame. And CHH helped me come back to the faith so strong I’m grateful 20 years later. That’s why I fight for the C in HH and have had some stronger rebukes for you Crae. Look how much the music influenced me and even your early stuff. I felt the anointing in the earlier CHH stuff. Was heavy into This’l, R Swift, J Johnson (aka Silas), J’son, Timothy Brindle, Everyday Process, and many many more CHH artists and groups. I’ve been able to also give others struggling with listening to secular music, godly content to turn to I personally believe many of y’all forgot about your brethren and were trying to make a name in the secular arenas. And I understand and get that to a point. But it rubbed me the wrong way because I felt there was a compromise by some of y’all to befriend the world to get into their circles. I recall Joseph, Daniel, and the three Hebrew boys and saw how they moved. They didn’t compromise their faith or character to win the world. They actually were promoted for their walk with TMH. Also, the early church of Acts, they influenced the culture, not the other way around. Remember they even said “those who turn the world upside down are now here”. A lot of the brethren even paid the ultimate price with their lives. So that’s why I had an issue with some of the rappers who say they’re Christian at the end instead of being a Christian up front. Y’all music is “Reaching” more people than you know and up front you didn’t have to compromise the faith. Remember y’all music is keeping some in the faith as well. Yes we are to go and witness to the world but we also got many backsliding and leaving the faith and if your moves contributed to that, I wouldn’t want to be in that convo with The Most High because you’ve lead someone astray by some of the co-signs with the worldly artists. I left 36 alone for a reason, because their music was evil. And I see God is working on Project because he’s starting to get bold with his faith. I pray Juice repents and turns back to Christ too. Their dad is a pastor If you can’t bump the music windows down at a stop light or in front of kids, family, etc., then you know something ain’t right
Amen brother, I too was highly impacted by artists such as Lecrae growing up, and not any of his stuff from about 2016 onwards. His old stuff was Jesus or nothing, which should be how we as Christians view things. Sure, I could go listen to secular music that doesn’t necessarily have sinful content, but why? Christians should be asking why they so badly want to cling to things of this world when they have been called to no longer belong to it. Further I am commenting so I don’t want to lose my spot here but Paul notes this when he’s speaking of having the ability and freedom to do all things but not all things are beneficial. Overall, it’s literally Christian hip hop because it’s NOT secular hip hop and we shouldn’t be ashamed of the title because it literally contains Christ’s name in it. What shall it profit a man to gain the whole world but lose his own soul, is anything worth more than your soul? - Jesus Christ God bless you brother, may you remain in Jesus as He remains in you, Amen.
@@EnriqueAmen amen my brother! Now to think of me still in the faith 20 years later. God used CHH to keep me on this side. The music I listened to was a struggle of mine. I was influenced early listening to music as a kid. And especially as a black man, the hood, music, etc were father figures to us when our dads weren’t around. We want to be what we heard and seen and unfortunately I see how the devil has used hip hop to program narratives about the black community. I wish my color brothers would wake up and see these lies as well. Just look at our culture’s music and hear the lyrics. No other genre talks about the sins ours does. It glorifies sex, drugs, violence, gangs, etc. This is why I defend CHH because I see what satan is doing. Like Paul said concerning the Jews, he wished they would lay their culture down to come to Christ. I wish my people would lay our skin color down and come to the truth of his Word
I sent this video to a couple respected men of God in my life and asked for their input: 1) I agree about the rap genre. The music is a tool. How it is used matters. Rock music was secular before any Christian Rock existed and I absolutely love some of the Christian rock, music. However, as I've matured more with being married, I rarely listen to it. My heart is now laser focused on uplifting biblical messages, and praise and worship. 2) Yes, all music genres can be redeemed, but also agree with Lecrae, can also be a stumbling block. 3) is secular music OK for most all of us to listen to. No!! The negative messages and meditation of the heart is mostly worldly , demonic, evil. Lecrae says that he can appreciate the music without the message, but would I recommend that the majority of believers allow negative messages near our hearts and mind? No! This is why we don't personally have cable TV and immediately turn off and skip certain ads on the Internet. 4) I have heard a preacher once say something like "you're better off watching hard-core porn, than letting the sewage of this world( TV programs, sitcoms, MSM) go through your brain day after day" I absolutely agree. I would never try to start a "porn watchers rights advocacy group" like some of the people of the world. I know it's evil and that's why I have forsaken it. I never said to my friends or customers while I was caught up in that addiction " gee, you should've seen the porn flick I seen last night! this episode was so cool!" But try to get some of the non-spirit filled Christians to agree that they should not be watching the same crap as the world on TV and you will face extreme resistance. To advocate that it's OK to listen to secular music just adds to their debauchery. 4) As a professional with the sincere desire to capture the best music and feelings is his God-given gift! yes , Lecrae could benefit from listening, and I'm sure that most skilled Christian music artists do go through a bunch of secular music for the melodies and the heart. But it is very dangerous. I definitely would never recommend that for 80% of the body of Christ. 5) There are endless admonitions in the scriptures about separating the holy from the profane! 6) We don't have Netflix. We don't have any secular TV. We are even very careful about what we watch on UA-cam and Facebook and Instagram. We not only need to be very careful about what we let in, but also what COMES OUT of our mouth. If I'm singing the same things as the godless, worldly culture… I'm confessing wickedness, unbelief, and perversion; depression, doom and destruction. 7) I love good music and am probably one of the greatest critics of most Christian music, not having the guts to step out into great powerful melodies and hard driven, gut wrenching messages. My wife works for a Christian radio station and I wish things could be different! (To their credit They have provided alternatives to their "airwaves" stations on the Internet, which is awesome! they have one for rock and one for rap/ hip hop and one for Hispanic music). But those kind of things don't sell because the entire Christian market is mostly dominated financially by soccer moms and the type of religious people that Lecrae is speaking against who don't want their kids, listening to "that kind of music" I agree ...it is prejudice. Still, I would rather listen to bad Christian melodies which speak God's biblical truth than good secular music. 8) If you're going to target the lost like Lecrae is doing with having his music accepted in both genres, you better make sure you're very mature and very anchored. One of the old and wiser elders of a church we used to attend said “clean don't rub off on dirt"
This is not about whether christians should or should not do something. This is about being a Christian filled with the Holy Spirit do you desire to listen to secular music and if you test the spirit of said music by the spirit of God I am sure he will lead you and guide you into all truth. This could apply to many things in the world. 1 John 4:5-6,
Do you listen to secular music? 🤔
Kinda
Personally as a Christian rapper, I actually ONLY listen to Christian rap, guys like you, andy, NF, indie tribe.
