I think Sondae is the best example of someone who praises God throughout his music! His songs are fully directed at God, super scripture-based, and insanely high-quality. While his genre isn't traditional CHH, it captures the essence - it's more like a fusion of lofi, Afrobeat, and hip-hop. Even his songs about himself are directed towards God, which is beautiful to see! Another awesome CHH artist is Jackie Hill Perry - her new album "Practice" is all about work ethic and God, not flashy or self-centered. It's all about glorifying God and continually preaching His message!
Tip: Read the lyrics first. If you’re listening to a new song that you think you’ll like, pause it after 15-30 seconds to read the lyrics. If it’s safe, listen to the rest. That way you won’t struggle to let it go, or be tricked into believing you’re missing out on a “good song” that is actually harmful to you. There could be times when you think it’s okay, until you finally hear the Holy Spirit telling you to turn away. Be obedient to that discernment, pray and read the bible if you’re still unsure. Don’t question how God will provide the answer before you’ve tried asking, He’ll surprise you. Remember: Words matter more. A good beat to back them up is a plus. People are realizing that the songs / artists they listen to were encouraging spiritual harm or disrespecting God (Matt. 7:15;18-19). So if someone recommends a song to you, even if you trust them, read the lyrics first. Cause at the end of the day it’s YOUR journey alone with God. Songs can have heavy influences (Prov. 18:20-21 | Matt. 12:33;37). We can’t be eager to agree with what our friend group has on repeat if we feel the song is problematic. Desire to lead people toward the true Good News that is Jesus Christ (Acts 5:20) and consider Matt 7:3-5 when you do. Don’t trip alongside them if you’re given the gift to see / hear what they can’t. May you be reminded every day that Lord Jesus paid for your forgiveness in full. Glory to God, stay obedient to His will!
As a Christian Artist myself, I low-key get you but i’d say it’s not more so being boastful but testifying of the goodness of God even in those materialistic things. There is songs where I rap about spiritual things and Jesus how God saved me from a spiritual point of view, but there is also song where i rap about the blessings and struggles of being a Christian in the physical world. But it’s never to exalt myself but to testify to those who think God won’t do that for you and you should sell your souls to become wealthy because with God he just wants you to suffer to be come holy. I remember even as a secular artist that used to be my mindset, And i became a believer before a Christian Rap but discovering the Hulvey’s showed my that the dream God gave me can still be lived out as a Christian.
@imsotumelo I totally understand. Yet again, my point is that too many of these christian rappers focus on blessings and not salvation or redemption. Not everyone is call to the 'worldly success' however Jesus's heart is for all to be saved. That's what I would love to see more of. More of salvation and building up of the faith
@ I feel you, was also saying this the other day on Christian Rap blog post about “What need to changed in CHH” and i said we need more worship in CHH because we most make testimonial music and it can come off self service because it sounds like what God does for you all the time and not repentance and loving him solely for who He is.
I think it’s definitely having a heart to worship the LORD has to start either the individual. The problem is instead of stepping back from the mic to allow the LORD to prune many artists who are in the Christian music industry still put out music anyways which is wrong. Souls over numbers. That shows the selfishness within the person that must be addressed. How can an artist be on lukewarm , a lack of discipleship , still drinking milk though the LORD desires for them to eat meat ,or even worse on their way to hell and still claim Jesus is truly LORD? Not saying every artists is like this. Some really love Jesus ,but a lot of the music is being watered down for views, likes, and comments.
@@JustStheshCHH is at the best it’s been in a while bro and I’ve been listening for more than 10 years. We are so quick to say something is worldly but we have to understand we have the power and ability in what God created. Understand different styles of rap and even the aspect of just making music as art. My point is that most people you mentioned share the gospel and speak on it enough not to say there isn’t some who need to change. It’s better to say that it may be a small problem but not a big one CHH is expanding and we are in a new era we have to accept what’s coming because of the change in music in general. Love the points just don’t thing it’s that relevant when artist shouldn’t be held to the same standard as pastors.
“speaking to one another with psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit. Sing and make music from your heart to the Lord,” Ephesians 5:19 my personal problem as a former secular hip hop/rap listener is idolizing the artist and certain songs to the point of overplaying them, wanting to be like them. Being held captive to the lifestyle. Not good. I had to lay down rap until I got a good grasp in the Word. Newly born Christians can be great artists for the Lord but I’d strongly encourage to not release your songs of praise until it is word proofed. “Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” -Matthew 5:19 We don’t want to least, we want to be GREAT! No one sets out to be least especially for the Lord. We want to be GREAT! A persons heart can be right and loving the Lord but the knowledge and wisdom might not bee seen through their words. Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding. In all your ways, acknowledge Him and He will make your paths straight. Proverbs 3:5-6
Amazing video! This applies to all Christian music. We must be vigilant about what we allow ourselves to listen to. And your last point about discernment is 100% accurate. May God grant us discernment and wisdom as we draw nearer to Him! God bless you.
I’m honestly glad somebody made a video about this because I’ve been saying this for a WHILE now… and ppl called me crazy and didn’t think i was right.
I created the instrumental behind Lecrae’s “DWYL.” This came out when Christian rap was in a dark place. It shifted a lot of our industry, the anointing of God was in that song because it encouraged and changed lives all around the world.
Been listening to CHH for about 2 decades and what I will say is that there is a spectrum that exist that can appeal to different stages in your personal walk but the music is also perspective on where that artist is in their personal relationship with Christ
I agree, I also think that not all music has to be entirely Christ centered and referencing scripture at every step, if an artist wants to express a human experience in the context of his faith, I don't think that's a problem. for example, if you started off in bad situation and God took you out of that with the gift he gave you and you decide to make a sort of victory anthem, while thanking GOD and keeping away from any abhorrent prideful statements, I'd believe that to be a wonderful thing.
I've read through the comments and most people seem to be on track. rare stuff. I've been listening to CHH for a decade plus now and this video is spot on. Another thing i see CHH artist do which shouldn't be encouraged is "always reflecting on their past". what I mean by this is: 1st album - talked about how you were in sin, depression, God saved you. 2nd album - reminded us about you were in sin, your vices, how you were saved, 3rd album - still reminding us of your past life, where you came from to where you are now. ~ do you see the pattern?~ As the voice that you are, you need to recognize that growth is a very important part of your music. you must lead your audience, fans to growth. your listeners should grow from being saved - to be babies - to worship - to a personal relationship with God. As your career advances you must go deeper, your fellowship with God must become better for you to be the channel for something more with your music. Otherwise you are just a secular artist without cuss words.
You’re really neat for speaking out about this! Keep watching and being discerning of the culture around you whether Christian or secular, you’ll go far :) Was super refreshing to watch this!
Grateful that this video was recommended to me, I agree with the points you made about the boasting and materialism in CHH! Humility and sincere love for Jesus are things that are hard to fake, but when it's real, it shows up in the lyrics. A lot of these artists are just showing the overflow of their heart from their lips/lyrics.
Preach I’m a Christian hip hop artist and I’m growing with God daily . One thing I can say when I first started making music at 12 and didn’t release it till I was 15 a lot happened to me at that time. Now that time has changed and God has been leading me speaking as a Christian youth God knows his children and who is not a sheep in wolfs clothing. You can’t be a lukewarm Christian. You are either on fire for God or cold. Can I get a amen 🙏
thank u bro. I'm a starting musician who wants to get more into the Christian rap scene but this is a solid warning against pride and glofirying oneself instead of the Lord. God bless
Yo I love the intention of this video whether or not Christians accept it we all need to be held accountable righteously. With that said a bit of grace should be the basis of the relationship between the artists and the consumer. Christ is work through all of us at different paces. Love what you’re doing though brother as much as we celebrate the growth of CHH we got to remember what our reference calls us to do. Keep it up!
I completely agree with everything you've shared and expressed in this video. We have to separate holy from unholy, and getting too close can be highly dangerous. We have seen what happens if you don't differentiate the two. People become lost, confused, double-minded, or straight-up uninterested in trying to purify the music or activities that they entertain. I'm happy you are still open to christian rap. There are also other genres that are just as good, like christian reggae, lofi, and afrobeat.
