5 BIGGEST SCAMS In Whiskey!

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  • @BubblebathBourbon
    @BubblebathBourbon 3 роки тому +60

    there is one thing that costs me a ton of money, its not actually a scam though. its just watching whiskeytube and then wanting to buy ALL THE BOTTLES.

  • @ryanthompson2834
    @ryanthompson2834 3 роки тому +10

    The hidden distillery is one of my personal biggest hated. I love supporting local businesses. So when I got into real bourbon (not just jack and coke) I would try and do the local distillery thing. Not knowing that the high priced whiskey wasn’t made in the distillery I just walked around (not all are this way but so many). I still frequent places that do source but now I try and ask where they source from and try and remove that vail for others around me.

  • @jamesn5625
    @jamesn5625 3 роки тому +20

    I've seen some liquor stores get creative with their unicorn allocations, like doing charity auctions and in store tastings of their Pappy/BTAC bottles just to keep it out of the hands of scalpers.

    • @saltydog6241
      @saltydog6241 3 роки тому +4

      A liquor store local to me just puts them in a glass case for outrageous prices. I’d much prefer a lottery even if they sold tickets to make the markup they’re after.

  • @jeffreyrollins3915
    @jeffreyrollins3915 3 роки тому +22

    Distributors are the biggest scam! Holding back bottles!

    • @tde2019
      @tde2019 3 роки тому

      Amen. It's absolute bullshit. I don't spend enough time or money at a single mom and pop liquor store to build enough of a connection to ever have an allocated bottle sold to me. Most of the bottles in my collection are from large chain grocers and some from Costco but of course that way of purchasing will never score me an allocated.

  • @whatsinaname6745
    @whatsinaname6745 3 роки тому +6

    I finally saw a bottle of Pappy 20 last night $2500, Weller Special Reserve $110, Elijah Craig Toasted Barrel $95, ECBP $99, Blantons single barrel $225.... Bad Liquor store is an understatement!!!!!
    That being said. In my area of MA I’ve gotten all of those bottles for retail at my local mom & pop. It was just my first Pappy sighting!

    • @TheGuitarplaya13
      @TheGuitarplaya13 2 роки тому

      Yeah I just paid $85 for toasted Elijah not too long ago. Thought it was pretty pricy but I still bought it because I never see it in Ohio. I don’t even think it’s released here

  • @richk3325
    @richk3325 Рік тому +1

    One bad thing about the secondary market is you could unknowingly trade someone a counterfeit and if they get sick from it, your family could be in danger...Best just buy from licenced dealers and protect yourself....

  • @KevinJones-he9ps
    @KevinJones-he9ps 3 роки тому +10

    $600 for a big boy Stagg at a shop I walked in last week. $200 for a EH Taylor SB. That's absolutely insane.

    • @nicholasbrandimarte2712
      @nicholasbrandimarte2712 3 роки тому +1

      Most I spent was $80

    • @jamesjutte6119
      @jamesjutte6119 3 роки тому

      @@nicholasbrandimarte2712 idk if its worth the 80

    • @adamthomas9107
      @adamthomas9107 3 роки тому

      Local store has Stagg jr, and all the Kosher bottles for $140. I've done it, but enjoy the hunt now...

  • @danielkerber100
    @danielkerber100 3 роки тому +35

    Biggest Scam in WhiskeyTube: Dan telling people he is 31. We all know he’s double that.

  • @henryoddsball2164
    @henryoddsball2164 3 роки тому +2

    #5, the whole system is screwed. In my area there are people who follow the delivery trucks and allocated whiskey is always gone in 20-30 minutes. Guarantee at least 50% of that is going to secondary. So why wouldn’t the stores jack the prices at the max? I saw eagle rare on the shelf this week....for $69. Oof

  • @rob0tic931
    @rob0tic931 3 роки тому +9

    "Literally, with an asterisk, FREE" lmao good shit.