I do.
Yes, but I choose what I listen to
Yup always did and always will all kind of music not just rap ..love my 90's pop lol
We playing a dangerous game here, there is a difference between secular music and 'evil music' like smooth jazz is secular, sexyred pound town IS evil, inciting and glorifying sin is evil, let's be real.....
I agree
Well said 👏🏾💯
True
Jazz is secular? I didn't know
That's not 'evil'. It's just bad.
this conversation is always funny because it's only ever about music and never about movies, tv, books, and whatever other form of entertainment
I think he’s taking about something he can relate to. He isn’t an actor, writer or publisher but I see what you’re saying. True followers of Christ know that they should guard the avenues of the soul: the five senses what we hear, see, taste, touch, taste, etc.
realest shit ever and it's always about hiphop
@@talonfusco9564God bless you bro, I just wanna say to you that we shouldn't say bad words. Not judging on a bad way, just an advise.
@@yagdielsv I don't think it's that deep
@@talonfusco9564 it is brother, even the people in the world sees them as an insult. I reccomend you to investigate this topic.
I can't believe I'm at a stage where I cannot stomach secular music, I've never been a TV person so that's never been difficult. But music was hard but God has been faithful
@@LethaboLovesOra Same. When I rededicated my life, music was my stronghold, and rap music particularly. But like Lecrae said, back in the 80’s early 90’s, there weren’t any gospel rappers other than Toby Mac, and that didn’t grab my attention. Then there were the Gospel Gangsters and T-Bone, and there were the closest I could get to hardcore gospel, without the cursing, but still not really interested….. Then I thought, what if I continued listening to these artists, and then all of a sudden, my favorite ones got saved, then what? So my prayer became, Lord, deliver me from the music, and lead me to music that is uplifting, beneficial and can feed my spirit. And he took my desire away over time. I was lead to Lecrae and Reach Records, and everyone under that umbrella in 2012, and I haven like back since. I can’t STAND to hear today’s music, rap or r&b! God and CHH changed my life…..
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@@ayannas4326 same here, Hip Hop, Kanye West in particular
Amen. Same here.
At the end of the day, it’s really all about discernment, because not all secular music is bad, everyone’s wired differently and everyone’s walk don’t have to be the same, it really comes down to what artists you listen to, how their songs make you feel and your reason for why you listen to them, nobody should be judging each other for what they listen to if it ain’t hurting anybody or themselves but at the same time, we definitely should be mindful of WHAT and WHO we listen to
@@othasida2639 a balanced view imho
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Well I’d argue that some music is harmful. And we know that music can influence a culture. So music promoting not only sin by Christian’s standards, but music that promotes violence and sexual exploitation, yeah I think that’s harmful for all of us.
I always maintained the mindset that as long as it doesn’t drive you to sin or tempt you to do certain things, you can listen to whatever music you like. Obviously some people receive and react to stuff differently. I do have boundaries myself as I’m not out here listening to artists like Sexxy Red
Watching this after the Kendrick Lamar Drop
literally same
yup
Here
Hi :)
Secular music was a STRONGHOLD until I came to the conclusion that it's either God or Satan ; Heaven or hell...I chose Christ! You can't go through life with one foot in Christ and the other in the world.
Amen to that! ❤
You can't serve two masters. Choose THIS DAY whom you will serve
@omarsornoza Agreed wholeheartedly. I had to choose. I couldn't be lukewarm any longer. I do understand that all secular music is not bad. However, I often have to consider, what is the source of this musical composition? And lastly, I know the Holy Spirit will SPEAK directly, when we ask him to reveal truth to us. I think part of the thing people struggle with, is that they know, once they ask for the truth to be revealed, they have to make a choice. Some don't want to know the truth. My prayer is that the Lord reveals the truth to all who desire to see and hear it, as well convict those who aren't ready yet.
Elaborate please.
Same! ❤
𝗣𝗿𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗿𝗯𝘀 𝟰:𝟮𝟯-𝟮𝟳
23 Above all else, guard your heart,
for everything you do flows from it.
24 Keep your mouth free of perversity;
keep corrupt talk far from your lips.
25 Let your eyes look straight ahead;
fix your gaze directly before you.
26 Give careful thought to the[a] paths for your feet
and be steadfast in all your ways.
27 Do not turn to the right or the left;
keep your foot from evil.
Word !❤
Amen!
Plot twist: not all Christian music is biblically sound or theologically accurate. Do we keep listening to it anyway?
The Bible never said Secular vs Christian, but Good vs Evil. Discernment is knowing the difference.
PRECISELY
period‼️
We just had Priscilla Shirer on here and she said something so profound that will forever be etched in my head. “For many Christians the question is how close can I get to sin without crossing the line, but for the disciple it’s how close can I get to Jesus”. Something may not be inherently sin but is it elevating me? There are some that are called to the dark places and of course we need to know how to strategize and operate to get other folks into the kingdom without compromising ourselves. Not to mention we do have proof that A LOT of mainstream IS EVIL. So why not just save yourself the trouble of things sticking to you and just not listen. Overall this was a good listen and it’s ok to agree to disagree. I believe that as we grow with God, He will convict us of things and we will want to get rid of it.
Love what you’ve said here!
Im focused on creating music for Jesus
That's what we have to do bro, be so good that the world cant ignore us. May the holyspirit give us grace to make music spirit filled and excellent
Is that what He wants for your life?
