How the SAS used Stinger missiles to divert Argentina in the Falklands
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- In 1982, SAS troops were the first to fire a Stinger missile in combat.
They had been drafted in to distract Argentinian forces from the San Carlos landings, carried out by British soldiers in response to Argentina's invasion of the islands in April 1982.
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As an argentine military historian specialized in the Malvinas / Falklands War, I very much respect Lt. Gen. Mike Rose. I regard him along with Brig. Julian Thompson as likely the most effective british land senior officers in the conflict. He had a particular outstanding perfomance not only in the field, but also during the peace negotiation. What an interesting postwar story and indeed the world is a small place...
Great video, Congrats !
I don't think Julian Thompson or Mike Clapp, the guys who really did the work, would say the same of Mike Rose....
The SAS did not have an outstanding time in the Falklands, they almost completely ruined the retaking of South Georgia as a result of their arrogance, only being saved by the courage and resourcefulness of RN helicopter crews. The most useful SF task undertaken in the Falklands was the covert observation posts....a job mainly completed by the SBS...
And they spent a large portion of the war using their direct contact via satellite telephone with London to go around normal comms channels to get messages direct to Mrs Thatcher with harebrained schemes that consumed staff time before being discounted. This caused huge amounts of problems for the real professionals who were actually retaking the islands...Julian Thompson, Mike Clapp and Sandy Woodward, they commented on occasions on this....and they were being very diplomatic...
@@dogsnads5634 I insist with Lt Gen Rose´s great perfomance and must recall that all the brit Special Forces in Malvinas including the SBS and Mountain and artic warfare Cadre, were directly or inderectly under his command. You also mention Brig Julian Thompson as I did. Concerning commodore Clapp and admiral Woodward I said "british land senior officers". Despite both were competent, -and Clapp organized a successful landing in San Carlos-, neither Woodward nor Clapp were land officers. Regards
@@rodrigoquiroga8590 have you read Ghost Force by Ken Connor? He was the other person involved in the Stinger collection, and wrote quite an insightful chapter on the subject
@@rodrigoquiroga8590 *Falklands Islands
@@tomwithey711 In my first comment, precisely for respect to those fallen on the field on both sides, I didn´t put just Malvinas, I said Malvinas/Falklands.... Therefore your clarification is usless.
What a Guy. Now there is a Man who has been there, seen it and done it.
this channel deleted 5 links to israeli news explaining israel supplied Argentina with Exocet missiles to kill British servicemen
Soldiers can shake hands - or hug - and move on, but it's the politicians who keep the pot boiling.
Politians do nothing but debate what should be happening. They are all a waste of breath
Let’s not forget that since WWII soldiers have gone to war for politicians, not for country.
aye. politicians are like hemorrhoids, when around, all they do is irritate and bleed.
Amazing that he was able to tell that Argentine pilot that he was the first to be shot down by a stinger missile.
this channel deleted 5 links to israeli news explaining israel supplied Argentina with Exocet missiles to kill British servicemen
Lehman: British Would Have Lost Falklands War Without U.S. Support
May 29, 1988
LONDON (AP) _ Britain would not have recaptured the Falkland Islands from Argentina in 1982 without U.S. military assistance, former U.S. Navy Secretary John Lehman was quoted Sunday as saying.
In a British Broadcasting Corp. television interview to be broadcast Wednesday night, Lehman also says U.S. involvement in the Falklands war led indirectly to the Irangate scandal, the Observer newspaper reported.
The weekly said Lehman’s interview will be included in the latest episode of ″An Ocean Apart,″ a BBC documentary series on British-American relations.
″Britain would have had to have withdraw from the Falklands″ if the Reagan administration withheld support, it quoted Lehman as saying.
U.S. military aid in the 74-day war, in which Britain recaptured the South Atlantic archipelago from invading Argentine forces, has been a closely guarded secret, the Observer said.
″Lehman is the first senior U.S. official to claim that the Pentagon’s supplies of intelligence and material were so great as to have been decisive,″ it said.
The newspaper quoted unidentified Pentagon sources as saying U.S. supplies during the war included 200 Sidewinder anti-aircraft missiles, eight Stinger anti-aircraft systems, Harpoon anti-ship missiles, mortar shells, satellite intelligence, communications facilities and use of a U.S. air base on Ascension Island.