  • @hazenjonas
    @hazenjonas 3 роки тому +5

    Great video! When you mentioned celebrity whiskies I felt really bad thinking about Nick Offerman’s Lagavulin and I’m very pleased he was given a pass. The video of him drinking Lagavulin next to a fireplace plays on my TV for much of the holidays.

    • @BourbonJunkies
      @BourbonJunkies  3 роки тому +3

      Nick Offerman is a legend and NAILED the "celebrity" whiskey category. If others would follow his lead it would be a great category!

    • @trackvol
      @trackvol 3 роки тому +1

      @@BourbonJunkies what are your thoughts on the Matthew McConaughey WT collaboration, Longbranch?

  • @adamwright4262
    @adamwright4262 3 роки тому +2

    The allocation game sucks for the consumer and the honest sellers. It's so much worse in a large market (I'm in SoCal) where there are a lot of consumers with a lot of money. The local asking prices for BTAC, Blanton's, EH Taylor, Elmer T. Lee, Old Forester Birthday, etc., are obscene. You don't want to know about Pappy. Even the more reasonable allocated bottles can have big spikes. I picked up a bottle of ECBP (C919) for $70 at my local shop, but I've seen others asking $90, $99, $129. Not happening. The shops that try to hold the price down get played out quickly, of course, or they simply don't get much product. I try to patronize those stores that keep the prices down, even if it is hard to catch them when the allocated bottles are on the shelf.

  • @Loot_Train
    @Loot_Train 3 роки тому +30

    “You need to buy a bottle at least once a week here before we will even consider selling you an allocation” - So, I need to be an alcoholic for you to give me what I want?

    • @brandon_sprague
      @brandon_sprague 3 роки тому +10

      I mean to be fair, no one is saying you have to finish the bottle you buy within that week.

    • @dylanvickers7953
      @dylanvickers7953 3 роки тому +6

      No just rich with lots of free time

    • @brandon_sprague
      @brandon_sprague 3 роки тому +4

      @@dylanvickers7953 ​ from experience a majority of stores that tell you this are just trying to weed out the people that come in, look around, ask for Pappy/Weller, and buy nothing unless they get something allocated. I will say though man I am anything but rich and don't take a ton of time "hunting" bourbon. Doesn't stop me from stopping into my local once every couple of weeks and chat up the owner a bit. If I buy a bottle great, if I dont buy anything also great. Guess what still get a chance at getting allocated bottles. Kindness goes along way at most stores.
      Sure you may run into the store that will only sell bottles to their whales but hey they decided its worth it to them to not lose out on 5k-10k of sales for the couple hundred bucks me or you are going to spend, but clearly that isnt the store for you.

    • @B1gC4st
      @B1gC4st 3 роки тому

      Yes actually!

    • @caseymcleod1106
      @caseymcleod1106 3 роки тому +3

      I try to buy a bottle weekly plus bring samples. They call and text me when the bottles I’m looking for come in. Also, let me try their picks before I buy one. I mean the term “regular” isn’t a new concept. Frequent flyer miles, punch out cards, store rewards. Buy more and you get the perks and you make new friends. Maybe get invited to a barrel pick.

  • @IndyGuy65
    @IndyGuy65 3 роки тому +5

    Great information and advice. I just stay with my reliable supermarkets and liquor stores in my area.

  • @BretSimmons
    @BretSimmons 3 роки тому +3

    Strongly concur with scam #5. Just as bad as marking it up in store is holding it in a back room and placing a phone call to someone the retailer has a "relationship" with. That person is just as likely to "flip" the bottle on the secondary market instead of drinking and enjoying it. I know a dude who brags he drinks for free because he gets the allocated bottles and then just flips them. He claims everyone does it and I say BS. Best retail practice is put all bottles on the shelf, fair retail price, first come, first served.

  • @HotButteryRolls
    @HotButteryRolls 3 роки тому +7

    I would add point systems to this list. Making me buy $1500 worth of shelf turds (no offense Shelf Turds™️) to score ANY allocated items is horse s***. This trend seems to be increasing and I hate it.

