One thing to note with that HoT spec you talked about at the end. It synergies well with the 5 piece druid tier 2 bonus "reduce casting time on regrowth by 0.2 seconds". Spam regrowth, get crits, proc natures grace, and boom your casting 1.3 second regrowths. Paladin's flash of light can suck it!
After watching skarm using the HOTW/NS build in a raid tanking/healing i was sold to this.Definately going for this spec if i roll a druid. Really nice video for all the druids out there :)
Ya its not too bad really if you start early on even with greens. Also highly recommend item rack or another gear swapping addon if you're going to do this. If you have the bag space you can even build a dps set as well for times when the tank/healer role is already filled. This build lets you basically fill in whatever the group is lacking which is awesome.
I would love a video on keybinds! I'm not gonna be playing a druid this go around, so if you end up doing a keybind video specifically for druids, add a section for general classes please :)
HOTW is the best spec early on in the game and you can off-tank if / when it's required. Moonglow is good later on when you have better stats from gear. The other specs I wouldn't even personally recommend. There's also the flag carrying / PvP spec that wasn't covered in this video, but basically you want Natural Shapeshifter, Feral Charge and Swiftmend.
Thank you so much for making this video. I love the 12/0/39 and would highly recommend 1/11/39 for pvp healing or even 8/11/31 (especially if you have the 3 or 4 piece pvp set speed bonus) ... This spec makes you feel like your playing a druid in BC and it's pretty sweet. The speed form increase is not to be understated.. 55%travel form (not sure if minor speed to boots stacks with this but that would be 63% insta cast travel form!!!) I completely forgot about the hot spec there at the end (quite mana intensive but faster heals : )
Love the Druid stuff man!!! I’ve been playing vanilla again on the Whitemane cluster on classic era and it’s been an absolute blast. It’s been popping offf!!! Vanilla is the best version of world of Warcraft. Nothing comes close in its unchanged state. Are you still playing? Hope you’ve been well! #NoChangesAlways!
Heart of the wild spec is amazing to level with in Hardcore. You can tank or heal your dungeons and have "Oh-Shit" buttons for days. Thanks for the guidance!
Lvling with mark of the wild spec now, I really love the flexibility I love to heal but sometimes that spot is filled so I can just swap to tank gear n take that role, if I’m really jinxed that role is also filled I’ll do alright enough as cat dps, love the spec, might go for more pure resto when I’m 60 tho but for lvling I’m recommend this one
I'm probably doing a hybrid of moonglow with hot, you can take a few points out of the improved rejuve and regrowth and still get moonglow, that will help Mana and just hot the raid, it's what a druid healer is mostly utilized and known for
It's really interesting I feel like the HoT-Druid Spec seems to me like it would be the best when geared already. I mean it seems to me like it would make it into an incredibly fast regrowth critmachine. So it will cost a lot of mana if you spam cast regrowth with reduced cast time. With really good gear the heal improvements from gear would make that pretty epic. Unless you run out of mana which is again something that can be fixed or atleast the threat of running out can be reduced with gear and preparation.
Moon glow untill the gear is good enough for heart of the wild. Thats my plan anyway. Swift mend is mainly annoying, if your in a tuff spot and use it, you need 1 or 2 seconds to reapply the hots, and figure out what spell it ate... Not fun when in a panic! 🤪
It always hits the hot with a lower remaining time remaining. I like to hit it with 1 sec left. Its not that great unless your raid is low on priest heals. Edit: im horde idk if paladins have super fast heals to save ppl
Garbage. It only affects your PARTY, not the raid. The cooldown and mediocre healing relegate it to a very niche party trick, err highly situational spell.
In Moonglow spec you have enough Resto points to get 2/5 Improved Regrowth and its very worth it. Allows/Justifies you to go Super-Saiyan mode when you want to, and spam Max-Rank Regrowth. The ZG trinket is like Super-Saiyan mode too with Healing Touch, but when it's on cooldown you can pay a heavy mana cost to do the same thing with Regrowth. The situation where you will want to do this comes up A LOT. Also before classic I felt like moonglow was a lame raidlogger raid spec, and it was HOTW that would be more fun. But ultimately I found it was the opposite; moonglow is by far the best wpvp spec of these 4 reasonably min-maxed raid healer specs. (Only for ganking though; HOTW and Swiftmend are definitely better for Warsong Gultch.)
these resto specs are horrible until endgame. if two druids are going to duo, level both as feral. one can focus on bear form, the other can focus on cat. At 40 when you both get heart of the wild, one can pick up int/spi gear to take advantage of the +20% int buff and go to swiftmend to finish leveling as resto. the other can lean into bear form and go towards omen of clarity to level as a tank.