Yo, bro. As a Christian rapper myself, I just want to tell you that you do an awesome job with calling out the problems in the Christian hip hop industry. I've heard that many artists actually misuse the Christian music platform to get famous because they failed in the secular music platform. God bless you and stay strong. Victory to Jesus ALWAYS. 😀👍
Brother in Christ, I just shared this video with my community group! Keep making videos as the Lord leads you 💯 The gentle but firm warning was needed and I see you are stewarding the gifts that he has placed in you. Praise God
I do Christian Rap too and sometimes listening to someone who talks about his journey with God in a Song edifies yourself too, because we as Christians share the same struggles and blessings. But listening to a Christian Song about blessings would be wrong if you are in a sad state in your faith, so it depends where you at and the perfect Bible verse about this topic is this: James 5:13-15 13 Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms. 14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: 15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
There's so much wisdom in this video. Thanks for being obedient to the Lord by sharing this, because for sometime now i have felt some conviction that i wasn't so sure of as i listened to some Christian songs. This is definitely the Lord speaking through you. Thanks bro 💜
as saved ex rapper and current preacher I completely agree with you and personally. The reason I did not transition to Christian rap is because it did not come out as natural as secular rap came out. Another reason is that I was not able to separate myself from rap culture as a whole when listening to Christian rap, I just had something connecting me to secular part, but it is completely possible to make Christian rap work Many secular artists do include Christian aspects in their songs, we can clearly see they're lifestyle they portray online which plant certain seeds in new believers. we can guess that these artists truly are fighting a battle and we can just pray for them but as a Christian rapper you are portraying to be of the lord and have an strong influence on those of the lord therefore you have to be sensitive with what you plant in their minds, you do not want to deprive your brother or sister who lack knowledge as this could lead to sin. Let us not be of this world but be renewed by the spirit. (You're hearing this from someone who refused to sell he's soul for worldly pleasures.) God Bless you all :)
This is great bro. Without actually releasing anything I’ve been making Christian rap for a while. And I keep having to observe it because there was always something I didn’t think was glorifying to god, it’s almost like habit to talk about worldly things and it’s something I’ve noticed and want to change. With that being said, you pointed out something I needed to hear, because I didn’t even realize some of my inspirations in Christian hip hop were doing these things, so I appreciate this video, and I do look forward to anything you do in the future. God bless bro
@RJ_2002 I'm glad that this video helped you confirm some things in the christian rap industry. I hope that you make the music that glorifies Jesus and Jesus alone . I can't wait to hear the change you will bring❤️🙏🔥
You made ALOT of good points! I gave wordly music a permanent break but when i tried to return to my specific Christian rap playlist, I wasn’t feeling it at all. Especially the ones with the drill beats. I love those beats but they drag my memory back to my sinful past 😢
I noticed this recently listening to one of the rappers you mentioned. I think people are blinded by the fact something is christian labeled, that it must be good or "at least they're not rapping about xyz" but theres a way to do things. If believers dont speak out about it from a pure place and a place of love (if led to) then we'd be doing new believers a disservice by not exposing light on something that can allow Christ to convict them or the artist themselves or as a warning to those who want to get into that form of artistry. Thank you for your commentary and your editing is very good and the intro intrigued me to keep watching.
I completely understand where you are coming from and thank you for your humility in sharing your 2 cents dawg. Though I believe it's important to remember first of all that CHH is music i.e. art. It's not a sermon. These artists are not pastors nor preachers when they enter the booth. People will express themselves in their most authentic manner while still staying faithful to God wherever they are in their faith journey. I think we need to give our brothers and sisters the space and the grace to do that. Not every Christian rapper sees their music as ministry and some do. And that's okay because there's nowhere in the bible where it explicitly says one's artistic expression must save souls. The artists that do however, those are the ines we can share with new believers provided the doctrine is sound. As for the others--seeing these guys as regular people who just happened to be Christians, that make music, will free us of alot of scrutinizing and energy being wasted on people who we don't even know personally, instead of focusing on our own problems in our own lives. As for the gun metaphors, we see quite a number of warfare metaphors used in scripture in a positive way, so I think these guys are in the clear. I just felt the need to leave my own 2 cents here because im really passionate about CHH. Not all CHH is the same and that's fine. As long as each artist is being faithful to God and their conscience. God bless mfowethu✊🏽
THANK YOU. This is what I was saying!!! Although i will add that looking to rappers to provide the main thing to build your faith is just not wise. Rappers are not your Pastors. Music is a supplement not your sustenance.
I wholeheartedly agree I’ve been struggling with some Christian rappers music some of it is great but a lot of had me wondering “ How does this really glorify God”
I’ve struggled with this same topic for years now. Grew up on CHH, my pops only played CHH.. artists like Timothy brindle, beautiful eulogy, ambassador, DA Truth, old school lecrae. The music was much different back then in the early 00s, I’m a 02’ baby so once my pops got saved this was all he played. Thanks for pointing this out bro, I really appreciate you for taking time to do research and put together this video.
Thank you, we need more people talking about this!! I've been listening to Christian rap for a few years now and a few months ago my eyes were opened to how a lot of "Christian" rappers lyrics aren't even glorifying Jesus anymore. Just because it's labelled 'Christian' doesn't mean it is.
I started listening to Christian rap in 2023 and WHATUPRG was the first. Bro, I noticed the secular vibe that RG has even in the song God Made a way. I think that these Christian rappers need God. No cap I still listen to WHATUPRG, his songs are dope, I think these artists should change their way of Christian rap, but keep on praying for them. God bless u brother. ❤
First of all, to put Christian and rap together in the first place has been a blessing for me. Separating it from secular music on my walk with God. The Lord opened me up to a whole new world of music that’s ultimately glorifying his name no matter how it may come off to some. At the end of the day, none of these artists are cursing and glorifying violence or negative topics of the enemy. These rappers/artists aren’t pastors so we shouldn’t be judging or expecting the same mission from them. Focus on the good from this genre, we got the first Christian hip-hop set at Rolling Loud Miami. History in the making! 🙏🏾
I second your sentiment. As I mentioned in my comment above, the scriptures is full of various themes such as worship, war, love, intimacy, lament, history and not just the death and resurrection of Christ. CHH is better than ever before because of its diversity in its subject matter. Its not perfect, because you will have imperfect people make mistakes in their presentation, but thats the beauty of art! We grow, and we learn and through that we get more creative works of art. Every artists, as long as they arnt directly breaking commands in the scripture, have the freedom to navigate their creativity (Rom 14).
I’ve been on a similar journey, I think as you grow by God’s grace your appetite for God’s word grows as well and tbh it’s not very prevalent in most of the Christian rappers songs. Even in their videos too, as you said, except two that I’ve found exceptional, (Holy Spirit by Hulvey and No longer bound by Forrest Frank are really amazing cause they’re focused on God’s power through people’s testimonies/baptisms). It’s a really important point to note what you have in this conversation, thanks for sharing :)
i agree with you. i'm not that much into christian rap anymore, but something didn't sat right with my soul with certain artist. as what you said is that many of them tell how good their life is because of God (what i understand since it is a testimony and we also need to praise the Lord) but it is in almost every song they make and then they are also prideful of it. someone in the comments said that sondae makes amazing music. and i agree! i would also love to add madison ryann ward and darla baltazar. she makes lofi-RnB gosoel song (sometimes she makes songs out of hymns or out of certain scripture)
Been listening to Christian Rap since mid 2000s, I’ll say brother that this has been going on for longer than 4 years for sure. There was a time where you spoke up about it you were labeled as being “too Pharisee”. I’m glad to see we are ima time where men like yourself are speaking about it lovely and with wisdom. Unfortunately person who brought Christian rap to many ears was lecrae. He had many songs deep in doctrine about God, but now is the person who also started the bringing of the culture in the Christian Rap as well. I pray God gives us discernment and that we seek him first and his word so we know what we should listen too
I guess part of the equation is how you see the music, Is it a Ministry vs An Occupation/Job, Obviously we do all things to glorify Christ but you get what I mean. And I would agree that boastfulness has become more of an issue. But something to keep in mind is that a lot of these artists come from different backgrounds and what's normal to them and the lens they see the world can be quite different to what you or me might see things as, what I've found helpful is to give the artist/person the benefit of the doubt If I don't fully understand what there saying but obviously if they're compromising e.g Spreading false teaching etc then staying away is the way to go. But for personal listening always go with your conscious, if you don't feel uplifted or that they aren't glorifying God then listen to something else that you feel comfortable with.
