Falklands conflict: The hidden treasures of Tumbledown and Harriet
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- After the Argentines surrendered the Falklands in 1982, British troops gradually left, but we've found what they left behind.
Hannah King explains.
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I found an Argentine pilots remains on Blue Mountain in 1986, managed to get his pistol and wallet for identification (he was still in the wreckage) he was re-repatriated and the ordnance blown up by the RE.
Could you identify what type of aircraft he was flying?
@@ASkyhawk-ny7mu Pucara, I believe it was A-537. I would add that the pilots remains were handled with dignity and respect.
@@mattrika4874 Wow very interesting from what I’ve gathered this aircraft crashed due to bad weather and poor visibility
You should have kept his bones for voodoo rituals
@@ASkyhawk-ny7mu it had crashed. It wasnt flying.
The reason they had plimsolls in their kit and that you find boots is that they put the gym shoes on at night and slept in their bags in them. There was even one Argentinian found putting his boot on but frozen in this position in death as he was shot in the forehead doing so. I was K Coy in 82 and it was a very interesting experience especially when we did a fighting patrol on the place a few nights before to get them to open up on us so an OP we had dropped off could record their gun positions and from this information the CO could make his plan for the best executed attack of the war.
Yup dunno about now but in the 80s we did this
It wasn't quite so peaceful the last time I was there...!
We recovered an young Argentine conscripts body from near the top of Mt Harriet in 1983.
Argentinian government at the time said they didn't want him sent home as he was already on Argentine soil.
Think his family make have thought differently. Not quite 18 years old.
@@QuantumMech_88 I suppose the RMP Sargent , RE EOD operator, my section and the RAF girl who found him wouldn't agree with you analysis
I'd hold his bones hostage.
the real reason why is the junta did not want public funerals after the loss - as a whole, the argentine society treated their conquered soldiers like garbage for a couple decades after the war
Shameful indeed
Exactly....I was the driver of the BV206 who drove up to near the top of Mt Harriet and remember it to this day.
It was determined that he'd probably been killed by navy shell fire.
Think the RAF girl was on a Battle Field walk.
Most sobering thing I found on Mount Harriet was a stretcher frame that was surrounded by bandage fragments. Makes you realise the reality of casualties and loss of life. Let's make sure this is never repeated....
How do we do that? Its happening as we speak, in more places than one.
Speaking from experience those NBC boots are pretty much impossible to walk in
I've used them as protection in horrible weather when we were pretty certain we wouldn't have to shift soon, in fact we've used the whole.noddy suit for warmth before. But definitely ridiculous to walk in.
As an American. This conflict made me respect Thatcher immensely.
Really..
Don't you mean the British military 🇬🇧
I have a 1982 dated British tin opener from a ration pack, given to me when i was 10 by a Royal Marine who played rugby with my dad and had served in the conflict
A little thing, but still a treasured trinket 🙂
I have one dated 1974 and still use it at times. Lived on my key bunch for nigh on 30 years and was quite polished.
In the late 80s and 90s I started collecting militaria and as I was not far from Plymouth and the Royal Marines Barracks, I managed to get a lot of stuff from a guy who had a shop there.. I have an Argentine short sword issued to NCOs, a boot knife carried by a marine. One of my customers worked at the Naval Dockyard decommissioning yard and I have a locker door from HMS Conqueror, the submarine that sank the Belgrano.
RIP to all the brave men from both sides who died in that terrible war. May the Lord Bless them and keep them always. Amen
Where was he when they were killing each other?
@@oo0Spyder0oo Well said.
I rember the field kitchen in 1986 and still there
Nice video. I think the last words about items being stolen is a bit harsh. Items removed to be preserved or assisting in cleaning up more appropriate perhaps.
Stolen is the correct word in this context.
Well if you're brave enough to rummage on an ex-battlefield, then you've earned that bit of relic!
They weren't 'stolen', imho... I suppose the MOD wants to inhibit war tourism and the reporting of unexploded ordinance as it then needs disposing of...?
If it had any value the local population removed and reused it. My dad hade a merc jeep for work ex Arge army in 1982 after the war.
As for the LAW 66 it was a weapon we used very effectively in the anti human role. I carried 2 on the attack and they got used. Anti tank weapons were used freely against gun positions. As we moved up the hill and taking cover the guide wires from Milan fired at the .5 positions was very effective. On one position which I was close to it took 5 milans to take the position out..... Awesome.