That‘s not even all of the specs. There‘s at least one more, which is the 8-12-31 PvP-Resto-Spec with Natural-Shapeshifter, Feral-Charge and Swiftmend.
hi, great guide. One note: i dont see the point that you are making that one should take Faerie Fire (feral) when choosing the HoT spec. Faerie Fire is available as a spell when you are caster, and assuming you are healing you already have that. The FF (feral) is needed when you are tanking/dps as feral
τελικά τι spec αποφάσισες; εγώ εχω σχετικά καλό gear και moonglow spec, αλλά τώρα σκέφτομαι να το γυρίσω σε swiftmend(deep resto) ή hot spec (regrowth+nature's grace) επειδή στο AQ40 raid έχει πολύ απότομο damage
Hello what is the best Spec with Pre Equip for Raiding MC Phase One?Is it Swiftmend for Tank Healing or other one?What ist the best spec for Raidhealing?Sorry for my English writing
I should add, I thank you for providing the content- it’s thought provoking for me. I just curious how many raiding Druids actually use the 0/30/21 build because I thought the stat priority was healing power, mp5, spirit then int
If you add 20% to your base intellect, you need less regen because of the larger pool and increased crit chance. But you could prioritize spirit or mp5 as your stats, and still have the mana pool needed due to the 20% increase.
Heart of the wild might be the best. you spend 5 points into that 10% healing talent but it only gives you 5% healing overall. Heart of the wild is nuts
Hi TJ! Any recommendation on the gear stats? I know a lot of people say HP first etc.. But when leveling (51) what if i have a pants with 40HP or a pants with 20 intellect/15 spirit etc.. What would be best?
Honestly pure HP is simply for raiding. Gear with higher intellect and spirit is all around better for world instances and questing. HP is BiS for resto druid in a raid setting. If you aren't raiding, hold onto the HP gear incase you dont get an upgrade by the time you're doing mc or ony, or for dungeons, but outside of instances use the better intellect and spirit gear
I'm using Moonglow right now but I have other druids in raid with me that are Swiftmend spec. I love the spec but the problem I keep having is that their Rejuvs are more powerful than mine so when they HoT up my assignment, they knock mine off by overwriting it and keep me from being able to put it up. It's very frustrating and it wastes my mana.
Using Hotw build and I feel you 😫 same situation here, u should get assigned to Tanks maybe, or have groups divided amongst the druid?, organize it a bit more, it saves alot of mana on all healers. But with your build maybe tank healing is better.
@@Vonulrich Thank you for the advice but the problem has solved itself. At the time of the posting we were taking the same pugs every week and combining raid with another guild. We have since grown large enough that it's no longer necessary and I am now the only resto druid in our current raid. I was assigned to tank heal but that didn't stop them from throwing HoTs up on my tank target which is where the frustration was coming from.
Your talent calculator is fucked beyond belief. At level 60, the cost of Swiftmend is 249 mana. It's slightly less expensive than Healing Touch rank 5. Wearing dungeon blues, it costs about 5% of total mana.
TL:DR Healing Touch is the overall best spec. (moonglow) Regrowth spec is very late game but has better HPS. (Hot druid) HotW is the worst but you can tank. (Hybrid) Last spec is the tank healing only spec, pretty much. (Swiftmend) Not many high lvl druids play this because natures swiftness already is the "oh shit" button.
Im so glad that im not going with any of your talent specs, been best drood heal for so long..A druid don't heal MT in radis, the Priests does, you heal the priests and the raid
As a future Resto Druid in classic, I’m really glad to have found your channel on here! This video was very useful. I did find another build that claimed was good for both PvP, PvE, and even tanking dungeons and wanted to get your feedback on it. It’s 8/12/31 and can be found on this video at 09:33 ua-cam.com/video/EEqIxqdWMgE/v-deo.html
One thing to note with that HoT spec you talked about at the end. It synergies well with the 5 piece druid tier 2 bonus "reduce casting time on regrowth by 0.2 seconds". Spam regrowth, get crits, proc natures grace, and boom your casting 1.3 second regrowths. Paladin's flash of light can suck it!
I hadn't thought about that. Excellent points!
Not worth wearing the 5 piece because the GCD is 1.5 seconds, having a 1.3 cast doesn't raise your hps any.
@@timegoblin1288 Druids have a 1 sec GCD, unless something has changed.
Classic druid is my favorite class of all time. The flexibility in pvp and pve is so cool. Nice video, very educative.