@DavidLivick thank you for that feedback, bro. I appreciate it. 🙏I did state in the video that this wasn't to bash at anyone but to bring an awareness to christian music. We all are a large family and things will be different from time to time but we should help one another when we falling away . And to me the christian rap industry seems like it's falling. I also talked about how they are some who actually rap the gospel.🔥
I understand what you mean by "Make Christ the soul focus" and I agree Caleb Gordan Psalm 91 is great. But for new Christians it may not be the best. Because you can just feed a baby a steak. You have to let it have something it's used to then we can turn off secular aspects. (LOVE YOUR VIDS JUST WANTED TO SHARE❤(
J Monty "I don't care if I'm the TOP PIC as long as my God is the TOPIC" Someone needs to preach to these rappers. They need to realize the influence they have in general. If they aren't doing it in truth they'll lead people away from Christ
Thank you for doing this brother!! I like saying things that i notice and be like or is it just me, but now that you have also seen it and speaking up against it... I'm glad. GOD bless you. ❤🤍🙌
This is a great perspective and I've definitely had these same thoughts here and there. I've been consuming CHH for about a year and a half now and fully remove secular music. Like you said, discernment is important and we definitely have to keep our focus on Christ
I listen to KOU!!!, Lil Capo, Secret!, Garko, Tylan1k & Vennisay. These artists are lazer focused on saving souls. They are the new breed that God is raising up, not for CHH, but for Christians. 🔥🔥🔥
I listen to SECRET! A lot. He’s a Gospel drill rapper from the Bronx. I have 1 song from KOU l listen to a lot. It’s called “Big Blues” by KOU. If you’re into Gospel Drill, Check out Konola, to me is the best Gospel Drill Artist from the UK. His album LIGHT SWITCH is CRAZY 🔥🔥🔥 His other album PURPLE PURPOSE is more R&B vibes. Shows he really has range as an artist. SECRET! Has an album called “CHRISTIANS CAN’T DO WHAT”, that’s really cold to me
@lawrencebello97 I listen to KOU!!! A lot. I think 85% of 2024 I've just been listening to KOU. He dropped a big album last year called 'I Just Wanted To Be Something...'. This year, he has an upcoming album called 'KOUSKI' dropping Jan 20th. The guy is just too fire, an the things he speaks about motivates me to plant gospel seeds in my community. As for Secret! I like his new album 'Holy Hits 3: Before The Finale'. I think the new drill album 'CCD2' was too fire to listen to. Almost every song was upbeat, there was hardly time to rest, but I guess that's what you should expect from a 'Christians Can't Do What' album. I really like 'Holy Hits 3' though, it's a bit more comfortable for me to listen to.
Facts bro. Glad someone has said something about that. Because these days the visuals of Christians music videos is really suspect, if you mute the volume you would think it's secular
I like kb and I think he sends a good message. I haven’t seen much of that in his videos because I don’t think he would like that lol. I got his book for Christmas and it’s pretty good!
I been listening to Christian rap since I got saved.. T Bone is the one that made me love it this was wayyyyyy back in the early thousands (yes I’m old) then lecrae came in with “Jesus Muzik” that song right there change the landscape.. it was different and it didn’t sound like the world .. but over time it began to mix with the world and the holiness left.. (holy means to be separate) Christian rap is a vibe but it’s lost it’s holiness
I love the approach to this as you are based on the depth. Being an Chh artist is something to be proud of as you are a kingdom’s servant a tool used through music to bring souls. So you should reflect Christ. And it’s not easy to do it on an uptempo hip hop beat so I get it but if you are willing to be a Chh artist you should be taking your time and be willing to make a really good end product to be profound and touch as many souls as possible.
The problem is the industry is facing to an era where the ppl are being vague abt making music fr, sorry but CHH is not the same of mid 2000s and 2010s
Well said brother. I’ve made Christian rap myself in times past and I made those similar mistakes as well. But the Lord showed me what I was doing and I repented of that movement to really make music that truly glorifies him and not the world. My stance now is Christian rap isn’t sinful. But compromise can be easy when you add worldly influences to the song that’s supposed to be used for ministry/evangelism purposes. Even down to the appearance and the sound of the track, it should match his characteristics and it should be rooted in love. Can’t mix the gospel message and words of adoration unto God with a sound that is influenced by the world, the works of the flesh, or made with the purpose to usher in unclean spirits to the hearer and not the Holy Spirit. We can’t minister grace to the hearer with Christian rap by sounding worldly and appearing to be worldly for the sake of having a draw. It’s the Lord’s draw and not ours. So it’s our responsibility to represent him rightly and not mix his holiness and righteousness with the patterns of the world in song form.
May all the praise be to God for putting this on your heart and sending your message to those who needed to hear it. May Jesus continue to intercede for the strengthening of your faith and may your ministry be fruitful, in Jesus' name, Amen.
I ageee, but to be fair the secularism and “my life success means my relationship with God must be great”, is a trend amongst mainstream Christian churches/ preaching as well. I would argue that the root cause of CHH being the way it is is mainstream Christianity. The Mike Todd’s of the world has pushed this secular/ success message to the masses. But yeah great video though that covers a proximate issue. My point is mainstream CHH music is pushing the message of “the church”, and until that message changes… CHH won’t change.
I think the "gun" metaphor is supposed to be a modern representation of when the bible would say "sword of the spirit" metaphor. I don't think I entirely agree with you on that one since swords were always used for violence in the past and today, so making the excuse that we shouldn't say guns just cause its been killing people kinda says the same about swords too, since those have been killing people wayyy before guns became existent, yet the bible still uses those metaphors. I think still as a christian artist it is ok to be a little bit less soft in my music, but still there has to be a balance between being soft and being rough because there we're times where Jesus was not soft toward people, but he balanced being gentle toward people too. Anyways those are just my. thoughts, if I'm wrong, correct me, I will do my own research into any responses into this to make sure. But thanks! Very insightful video
As a Christian artist, I think people suffering from legalism will never fully appreictae REAL CHRISTIAN ARTIST who are well rounded individuals because it doesnt always fit in a "Church" box. Christian artist are still real people. We love the LORD, we worship God, we give him praise and we still go through things. We still have character flaws that need work, we still have things we struggle with and we are STILL talking about the Gospel, God & the way we are to live in this world in the fullness of what being a Christian is and means. Most people cannot appreciate that until they get off of their self-righteous soapbox & allow God to reveal to them the depths of our messages, which are Holy Spirit filled.
Exactly. It's actually crazy to criticise Christian artists because their videos have cars, money and have drip. This feels like criticising the book of Esther or Solomon because you can't see Christ in it as much as Matthew. Crazy work.
Let me give you some advice. I know it is unsolicited. NEVER look to music as the main thing that feeds your faith. That is as insane as looking to snacks for your main physical nourishment and not properly cooked meals with all the nutrients you need. The main thing that feeds your faith should NEVER BE music even if it is preaching at you solid theology. I wish every person of faith understood this. What feeds your faith is grace through prayer, study and community with solid loving believers and you having loving elders who are solid over you NOT looking to music FIRST. Also Paul used metaphors like the sword of the Spirit and in his day they were the equivalent of guns that killed people so… Anyway stop looking to music as the main thing for the nourishment of your faith.
@KarlNova music is influential whether we know it or don't. So what u listen to and what u watch is powerful. I didn't say u only feed your faith through music alone. Otherwise, thank you for your feedback, brother🔥🙏
@@JustSthesh yes music is influential but should it be more influential than prayer, studying your bible, being in fellowship with other believers and having solid elders over you? Is it more influential than all those things in your life? If it is, you have made music an idol. This is the problem, people place too much importance on music and give it too much power and influence over them. No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to make music such a big thing in your life. But hey, I am just giving my two cents. I know what I am talking about, you don’t know who i am or what I’ve seen. Peace out!
@KarlNova I agree. Thus, in the video, I said 'new believers' will take it the wrong way, seeing a Christian rapper 'flexing' . So it's better to preach the gospel through your songs to help those who are starting out
@@JustSthesh i don’t think you’re hearing me and it’s cool. With time what I am saying will make more sense. All rappers are not the same and all music isn’t for everyone. Everyone isn’t going to do music the way you think they should. Anyway music isn’t the main thing and everyone of faith needs to truly know this in their hearts. New believers need to know from the start that they’re not following rappers even if those rappers are preaching the bible all in their raps, they are following Christ and need to understand that’s what they signed up for. I’ll say no more (i am not a Christian rapper by the way)
This is a amazing video especially for Christians changing there music taste and with the rise in Christian rappers it's hard to discern at times. Thanks for this video you got yourself a new subscriber ❤
When i first was born again i was listening to lecrae and bunch of other rappers. When God started giving me wisdom and I became more filled with his word, I started to notice his songs become more worldly and more about him boasting in luxury rather than being meek and humble in spirit. At that point I couldn’t take it and cut rap off completely. I started listening to traditional hymns and yeah they may not be as hype and “boring” but they really display God’s true love and mercy for us.