Keep your focus on GOD don’t turn away when that clout comes rolling in
Me too
For me most secular music has lyrics that doesn’t need to enter my ears as a person who trying my best to strve for holiness. And two this music triggers me because when I was living in sin secular music had an effect on me in different ways
AMEN
Exactly what he talking bout, see Now you explaining where you coming from. I Love It.🙏🏾❤️✊🏾🤙🏾
I agree
I completely agree. I fell short many times because I listened to it and the spirits attached to those songs influenced me to do unholy things. I gotta get back on track cuz Christ is coming back soon.
It’s not your meat , don’t eat it , like he said ….
I think that as Believers, we need to be careful trying to make a case for our sin. Then we become a stumbling block for others. Especially with the kind of influence God has blessed Lecrae with. Secular music has a disastrous influence over American culture. Drugs, killing, hyper sexual behavior, desensitization, imaginative living, & outright witchcraft is being preached through the dark secular music platform. It is not of God. The Bible teaches us to abstain from the appearance of evil Thessalonians 5:22. James 4:4 teaches that to be friends with the world is to be Gods enemy.
We all struggle with something but don’t call sin good or okay just because you struggle with it.
We must call a sin a sin even if we struggle with that sin. This was a long commentary on why those that struggle to let go of secularism should feel good about it.
I love this brother and appreciate all he has done to create space for hip hop artists who want to serve God with their talents but please remember, God is the Creator of all things. The devil is emulating & perverting. Stop preaching the other way around.
Agreed, did you listen to the entire message. I think he says as much by the end.
@antinitatyson Amen!
It's not biblical to only listen to, interact with and observe Christian only substances.
James 1:1-27@@xanjuro9697emphasis on vs 27b
It’s not that , but not all secular music is evil ! Miss Mary Mack is secular but is that evil ? A lot of Christian’s become so heavenly minded and can’t impact the environment around them .
"Jesus did not hang out with sinners, sinners hung out with Jesus" That's a really helpful way to conceptualize, thank you for sharing.
I also appreciate the discussion around meat sacrificed to idols and how Paul talks about when you might choose for or against eating meat. I have been reading Revelation lately, and particularly the letters to the 7 churches. This topic seems to fit in will especially with what Jesus says to the church in Thyatira. He has a big problem with those who promote sexual immorality and food sacrificed to idols, but goes on to say " But I say to you, the rest who are in Thyatira, who do not hold this teaching, who have not known the deep things of Satan, as they call them-I place no other burden on you. 25 Nevertheless what you have, hold firmly until I come. " (Revelation 2:24-25 NASB)
Been following you for years... from the very start and I can testify that you have been consistent... I still hear you say the same things you used to say... Thanks for staying the course.
When Reach made MAN UP... it was exactly what I needed and I am the man I am today coz of that project...
That's not a good thing
@@GeneralJLC it's called consistency... and I'm sure it's not a bad thing either.
Since 2023 I’ve been on a journey with secular music. What started out as fasting from it for a month turned into a year plus and the benefits are revolutionary for me. I never really listened to anything too ‘crazy’ but when I tried to get back into secular music, songs about love, life etc nothing ‘sinful’ everytime the next day I always felt off. I couldn’t explain until God reminded me of when I stopped drinking sodas for like a year and when I had my first soda it wasn’t as enjoyable, my body had been so used to water it’s like it rejected the soda. And that’s what I believe is happening with my music. Don’t get me wrong it’s the HARDEST thing I have done and doing but I know this sacrifice is worth it. God bless everyone on this journey just keep going
We speak against secular music but we don't do same for secular movies,why????
Well I don't know for sure but I assume music is more of a spiritual block also I will say this the same way not all secular music is bad not all secular movies are bad
Some of us do. Let God into all parts of your life and see which "rooms in your house He flicks the lights on" so you can see new areas to clean up.
Who’s “we”? My mom been telling me to watch what I’m putting in my spirit 😭
Music is *much* more influential to shaping culture than movies _(in our country)_ . When we watch movies, none of us think that the actors are actually *LIVING* what we’re watching, so we’re less influenced to live that out.
In hip-hop culture, authenticity is esteemed *highly* , so people are assumed to *LIVE* what they talk about. In that sense, it becomes much more influential and shapes the social norms of society and the way that many people think. In that regard, it can be much more dangerous, so it's talked about more.
One word. Hypocrisy. The same people that hate on Christians who listen to secular music are the same people who watch secular shows and movies with cursing, killing, and sexual content. Maybe 1% of Christians truly make an effort to block out all secular content. Also, to say music is more spiritual as a statement of why they take music more seriously than other forms of art; well that may be a stretch cause if you know the history of Hollywood and understand that the CIA is heavily involved, you will know the power that film and TV hold over people’s minds.
This has got to be one of the most redemptive perspectives on music I've ever heard! 😭 Thank you, Jesus, that you're redeeming music and culture for your glory!
Praise him. Don’t let other “Christian’s” say anything that gets to you.
If God can redeem Peter and Paul, then Kendrick and Aaliyah can be redeemed 🎉
Honestly crae is a wordsmith 🫡
Kendrick Lamar's Watch The Party Die brought me here ❤
why? what made you feel?
Same 💪🙏
It is the lyrics that matter most. The meaning behind the message.
I understand exactly what he is saying. It takes wisdom from God to know how to navigate this space.
This is wild. I'm cleaning my Spotify playlist right now. lol 💗
I did that 4 months ago. :D
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The beautiful thing about Christian music is that there are just as many "sounds" to satisfy the soul. You have to be "listening" in order to hear. I have young adult daughter and a young son plus grandchildren so I'm aware of the secular music that's out now, however none of that is on my playlist. I know enough to be aware.
Thank you!! I have made that comment on here too! He can and will help you find a music that fits your style. I’m a living witness…it’s when we SEEK Him first! ☝🏽☝🏽🙏🏽✝️💪🏽
Praying that your kids and grands have an awakening in their music.
This is a very good conversation. I’ve had this topic come up several times in my conversations with people.
It's a waste of time ⏲️
We are SPOILED in the West to even HAVE these type of conversations. Doesn't benefit the body of Christ one bit.
@@frederickweeksjr.1189nonsense
I was highly critical of you Lecrae ( some of it was just) but this podcast has restored a lot of respect of your perspective. I’m thankful you for opening up in this space . Much love!