I mained Resto Druid back then, but I still didn't know about some of the specs you mentioned. Very nice content, keep up the good work!
Small tip: if you wanna get pre-raid bis you should spec for Hotw build it allows you to tank in 5ppl and heal in raids
After watching skarm using the HOTW/NS build in a raid tanking/healing i was sold to this.Definately going for this spec if i roll a druid.
Really nice video for all the druids out there :)
Beware that you really need 2 gear sets for this tho. Might take a while.
I recommend going for healing BiS first.
@@Spinexus you build those sets while levelling :)
Ya its not too bad really if you start early on even with greens. Also highly recommend item rack or another gear swapping addon if you're going to do this. If you have the bag space you can even build a dps set as well for times when the tank/healer role is already filled. This build lets you basically fill in whatever the group is lacking which is awesome.
Thanks for the Druid Content!
Thank you. I've been obsessed with druids lately. Can't wait to play one as my main.
@@classict.j.1311 HOTW will do that to any man. Can't wait to play that spec either my friend.
Im maining druid going HOTW/NS :D
Freaking LOVE your content. I’d like a video on your keybindings though. 😉
That's a great video idea. I hadn't thought about that until now.
I would love a video on keybinds! I'm not gonna be playing a druid this go around, so if you end up doing a keybind video specifically for druids, add a section for general classes please :)
Great content. Druids are such good healers. And loving the Tauren back ground #Taurenpride
HOTW is the best spec early on in the game and you can off-tank if / when it's required. Moonglow is good later on when you have better stats from gear. The other specs I wouldn't even personally recommend. There's also the flag carrying / PvP spec that wasn't covered in this video, but basically you want Natural Shapeshifter, Feral Charge and Swiftmend.
Thank you so much for making this video. I love the 12/0/39 and would highly recommend 1/11/39 for pvp healing or even 8/11/31 (especially if you have the 3 or 4 piece pvp set speed bonus) ... This spec makes you feel like your playing a druid in BC and it's pretty sweet. The speed form increase is not to be understated.. 55%travel form (not sure if minor speed to boots stacks with this but that would be 63% insta cast travel form!!!)
I completely forgot about the hot spec there at the end (quite mana intensive but faster heals : )
Love the Druid stuff man!!! I’ve been playing vanilla again on the Whitemane cluster on classic era and it’s been an absolute blast. It’s been popping offf!!! Vanilla is the best version of world of Warcraft. Nothing comes close in its unchanged state. Are you still playing? Hope you’ve been well! #NoChangesAlways!
Such a nice Guide in 15 min ! Thanx Bruh !
I used to play a Moonglow esque bakc in the day. was great in 5 and 10 mans as a dps/ot/oh.
Heart of the wild spec is amazing to level with in Hardcore. You can tank or heal your dungeons and have "Oh-Shit" buttons for days. Thanks for the guidance!
Lvling with mark of the wild spec now, I really love the flexibility I love to heal but sometimes that spot is filled so I can just swap to tank gear n take that role, if I’m really jinxed that role is also filled I’ll do alright enough as cat dps, love the spec, might go for more pure resto when I’m 60 tho but for lvling I’m recommend this one
I'm probably doing a hybrid of moonglow with hot, you can take a few points out of the improved rejuve and regrowth and still get moonglow, that will help Mana and just hot the raid, it's what a druid healer is mostly utilized and known for
I'll take the moonglow and hearth of the wild builds, ¡Thanks you!! :)
Really surprised no feline swiftness in HotW since that's a pvp spec and that talent is a must
he explained that he doesnt use cat tho.
An excellent video; thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts.
Terrific video
It's really interesting I feel like the HoT-Druid Spec seems to me like it would be the best when geared already. I mean it seems to me like it would make it into an incredibly fast regrowth critmachine. So it will cost a lot of mana if you spam cast regrowth with reduced cast time. With really good gear the heal improvements from gear would make that pretty epic. Unless you run out of mana which is again something that can be fixed or atleast the threat of running out can be reduced with gear and preparation.
I can currently main tank and main tank heal without respecing during AQ40. HOTW is god. HOTW is life. HOTW is the ONLY true druid.
Great content mate! All builds very interesting. Everyone should have a Rest Druid... but lots of flavours with the old talent trees.
Moon glow untill the gear is good enough for heart of the wild. Thats my plan anyway. Swift mend is mainly annoying, if your in a tuff spot and use it, you need 1 or 2 seconds to reapply the hots, and figure out what spell it ate... Not fun when in a panic! 🤪
It always hits the hot with a lower remaining time remaining. I like to hit it with 1 sec left. Its not that great unless your raid is low on priest heals. Edit: im horde idk if paladins have super fast heals to save ppl
Well. Those 1k subs you asked fore actually came :D You've come along way in a year.