I totally agree with this. I grew up listening to Christian rap and I think it's pretty good, but some of the songs I think "How does this song have god in it" and most of them don't have God. Most of the rappers talk about themselves but says "God helped me" but that's still boasting
Hear this heavy my next project and further purifying my music this will be deeply thought about and taken in I’ve been thinking this aswell even in my last project Dead To The World which was still a project of my purging my own flesh stay blessed king
powerful video brother there was a time i was deep into CHH but i see tthese artist become more worldly on a daily n as they become more accepted by the world they r losing the uniqueness of the music n i dont think every worldly song should be remixed by a christian cause i dont eve listen to secular music at all. n when ur a baby believer it cool but as a mature believer u long for something deeper with more substance n scripture bout YAH. this is y nowadays i listen to this artist called Darak ibar, look him up his music is very deep and good and very scriptural its amazing brother u woont regret it.
Another issue that we might be seeing in both Christian and secular rap is that there’s bound to be a lack of humility and honesty on some people’s parts. We also see that it’s rare to hear songs about struggles and real personal conflicts just after making songs about how successful the artists are for most of their careers. The best possible example I can give is with Dax, an artist I’ve listened to for months now. Years ago, he made songs about his successes but he made a few mistakes and has gotten the ire of a lot of people. It was only until he released “Dear Alcohol” when his career had gotten a much needed jumpstart and his new audience had pushed the song to be his most popular one yet. The reason why it was so was because “Dear Alcohol” was different; it was a song about real struggle and a lot of people related to it. Little to nobody can relate to someone getting a million dollar mansion or super car or the company of the sexually promiscuous. If I were to release a rap song or anything of the sort, I’d wanna be real to others and to myself. I’d want to let people know, “I’m not the best nor will I ever be. I just wanna put my honest thoughts out there.”
Yes yes yessss to everything you said!! I’m so glad you talked about this. I’ve been wanting to speak on it too, but you articulated this SO well and respectfully!! As Christians, we gotta be careful with the beats some of these artists use too. I used to really like Childlike CiCi, but after a while, I realized the aggression in her voice and the beats she’s on started making me do hand motions and dances that I would do and feel ways I would feel when I listened to secular music. She was often saying the “right” things in her music but I didn’t like the way I felt, you know. You’re right too about the gun metaphors 😭 esp when they talk about killing demons. It’s like, I get it.. but come on. Hahaha This was such a great conversation. Thanks for this video!
4:46: I personally don't think they're trying to boast about themselves but about what God has done so people come to God. Also when they "boast" they mostly give the steps like how you have to do things in God's realm to achieve great things. So don't look at it as boasting look at it as a testimony (LOVE YOUR VIDS JUST WANTED TO SHARE❤)
I agree my brother in Christ. I hate the boasting in Christian rap and material flexing. I used to not notice it but as I’ve grown in Christ I notice it more. Honorable mention is Eugy Official Kijan Boone MTM ISAIAH They stay on the ROCK which is Christ ✝️❤️🔥🙏
@@JustSthesh I wanna recommend: I need help by Connor price and Maverick City!! Such a Christian rap song, has flow, bars, and it portrays the word of God!
theres this one rapper named "yvngxzaye" hes a perfect balance of new modern not corny christian music that is christ centered and not self focussed and testimonial based.
You can actually hear the praise in hulvey and Caleb's songs, hulvey is more exhortation amd Caleb's songs are more of proverbs or ecclesiastical, Alex Jdan songs are pure praise and even one of them speaks about submission to God . They don't exactly use "worldly" language, you're point is valid but like you said they're trying to draw people in but there is a certain wisdom to it, they're using it in line with what the bible says like direct metaphors, nobigdyl, Andy Mineo and Lecrae do this very well. They also give advice and warning in their songs as well, like how to love as a Christian or how to stand out, the videos might need some upgrades in certain areas but it's not really for us to criticize at the end of the day, they're all put under someone by God and whoever that person is will correct them if necessary. I've been listening to Christian rap for a while like it wasy first ontroduction to hip hop. So i get most of the questions that you have and I've come to understand that there is a place and a need for such music in The Kingdom.
This makes sense, thanks for sharing! It’s important for people to still have to be mindful and use discernment though. Especially when you want to continue to grow as a Christian. I agree w what this guy is saying. There are some great songs, but not every song fully evokes Christianity. Esp some of the artists you mentioned. Nobigdyl is pretty prideful and sometimes judgmental and arrogant. Lecrae even has a song with Ty Dolla sign in which Ty does say a few worldly things. I think it should be more about Jesus and the Bible versus being in line with the Bible, if it’s really all about God.
I think Sondae is the best example of someone who praises God throughout his music! His songs are fully directed at God, super scripture-based, and insanely high-quality. While his genre isn't traditional CHH, it captures the essence - it's more like a fusion of lofi, Afrobeat, and hip-hop. Even his songs about himself are directed towards God, which is beautiful to see! Another awesome CHH artist is Jackie Hill Perry - her new album "Practice" is all about work ethic and God, not flashy or self-centered. It's all about glorifying God and continually preaching His message!
@dareal8n I listen to Sondae. All his albums are on my playlist. I also do this is a good balance 👌 🔥
@ 🔥 glad you listen to him!
I think marizu is pretty good as well I'll check out sondae tho
@@prodratatouille I’m gonna check out Marizu
That's why Sondae is my favorite Christian musician❤️🔥
This is a great observation and commentary, as an artist myself, I always tell myself that "In a world of Junk food, be the salad".
@@R.E.A.MASHAPA that's a really cool quote 👍😁
Great quote🔥🔥🔥💯
@@vinnyhughes007 yeahh! Imma use that
Tip: Read the lyrics first.
If you’re listening to a new song that you think you’ll like, pause it after 15-30 seconds to read the lyrics. If it’s safe, listen to the rest. That way you won’t struggle to let it go, or be tricked into believing you’re missing out on a “good song” that is actually harmful to you. There could be times when you think it’s okay, until you finally hear the Holy Spirit telling you to turn away. Be obedient to that discernment, pray and read the bible if you’re still unsure. Don’t question how God will provide the answer before you’ve tried asking, He’ll surprise you.
Remember: Words matter more.
A good beat to back them up is a plus. People are realizing that the songs / artists they listen to were encouraging spiritual harm or disrespecting God (Matt. 7:15;18-19). So if someone recommends a song to you, even if you trust them, read the lyrics first. Cause at the end of the day it’s YOUR journey alone with God. Songs can have heavy influences (Prov. 18:20-21 | Matt. 12:33;37). We can’t be eager to agree with what our friend group has on repeat if we feel the song is problematic. Desire to lead people toward the true Good News that is Jesus Christ (Acts 5:20) and consider Matt 7:3-5 when you do. Don’t trip alongside them if you’re given the gift to see / hear what they can’t. May you be reminded every day that Lord Jesus paid for your forgiveness in full. Glory to God, stay obedient to His will!
Thanks, much appreciated😭❤
Love this! God bless you. This is what it means to speak the truth in love ❤️
As a Christian Artist myself, I low-key get you but i’d say it’s not more so being boastful but testifying of the goodness of God even in those materialistic things. There is songs where I rap about spiritual things and Jesus how God saved me from a spiritual point of view, but there is also song where i rap about the blessings and struggles of being a Christian in the physical world. But it’s never to exalt myself but to testify to those who think God won’t do that for you and you should sell your souls to become wealthy because with God he just wants you to suffer to be come holy. I remember even as a secular artist that used to be my mindset, And i became a believer before a Christian Rap but discovering the Hulvey’s showed my that the dream God gave me can still be lived out as a Christian.
