Buying Too Many Cool Things (Can?) Kill The Coolness Factor?! [Ep. 63]
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We discuss how the collector module in our hobbyist brain is often working against us despite how it may seem. Ah, the slippery slope! Game on!
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What you are experiencing is what I describe as the 'embarrasment of riches'. We grew up in a world that had a fraction of the opportunties for bringing concepts to life. Years ago, the artists alley at the convention hallway was where all the creative types hung out with their sketchbooks, hoping to impress people. Now we have resin printing at home and a.i. Every day, every HOUR, is another explosion of creative output, gonzo minis, and mind blowing imagery. It's a supernova of art, sculpts, animation, and visual feasts. It's hard for the imagination to keep up. I feel sorry the generations growing up in this hyper media. They'll be jaded by the time they reach 11. We are reaching a saturation point of 'coolness'. The coolness bar is so high now that it's hard to stand out, and it's hard to be impresed.
Very well put, agreed! 🍻
I have to say that I both love and fear the way your mind works sometimes. I can't wait to see what you will do with painting these models, but at the same time I'm afraid that there may be an upcoming video titled ''cooking with Tabletop Alchemy'' and there will be an unacceptable amount of spiders included in the desert course. 😁
Also, this slippery slope of ''jeez it's only 'xyz' bucks'' is why I try to avoid Aliexpress nowadays
😂 right on, I think that episode is coming up, someday! And I have yet to buy anything off Aliexpress but I know exactly what you mean lol. 🧀🕷️
I think what you're describing is the connecting slope between "hobby" and "chore". I love painting models, especially to give as gifts- but the thought of taking a commission (turning it into work) kills part of that enjoyment. Maybe when you look at all 3 on the shelf you see it slightly more as a task to complete, and not a passtime to enjoy?
This might be what it is. Funny, my buddy who could probably make a living doing commissions refuses to do em lol precisely because he doesn’t want to think of hobbying as work (and he doesn’t want to part with anything he’s painted lol).
I could not stop watching. You continue to have a captivating story-telling technique. Well done. That said, i will have to avoid your videos on days when i want to get something done.
Lol much appreciated! I try to keep the vids short and not ramble too much 😬🍻
Don’t worry, you were pointing in the right direction. The ‘90s are over there. It’s the same direction I point to when talking about the ‘90s. Or the “late 1900’s” as I have heard people say now, and yes, I felt really old when I heard that.
Wow, I hadn’t heard that one til now and now I’m gonna use it everywhere lol! 😂🍻
I really appreciate your insight. What you are sharing really resonates with me and helps me better understand some of the struggles I am having with my hobby.
🤙 I suppose I’m finding out “less is always more” lol - here’s to the struggle 🍻
Not miniatures. but my PDF collection grew at a super accelerated rate, Then I started to print them off. I found an updated version of the Trove, and found a place to get all of the OOP Merp modules. I was very happy because I found the few that I never had, turning them into a bound printed version felt great, but as I downloaded all of them it was starting to feel off. I could in a short while have every single module and ready to run for my collection. But it was starting to lose something when I was going to print off some of the ready to runs that I didn't like, and I stopped there. There is a dangerous line to cross, when something loses the uniqueness because you went overboard on a project. It is cool that I now have Moria, a Dwarven city. Not so cool when it is one of many , next to "Hillmen of the Trollshaws".
Yep, excellent parallel example. It made me think for a minute and I think an odd counter to this whole thing is a “library” - not of gaming materials but just of “reading books”, for some reason in the particular case of a library I don’t think I feel the same way … might have to do a video to explore this lol! 🍻
aaahhh MERP I remember that game with such fondness, even though my characters died often :D Our GM was amazing? or the modules were great? It was almost magical! Good times and noodle salad
Your analysis reminds me about something Syndrome said in "The Incredibles," "If everyone is special, then no one is." If all of your projects are special, then none of them are.
Excellent pull from an excellent flick! 🤙🍻
I have found that I can put about six figures in my active painting area. More, and I cannot be excited about any one figure and I see them as chores. Individually, I can think about them and get excited about painting them. If I only have one or two in my paint area, though, I know I cannot continuously paint because I'll have to wait for sections to dry and I won't stay focused on painting. If I go buy some figures, I have to put them away until I have an open spot in my paint area or else switch out a half-painted figure for the new one.