    • @johncannon3593
      @johncannon3593 3 роки тому +1

      I’ve never seen or heard of that in my area, but it sounds like Bullshido.

    • @HotButteryRolls
      @HotButteryRolls 3 роки тому

      @@johncannon3593 it’s heavy Bullshido.

  • @KHLthe2nd
    @KHLthe2nd 3 роки тому +4

    I came here for the intros... LOL you guys are so entertaining and informative. Keep up the excellent work because I've already learned so much in my early journey.

  • @chocobunbun
    @chocobunbun 2 роки тому +1

    The bad stores is a hit or miss.
    There are 3 big chain stores in my area
    Wb liqour
    Feldmans
    And specs
    Wb shoots the price of even cheap whiskies by $5
    Don't even think of buying a higher end there.
    Feldman and specs are the same company specs just has more high end items
    They keep their stuff fairly balanced unless they're on a shortage.

  • @coachrickvice2643
    @coachrickvice2643 3 роки тому +2

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  • @derekharmon2242
    @derekharmon2242 3 роки тому +7

    Great video guys! It's unfortunate that these things happen. It's tainting the whiskey community and doing a disservice to the whiskey lovers.

  • @tracyperry6231
    @tracyperry6231 3 роки тому +1

    We have a case of #5 (in fact all our stores fit this bill in one case or another) on some of the liquors. Issue is that if you want to get it anywhere near MSRP you have to drive 4 1/2 hours round trip to the nearest big store. The nearest "mid-size" liquor store is 1 hour round trip away, and they have some of their stuff marked up at higher than what one would consider normal (over MSRP). In Texas we have wet and dry counties. I happen to live in a wet county, but all the surrounding counties are dry and the nearest larger stores are in Dallas so they have a fairly captive clientele. Case in point, only 1 store (within an hour drive) has E.W. Taylor Small Batch, and they had it priced at $99.99. Nearest other store that had it in stock was in Dallas, and it was $60 there. By the time you account for the gas, wear & tear on your vehicle and time it's just as cheap to buy it locally - but you are still getting gouged. It really takes away from your enjoyment of the juice at times.

  • @garyfranchy7726
    @garyfranchy7726 3 роки тому +7

    What about buying a whiskey based on recommendations from a reviewer that may receive compensation or other considerations from the distilleries?

    • @BourbonJunkies
      @BourbonJunkies  3 роки тому +7

      I think what also needs to be taken into consideration is are they being honest? It comes back to transparency. If they were paid for the review and they've been known to pad reviews/be paid off then that's for sure a scam if they aren't mentioning they are being paid for the review. If you trust them whether they are paid or not then I'd so no, it's not a scam. Dads Drinking Bourbon has bottles and samples sent to them from distillery's and they are VERY open about it and often they don't like what they get and are honest, so I trust them completely when it comes to things like that.

  • @Bruhstorfer
    @Bruhstorfer 3 роки тому +1

    I found a liquor store our here in the Chicago Burbs that plays the distribution game uniquely. You can A) Buy an allocated Bottle (say OWA) for $150 solo OR B) Pay $75 net in a package with 3 or 4 other bottles ($120 total) they have to move in order to get allocated stuff. They are shifting some of the burden on the customer which I'm okay with. If I get OWA for a reasonable markup and also get to try some other stuff while helping out the store move some product at the same time, thats a win-win.

  • @rookscorner8670
    @rookscorner8670 3 роки тому +8

    There is a store here in Daytona Beach, FL that has Elmer for $500, Blantons for $150, Stagg jr. is $300 and Pappy 20 is $2500. When I told him I would do no more then $75 on the Blantons he laughed and said if you don’t buy it someone else will. So until people stop paying these crazy prices they will remain ridiculous

    • @LeatherDaddy97
      @LeatherDaddy97 3 роки тому +1

      Florida has a lot of insane markups on whiskey

    • @davidrios4958
      @davidrios4958 3 роки тому

      Same with California. $300 for a green label toasted bottle of Michters. It's normally $90. I want it but am not stupid enough to buy it at that price. They have a lot of big named bottles for 3-4 more times expensive than regular price.