@imsotumelo I totally understand. Yet again, my point is that too many of these christian rappers focus on blessings and not salvation or redemption. Not everyone is call to the 'worldly success' however Jesus's heart is for all to be saved. That's what I would love to see more of. More of salvation and building up of the faith
@ I feel you, was also saying this the other day on Christian Rap blog post about “What need to changed in CHH” and i said we need more worship in CHH because we most make testimonial music and it can come off self service because it sounds like what God does for you all the time and not repentance and loving him solely for who He is.
I think it’s definitely having a heart to worship the LORD has to start either the individual. The problem is instead of stepping back from the mic to allow the LORD to prune many artists who are in the Christian music industry still put out music anyways which is wrong. Souls over numbers. That shows the selfishness within the person that must be addressed. How can an artist be on lukewarm , a lack of discipleship , still drinking milk though the LORD desires for them to eat meat ,or even worse on their way to hell and still claim Jesus is truly LORD? Not saying every artists is like this. Some really love Jesus ,but a lot of the music is being watered down for views, likes, and comments.
@@JustStheshCHH is at the best it’s been in a while bro and I’ve been listening for more than 10 years. We are so quick to say something is worldly but we have to understand we have the power and ability in what God created. Understand different styles of rap and even the aspect of just making music as art. My point is that most people you mentioned share the gospel and speak on it enough not to say there isn’t some who need to change. It’s better to say that it may be a small problem but not a big one CHH is expanding and we are in a new era we have to accept what’s coming because of the change in music in general. Love the points just don’t thing it’s that relevant when artist shouldn’t be held to the same standard as pastors.
“speaking to one another with psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit. Sing and make music from your heart to the Lord,” Ephesians 5:19 my personal problem as a former secular hip hop/rap listener is idolizing the artist and certain songs to the point of overplaying them, wanting to be like them. Being held captive to the lifestyle. Not good. I had to lay down rap until I got a good grasp in the Word. Newly born Christians can be great artists for the Lord but I’d strongly encourage to not release your songs of praise until it is word proofed. “Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” -Matthew 5:19 We don’t want to least, we want to be GREAT! No one sets out to be least especially for the Lord. We want to be GREAT! A persons heart can be right and loving the Lord but the knowledge and wisdom might not bee seen through their words. Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding. In all your ways, acknowledge Him and He will make your paths straight. Proverbs 3:5-6
AMEN. Thank you for talking about this. We need to have these conversations in order to be the salt of the earth. We need to glorify God ALWAYS.
This is why i like and stick to underground Christian hip hop who don’t want all the worldly secular hype we must stay holy as our Lord is holy.
any recommendations?
@@kelvin4602 listen to Garko
Please put us on brotha
aftrthght, Lazarus!, loreal seeks Christ, OFC
Mike Malagies is underground
Amazing video! This applies to all Christian music. We must be vigilant about what we allow ourselves to listen to. And your last point about discernment is 100% accurate. May God grant us discernment and wisdom as we draw nearer to Him! God bless you.
I’m honestly glad somebody made a video about this because I’ve been saying this for a WHILE now… and ppl called me crazy and didn’t think i was right.
I created the instrumental behind Lecrae’s “DWYL.” This came out when Christian rap was in a dark place. It shifted a lot of our industry, the anointing of God was in that song because it encouraged and changed lives all around the world.
Been listening to CHH for about 2 decades and what I will say is that there is a spectrum that exist that can appeal to different stages in your personal walk but the music is also perspective on where that artist is in their personal relationship with Christ
I agree, I also think that not all music has to be entirely Christ centered and referencing scripture at every step, if an artist wants to express a human experience in the context of his faith, I don't think that's a problem. for example, if you started off in bad situation and God took you out of that with the gift he gave you and you decide to make a sort of victory anthem, while thanking GOD and keeping away from any abhorrent prideful statements, I'd believe that to be a wonderful thing.
As someone who is starting to make CHH. I’ll remember to stay humble and only be boastful when it comes to the Lord.
I pray that you succeed in your career 🙏🏿
@ God bless you.
I've read through the comments and most people seem to be on track. rare stuff.
I've been listening to CHH for a decade plus now and this video is spot on. Another thing i see CHH artist do which shouldn't be encouraged is "always reflecting on their past". what I mean by this is:
1st album - talked about how you were in sin, depression, God saved you.
2nd album - reminded us about you were in sin, your vices, how you were saved,
3rd album - still reminding us of your past life, where you came from to where you are now.
~ do you see the pattern?~
As the voice that you are, you need to recognize that growth is a very important part of your music. you must lead your audience, fans to growth. your listeners should grow from being saved - to be babies - to worship - to a personal relationship with God.
As your career advances you must go deeper, your fellowship with God must become better for you to be the channel for something more with your music. Otherwise you are just a secular artist without cuss words.
You’re really neat for speaking out about this! Keep watching and being discerning of the culture around you whether Christian or secular, you’ll go far :)
Was super refreshing to watch this!
Appreciate your perspective ❤️💯 always need that reminder.
Grateful that this video was recommended to me, I agree with the points you made about the boasting and materialism in CHH! Humility and sincere love for Jesus are things that are hard to fake, but when it's real, it shows up in the lyrics. A lot of these artists are just showing the overflow of their heart from their lips/lyrics.
This is honestly put together so well. I knew I wasn’t the only one who was thinking this 🙌🏼
Preach I’m a Christian hip hop artist and I’m growing with God daily . One thing I can say when I first started making music at 12 and didn’t release it till I was 15 a lot happened to me at that time. Now that time has changed and God has been leading me speaking as a Christian youth God knows his children and who is not a sheep in wolfs clothing. You can’t be a lukewarm Christian. You are either on fire for God or cold. Can I get a amen 🙏
thank u bro. I'm a starting musician who wants to get more into the Christian rap scene but this is a solid warning against pride and glofirying oneself instead of the Lord. God bless
Why I shifted from US CHH to UK CHH. The man them rapping pure gospel 🔥
Recommendations?
@ Konola, TJ Cream, Dandz, Rev J, Still Shadey, Collistar, 678Nath, DC3, Reblah, Zilijah, etc
Yo I love the intention of this video whether or not Christians accept it we all need to be held accountable righteously. With that said a bit of grace should be the basis of the relationship between the artists and the consumer. Christ is work through all of us at different paces. Love what you’re doing though brother as much as we celebrate the growth of CHH we got to remember what our reference calls us to do. Keep it up!
I’m so glad you spoke on this. I’ve been feeling this way for a while
Praying for discernment! YES!
I completely agree with everything you've shared and expressed in this video. We have to separate holy from unholy, and getting too close can be highly dangerous. We have seen what happens if you don't differentiate the two. People become lost, confused, double-minded, or straight-up uninterested in trying to purify the music or activities that they entertain. I'm happy you are still open to christian rap. There are also other genres that are just as good, like christian reggae, lofi, and afrobeat.
Yo, bro. As a Christian rapper myself, I just want to tell you that you do an awesome job with calling out the problems in the Christian hip hop industry. I've heard that many artists actually misuse the Christian music platform to get famous because they failed in the secular music platform. God bless you and stay strong. Victory to Jesus ALWAYS. 😀👍
Brother in Christ, I just shared this video with my community group! Keep making videos as the Lord leads you 💯 The gentle but firm warning was needed and I see you are stewarding the gifts that he has placed in you.
Praise God
@josiahfranklin1220 thank you for that brother 🙏 🤲
Come on brother 🔥 some ain’t gone like this but the word of God backs you up 🫡
I do Christian Rap too and sometimes listening to someone who talks about his journey with God in a Song edifies yourself too, because we as Christians share the same struggles and blessings. But listening to a Christian Song about blessings would be wrong if you are in a sad state in your faith, so it depends where you at and the perfect Bible verse about this topic is this:
James 5:13-15
13 Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms. 14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: 15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
Justifying
There's so much wisdom in this video. Thanks for being obedient to the Lord by sharing this, because for sometime now i have felt some conviction that i wasn't so sure of as i listened to some Christian songs. This is definitely the Lord speaking through you. Thanks bro 💜
Thank you for giving us this alert I noticed it as well and this is just a wake up call! ❤
Ngl I appreciate you bringing this to light 🙏
as saved ex rapper and current preacher I completely agree with you and personally. The reason I did not transition to Christian rap is because it did not come out as natural as secular rap came out. Another reason is that I was not able to separate myself from rap culture as a whole when listening to Christian rap, I just had something connecting me to secular part, but it is completely possible to make Christian rap work
Many secular artists do include Christian aspects in their songs, we can clearly see they're lifestyle they portray online which plant certain seeds in new believers. we can guess that these artists truly are fighting a battle and we can just pray for them but as a Christian rapper you are portraying to be of the lord and have an strong influence on those of the lord therefore you have to be sensitive with what you plant in their minds, you do not want to deprive your brother or sister who lack knowledge as this could lead to sin. Let us not be of this world but be renewed by the spirit.