I hate having partially-painted figures hanging out among the greys, but sometimes, it has to happen. Sometimes, I get stumped on a half-finished color scheme. Sometimes, I just lose inspiration for painting that particular thing. Sometimes, the new shiny leaps to the front of the queue.
Thank you for airing and discussing these little brain greivances of mini painting!
Absolutely! And you’re welcome, glad u enjoyed it 🍻
I will have to try putting a few minis on the table to paint, I hate waiting for them to dry :D
I love kitbashing with larger scale models! Mainly because my eyesight is so bad but also because I love to create stories for what I paint. And yes my projects are often stuck in the in process stage but that only means that I haven't figured out how to do something. 😅 Or found the final piece to complete it. I find that my in progress pile motivates me to learn something so I can move forward. So at least I'm still stumbling forward.😂
That’s the spirit! I’m pretty sure humans are “stuck in process” too lol🍻
Just seen your channel for the first time. Great video! It really explains the hype when buying a new model and how it can quickly spiral. I currently am going through my piles of opportunity and storing them away out of sight or selling them. Its great and feels like a burden off my shoulders. If you see something cool its always a good idea to wait an extra couple days and see if that spark still exists.
Again great video !
Awesome, thanks! And you’ve laid down a very true statement there, agreed - getting stuff out is a huge help sometimes! 🍻
Where I'm from we call it shiney object-i-tis the buying of more minis before painting the last one you had
Yup lol and so many shinies out there! 😂🍻
I'm a sucker for cool STLs, model boat kits, rockets, casting sets for steam and gas engines (yup, do the mill and lathe thing as well as lasers and printers). I realized late last year that the stuff waiting for me to build, paint, and or machine the model would take more time than allowed for by my birth certificate best by date. Quite a rude awakening, and it made me sell some of those kits and casting sets that just don't excite me like they did 20 or 30 years ago when I got them. Oh well, guess it's time to head off to the model rail show on Saturday! Of course I have cash from all the stuff I sold at Cabin Fever Model Engineering show last weekend making my wallet scream spend some of this. Wonder if I'll manage to avoid going too nuts this weekend? :-)
Lol making room for the new, it’s familiar treadmill ain’t it? Enjoy the show! 🍻
Hey there. I've never painted a mini before, though I have painted a couple 3D printed props / cosplay pieces. I find such joy watching this channel because while I can't relate to the specific techniques and exact materials used in every video, I feel connected to a lot of the struggles and topics you discuss. I am an engineer by design, and one of the many (thanks ADHD) hobbies I have is 3D printing, and more specifically I enjoy building and modifying the printers. I currently have 7 printers. Some fully working, some fully broken, some never before yet assembled, and some in the in-between stages. I found that having so many things in an unfinished state gave me a lot of anxiety about approaching any of the projects, and I have recently begun the process of working on the ones closest to being finished and getting rid of the parts - and in one case most of a whole printer - that are not of any further use and area actually keeping me from working on or using any of the printers. Thanks for sharing your stories with us, it's an inspiration and a comfort to those who can relate. Keep up the great work!
Ah that’s awesome to hear! Prop work is very cool! And it sounds like you’re making some strategic decisions on the home creativity front, keep on pushing 🤙🍻
My collector module is my greatest hobby weakness. I always have to fight that voice that tells me the next thing will be the mcguffin that finally gets rid of all the struggle, whether it is a paint, brush, widget, or miniature. For a while it was large scale minis, so now I have a fair few on my shelf ready to paint. They are definitely a nice break from working on tiny bits, but man do I want to go all out on them every time. Thanks for the great video! 💜
Lol I hear all of this! 🤙🍻
That, right there, is 'Distraction'. Your spike-to-puddle-of-coolness thing refers to the dilution of attention. Ideally we want to be focusing our attention and achieving Flow when we construct and paint that model (to court 'Mastery', get our Zen on, and transmute Art into Magic!). However, those other models are picking at your attention, begging to be beheld. I have the same problem, but as well as that, I have multiple hobbies... as well as my piles of opportunity and my half complete projects on my mini table, I also have, among other things, several 3d printers with an ever growing pile of STLs, and a silver smithing bench.... and you'd be amazed how well a project can grab at your attention when it is _literal_ treasure!!