What a fantastic anecdote from General Sir Rose, well articulated and I always love hearing those little details you can only get from the horse's mouth like 2 Para being particularly concerned watching the attack plane line up as D Squadron had a large number of ex-Paras in it. He has definitely seen a lot, CO of 22 SAS and later on Director Special Forces... can only imagine the sort of operations he has overseen, this man deserves respect 100%
He's got some bits wrong though...
Stinger shot down another aircraft, a Puma helicopter, over Mount Kent later on...I suspect the changes made by Raytheon were fairly minor and only affected particular engagements.
@@dogsnads5634 standard procedure in combat as no matter how much you plan before hand there will always be mistakes made that’s just the unpredictability of war my friend..He’s only human like the rest of us but to focus on the bad points is a tad disrespectful to the men who fought..
@@Roscoe.P.Coldchain I think the old adage of "All plans go out of the window as soon as the first round is fired" applies.
A true British gentleman, one of a dying breed, much respect to to you.
A gentleman maybe but with the stealth and highly and deliberately unorthodox skills of a safebreaker, poacher...you name it for underhand crafts hehe
So understated
Thank you for your service sir, and a big shout out to all our armed forces and veterans 🇬🇧
Says the anonymous coward!
@@MichaelKingsfordGray ok troll 😂
Imagine being in battle and having to read the handbook on how to use the Stinger , probably went something like - ' Congratulations of choosing the Raytheon Stinger missile system. Please read the instructions carefully and it should give you years of trouble-free aircraft downing. '
Absolutely heart warming to hear former adversaries of war showing such respect for each other. General Rose was always considered by me to be one "bad-ass" (as the Americans would say).
This is a thing that will probably never happen between Ukrainian soldiers and Russian orcs.
@@raimobrunning3657 I think unless they are elite units the soldiers on each side have a lot in common. I believe the Russian soldiers were lied to about being on an exercise at the start of the war. As the war progressed they can't do much as they could be shot for desertion. I've heard that the Russian Paratroopers were told that they were fighting NATO forces and were surprised when it turned out to only be Ukrainians.
Don't dispair these types are still around we aren't done yet.they're just resting.
I always read that the other stingers the SAS trooper tried to fire, failed because the hand unit needed recharging after each launch, which the guys didn't know. Never heard the story about broken parts
A lovely watch.
Great to see General Sir Micheal Rose, hail and hearty. An inspirational character whose leadership influenced many key events of the late 20th Century. A true warrior.
Now that doesn't happen every day. An adventurous person has memories that others can't imagine. The guy who fired that missile had spent years of grueling training to earn the memory of doing that. Like tears in rain...
Fascinating story
A superb story, given by a superb man.
Amazing story and 30 years later both on same side in UN
~13 in the case of Balkan conflict.
Nice to see Mike Rose is still with us.
we in the UK are so lucky to have such amazing armed forces 👏👏👏
Amazing interview
Amazing Videos 🔛
Great story!
It’s a small world indeed! 🙏🏿🙏🏿
Long past 'hanging up one's uniform,' these people are still 'warriors.'
'Who dares wins"
Lovely story.
Ive been/served in the flaklands but after the conflict as a follow-up protection for the islanders ⚔️🇬🇧💯
I love the respect and camaraderie between opposing forces years later! I was an 11 year old kid when this war happened and followed the news closely. I joined the RAN in ‘88. We learned many lessons from the RN experiences.
You lie about your name!
I do NOT believe a word of it.
@@MichaelKingsfordGray believe what you like my friend, it is of no consequence to me.
Fascinating story!
Life gives us 'small world' incidents to make us think, hopefully triggering thoughts outside the box!
Fantatsic annecdotes … makes one realise the foolishness of war… that servicemen across the sides are engaging in something that is not really their fight and it’s good that real goodness of humanity can survive the wickedness of the battles.
It was nice as I shared the same aircraft as sir Michael recently as I flew down to the Falklands on a job I was doing
Great story👌
Fascinating 👍❤️🇬🇧
Gotta love the SAS
For being terrorists yeah I no
I could listen to Rose talk all day. Such an interesting guy.