(You're hearing this from someone who refused to sell he's soul for worldly pleasures.) God Bless you all :)
This is great bro. Without actually releasing anything I’ve been making Christian rap for a while. And I keep having to observe it because there was always something I didn’t think was glorifying to god, it’s almost like habit to talk about worldly things and it’s something I’ve noticed and want to change.
With that being said, you pointed out something I needed to hear, because I didn’t even realize some of my inspirations in Christian hip hop were doing these things, so I appreciate this video, and I do look forward to anything you do in the future.
God bless bro
@RJ_2002 I'm glad that this video helped you confirm some things in the christian rap industry. I hope that you make the music that glorifies Jesus and Jesus alone . I can't wait to hear the change you will bring❤️🙏🔥
You made ALOT of good points! I gave wordly music a permanent break but when i tried to return to my specific Christian rap playlist, I wasn’t feeling it at all. Especially the ones with the drill beats. I love those beats but they drag my memory back to my sinful past 😢
I noticed this recently listening to one of the rappers you mentioned. I think people are blinded by the fact something is christian labeled, that it must be good or "at least they're not rapping about xyz" but theres a way to do things. If believers dont speak out about it from a pure place and a place of love (if led to) then we'd be doing new believers a disservice by not exposing light on something that can allow Christ to convict them or the artist themselves or as a warning to those who want to get into that form of artistry. Thank you for your commentary and your editing is very good and the intro intrigued me to keep watching.
@Zareastuckey thank you very much for the support and im glad you found this valuable 🔥❤️
I completely understand where you are coming from and thank you for your humility in sharing your 2 cents dawg.
Though I believe it's important to remember first of all that CHH is music i.e. art. It's not a sermon. These artists are not pastors nor preachers when they enter the booth. People will express themselves in their most authentic manner while still staying faithful to God wherever they are in their faith journey. I think we need to give our brothers and sisters the space and the grace to do that. Not every Christian rapper sees their music as ministry and some do. And that's okay because there's nowhere in the bible where it explicitly says one's artistic expression must save souls. The artists that do however, those are the ines we can share with new believers provided the doctrine is sound. As for the others--seeing these guys as regular people who just happened to be Christians, that make music, will free us of alot of scrutinizing and energy being wasted on people who we don't even know personally, instead of focusing on our own problems in our own lives.
As for the gun metaphors, we see quite a number of warfare metaphors used in scripture in a positive way, so I think these guys are in the clear.
I just felt the need to leave my own 2 cents here because im really passionate about CHH. Not all CHH is the same and that's fine. As long as each artist is being faithful to God and their conscience. God bless mfowethu✊🏽
THANK YOU. This is what I was saying!!! Although i will add that looking to rappers to provide the main thing to build your faith is just not wise. Rappers are not your Pastors. Music is a supplement not your sustenance.
@KarlNova amen brother 🤝🏽🤝🏽
The whole entire point of making christian music should be to save souls. No debate about it
Well said brother
@@prayforcere I disagree fellow child of God, "whole entire point"? You'd need to back your claims up.
Shameless plug I'm an artist too. I just talk about my struggles in the world and God's power helping me through my struggles
What is wrong with you
@all the same things that are wrong with you my friend
Very good video. Agree with all your points.
Appreciate God putting this in my recommendations.
May God help my discernment every day.
I wholeheartedly agree I’ve been struggling with some Christian rappers music some of it is great but a lot of had me wondering “ How does this really glorify God”
I’ve struggled with this same topic for years now. Grew up on CHH, my pops only played CHH.. artists like Timothy brindle, beautiful eulogy, ambassador, DA Truth, old school lecrae. The music was much different back then in the early 00s, I’m a 02’ baby so once my pops got saved this was all he played. Thanks for pointing this out bro, I really appreciate you for taking time to do research and put together this video.
@@lesterthecollector I'm glad it helped you
Thank you, we need more people talking about this!! I've been listening to Christian rap for a few years now and a few months ago my eyes were opened to how a lot of "Christian" rappers lyrics aren't even glorifying Jesus anymore. Just because it's labelled 'Christian' doesn't mean it is.
I started listening to Christian rap in 2023 and WHATUPRG was the first. Bro, I noticed the secular vibe that RG has even in the song God Made a way. I think that these Christian rappers need God. No cap I still listen to WHATUPRG, his songs are dope, I think these artists should change their way of Christian rap, but keep on praying for them. God bless u brother. ❤
Yes, it always made me think about if they even go to church or have a church?
Yessssss, there's a song of Whaturpg that says, "my shorty is thick" 💀💀💀💀
First of all, to put Christian and rap together in the first place has been a blessing for me. Separating it from secular music on my walk with God. The Lord opened me up to a whole new world of music that’s ultimately glorifying his name no matter how it may come off to some. At the end of the day, none of these artists are cursing and glorifying violence or negative topics of the enemy. These rappers/artists aren’t pastors so we shouldn’t be judging or expecting the same mission from them. Focus on the good from this genre, we got the first Christian hip-hop set at Rolling Loud Miami. History in the making! 🙏🏾
I second your sentiment. As I mentioned in my comment above, the scriptures is full of various themes such as worship, war, love, intimacy, lament, history and not just the death and resurrection of Christ. CHH is better than ever before because of its diversity in its subject matter. Its not perfect, because you will have imperfect people make mistakes in their presentation, but thats the beauty of art! We grow, and we learn and through that we get more creative works of art. Every artists, as long as they arnt directly breaking commands in the scripture, have the freedom to navigate their creativity (Rom 14).
So much wisdom in this video!! hope your voice reaches many listeners!
@@Callmedeeee Thank you very much. I just hope you also found great value 🙏 💯
I’ve been on a similar journey, I think as you grow by God’s grace your appetite for God’s word grows as well and tbh it’s not very prevalent in most of the Christian rappers songs. Even in their videos too, as you said, except two that I’ve found exceptional, (Holy Spirit by Hulvey and No longer bound by Forrest Frank are really amazing cause they’re focused on God’s power through people’s testimonies/baptisms). It’s a really important point to note what you have in this conversation, thanks for sharing :)
Kieran the light is a great one! I recommend
i agree with you. i'm not that much into christian rap anymore, but something didn't sat right with my soul with certain artist. as what you said is that many of them tell how good their life is because of God (what i understand since it is a testimony and we also need to praise the Lord) but it is in almost every song they make and then they are also prideful of it.
someone in the comments said that sondae makes amazing music. and i agree! i would also love to add madison ryann ward and darla baltazar. she makes lofi-RnB gosoel song (sometimes she makes songs out of hymns or out of certain scripture)
Been listening to Christian Rap since mid 2000s, I’ll say brother that this has been going on for longer than 4 years for sure. There was a time where you spoke up about it you were labeled as being “too Pharisee”. I’m glad to see we are ima time where men like yourself are speaking about it lovely and with wisdom. Unfortunately person who brought Christian rap to many ears was lecrae. He had many songs deep in doctrine about God, but now is the person who also started the bringing of the culture in the Christian Rap as well. I pray God gives us discernment and that we seek him first and his word so we know what we should listen too
this is why Sondae is #1
Thank you for speaking about this brother 💯💯✝️
Hey I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately! Thanks for speaking out on this matter! Pray for these artists!
@@Worthsavingministry most definitely will do🙏
I definitely agree with everything you just said thank you for speaking the truth ! Definitely needed to be spoken about God bless ❤
Amen 🙏🏿 Thanks you for the reminder, God bless you !
thank you for your opinion. it is actually really helpful and refreshing to hear others perspectives.
you are so right bro,God bless you
@michaeljoshua783 Thank you🙏and I hope the video did bless you
Amen. Thank you for a wonderful video
@@anthy.o glad you liked it
I guess part of the equation is how you see the music, Is it a Ministry vs An Occupation/Job,
Obviously we do all things to glorify Christ but you get what I mean.
And I would agree that boastfulness has become more of an issue.