Damned Americans and their war junk
Interesting how the Ukrainians are using the challenger as a long range sniper to hit entrenched gun positions.
When I joined my battalion a few years after the conflict, I was Milan anti-tank. We had several lectures on the use of Milan against emplacements, all based on feedback from the conflict. There were even rumours of new warheads being developed specifically for use against buildings/bunkers/emplacements.
I guess someone at the MoD worked out the cost of each missile.
Many years later, those lessons were repeated in the Gulf War, with Milans being used to flatten fortified emplacements.
Thats incredible, would love to look around there.
We wore pumps running round the deck every morning, Boots DMS would have given the Master at Arms a fit.
My old boss was a helicopter pilot down there with the Fleet Air Arm. He said that many trophies were taken after the conflict and taken home to Blighty.
He said that as his ship approached Portsmouth, the Captain made an announcement that Military and Civilian Police would be conducting searches for contraband and souvenirs and so if anyone had anything that resembled weapons, munitions or parts there of, to get rid of it.. ..
He said you could hear the splashes all around the ship!!
This is so amazing
Funny thing is that the remains the British dude claim to be solid fuel hexamine from the Argentinean Navy, is in fact just a common typical table salt container, of the "Dos Anclas" brand (a common kitchen salt). The logo has two anchors crossed (that is the logo, "dos anclas"). Also, that kind of package container still was used until late 90s for the salt.
Greetings from CHILE 🇨🇱👍
Thanks for your help, Chile!
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@@iodescilla1246 ya te vamos a agarrar en el futuro.
I found an FN barrel in 88, i still have the gas plug somewhere!
That’s cool
@@brickistic8188 Technically that is a crime as it is a pressure bearing element of the semi auto mechanism. Better not be found by the Police if they ever search you in UK!
I used to take plimsoles after seeing a few lads lose their boot soles and spare boots being too heavy.
Metal detecting there would be a lot of fun!
There are lots of caves full of stuff played there as a kid . We would go looking for anything that the army bomb disposable team would have to remove. So they would take us out in the BV to recover it .
TY sub'd long ago ;)
Amazing.
Ah yes the nightmare of the Noddy Suit overboots, memories!
Didn't want that memory thanks.
Why are these items not kept at a museum and preserved.
Nature deserves to be cleaned up from the debris of war
RIP the fallen British and Argentinian troops . ⚘️⚘️
I noticed his car key hanging from his belt is car theft a big thing on the Islands now days
Wouldnt surprise me, i bet a few falklander students at uni and they all seemed off the rails, i can imagine the 4th generation farmer ones are the dodgyest.
Rarely a problem. Small community so people would find out quite quick if you were using someone else’s car
@@olivere5497shitty thing to say but alright
@olivere5497 Could be the incomes who are causing the present crime wave.
There was a collection who went there to supposedly start up businesses after the war.
It is not a treasures, it's a pain......
A longer more thorough Doc would be nice to watch ... 5 mins doesnt even cover an Intro about the war . Nice teaser but can we get the Real Documentary ? Please and Thank you . I ask because i (and i would assume others too) would like to Know and Learn more about this conflict . Cheers .
There are plenty of documentaries about the Falklands War. Do your own legwork.
Hardass
The over boots are used by the British armed forces during the Cold War it was part of the Nuclear Biological and chemical warfare suit 👍
Many 'treasures' stolen? Salvaged more like.
I found some bullets at mount tumbledown
No le faltes el respeto a nuestros heroes 🇦🇷
@@luciano2003.Heroes? 😂
@@McSeahorse For us, yes.
@@luciano2003. They might have been our Enemy but they still deserve respect my friend 🙏
Good old days when you could take what you wanted I miss those time’s
amen
To me it didn't look like they took anything while they were there. They are showing some respect for a place where men have fought and died.
@@alonsocushing2263 I was there after the war clearing up. All that got moved was weapons and ammunition. The cost and difficulty of moving anything else was considered too high. There was not much taken by the soldiers who had to go through RAF police checks on departure. Souvenir taking was not popular or encouraged.
There were no roads around Kent and Tumbledown until long after the war and land access without a BV was very difficult. I mostly went by helicopter.
Its only since tourists have been allowed on the sites that stuff has been taken. The locals were not really interested in taking stuff unless it could be used to repair a vehicle or do things to sheep...!