    • @dewke67
      @dewke67 3 роки тому

      You're right. In a local group people were falling all over themselves to find GTS for $500. Blame the secondary all you want, but it's no different from paying it in a store. I'd rather have it delivered to my house than spend time and money driving all over to see secondary prices.

    • @LeatherDaddy97
      @LeatherDaddy97 3 роки тому +1

      @@dewke67 imo you shouldnt pay either. Gts is not a $500 whiskey. I cant think of a whiskey i would pay 500 for

    • @dewke67
      @dewke67 3 роки тому

      ​@@LeatherDaddy97 I wouldn't either, but some local people here will. It's their money, but until people stop doing that the prices won't come down. It's a perfect demonstration of market economics at play.

  • @DatGuy960
    @DatGuy960 3 роки тому +3

    Love you guys and pretty much go along with your choices. I caught my local store trying mark up a bottle of BT. They wanted $100 for a bottle of BT. Keep the content coming. It also doesn't hurt that you're Michigan guys.

  • @RADFLIKINCRRQT13
    @RADFLIKINCRRQT13 3 роки тому +7

    I went into a small boutique looking liquor store here in Miami Fl. Owned by Columbians who i could tell don't know the first thing about whiskey, yet they had one bottle of T.H. Handy Sazerac behind the counter up on a shrine of a glass box with lights shining on it and the bottle was nestling on a plush pillow (true story) the price tag.... $899.99
    I actually laughed out loud as i walked in and saw it. Maybe why they weren't helpful to me at all while i was there

    • @michaellazo5363
      @michaellazo5363 3 роки тому +2

      Lol damn sounds like a store I need to completely avoid when I go down to Miami I went to a store a couple weeks ago in west palm beach and they had blantons for $180 when they had it on their website for $80 and that’s the only reason I drove half an hour to their store and then I saw a blantons gold for $999.99 up top behind the counter right next to a pappy and didn’t even want to look at the pappys price my girl told me to bring up the website and they said it was google putting that price and a bunch of bullshit I looked at the guy laughed in his face thanked him for wasting my time pointed at the blantons gold laughed even harder and walked out rip off scammer

    • @RADFLIKINCRRQT13
      @RADFLIKINCRRQT13 3 роки тому +1

      @@michaellazo5363 wow man smh.. Yea worst part was the bait & switch on pricing. That is truly F'd up. I know another spot where the guy doesn't even label the allocated bottles he hides in a cabinet. And if you ask he'll pull a blantons out and say ummmmm.. $150? He told my 2 friends and myself, all different prices on different days. Needless to say, we don't go back anymore. Just don't sit well doing scummy business but to some they couldn't care less

  • @darthjeff8288
    @darthjeff8288 3 роки тому +2

    Local store in my area trying to sell normal Blantons on "sale" for $180 down from $240. I showed her a website where I could have it delivered to my house for $160 (still a ripoff), and she just scoffed. I find Blantons at other local stores for retail often enough that I'm in zero danger on going dry.

    • @arnicolini
      @arnicolini 3 роки тому

      Where do you live? :) Thinking about moving!!

  • @KJfreshh69
    @KJfreshh69 3 роки тому +2

    Any time I comment on any bourbon post on Instagram about wanting to get a bottle of pappy, Elmer... someone always comments and says” we have that send us a dm for details” I always go look at their profile and see that they just created their profile 2 days ago.... so I never fall for any of those scams

  • @BroItsTJ
    @BroItsTJ 2 роки тому +1

    Just was in a store today in northern IL and they had E. H. Taylor barrel proof for $600. 😱. Regular Blanton single barrel $189. Blantons Green label $400😱Even a normal Buffalo Trace bottle was $50. Yeah crazy prices.