Well done. Great video. Most helpful! 👍🏼
This video was very helpful. Thank you.
You can reasonably tank raids with the heart of the wild spec. It's pretty good. Just have a tank set
I wish someone would make reference to the usefulness of Tranquility in raids
I think the CD and potential for interrupt make it less attractive... It's more of a OH SH!T heal...
You have to pair it with bark skin for sure
Garbage. It only affects your PARTY, not the raid. The cooldown and mediocre healing relegate it to a very niche party trick, err highly situational spell.
Nice vid! Just switched from warrior to druid. And I like the hotw build!
the hybrid build you have there is from Skarm Tank best druid /warrior tank ....but in total rly good video
Lol no, heart of the wild spec was around in vanilla.
Great video, I believe you
In Moonglow spec you have enough Resto points to get 2/5 Improved Regrowth and its very worth it. Allows/Justifies you to go Super-Saiyan mode when you want to, and spam Max-Rank Regrowth. The ZG trinket is like Super-Saiyan mode too with Healing Touch, but when it's on cooldown you can pay a heavy mana cost to do the same thing with Regrowth. The situation where you will want to do this comes up A LOT.
Also before classic I felt like moonglow was a lame raidlogger raid spec, and it was HOTW that would be more fun. But ultimately I found it was the opposite; moonglow is by far the best wpvp spec of these 4 reasonably min-maxed raid healer specs. (Only for ganking though; HOTW and Swiftmend are definitely better for Warsong Gultch.)
Swiftmend is a pvp ability imo. It's great. Makes you pretty much invincible in 1v1 against any class. But only good for short fights.
Awesome video. Makes me wonder how versatile a Holy Paladin can be now. It feels like a great day to subscribe!
I'd love to see the last spec at work, but not very popular apparently xD
Man epic vid :) defs gonna try the feral/resto spec out!!
Great overview! Do you have a down casting healing video? Also what's your recommended tree for 5 and 10 man healing?
If you were to duo level with 2 druids, which 2 specs would you run?
Just bear, heal every time someone bout to die.
these resto specs are horrible until endgame. if two druids are going to duo, level both as feral. one can focus on bear form, the other can focus on cat. At 40 when you both get heart of the wild, one can pick up int/spi gear to take advantage of the +20% int buff and go to swiftmend to finish leveling as resto. the other can lean into bear form and go towards omen of clarity to level as a tank.
What did you end up going with?
@@kus88 feral for levelling is the most efficient, also makes you a great dungeon tank:)
@@johnrasmussen8976 I am aware, I wanted to know what he went with in the duo.
What about moonglow omen of clarity cat.
Nice content for my drood :p thanks
Since I’m dungeon grinding I think ima grab sub cause the early stages I grab a lot of threat and then ima respec for moonglow
That‘s not even all of the specs. There‘s at least one more, which is the 8-12-31 PvP-Resto-Spec with Natural-Shapeshifter, Feral-Charge and Swiftmend.
My fav spec too
hi, great guide. One note: i dont see the point that you are making that one should take Faerie Fire (feral) when choosing the HoT spec. Faerie Fire is available as a spell when you are caster, and assuming you are healing you already have that. The FF (feral) is needed when you are tanking/dps as feral
That's exactly it, you can tank (5 dungeons at least...maybe OT raids) so having Feral Faerie Fire would be a must in those situations
What rank rejuvs and regrowths do you qll use. I use rank 4 healing touch and max rank for big spikes of damage.
Super helpful! Thank you v much :-)
τελικά τι spec αποφάσισες; εγώ εχω σχετικά καλό gear και moonglow spec, αλλά τώρα σκέφτομαι να το γυρίσω σε swiftmend(deep resto) ή hot spec (regrowth+nature's grace) επειδή στο AQ40 raid έχει πολύ απότομο damage
To moonglow spec λειτούργησε όνειρο στο AQ40, χρησιμοποιώντας το CD συχνά. Καλή επιτυχία :-)
swfitmend does not cost 20% of base mana, it costs me about 300 mana to use it and I get 1200 healing from max rejuv
Can't wait for my T2 to play the HoT build.
Amazing video :o!!!
I don't get why you need to have FF (feral) when you get FF in base form? And it's the same armor reduction
Do you still play and if so is this still your favorite spec ?