Didn't the first missile flop onto the heather? Then they re-read the pamphlet and fired again.
I was on a course and one of the other guys was an RAF Regiment 'missile gunner'. He explained how he had trained on the Rapier system, using simulators, dummies and so on, but had never fired a real one until the Falklands.
He aimed and fired at an Argentinian A4, the missile came off the launcher, and fell on the ground in front of his position. He was not a happy bunny about that. The main thing that upset him was that he was not allowed to bring it home as a souvenir.
Shooting down a plane without having completed 30 hours of training and passed a weapon handling test? Well done that man, but you'd be on a charge these days. LOL
Well naturally, firing a weapon without adequate training is very dangerous
@@pepperroni6252 History is littered with men making things successfully go bang without proper training, and after the event, they often are given medals for it. Part of SAS training always, right from the start, included picking up any weapon, working out how to load it and which part will fire it. If you have just killed an enemy with the last bullet in your standard issue weapon, and his mates are not best pleased with you, being able to pick up whatever that man was carrying, and using it, might just allow you to live long enough to tell the story to your grandchildren.
@@harryfaber not disagreeing that it's handy to be able to do that but accidents can still happen and are more common if you're not familiar with the weapon system
We probability have thousands of stinger missiles and variants now.
It wasn't the first, the Soviet Igla had shot down civilian aircraft in 1970's
@@heybabycometobutthead The USA had the Red Eye missile in the early 1960s.
What a dubious honour being the first pilot shot down by a stinger missile. I suppose that means that the guy who shot him down becomes the first to shoot down an aircraft with a stinger missile. A slightly less dubious honour I think🙂
And handed Blair his arse while apposing the gulf war. Hero
That it is sir meaning how it's a small world.
The world is baffled how a small nation packs a heavy punch
Wars are the manifestation of the egos of monarchs, politicians, religious leaders and authoritarian dictators. Those who actually fight wars on behalf of these narcissistic sycophants are in the main brave, decent and humane people.
War serves absolutely no viable purpose for humanity.
Are stingers effective against dinghies?
Lets give it a go
I love too the flexibility of The Regiment ( as 22 SAS is known to insiders ) .....blagging stuff and nicking stuff .....they are NOT the green army haha....example of adapting without any rigidity is in the 1970s over the water ( aka Northern Ireland ) when the Regiment started to get jealous of The Det ( aka 14 Int Coy ) and started to assign a number of 22 SAS troopers every year to learn the Det`s lockbreaking, IR photography and probably foot and car surveillance tradecraft ...
I have one word. Battery.
en la 2 WW, si NO hubiese sido por estados unidos...los alemanes lo pasaban por arriba..
Oh sorry about that LOL
It's a funny ol' game. War.
👍🏻
Argentina is melting down but does have money to send fighter jets to Ukraine? Mind boggling!
US spends millions developing kit, us Brits borrow it from a mate😁
Priceless!!
What a great story 🤔😳😂👍🏻
How many Gurkhas u sent pls let us know
I don’t think any were sent there to fight in 1982 but there are some stationed there now as part of the defence force
@@kieranhughes4535 the brits sent them and also told the Gurkhas that their ration was in the Argentine side, so go get it....
It's the only thing 22SAS done right in Corporate !
What are you talking about
Obviously you are a fireside fusilier with little knowledge of the subject matter.
hopefully in 30 years we will be able to talk in the same way with a Russian commander and shake hands.
That’s if he’s not busy stealing your washing machine.
Absolute diahorreah
The last time Great Britain were great. Not just a brilliant victory, but an impossible one. Since then slow rot.
Se llaman islas malvinas
Does Raytheon still send out products it hasn't tested? Surely each batch is subject to test fires in combat conditions? Man; I'm surprised they weren't drummed out of business.
I know he's speaking english but might as well be gaelic because even turning on the closed caption, the caption still gets it wrong. Funniest thing, the same folks who laugh at non native speakers english can't even speak it themselves
Sounds perfectly clear and articulate to me.
@@MeTube3 sure I bet he does
@@Goodnightandgoodluck-c7m maybe consider getting a doctor to check your hearing.