Same.
You sound dumb “some of it was just” talking like you know him
Heavy on this.
Was it?
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It’s ALWAYS important no matter how mature you are to watch your ear gates and eye gates. Content (music, movies, etc are full of seeds that get planted and when they take root, they produce fruit. Holy Spirit brings conviction to tell you what’s okay and what’s not. There’s only but so much secular music and content I can take part in without it causing the wrong seeds to come up in my life.
Thanks, Lecrae, for talking about this subject.
What would Lecrae do?
Its what would Jesus do. That sounds so bad. He aint Jesus. Take him off your pedastool. Don’t idolize anyone
Bro he was joking calm down 😂
What makes a song a secular song is the lyrics not the instrumental.
And what's makes a song a gospel song is the lyrics not the instrumental.
Music is music but the lyrics is the message in that music.
I am a gospel trapper because I speak about Jesus on the trap beats.
Can someone tell Lecrae that Kendrick shouted him out
He knows now, he did a song about it yesterday.
They do a lot of spells on music and movies and the secular artists aren't afraid to let us know who they worship and work for. As an artist I try to find a happy medium because I don't want to be seen as "corny" but I also want to be honest. As a listener I feel what we entertain effects our spirit more than we realize. It all depends on where you are in your walk. I also listen so I know what's going on in that realm so I can stay with the times.
What spells?
I listen to secular music but I don’t listen to explicit, violent or sexually exploitative music for any reason, as I am too porous in nature.
Stop listening to it altogether.the spirit behind ANY secular music is not the Spirit Of God. It does not glorify God it glorifies self and the world...but it is a process so I really pray The Lord Jesus helps you to stop listening to secular music and that' you'd see the dangers of it regardless of how "clean" it seems.
@@SamanthaNkala-e3v You're saying songs like "Mr. Blue Sky" is problematic?
@@SamanthaNkala-e3vthis is lacking lots of nuance and critical thinking. By that logic, listening to classical music must be sinful then. You could also apply this logic to the phone you use. How do you know if your phone was made by a Christian. Do you apply this logic to books as well? Is reading a history book sinful? Do you only read theology books?
@@TheEliteSharingan Allow God to show him whats good and whats bad for him.
@@TheEliteSharingangood point
Lotta wisdom here. I hope people listen to the end.
Your videos are edited and produced so well Lecrae. We'll done!
Your podcast is also 2nd to none.
ohhhhh mannnn all the Pharisees waiting for this one!!!!
Yes they are! 😂
Is it pharisees or is it discernment and testing all things, Bro?
@@mramirez5239 It's both... there are Christians always looking to condemn something that they don't understand because it doesn't line up with what "they believe is right". They fail to get context and proper understanding. There are Christians for whom this might not be their speed but they must follow their "own" convictions.
None of this is a heaven or hell issue in my opinion. Crae makes music that inspires me to keep fighting the good fight of faith. For example, "Only Human"... is one of my favorite tracks. I just don't understand why Christians want other Christians to stay in a box and not impact the world with our God-given gifts? We were meant to do more than just stay in our Comfortable Christian Circles.
At the end of the day... God allowed and guided the Israelites to take over the land and possessions of the wicked nations. Our voice and talents need to be loud just like the world's voice... we should be tired of being locked in a box by other Christians.
@@mramirez5239 he surprisingly gave much more scripture to test for his argument. I’d love to hear the discernment of other believers on this. But some will certainly be Pharisees.
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If you’re rapping, it’s pretty hard to not check in on the industry at large. You just gotta be really careful not to let it influence you the wrong ways.
As usual, this was deep, and I needed to hear it to temper my judgement of others, and myself. God bless,
Man!!! This Is Necessary!!! I had to tap in as soon as I seen the reel of this video I love the way you broke this topic down I been in between secular hip hop and Christian hip hop lately and I find myself leaning & listening more nowadays towards christian hip hop more the messages just have more of an impact on my spirit as of lately I feel like my mind is being transformed through Christian Rap Thank you my brother in christ I needed to hear this today all the way from Houston, Texas.
This is going to be good.
Why?
@@frederickweeksjr.1189because it's not talked about enough.
@ashtonrobinson6642 understand that WE live in the West,and we're distracted with these questions INSTEAD OF growing in our walk for Christ. I know why I asked.......the question is DO YOU understand why secular music is a topic when we're to SEPARATED from it? Ever heard of SANCTIFICATION??
Praise God Almighty and our Lord Jesus Christ!! Man bro, this is by far one of your best conversations. Thank you. To answer your question, these days I don't listen to secular music. We have so many options in the faith music it's easier than back in the day. 116 music really helped leave secular hip-hop/rap.
The best 50 minutes spent today. This really blessed me in a tremendous way. Thank you for sharing Crae
I tried listening explicitly to christian music only simply because it was christian and it was taught.
Did that for a few years until I told God this is tiresome. I feel more in bondage as a christian then when I was fully sinning.
Only to realise that almost everything Crae just said is spot on. We are free in christ people. Let me end it with this.
My mother in law had a crazy ice cream addiction. She ate and ate and ate. We would confront her about it (out of love) and tell her it wasn't healthy but she just continued. Mind you she ate a lot of ice cream every single day. Until one day.. she just quit.
I tried to test her a few times and see if she really didn'nt want it and she said: It's not that im not allowed to take it or can't take it.. I simply don't WANT it anymore. God bless y'all!
God will find GREAT Christian music to fit your style. Seriously, He did it for me!!
@@melliemel32 There's not a lot of christian music you can show me that I don't know already. But I appreciate the gesture 🙏🏽
I'm the same way too, maybe even more so because the genre I listen to is not commonly produced by Christians sadly
And even though I try to listen to more Christian music to keep my mind on God, I still will oftentimes find and listen to secular songs to listen to.