Oh man, I hear this! Excellent point about “distraction” that is right on the money thank you. And you’ve got silver smoothing (so cool!) and I’ve got Lego 😂🍻
Ah... the 90's. When Saturday Night Live, Pauly Shore (maybe), and Klinger were still funny. I miss them.
Lol - another commenter has made me aware of the best term I’m gonna use from now on: “back in the late 1900s …” 😂🍻
@@tabletopalchemy I'm stealing that.
As a fellow collector. I have been through this. It's a good thing my wife keeps me in reality at times. She looks at my models, Slot cars, Figures and the rest and just says. You can't have any more until you build the ones you have. She knows some of the stuff I won't build or paint for collectors reasons. So I get to build and buy one for one. I have shelf after shelf in my hobby/sound studio as she calls it full of my models... ect. It's time to build. Well maybe later. I am on the air right now. LOL
😂🎙️ you should live stream working on models in between your on air bits in the studio! One for one … we should probably all do that but that’s gotta be one of the most difficult habits to achieve!
@@tabletopalchemy LOL I wish I had the video equipment to do that. I should see what I can find. My talents are mainly audio productions, but who knows. Maybe I should branch out. . My wife is very supportive. Doing the on for one was easy I just started doing it and it started to work.
Oh I have. I print them myself, too (subscribed to Loot Studios and most of their models come in both 32mm and 75mm scale, including some busts every month!). Usually, I print and paint 32mm figures, but man, there's just something relaxing about painting something where the details are just not that small, even if you don't get to use it in a game.
This is exactly what I’m hoping for lol (relaxing with large detail)! And yep I’m jealous of the ability to have a printer lol. 🍻
I 3D printed a model about 5 inches tall and a base and was super excited to paint it. Did the work, and a few months later noticed a crack in the model. Tried to fix it as best I could and then realized it was uncured resin inside. The model started fracturing more as time went on. Chucked it and haven't tried another really big build since then 😢
Aw man! Well that’s just part of the learning process🤙 Try another one!
Scarcity makes things more valuable, even psychologically.
This is a fact! Well said. 🍻
"I have an almost guaranteed to be erroneous feeling that it would be easier" lmfao just found your channel, loving it
Sorry I missed this comment, sometimes YT works like a well designed machine. But glad you enjoyed the video lol. 🍻
This is a really interesting and well articulated take. Hadn't considered this much but feels especially relevant right now as I'm getting back into the hobby. One of the consequences of diving back in quickly and deeply is / can be spreading that enthusiasm across potential projects, resulting in feeling like no one project is quite as cool as you had previously felt it was.
I get that for sure! It’s weird sometimes to want to “do it all, have it all” while knowing you have to implement restraint to keep the enthusiasm up. Good luck tho super cool that you’re driving back in! 🍻
Thank you!@@tabletopalchemy
Heh. Feeling you there. I saw a Buccaneer Vampire Blood Bowl team and since I was in for $100 it was easy to add a Rat Ogre and Cole Van Bat Coat since I was already in
Lol yep! But hey, who wouldn’t want a pirate vampire blood bowl team?! I’m gonna have to look that one up …
As always, thanks for sharing, and prompting me to ponder. Currently my collection is catalogued and the the pile of opportunity is dozens of items in the couple thousands in the hold. I've been through the quantity of quality phase and acquired simply because I could. Now, I only acquire if I can answer "why the buy", and when my enthusiasm for that item seems to fade, I think of that specific 'why' and I'm good again. BTW, I had to google what 75mm was in scale. 1/24th-ish, so yea that Brom princess warrior would look great next to a couple of my old 1/24 scale hot rods on display. L8r.
Hah, a 1/24 scale hot rod that’s a pretty cool idea! 🤙😂
Excellent! I really like your viewpoint and how you express it.
Thank you, sir!
+1 for Cheesecake with Brom on the side please.
😂🍻
If you only paint 32mm minis and enjoy it, definitely get a 75mm(good quality) have fun n take your time
Back in the early 90s there was a company that cast 12 inch LEAD figures (could have been Grendel, can't recall the name).
Anyway, at the time I was playing games at a VR centre in Nottingham and they wanted a prize for a competition they were running and I offered to paint up a couple of these "Models" as the prizes.
Multi part 12 inch lead figures, 3 of them.
30 years later I still shudder at my hubris. It was a nightmare.
I was happy with the finished pieces, the company was happy, they prize winners were happy ... but I swore never again.