@@MeTube3 yeah maybe it's due to your wife, girlfriend, sisters and female cousins groaning, moaning and yelling in my ears
@@Goodnightandgoodluck-c7m agh, I see you are of extremely limited intelligence. Well I guess that was an easy win for me then.
Raytheon were instructed by the US to supply faulty stingers.
Hardly, countries can't wait to have their new tech tested in live combat.
Don't be silly. If it was faulty, how did they manage to shoot down a Pucara?
No respect to the agressors - they cost hundreds of lives! God decided!
There is a difference between the politicians who send forces, and the actual men who have to do the dirty jobs. As someone said before, the line that divide good and evil, does not go along the frontier of countries, between races, or religious divides, but through the heart of each man.
When one is a soldier is only a tool in the hand of the decision makers. But inside we are all humans, we have humanitarian sentiments and we acknowledge others as human with humanitarian sentiments as well. Not to do so, converts us in just beasts.
The agresors were not the soldiers, but the one who sent them. Presidente Galtieri.
This anecdote demonstrate what I said above.
@@Gerard-Red While they were winning they loved it! It's only when the bullets started flying that they regretted anything. The Junta was massively popular when they invaded. Guilt by association.
This is why the Americans give the Israelis weapons to test.why a British ex soldier is calling the falklands the Argentine name for our islands surprised me.
Because he was speaking to an Argentine who knows them by the different name. Speaking his language so he understood.
@@RealityDysfunction Don’t do that, they are the falklands and the Argentinians know it.
Did he just say stinger missiles were used in Afghanistan to shoot down russian aircraft. # let it slip
that has been known for decades.
..Yes?
Are you just learning this? There's been a movie made about it, "Charlie Wilson's war"
They were very effective against Russian helicopters.
loooool the USSR invaded Afghan before we did (well after actually, we've been before) - look up Soviet-Afghan War.
israel supplied the french exorcet missiles used against british troops
It’s a French weapon that France had sold to Argentina before the war. It’s a anti ship weapon and they had 3 variants Land, ship & air launch.
The USS Stark was hit by two Iranian fired Exocets in 1987 but didn't sink and continued in service until 1999, this attack led to the USS Vincennes mistakenly shooting down an Iranian commercial airliner a year later.
The French sold the Exocet to the Argentinians. The French also sold fighter jets to them.
The USA sold A-6 to Argentina. The USA also sold the light Cruiser USS Phoenix to them and they changed the name to ARA General Belgrano, which the limeys sunk.
Argentina has been a US ally since the RIO treaty was signed, in 1947. The RIO Treaty is like the NATO of North and South America.
@@rayjames6096 The USS Stark was hit by Iraqi fired Exocets. The Iraqi government immediately apologized and payed "restitution." One of the Exocets detonated and the other one did not.
The Iranian airliner shot down was originally mistaken as an F-14. The Iranians had a small ship shooting at US Warships and some oil tankers, so the USN thought it was part of a coordinated attack. The US Navy ordered the aircraft to change heading, but the pilot thought the message was for a different airplane. The US Government apologized and paid restitution. The "Tanker War" was completely unnecessary, but both Iraq and Iran wanted to stop each other from selling oil.
BTW, in 2020, Iran shot down a Ukrainian civilian aircraft. Iran said, it thought the aircraft was a USAF bomber, but that really does not make sense due to the aircraft taking off from an Iranian airport.
The US never sold A-6 Intruders to Argentina, the A-4 Skyhawks used by Argentina in the Falklands war were acquired from Israel, the British also had sold old warships to Argentina.
I know the guys involved in that operation are furious they they risked so much just to allow the Falkland Islanders to sell their fishing rights straight away to the Argentinians. The war was an utter waste of soldiers lives. Yet another UK overseas failing.
Do not be the last to realise The British State is The Enemy Within!
whatever you say
You mean tape worms?
Better to be the enemy within, than the enemy without!
(within without, within without and shake it all about!)
How can the British State be within itself? that makes no sense?
Forgotten to take your pills again? Is that why they found you in Sainsbury's wearing no trousers?
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Fascinating.