I've never had a problem with that (so long as the songs aren't actually bad or about evil). However, I have had a problem with idolatry, much like your mother-in-law with ice cream. Too much of a treat can be bad. You just have to be careful is all
Crae. You did that thing Bro. You captured that feeling. Always grateful for your gift bromigoo
We each have our own convictions. Listen I'm bald as ever and I love Jesus. For some Christians that's a no no and for other's who cares, my hair or no hair is not a salvation issue. Now to the subject. If a Christian believes they should only listen to Christian music that's your business,. I guess that means not going to the store, any parties or interactions because someone somewhere will be listening to secular music. If a Christian has no conviction about secular music that's their business, I grew up on Gospel/Christian, old school R&B & Smooth Jazz (Boney James, Najee) as I gotten older, wiser in my walk I have moved away from R&B I prefer Smooth Jazz. Even in that ,I am a strong believer in not listening to anything raunchy, overly sexual or plain nasty. But I don't have conviction about listening to Jazz, and I love Jesus with everything in me. And respectfully when I get married I don't want to hear"Near the Cross" nor any Christian music at the wedding or my wedding night 😂 but if that's what another Christian desires that's their business. I said all this to say less be respectfully of folks convictions and stance on music. If a person just came from the streets only listening to Tupac and they get saved, don't expect them to turn to Hezekiah Walker overnight its a process. Some don't eat meat, look at TV, only wear modest clothes for others they believe this is bondage we all have our own convictions. Let the Holy Spirit do the work, and just live for Jesus Christ.
We don’t function off of convictions, we fully function off of the word of God. When the Bible says something that we’re not convicted of we then go to God with a need for him to make our hearts line up with his word. If you don’t FEEL convicted about something that the word says, that now between you and the Lord to wrestle with that. But this is a great discussion! Thank you for sharing and have a great day sister ❤
The question to answer should not be “have you ever listened to it?” Or even “do you give it a listen?” But rather it should be “are you rocking with it and consuming it daily?”
Yes! I grew up on Michael Jackson, Madonna, Earth Wind & Fire, The Commodores, Sugarhill Gang, etc. Funk was my first love in music. I never heard anything like that in Christian Music until Kirk Franklin’s “Looking For You.”
I use to listen to secular music but not no more it’s not it anymore
This was beautiful. God bless you very much Lecrae❤
Subscribing to this channel wasn't a coincidence, God wanted me to see this episode. Now I have a clear understanding. God is always great
John 17:14-16
“Christians are not of the world, but they are in the world. Christians should not share in the values and beliefs of the unbelieving world, but instead follow Christ's word.”
WHAT AN HONEST CONVERSATION
This video was so good I had to share with my christian friends.
John 17:14-16
“Christians are not of the world, but they are in the world. Christians should not share in the values and beliefs of the unbelieving world, but instead follow Christ's word.”
I appreciate this video a lot. There were a lot of biblical points that resignate, which was encouraging. Thank you for sharing.
Secular music has been an ongoing struggle and influences me to think /act differently and become more sinful. It influences us! although I still catch myself listening to it sometimes especially when I work out ultimately I choose God🩷thank you for this video
This is such a healthy and cohesive commentary thank you for this ❤👏
I hope Lecrae is praying for Kendrick.. my guy about to crash out!!!
Thank you, Lecrae, for giving your perspective on Christian Rap and secular Rap, the industry and how we as Christ followers must learn to see and know the difference from God's wisdom. It gave me a lot of food for thought. I have loved music of all types since I was a kid in the Seventies, and gave my life to Christ, first at 10 yrs old, then at 14 yrs. I see both sides, both positive and negative of both industries. Was a Recording arts major in College who minored in music and industry has changed in technology, but not in the way of how humans take advantage of other humans with musical gifts. But I digress. I appreciate your take on it.
All of the biggest rappers talk about selling their soul to the devil. Considering the soul is the mind and the emotions, when they stand in the booth and record these songs and we listen to them, is it possible that we are being involved in a different type of "worship".
Is there some type of subsconcious effect on our joy and our faith.
I mean, i grew up on busta rhymes and nelly, and christian rap has just started to get more creative. Alot of the times i have to train myself to listen to music that uplifts the Lord and remind myself to keep my mind on Him.
Amazing commentary! Thank you for taking the time to share all your insight! 🙏🏽🙏🏽
I see what he's talking about. We gotta be discerning though when choosing from which secular songs we choose to listen to. Cause like television or movies. Not all are evil but not all are editing as well. Some song movies shows are weights in our lives that we gotta let go from..
This is a great topic. I'm a producer so I feel the same way. I came up on dre,timbo,Kanye, and others because I was drawn to the production and learning that craft. Now I can use that and what I learned for the glory of God and bring a different sound. To God be the glory 🙌🏿🙌🏿
@@BOMBERPALMER simple. From every bad situation, create good. Me myself listen to Kanye of the 200s, Nas of the 90s, kendrick and cole, simply because most of their music is creative and improves me in many ways like inspiration when I'm falling asleep or weak, workout, creativity, not giving up. I know they are many musics not too listen to. For example: under the influence by Chris brown, and many 21 savage songs, becsuse he keeps on shouting pu*sy. Evil music is a whole different level and I think that's what Lil uzi vert, nas x sings. Like obviously, you can judge from their lifestyle. Lil uzi vert spent 350k dolls on an upside down chain. Just imagine that. GOD has been so good to me in making me distasteful of any song so polluting.
Forgot to add Eminem
Listennnnn. I really respect Lecrae and the artists that worked hard to change the game. I love that you offer a whole different messge to someone who's looking for "rap music". But up until about 45:19, this sounded like a master class for rap artists. Because you were a pioneer Lecrae, there were a lot of different avenues that you had to travel. But by no means would I encourage my 15-year-old son to listen to secular music. Because the truth of the matter is anyone that is wanting to persue rap and but not necessarily fall into the industry trap, You yourself have made that available to others. You and many many other artists have changed the narrative of how "christian music" sounds.
Yes if someone wanted to become a great filmmaker they could reach out to Spielberg, but they also can reach out to the Kendrick Brothers. The point is that many people have yeilded themselves to CHRIST and vow to be a light not just a lampshade.
And a wholeheartedly agree with what you said about people going into the "hood" and offering alternatives, showing up for everyone and providing a way out
Love you Crae!! 🫶🏾🔥
40:23 Ferrari functioning as a bicycle is some fighting words bruh 🤣
Really good analogy tho
Great episode thank you for this
Is it bad to listen to secular music?