Hello what is the best Spec with Pre Equip for Raiding MC Phase One?Is it Swiftmend for Tank Healing or other one?What ist the best spec for Raidhealing?Sorry for my English writing
I watched another one of your videos where it seemed like your haven’t played a Druid at 60? Have you tried all these builds?
I should add, I thank you for providing the content- it’s thought provoking for me. I just curious how many raiding Druids actually use the 0/30/21 build because I thought the stat priority was healing power, mp5, spirit then int
If you add 20% to your base intellect, you need less regen because of the larger pool and increased crit chance. But you could prioritize spirit or mp5 as your stats, and still have the mana pool needed due to the 20% increase.
Mp5? Surely that's for pallies and shamans?
So is heart of the wild able to heal in 5 man's and raids?
You can heal 5 mans with no talents
Heart of the wild might be the best. you spend 5 points into that 10% healing talent but it only gives you 5% healing overall. Heart of the wild is nuts
Hi TJ! Any recommendation on the gear stats? I know a lot of people say HP first etc.. But when leveling (51) what if i have a pants with 40HP or a pants with 20 intellect/15 spirit etc.. What would be best?
Honestly pure HP is simply for raiding. Gear with higher intellect and spirit is all around better for world instances and questing. HP is BiS for resto druid in a raid setting. If you aren't raiding, hold onto the HP gear incase you dont get an upgrade by the time you're doing mc or ony, or for dungeons, but outside of instances use the better intellect and spirit gear
good luck getting moonfire as one of the 16 dots in a raid
MF and IS is meant to be used through solo farming, not for doing dmg in raids
plz i need to know whenn it is viable to respecc while leveling as in when i can stop going feral i am currenntly 52 should i wait till 60 or?
I'm planning to level on a pvp server. Moon glow or heart of the wild seems viable. Which would you recommend?
Which spec do you recommend for leveling, dungeons on a PvP server?
14-32-5 With improved Thorns and Omen of Clarity.
I'm using Moonglow right now but I have other druids in raid with me that are Swiftmend spec. I love the spec but the problem I keep having is that their Rejuvs are more powerful than mine so when they HoT up my assignment, they knock mine off by overwriting it and keep me from being able to put it up. It's very frustrating and it wastes my mana.
Using Hotw build and I feel you 😫 same situation here, u should get assigned to Tanks maybe, or have groups divided amongst the druid?, organize it a bit more, it saves alot of mana on all healers. But with your build maybe tank healing is better.
@@Vonulrich Thank you for the advice but the problem has solved itself. At the time of the posting we were taking the same pugs every week and combining raid with another guild. We have since grown large enough that it's no longer necessary and I am now the only resto druid in our current raid. I was assigned to tank heal but that didn't stop them from throwing HoTs up on my tank target which is where the frustration was coming from.
in your opinion what would be the better raid healing spec between moonglow or HOTW
Moonglow for me once you get decent gear heart of the wild carries you first phase since your gear isn't great
Is all this still accurate for phase 5?
So with the Heart of the Wild Spec I can still be able to tank?
I think so. I think it's like Skarms tank healing build and he's a top druid tank. Just gotta be geared for either one.
You can but your are gimping your threat ability from not taking natural weapons. 10% more damage before the treat modifier.
Your talent calculator is fucked beyond belief. At level 60, the cost of Swiftmend is 249 mana. It's slightly less expensive than Healing Touch rank 5. Wearing dungeon blues, it costs about 5% of total mana.
does the first spec work good for pvp too?
There's definitely points you can move around in the balance tree:)
Can HoTs and DoTs crit?
In a word, no.
Which is better/faster for solo pve MG or HotW?
HotW for sure. Moonglow has great damage too, but your forms will always be more mana efficient.
For solo pve your could tailor those feral points leading to hotw for cat form:)
TL:DR
Healing Touch is the overall best spec. (moonglow)
Regrowth spec is very late game but has better HPS. (Hot druid)
HotW is the worst but you can tank. (Hybrid)
Last spec is the tank healing only spec, pretty much. (Swiftmend) Not many high lvl druids play this because natures swiftness already is the "oh shit" button.
Im so glad that im not going with any of your talent specs, been best drood heal for so long..A druid don't heal MT in radis, the Priests does, you heal the priests and the raid
This isnt a warrior build at all
As a future Resto Druid in classic, I’m really glad to have found your channel on here!
This video was very useful. I did find another build that claimed was good for both PvP, PvE, and even tanking dungeons and wanted to get your feedback on it. It’s 8/12/31 and can be found on this video at 09:33 ua-cam.com/video/EEqIxqdWMgE/v-deo.html
HOTW or gtfo
To thorn or not to thorn