This isn't strain station, you don't need to announce your departure
Bye
Glad to see the back of you
Wouldn't be safer to use nuke?
I guess it would but there won't be a thrill. Sorry for a question..
Find this wing commander and get his side of the storey.
It would be wise to remember Russia is currently in collaboration with Argentina to supply fighter jets capable of harassing the Falkland Islands, Argentine fanaticism has never ceased or been apologised for, it's time to start extracting oil from the British economic area surrounding the Falklands and use some of the money to increase defence.
A couple more Eurofighters with modern anti ship missile capabilities, 4 wildcat helicopter with Martlet anti landing craft capability, a few longe range ground launched anti ship missiles wouldn't go amiss, and maybe a couple of silo launched Tridents as an insurance policy.
Don't be silly, Argentina is nearly broke because recent governments have failed to even apply high school level economics to their economy. But if they had the resources to dispatch something larger than a rowboat, the Falklands have RAF fighters staioned at Mt Pleasant and over 1,000 well trained British servicemen are stationed there. The local economy has also grown massively and the population has more than doubled, so the native Falklanders are much richer and more sophisticated than they were 40 years ago. It is totally impossible for Argentina to take over the Falklands for at least 20 years, probably much more.
Lehman: British Would Have Lost Falklands War Without U.S. Support
May 29, 1988
LONDON (AP) _ Britain would not have recaptured the Falkland Islands from Argentina in 1982 without U.S. military assistance, former U.S. Navy Secretary John Lehman was quoted Sunday as saying.
In a British Broadcasting Corp. television interview to be broadcast Wednesday night, Lehman also says U.S. involvement in the Falklands war led indirectly to the Irangate scandal, the Observer newspaper reported.
The weekly said Lehman’s interview will be included in the latest episode of ″An Ocean Apart,″ a BBC documentary series on British-American relations.
″Britain would have had to have withdraw from the Falklands″ if the Reagan administration withheld support, it quoted Lehman as saying.
U.S. military aid in the 74-day war, in which Britain recaptured the South Atlantic archipelago from invading Argentine forces, has been a closely guarded secret, the Observer said.
″Lehman is the first senior U.S. official to claim that the Pentagon’s supplies of intelligence and material were so great as to have been decisive,″ it said.
The newspaper quoted unidentified Pentagon sources as saying U.S. supplies during the war included 200 Sidewinder anti-aircraft missiles, eight Stinger anti-aircraft systems, Harpoon anti-ship missiles, mortar shells, satellite intelligence, communications facilities and use of a U.S. air base on Ascension Island.
@@Dave_Sisson Lehman: British Would Have Lost Falklands War Without U.S. Support
May 29, 1988
LONDON (AP) _ Britain would not have recaptured the Falkland Islands from Argentina in 1982 without U.S. military assistance, former U.S. Navy Secretary John Lehman was quoted Sunday as saying.
In a British Broadcasting Corp. television interview to be broadcast Wednesday night, Lehman also says U.S. involvement in the Falklands war led indirectly to the Irangate scandal, the Observer newspaper reported.
The weekly said Lehman’s interview will be included in the latest episode of ″An Ocean Apart,″ a BBC documentary series on British-American relations.
″Britain would have had to have withdraw from the Falklands″ if the Reagan administration withheld support, it quoted Lehman as saying.
U.S. military aid in the 74-day war, in which Britain recaptured the South Atlantic archipelago from invading Argentine forces, has been a closely guarded secret, the Observer said.
″Lehman is the first senior U.S. official to claim that the Pentagon’s supplies of intelligence and material were so great as to have been decisive,″ it said.
The newspaper quoted unidentified Pentagon sources as saying U.S. supplies during the war included 200 Sidewinder anti-aircraft missiles, eight Stinger anti-aircraft systems, Harpoon anti-ship missiles, mortar shells, satellite intelligence, communications facilities and use of a U.S. air base on Ascension Island.
@@Dave_Sisson in 82 argentina fought nato!! we ejected Soviet Union help knowing that it will lead to ww3....in the other hand uk won that war thanks to u.s aids!
trust me next time gonna be different with Russia and china in our side!
@@kawagonzo6951 Argentina would never have been able to invade the Falklands without American and French help