I'm a Christian, and I'm getting Baptized, tomorrow Lord willing❤
It is
No, it's not bad to listen to secular music. It's the type of secular music you listen to. Not all secular music is bad. There are some really good songs/artist out there but if listening to secular music is a stumbling block then it's easier to not listen to it at all.
The Bible tells us to guard our hearts (Prov 4:23). It also tells us our mith speaks what our heart is full of ( Luke 6:45)
If it cause you to stumbling then don't listen.
We all have to remember everyone's walk l with Christ is not going to be the same.
It is bad. Read James 4:4.
This doesn’t mean we judge or don’t love.
God bless you❤
@antinitatyson the Holy Spirit gives us different convictions and they will never go against the word of God.
If you have sang any to any disney movies, or happy birthday, electric slide, Thriller, etc. Those are secular songs as well. Kids listen to coco melon, gracies's corner,...shew we can say the ABC song is secular as well.
There are a lot of artists that sing uplifting or just fun songs.
What you have to be mindful of is the message, the cursing etc in music but not in music also in movies.
And I agree it doesn't mean we do not love a person any less or love them any less.
My late Pastor "Roberto Torres" who was a Producer and Rapper had this same discussion with us as artists during the time you started Reach Records. His vision with working with secular artist, doing production with them, and sharing his faith in Jesus with them was a call he felt God had given him. Our views on this very topic was divided, and what once was, didn't manifest. You breaking this down today made me think of him, and the vision he had. Everyone isn't called to do what you do as you know, but I sincerely believe God has poured out His favor in your life because of the heart you have towards all people. Jesus saw the crowd, and was moved with compassion. I learned a lot today, and thank you for addressing this topic and being led through prayer to do so!
I say no ! I I use to but one Wednesday night at a worship night /Bible study the Holy Spirit convicted me to get rid of my secular music. It was hard because I loved reaggeton , sala etc but I did it. I felt so much better spiritually. Now if I’m in a grocery store and hear a dirty secular song I feel uncomfortable. It’s so worth it. What you listen to , watch , who you are around you become.
Let me say something to that…. Our music, Latin music, is overly sexual and sensual. It is dirty. We need to be real. There is a lot of music like this that has a negative culture. There are other genres that don’t. Explore something new. Cheers.
This Episode made me realize that how much effort you where putting for this industry for decades. Definitely sure that the secular music industry tried their best to stop you but the gates of hell shall not prevail!! @lecrae all I can say to you is thanks for making a revolution... don't stop keep Going much Love from the heart of the Motherland
I think we as Christians should never be torn and compromise on this issues however I do understand the complexities of being a Christian rapper as its your job and craft.....as a christian who isn't a rapper though you should definitely just listen to christ centered gospel music
Dropping gem after gem in this one 💎 I was reminded of the song “No Grease” by Swoope where he says “My alma mater was taught by Marshall Mathers
And Sean Professor Carter and Kanye West for starters
And Tribe Called Quest, and Common, and Nas, André 3000
Three stacks for short
Lupe Fiasco talked all about food and liquor
I took what I learned from the words and I filtered it through the Scriptures”
Yes I listen to secular music. I sing secular music too. I am saved and sanctified, washed in the blood of the Lamb. I sing "Happy birthday" once or twice a month. "Merry Christmas" and most of the theme songs to my favorite TV show 😁. But, for real, I was taught that it was wrong to sing and listen to secular music as a child. I learned as an adult that if I could read a poem, I could listen to a song. I agree with you Lecrae, it's what you let into your heart and soul that condemns you. Now, I don't listen to hard core stuff because that stuff disturbs my Spirit. But I do like songs with little too no swear words or too much sexual content. I like things PG-16. 😇
I stopped listening to music years ago because I can't disipher what's good and what's not good. Some songs have double entendre, so its too difficult to figure out what the artist means. Jay-Z calls himself J hova, which is blasphemy. Ye call himself Jesus, that's blasphemy. Just a few examples of why I don't listen to secular music. The next secular artist you listen to do some research on that person and see if they believe in the same God you believe in. Remember that we wrestle not against flesh and blood.
Little to no lol you are compromised smh
The Bible calls us too see sin as exceedingly sinful
I really liked the video, and how you explained a lot of things which we don’t know because we grown up differently, but thank you for what you’re doing, may God bless you🫶🏻
AMEN LECRAE!!!
you are a voice for the nations!
You can’t compare intentionally turning on lil baby and listening to him to being a bystander who happen to overhear a conversation in a store. That’s not the same 18:00
A store you intentionally walked into
@@ryanmacfarlane7560 not with the intent to listen to music tho
Seriously one of the if not the best conversations I’ve ever heard regarding music, personal convictions, culture, and art.
Haven’t followed crae as well in recent years, but the fact he’s built bridges in the rap game is incredible. I know there’s been a lot of digital pharisees put him on blast for it too. The fact that he’s been able to use the platform and his connections to sew the seeds is doing the real work.
I’m at the point where anything secular disturbs my spirit. Even happy poppy songs or songs with a “good story”… nah I’m good on that.
I feel that, it just doesn’t sit well with my soul even if it’s not explicitly “sinful”, may the Holy Spirit always keep us in the Lord’s will.
Same! I’ve tried but it’s not that I’m white knuckling listening, I just don’t want to. Same for tv shows and movies
Same!!! I thought I was being extra. But after listening for maybe 20 mins the next day my brain is always foggy
Ecclesiastes 2:8
You all are so holy and high that even a pop song from the movie “Trolls” disturbs your spirit? WOW. It’s going to be difficult for your testimony to save anyone as you ostracize the simple people that need the Lord most. You can’t sit down at the table with sinners anymore. Think about that.. there is something wrong there. If a pop song disturbs your gospel, you make the gospel look so weak and porous. You can dance 💃 and you won’t go to hell guys. All that will happen is you will smile and have fun. Be better. Live in the real world instead of making it what Jesus never intended. You can’t be more holy than Jesus.