Today with plastic or resin and an airbrush, why not, but back then just handling them was a workout and painting with brushes..... shudder.
😂😂😂 I can feel that nightmare pain lol yes indeed! 🍻
Cool Fatigue is what I'd call that
Our society is currently brimming with that lol 🤙🍻
Well i have a whole colection of 75mm figures, probably about 25-30. They are super great, but only one is painted. And it took me so much time to paint it to my liking, that i would have enougth figures for the next 10years of hobby. Also i cant realy descide what to start first, so i dont really start at all. And constantly being fomoed and hyped with new and exciting other projects makes it hard to sit down and paint „the old models“.
Yep, I’m gonna have to talk about fomo sooner or later, there’s just no way around it. I feel your pain! 🍻
That's why I had to stop looking at the new shiny toys, then all you are doing is buying new things and never getting anything done :/
@@tinaprice4948 Yea my goal for this year is to not buy any new models and only paint my back log. Just getting sober from all the hype. Working great so far. Every time you see a new thing you don't need to decide if its worth, you just don't get it.
Oh as Uncle Adam says control the goblin brain....
Lol yes indeed! Great term for it too.
I feel exactly the same when buying more video games.🤦
Lol yep been there too
Yeah, I have a 75mm Vampire Hunter D resin and white metal model that I need to get to in my stash.
Oooh Vampire Hunter D?! That is very cool. 🤙🍻
@@tabletopalchemy If you want the kit, it's yours. I'll never get to it. It is the Yoshitaka Amano Collection 2 Vampire Hunter D Nightmare from the mid-90s in cast resin with white metal and a small photo etch sheet. Definitely more garage kit than what you would find today. I no longer have the box for it, but I have the complete kit and instruction sheet for it.
@rustedbeetle ah, thank you for the offer, that’s super cool of you! But I’ll decline, I gotta take some of my own dang medicine at some point 😂🏴☠️🍻
Im pretty sure any mistakes you make on a 28mm model become 3x worse on a 75mm model, so no. I’m sticking to the smaller scale. But I’m interested to see how it goes for you! Cheers! 🍻
All right we shall see lol - either way, fun experiment (hopefully)🍻
Thankfuly you didnt get further sidetracked by the 75mm Brom minis that are out now... #stares at backlog
Omg I didn’t know those existed… sheesh. 🏴☠️
@tabletopalchemy there are days my wallet regrets knowing too lol
Next you'll need to look at getting a cloche or two. Or ten.
Ah yes I think you’re right lol! 🍻
@@tabletopalchemy I have a cupboard in the kitchen full of cloche from when I wanted to paint larger scale figures.
I started with larger figs from creature caster. I think it made me a better painter because the larger surfaces required more detail while allowing for slower drying time. I use oils these days, but back then I also used inks to thin my paint. Vibrancy is really really important on larger figs imo.
Good tip! I haven’t gotten into oils other than a “griming wash”. I do like inks tho!
If one is good, more is gooder...
...right?
Uhhhh… yes! Yes it is! Wait … 😭
Let's see I have 2 models from Squidmar's Champions of Sona Kickstarter at 75mm, plus I've been a supporter of Witchsong Miniatures for 14 months that has netted me 67 STLs half of which are busts the other are 75mm and I've been a patron of Archvillian Games for 3 years and there's multiple larger scale models each month. The only none gaming piece I've painted so far is the Space Bear bust from Jazza and Tabletop Time. Holiday season kinda wrecked my painting rhythm but hope to get back into it.
Oh boy, archvillain and witch song are great! That’s a lotta big scale files … and I’m sure if I had a printer I’d be in a similar situation 🤙🍻
You think about this waaaaay too much. You need more hobbies.
😂😂🏴☠️
Okay. Forgive my second comment tonight. I'd like to see your completed paint job. Yes, use your airbrush. They're are game changing. I did a couple of busts in the last couple of months for my oldest boy. In honor of a short film, he and his friends did. It's silly as hell but I'm proud of the job they did. I'll send you pics on insta.
Also, i just want to say you've become a Thursday night staple. Thank you for what you do. I appreciate it.
Awesome, I can’t wait to see em! And thanks, really happy you enjoy the content; next week’s vid might throw a wrench in there but we’ll see 😈🍻
@@tabletopalchemy lol I can wait to see it.