But something to keep in mind is that a lot of these artists come from different backgrounds
and what's normal to them and the lens they see the world can be quite different to what you
or me might see things as, what I've found helpful is to give the artist/person the benefit of
the doubt If I don't fully understand what there saying but obviously if they're compromising
e.g Spreading false teaching etc then staying away is the way to go.
But for personal listening always go with your conscious, if you don't feel
uplifted or that they aren't glorifying God then listen to something else that you
feel comfortable with.
@DavidLivick thank you for that feedback, bro. I appreciate it. 🙏I did state in the video that this wasn't to bash at anyone but to bring an awareness to christian music. We all are a large family and things will be different from time to time but we should help one another when we falling away . And to me the christian rap industry seems like it's falling. I also talked about how they are some who actually rap the gospel.🔥
I understand what you mean by "Make Christ the soul focus" and I agree Caleb Gordan Psalm 91 is great. But for new Christians it may not be the best. Because you can just feed a baby a steak. You have to let it have something it's used to then we can turn off secular aspects. (LOVE YOUR VIDS JUST WANTED TO SHARE❤(
J Monty "I don't care if I'm the TOP PIC as long as my God is the TOPIC"
Someone needs to preach to these rappers. They need to realize the influence they have in general. If they aren't doing it in truth they'll lead people away from Christ
Thank you for doing this brother!!
I like saying things that i notice and be like or is it just me, but now that you have also seen it and speaking up against it... I'm glad. GOD bless you. ❤🤍🙌
@@LeboCharity you most welcome 🙏
This is a great perspective and I've definitely had these same thoughts here and there. I've been consuming CHH for about a year and a half now and fully remove secular music. Like you said, discernment is important and we definitely have to keep our focus on Christ
I listen to KOU!!!, Lil Capo, Secret!, Garko, Tylan1k & Vennisay. These artists are lazer focused on saving souls. They are the new breed that God is raising up, not for CHH, but for Christians. 🔥🔥🔥
I listen to SECRET! A lot. He’s a Gospel drill rapper from the Bronx. I have 1 song from KOU l listen to a lot. It’s called “Big Blues” by KOU. If you’re into Gospel Drill,
Check out Konola, to me is the best Gospel Drill Artist from the UK.
His album LIGHT SWITCH is CRAZY 🔥🔥🔥
His other album PURPLE PURPOSE is more R&B vibes. Shows he really has range as an artist.
SECRET! Has an album called “CHRISTIANS CAN’T DO WHAT”, that’s really cold to me
@lawrencebello97 I listen to KOU!!! A lot. I think 85% of 2024 I've just been listening to KOU. He dropped a big album last year called 'I Just Wanted To Be Something...'. This year, he has an upcoming album called 'KOUSKI' dropping Jan 20th. The guy is just too fire, an the things he speaks about motivates me to plant gospel seeds in my community.
As for Secret! I like his new album 'Holy Hits 3: Before The Finale'. I think the new drill album 'CCD2' was too fire to listen to. Almost every song was upbeat, there was hardly time to rest, but I guess that's what you should expect from a 'Christians Can't Do What' album. I really like 'Holy Hits 3' though, it's a bit more comfortable for me to listen to.
@@lorenzoB97what do you mean by gospel drill? sounds like mixing good and evil together in my opinion
Facts bro. Glad someone has said something about that. Because these days the visuals of Christians music videos is really suspect, if you mute the volume you would think it's secular
Thanks for sharing this.
Never thought of that, thanks
I like kb and I think he sends a good message. I haven’t seen much of that in his videos because I don’t think he would like that lol. I got his book for Christmas and it’s pretty good!
I been listening to Christian rap since I got saved.. T Bone is the one that made me love it this was wayyyyyy back in the early thousands (yes I’m old) then lecrae came in with “Jesus Muzik” that song right there change the landscape.. it was different and it didn’t sound like the world .. but over time it began to mix with the world and the holiness left.. (holy means to be separate) Christian rap is a vibe but it’s lost it’s holiness
Thank you for speaking the Truth my brother, we all need to be alert and sober minded 🙏
Thanks for watching 🙏🔥
I love the approach to this as you are based on the depth.
Being an Chh artist is something to be proud of as you are a kingdom’s servant a tool used through music to bring souls.
So you should reflect Christ.
And it’s not easy to do it on an uptempo hip hop beat so I get it but if you are willing to be a Chh artist you should be taking your time and be willing to make a really good end product to be profound and touch as many souls as possible.
The problem is the industry is facing to an era where the ppl are being vague abt making music fr, sorry but CHH is not the same of mid 2000s and 2010s
Well said brother. I’ve made Christian rap myself in times past and I made those similar mistakes as well. But the Lord showed me what I was doing and I repented of that movement to really make music that truly glorifies him and not the world. My stance now is Christian rap isn’t sinful. But compromise can be easy when you add worldly influences to the song that’s supposed to be used for ministry/evangelism purposes. Even down to the appearance and the sound of the track, it should match his characteristics and it should be rooted in love. Can’t mix the gospel message and words of adoration unto God with a sound that is influenced by the world, the works of the flesh, or made with the purpose to usher in unclean spirits to the hearer and not the Holy Spirit. We can’t minister grace to the hearer with Christian rap by sounding worldly and appearing to be worldly for the sake of having a draw. It’s the Lord’s draw and not ours. So it’s our responsibility to represent him rightly and not mix his holiness and righteousness with the patterns of the world in song form.
May all the praise be to God for putting this on your heart and sending your message to those who needed to hear it. May Jesus continue to intercede for the strengthening of your faith and may your ministry be fruitful, in Jesus' name, Amen.
@lelosithole Thank you for that prayer 🙏 🤲 ♥️
Ayy ,im so proud of you Big Broo ,all Love from SA Kempton Park❤
@@ntandoshamase5367 thank you 🫡
Amen bro great content well said!
I ageee, but to be fair the secularism and “my life success means my relationship with God must be great”, is a trend amongst mainstream Christian churches/ preaching as well. I would argue that the root cause of CHH being the way it is is mainstream Christianity. The Mike Todd’s of the world has pushed this secular/ success message to the masses. But yeah great video though that covers a proximate issue. My point is mainstream CHH music is pushing the message of “the church”, and until that message changes… CHH won’t change.
This is also why we see this trend amongst gospel artists as well tbh.
I think the "gun" metaphor is supposed to be a modern representation of when the bible would say "sword of the spirit" metaphor. I don't think I entirely agree with you on that one since swords were always used for violence in the past and today, so making the excuse that we shouldn't say guns just cause its been killing people kinda says the same about swords too, since those have been killing people wayyy before guns became existent, yet the bible still uses those metaphors. I think still as a christian artist it is ok to be a little bit less soft in my music, but still there has to be a balance between being soft and being rough because there we're times where Jesus was not soft toward people, but he balanced being gentle toward people too. Anyways those are just my. thoughts, if I'm wrong, correct me, I will do my own research into any responses into this to make sure. But thanks! Very insightful video
Thanks broski, discernment is key 🔑
Isaiah Robin and Kieran the light 🔥speak BITTER truth. In other words they tell you the Truth.
I love the video by the way 🔥
People need to hear the gospel in whatever way helps them the most
As a Christian artist, I think people suffering from legalism will never fully appreictae REAL CHRISTIAN ARTIST who are well rounded individuals because it doesnt always fit in a "Church" box. Christian artist are still real people. We love the LORD, we worship God, we give him praise and we still go through things. We still have character flaws that need work, we still have things we struggle with and we are STILL talking about the Gospel, God & the way we are to live in this world in the fullness of what being a Christian is and means. Most people cannot appreciate that until they get off of their self-righteous soapbox & allow God to reveal to them the depths of our messages, which are Holy Spirit filled.
Exactly. It's actually crazy to criticise Christian artists because their videos have cars, money and have drip. This feels like criticising the book of Esther or Solomon because you can't see Christ in it as much as Matthew. Crazy work.
Let me give you some advice. I know it is unsolicited. NEVER look to music as the main thing that feeds your faith. That is as insane as looking to snacks for your main physical nourishment and not properly cooked meals with all the nutrients you need.
The main thing that feeds your faith should NEVER BE music even if it is preaching at you solid theology. I wish every person of faith understood this.
What feeds your faith is grace through prayer, study and community with solid loving believers and you having loving elders who are solid over you NOT looking to music FIRST.