I needed this.
ahora puedo ir a corea tranquilo total falta harto
Most of the music glorifies the flesh and the things God says that those who practice will not inherit the kingdom. Making money glorifying it as an alternative to selling drugs or crime does not excuse it. Is God gonna say... well, at least you didn't sell drugs...come on in. If the record labels doesnt want to change, then he needs to let it go. You can't serve God and mammon. God’s Gospel is universal, and if we quit trying to help Him out, we will be better off. There is NO JUSTIFICATION FOR SIN.
amen
Wow!!! Thanks for sharing this Lecrae
We need to spread peace like God spread the sea
Teach Bro your amazing!!😊
Ladies and gentlemen!!! God’s people is on the Move.We are rising up.Don’t believe Me? 2025 I will show better than I can Tell You!!!There will a big shift in the music industry 2025.
This is soooo good. On multiple levels. Thanks for your transparency, teaching and perspective.
21 clip at 0:16 is a CLEAR operation of the spirit of doubt, a sin! Psalm 50:15 God made promises to us and wont go back on the word! Believing in Jesus and not obeying his word is exactly what satan does himself. No one can serve two masters - Matthew 6:24 Cut off secular music (satan) or Cut Off God ? Romans 2:12 explains that people are held accountable to God's Word to whatever extent they understand it. “All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law.” In other words, the more you know, the greater your level of accountability so now that you know this will you continue to do as you wish or Gods will. Do not twist the word for your fleshly desires if its hard to turn away from it then its the work of the enemy (flesh desire)
I understand the respect, especially when you said that a lot of cussing was in it
Most of us came from the hood. I understand why they make the music, just like how I used to listen to that type of music .. I wasn't saved, and I grew up on that. We can emphasize with them cause we were once in their shoes, but I'm still not gone listen or want my children to listen to it because the music is toxic and demonic. Let's call a spade a spade. the majority of secular music is demonic. I'm not calling them a demon, but the music is definitely demonic their not hiding it. Music , movies, etc. we definitely, as believers, need to watch what we listen to and watch and allow in our spirit. Use wisdom. You either feed the flesh or the spirit.
Amazing perspective - one thing I’d say as a fellow artist/songwriter and Christian still trying to figure this out for myself (obviously not one on Lecrae’s level but my bedroom counts!) is that there’s a very different relationship w/ secular music for someone a Christian that creates it vs one who just consumes it. Musicians have a genuine reason to study Lil Baby’s cadence in order to keep up with (and hopefully improve upon) the progress made within the music space in their own music so that God can use it to reach others through it’s quality. I listen to secular music on occasion now solely to keep up with new innovative sonic ideas in the industry, but I do take deep issue with the lyrics through the Spirit and can’t enjoy what they’re saying/let myself get enveloped in it the way I once did. Paul did this same thing by becoming familiar with greek “secular” poets. However, someone who doesn’t make music or art themselves as a Christian - there may be a real problem with simply listening to the music and letting it envelop you the way it intends to. Music can be a deeply life-altering, spiritually charged, all-encompassing and immersive experience that, if accompanied by evil ideas, can really seep into a Christian’s spirit and - in my opinion - should invoke a level of conviction. There’s levels to it.
I listen to “secular” music. I listen to a lot of musicals, like Hamilton and I’m not sure if that is “secular” but I don’t listen to it nearly as much as I used to. 90% of what I listen to is worship music. Helps my anxiety.
That’s secular but not evil, there’s a big difference, for example I love jazz, and also an artist I like is Michael Jackson, both Michael and the genre of jazz is secular, but not evil, so not all secular music is evil, we should avoid evil music
That intro was dope 🔥
Music my biggest weakness in my christianity walk
Not trynna self promote too hard here. But if you like hearing secular artists but don’t wanna hear their messages, see what I got going on at my channel.
Might be able to get your fix that way.
Same here bro.
@@not_milk that's dope how you use AI to make those tracks. Nice work.
@@AmbiguousAnthony Thanks bro!
@@not_milkbro you’re creative I would never imagine
Thank you @lecrae for embracing NUANCE! This topic of conversation for YEARS has always been heavily driven by binary thinking! Some ONLY see black and white and we never talk about the GREY area that we ALL live in. I hate that we are still having this conversation; but I get it! 🤷🏾♂️
Fr! I've been some what cleaning up
Great content on this topic of music! Sooo much to glean and chew the cud on 😂 , thank you 👊🏾👍🏾🎼🎤
Great episode of the deep end Lecrae very relatable &TRUE!🔥🔥💯I don’t listen to secular music anymore but when I do it’s only songs that God may put on my path potentially for me to grow and pray for people who are stuck in that secular music realm &the artists. But all in all no I don’t normally listen to secular music anymore but I was raised with it all and it had a huge strong hold on me in my life for as long as I can remember until only 3 years ago I gave up that music and only listen to Christian music and I am also an artist Christian rapper I use to rap for the devil now I use my gift for Jesus too honour him and others. Blessings 🙏🏼❤️
Beautiful way of answering that question Mr Lecrae , I know a lot of people won't agree with what you said because it is a very sensitive topic but i totally agree
Now he says he’s a Christian rapper lol. And this isn’t hate Crae. Bear with me and read the below
We would like you to circle back to this topic. I agree with Datin early on when he said you seemed to duck the title like you were ashamed of your brethren and faith
I’m a street guy. Got saved at 15 but left the Lord at 16 running the streets from 16-20. Hung with the vice lord’s, black stone moes, black mafia, c fluids, etc. Sold weed, chased women, listened to 36, Project Pat, MJG & 8 ball. I repented and came back to the faith at 20. My wife introduced me to Cross Movement, Da Truth, and Flame. And CHH helped me come back to the faith so strong I’m grateful 20 years later. That’s why I fight for the C in HH and have had some stronger rebukes for you Crae. Look how much the music influenced me and even your early stuff. I felt the anointing in the earlier CHH stuff. Was heavy into This’l, R Swift, J Johnson (aka Silas), J’son, Timothy Brindle, Everyday Process, and many many more CHH artists and groups. I’ve been able to also give others struggling with listening to secular music, godly content to turn to
I personally believe many of y’all forgot about your brethren and were trying to make a name in the secular arenas. And I understand and get that to a point. But it rubbed me the wrong way because I felt there was a compromise by some of y’all to befriend the world to get into their circles. I recall Joseph, Daniel, and the three Hebrew boys and saw how they moved. They didn’t compromise their faith or character to win the world. They actually were promoted for their walk with TMH. Also, the early church of Acts, they influenced the culture, not the other way around. Remember they even said “those who turn the world upside down are now here”. A lot of the brethren even paid the ultimate price with their lives.