@@felixthecat265 I lived there from 82 to 91 if it hade value to the locals it was reused. The locals would allso use the tips the UK army would dump old kit in. They would build land rover out of it and get spare parts.Many of the houses are built from old sailing ships they reuse and are good at it.
Ukraine for UK. Russia for Argentina.
I don’t get it
Me neither
@@brickistic8188Neither did the Argentinians... 😂
Does every household have a FN FAL?
Some Argentine FN FAL rifles were deactivated to be used for training but the vast majority of equipment was simply dumped in the Atlantic on the way home.
@@charliespareaccamazing, did it not have any salvage value to HM gov?
@@olivere5497 we used L1A1s, which were inch pattern
The Argentinians used FN FALs, which were metric.
The parts are not interchangeable so there was no use in keeping them
@@charliespareacc while i agree with you on that point, HM gov does like owning stuff for a rainy day/coup. I get it that its a lot of man hours checking the quality of each weapon.
@@olivere5497 we did take a few trophies like a Chinook that was used in the RAF and then cannibalised for parts. Also a few artillery pieces and a LOT of ammo (about 4 million rounds)
Desolate cold windy barren land.
2:59 What's the fast moving black object in the background ???
A fly walking across your screen?
Nothing?
You need go look closer coming from left to right 👉
its a car on a road ya numpty
its a car on the road below
Hang on,the Argentinians didn't surrender the Falklands,it makes it seem that the UK invaded the Islands and kicked out the people of Argentina.The British Army liberated the Islands for the British people who had lived there for generations.Never seen such a poorly written piece of "journalism".
Well done Brit,s
Armada does not mean navy. It is Spanish for army.
Wrong! Armada means Navy! Try the Spanish Armada!
@@benwilson6145 Ask the Spanish Army what armada means.
@@seumasnatuaighe Duh!
@@seumasnatuaighe Hi Seumas, The Spanish for Army is ejército.
Regards
Jon
York MIlitary Books
Armada, navy Ejercito, army
Hilux and not Land Rover. Sensible chap!
You'd think after 40 years the MOD would have the decency to clear it up. Dreadful that all the mess is still there. PS they're not "treasures", it's no better than fly tipping.
No one goes there so why bother it will disolve in another 40yezrs.
@@Eric-kn4ynthe titanic is almost gone.
Memories of the past. They’re interesting to come across
Make love not war
Too bad for the environment that so much garbage has been left behind.
😆😆🥱😆
Plenty of fertiliser
Argentinian soldiers should have been kept back to clean up. Then made to clear their mine fields.
Imagine cleaning up all the mines left by the British in other wars, it would take a minimum of 50 years. Damn hypocrite.
Que linda periodista británica 😂 🇦🇷
Many treasures stolen by curious tourists? … Nah locals more likely 😂
Mix of both really
@@brickistic8188 No.. mostly tourists. The Bennies were/are not interested..
BRITISH army always carried plimsoles for wearing in the sleeping bag , not sure if they still do that ?
While they are there they should look for that randy/murdered royal marine some local jealous farmer killed and hid. Heheh.
I did a search for the marine at North Arm. Waist deep in water in various ditches.
@@julianteague5768 you should have looked harder!
Buluk
Why Wear Beretts?Helmets are Much better...
Not if there's no fighting going on they ain't.
A lot of the fighting was done at night and berets were worn to distinguish friend from foe and prevent "friendly fire" accidents. Helmets aren't actually that effective against bullets and heavy shrapnel, the only time they work is against light mostly spent shrapnel.
The Falklands war was a mistake that wasted many lives.
The Malvinas belong to Argentina , and should be returned immediately.
Diego Maradona was one of the greatest footballers ever.
RIP.
the falklands were British before Argentina was even a country. your comment is so obviously virtue signalling if it wasn't so factually wrong it would be hilarious.
Deeeeeeeelirio. Enfermos. Argento. El. Matooooooon. De. La. Región. ⚰️🪦💩🪦💩⚰️🪦💩⚰️@@jreg2007
If you really think that then do something instead of ranting on a UA-cam video
@@RaquelÁlvarez-z2ido you live in the islands?
Shame he wasn't a good infantry soldier, eh?
Either way - he's well deed!
I heard the plimsoles were worn by the Argentines because most were so poorly equipped and trained, they were their actual kit as they weren't issued boots...