Also Paul used metaphors like the sword of the Spirit and in his day they were the equivalent of guns that killed people so…
Anyway stop looking to music as the main thing for the nourishment of your faith.
@KarlNova music is influential whether we know it or don't. So what u listen to and what u watch is powerful. I didn't say u only feed your faith through music alone. Otherwise, thank you for your feedback, brother🔥🙏
@@JustSthesh yes music is influential but should it be more influential than prayer, studying your bible, being in fellowship with other believers and having solid elders over you? Is it more influential than all those things in your life? If it is, you have made music an idol.
This is the problem, people place too much importance on music and give it too much power and influence over them. No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to make music such a big thing in your life.
But hey, I am just giving my two cents. I know what I am talking about, you don’t know who i am or what I’ve seen. Peace out!
@KarlNova I agree. Thus, in the video, I said 'new believers' will take it the wrong way, seeing a Christian rapper 'flexing' . So it's better to preach the gospel through your songs to help those who are starting out
@@JustSthesh i don’t think you’re hearing me and it’s cool. With time what I am saying will make more sense.
All rappers are not the same and all music isn’t for everyone. Everyone isn’t going to do music the way you think they should. Anyway music isn’t the main thing and everyone of faith needs to truly know this in their hearts.
New believers need to know from the start that they’re not following rappers even if those rappers are preaching the bible all in their raps, they are following Christ and need to understand that’s what they signed up for.
I’ll say no more (i am not a Christian rapper by the way)
@@KarlNova He doesnt agree fully. I think you feel conviction to be frank
This is a amazing video especially for Christians changing there music taste and with the rise in Christian rappers it's hard to discern at times. Thanks for this video you got yourself a new subscriber ❤
Love this, Great Video God Bless You Brother in Christ🙏📍💯
I really like your vid it brought some insight to my listening habits because some of the Christian rappers I listen to
When i first was born again i was listening to lecrae and bunch of other rappers. When God started giving me wisdom and I became more filled with his word, I started to notice his songs become more worldly and more about him boasting in luxury rather than being meek and humble in spirit. At that point I couldn’t take it and cut rap off completely. I started listening to traditional hymns and yeah they may not be as hype and “boring” but they really display God’s true love and mercy for us.
This is it brother
I totally agree with this. I grew up listening to Christian rap and I think it's pretty good, but some of the songs I think "How does this song have god in it" and most of them don't have God. Most of the rappers talk about themselves but says "God helped me" but that's still boasting
Hear this heavy my next project and further purifying my music this will be deeply thought about and taken in I’ve been thinking this aswell even in my last project Dead To The World which was still a project of my purging my own flesh stay blessed king
You said it all bro 😪🖤
Y'all need to look up Brian Trejo and Kingdom music the rap is only about the gospel.
@@doeboy970 ill look him up
Fire artists
Most definitely, that man is anointed. I met him, Antoine and Brandon a little over a year ago, they’re humble and nice guys.
Wow i feel this way too. Im glad it wasnt just me
@@islandgirl024 let the message spread with love and good intentions 🙏
powerful video brother there was a time i was deep into CHH but i see tthese artist become more worldly on a daily n as they become more accepted by the world they r losing the uniqueness of the music n i dont think every worldly song should be remixed by a christian cause i dont eve listen to secular music at all. n when ur a baby believer it cool but as a mature believer u long for something deeper with more substance n scripture bout YAH. this is y nowadays i listen to this artist called Darak ibar, look him up his music is very deep and good and very scriptural its amazing brother u woont regret it.
@Annoitedpastorlewiswalkin thank you brother for that🙏🔥and thank u for the recommendation
@ no problem brother hope u like it
This is happening even in the secular world, everyone is the same shit and do the same things as others
Another issue that we might be seeing in both Christian and secular rap is that there’s bound to be a lack of humility and honesty on some people’s parts. We also see that it’s rare to hear songs about struggles and real personal conflicts just after making songs about how successful the artists are for most of their careers. The best possible example I can give is with Dax, an artist I’ve listened to for months now. Years ago, he made songs about his successes but he made a few mistakes and has gotten the ire of a lot of people. It was only until he released “Dear Alcohol” when his career had gotten a much needed jumpstart and his new audience had pushed the song to be his most popular one yet. The reason why it was so was because “Dear Alcohol” was different; it was a song about real struggle and a lot of people related to it. Little to nobody can relate to someone getting a million dollar mansion or super car or the company of the sexually promiscuous. If I were to release a rap song or anything of the sort, I’d wanna be real to others and to myself. I’d want to let people know, “I’m not the best nor will I ever be. I just wanna put my honest thoughts out there.”
Yes yes yessss to everything you said!! I’m so glad you talked about this. I’ve been wanting to speak on it too, but you articulated this SO well and respectfully!!
As Christians, we gotta be careful with the beats some of these artists use too. I used to really like Childlike CiCi, but after a while, I realized the aggression in her voice and the beats she’s on started making me do hand motions and dances that I would do and feel ways I would feel when I listened to secular music. She was often saying the “right” things in her music but I didn’t like the way I felt, you know.
You’re right too about the gun metaphors 😭 esp when they talk about killing demons. It’s like, I get it.. but come on. Hahaha
This was such a great conversation. Thanks for this video!
4:46: I personally don't think they're trying to boast about themselves but about what God has done so people come to God. Also when they "boast" they mostly give the steps like how you have to do things in God's realm to achieve great things. So don't look at it as boasting look at it as a testimony (LOVE YOUR VIDS JUST WANTED TO SHARE❤)
I agree my brother in Christ. I hate the boasting in Christian rap and material flexing. I used to not notice it but as I’ve grown in Christ I notice it more.
Honorable mention is
Eugy Official
Kijan Boone
MTM ISAIAH
They stay on the ROCK which is Christ ✝️❤️🔥🙏
@@SonSetFreeIndeed brother thank you for the recommendations 🙏 🙌
MTM Isaiah and KIJAN Boone are the Truth fr. I have their music on repeat
@ 💯 anyone other Holy Spirit filled recommendations?
Bryann T, KB, Bold Faith, P.I.D., and Emmanuel Tarsus seem to be solid in their messages and videos.
@@glennii9442 Thank you brother God bless you 🙏
What a well contructed video, wish you the best on future videos man, you earned a sub!
@tyreseajayi1395 thank you 🫡
@@JustSthesh I wanna recommend: I need help by Connor price and Maverick City!! Such a Christian rap song, has flow, bars, and it portrays the word of God!
I listen to Sondae and Forrest Frank. They are both great and fabulous artist
Smart dude speaking truth. Respect.
theres this one rapper named "yvngxzaye" hes a perfect balance of new modern not corny christian music that is christ centered and not self focussed and testimonial based.
@@islandgirl024 ill check him out. And thanks for the recommendation 😊
His song “ WAKE UP” is cold . I love the New York sound
Issac Mansfield is a good christian rapper that makes music.
Go check miles minnick diss NOT ONE.. AND MY NEW SONG OWE HIM.. 🔥 ALL FOR HIS GLORY
You can actually hear the praise in hulvey and Caleb's songs, hulvey is more exhortation amd Caleb's songs are more of proverbs or ecclesiastical, Alex Jdan songs are pure praise and even one of them speaks about submission to God . They don't exactly use "worldly" language, you're point is valid but like you said they're trying to draw people in but there is a certain wisdom to it, they're using it in line with what the bible says like direct metaphors, nobigdyl, Andy Mineo and Lecrae do this very well. They also give advice and warning in their songs as well, like how to love as a Christian or how to stand out, the videos might need some upgrades in certain areas but it's not really for us to criticize at the end of the day, they're all put under someone by God and whoever that person is will correct them if necessary.
I've been listening to Christian rap for a while like it wasy first ontroduction to hip hop. So i get most of the questions that you have and I've come to understand that there is a place and a need for such music in The Kingdom.
This makes sense, thanks for sharing! It’s important for people to still have to be mindful and use discernment though. Especially when you want to continue to grow as a Christian. I agree w what this guy is saying. There are some great songs, but not every song fully evokes Christianity. Esp some of the artists you mentioned. Nobigdyl is pretty prideful and sometimes judgmental and arrogant. Lecrae even has a song with Ty Dolla sign in which Ty does say a few worldly things. I think it should be more about Jesus and the Bible versus being in line with the Bible, if it’s really all about God.