So that’s why I had an issue with some of the rappers who say they’re Christian at the end instead of being a Christian up front. Y’all music is “Reaching” more people than you know and up front you didn’t have to compromise the faith. Remember y’all music is keeping some in the faith as well. Yes we are to go and witness to the world but we also got many backsliding and leaving the faith and if your moves contributed to that, I wouldn’t want to be in that convo with The Most High because you’ve lead someone astray by some of the co-signs with the worldly artists. I left 36 alone for a reason, because their music was evil. And I see God is working on Project because he’s starting to get bold with his faith. I pray Juice repents and turns back to Christ too. Their dad is a pastor
If you can’t bump the music windows down at a stop light or in front of kids, family, etc., then you know something ain’t right
Amen brother, I too was highly impacted by artists such as Lecrae growing up, and not any of his stuff from about 2016 onwards. His old stuff was Jesus or nothing, which should be how we as Christians view things. Sure, I could go listen to secular music that doesn’t necessarily have sinful content, but why? Christians should be asking why they so badly want to cling to things of this world when they have been called to no longer belong to it. Further I am commenting so I don’t want to lose my spot here but Paul notes this when he’s speaking of having the ability and freedom to do all things but not all things are beneficial. Overall, it’s literally Christian hip hop because it’s NOT secular hip hop and we shouldn’t be ashamed of the title because it literally contains Christ’s name in it. What shall it profit a man to gain the whole world but lose his own soul, is anything worth more than your soul? - Jesus Christ
God bless you brother, may you remain in Jesus as He remains in you, Amen.
@@EnriqueAmen amen my brother! Now to think of me still in the faith 20 years later. God used CHH to keep me on this side. The music I listened to was a struggle of mine. I was influenced early listening to music as a kid. And especially as a black man, the hood, music, etc were father figures to us when our dads weren’t around. We want to be what we heard and seen and unfortunately I see how the devil has used hip hop to program narratives about the black community. I wish my color brothers would wake up and see these lies as well. Just look at our culture’s music and hear the lyrics. No other genre talks about the sins ours does. It glorifies sex, drugs, violence, gangs, etc. This is why I defend CHH because I see what satan is doing. Like Paul said concerning the Jews, he wished they would lay their culture down to come to Christ. I wish my people would lay our skin color down and come to the truth of his Word
I sent this video to a couple respected men of God in my life and asked for their input:
1) I agree about the rap genre.
The music is a tool. How it is used matters.
Rock music was secular before any Christian Rock existed and I absolutely love some of the Christian rock, music.
However, as I've matured more with being married, I rarely listen to it.
My heart is now laser focused on uplifting biblical messages, and praise and worship.
2) Yes, all music genres can be redeemed, but also agree with Lecrae, can also be a stumbling block.
3) is secular music OK for most all of us to listen to. No!!
The negative messages and meditation of the heart is mostly worldly , demonic, evil.
Lecrae says that he can appreciate the music without the message, but would I recommend that the majority of believers allow negative messages near our hearts and mind? No!
This is why we don't personally have cable TV and immediately turn off and skip certain ads on the Internet.
4) I have heard a preacher once say something like "you're better off watching hard-core porn, than letting the sewage of this world( TV programs, sitcoms, MSM)
go through your brain day after day"
I absolutely agree. I would never try to start a "porn watchers rights advocacy group" like some of the people of the world.
I know it's evil and that's why I have forsaken it. I never said to my friends or customers while I was caught up in that addiction " gee, you should've seen the porn flick I seen last night! this episode was so cool!"
But try to get some of the non-spirit filled Christians to agree that they should not be watching the same crap as the world on TV and you will face extreme resistance.
To advocate that it's OK to listen to secular music just adds to their debauchery.
4) As a professional with the sincere desire to capture the best music and feelings is his God-given gift! yes , Lecrae could benefit from listening, and I'm sure that most skilled Christian music artists do go through a bunch of secular music for the melodies and the heart.
But it is very dangerous.
I definitely would never recommend that for 80% of the body of Christ.
5) There are endless admonitions in the scriptures about separating the holy from the profane!
6) We don't have Netflix. We don't have any secular TV.
We are even very careful about what we watch on UA-cam and Facebook and Instagram.
We not only need to be very careful about what we let in, but also what COMES OUT of our mouth.
If I'm singing the same things as the godless, worldly culture… I'm confessing wickedness, unbelief, and perversion; depression, doom and destruction.
7) I love good music and am probably one of the greatest critics of most Christian music, not having the guts to step out into great powerful melodies and hard driven, gut wrenching messages.
My wife works for a Christian radio station and I wish things could be different! (To their credit They have provided alternatives to their "airwaves" stations on the Internet, which is awesome! they have one for rock and one for rap/ hip hop and one for Hispanic music).
But those kind of things don't sell because the entire Christian market is mostly dominated financially by soccer moms and the type of religious people that Lecrae is speaking against who don't want their kids, listening to "that kind of music"
I agree ...it is prejudice.
Still, I would rather listen to bad Christian melodies which speak God's biblical truth than good secular music.
8) If you're going to target the lost like Lecrae is doing with having his music accepted in both genres, you better make sure you're very mature and very anchored.
One of the old and wiser elders of a church we used to attend said “clean don't rub off on dirt"
Your life sounds miserable...
This is not about whether christians should or should not do something. This is about being a Christian filled with the Holy Spirit do you desire to listen to secular music and if you test the spirit of said music by the spirit of God I am sure he will lead you and guide you into all truth. This could apply to many things in the world. 1 John 4:5-6,
This is a great conversation... I can see how people can argue both sides