  • @58lukum
    @58lukum 3 роки тому +5

    Store in NJ I saw last year have a bottle of Weller full proof for $700. I just looked at the price and said “hm”

    • @Bluezee1
      @Bluezee1 3 роки тому

      I was at a store in backwater Missouri and saw the same bottle for 600.00. I want but not for that price!

    • @trackvol
      @trackvol 3 роки тому

      @58lukum I live in NJ. I know which store you're talking about. I believe they have a CYPB for $600 too.

  • @AzSipp
    @AzSipp 3 роки тому +1

    I think the market price for Buffalo trace sazerac rye in most states is ridiculous. In CA it’s $22 for 750ml but in AZ it’s $42, absolutely ridiculous

  • @SchumacherAcosta
    @SchumacherAcosta 3 роки тому +4

    Club / Group Barrel Picks - need scrutiny - Most are great but been a burned a few times from the final product being hot garbage because the people picking them don't know what they are doing or some collect money but can't legally get the pick because of state liquor laws. Do your research on these picks and who is picking them!

    • @lanewilharm5274
      @lanewilharm5274 3 роки тому +1

      Or getting a pick slapping a sticker and wax and its instantly x10 value on secondary

  • @jamesbates2696
    @jamesbates2696 3 роки тому +2

    So agreed with celebrity whiskey. I bought and thought I loved wild turkey longbranch, even made a comment on your channel. Lol, what a newbie I was cause then I had wild turkey 101 which is half the price and it blew me away.

  • @SA12String
    @SA12String 2 роки тому +1

    Templeton Rye "small batch" "prohibition era" "Al Capone's favorite" comes to mind. It's MGP. They got sued. Had to refund a couple million dollars and agree to put "Distilled in Indiana" on the bottles after claiming to have been made in Iowa for years.

  • @whiskeyscambaiter8755
    @whiskeyscambaiter8755 2 роки тому

    Thanks for making this video. I scambait scammers on Twitter and go after fake websites to shut them down.

  • @arnoldmariani6136
    @arnoldmariani6136 3 роки тому +2

    Good job, plus no whiskey juggling.I almost makes me cry thing about you guys dropping a bottle.

  • @richl172
    @richl172 3 роки тому +3

    After some of the reviews I've read, starting to wonder if some "duty free exclusives", are just whiskey that didn't make the grade. Won't stack up in the stores, so we'll make it "exclusive" and bam...problem fixed. Maybe not a scam, but feeling scammed lol.

  • @aaronstaebell
    @aaronstaebell 3 роки тому +3

    “$200 mystery whiskey. Bold move.” 😂😂😂

  • @justgreg8270
    @justgreg8270 3 роки тому +20

    Really gotta go take a picture of that George t stag the guy has tagged at a grand lol, also was in another store and was told very firmly that Evan Williams bib doesn't come in a 1.75 so i left and came back with one to prove his ass wrong. By far bad stores are the worst thing on this list for me.

  • @colina1330
    @colina1330 3 роки тому +3

    I whole-heartedly trust Nick Offerman to lend his name to a quality product, especially when it's Lagavulin. I need to get my hands on that.

  • @erikhetzler6361
    @erikhetzler6361 3 роки тому +11

    The way allocation works and the amount of bullshit vodka and wine and shit store owners have to buy to get that one allocated bottle is probably one of the most misunderstood/unknown things in the game. A lot of people go into stores, see that Pappy or BTAC marked up and throw a fit that the liquor store owner is trying to"rip" them off, without understanding that the store probably bought 5 billion bottles of crappy vodka and fireball that theyll struggle to sell just to get that bottle and theyre just trying to make some money back. Getting to know a store owner and hearing from his side the absolute pain in the ass it is to deal with the distributors fuck-fuck games to get allocated bottles was super eye opening for me.

    • @cy156
      @cy156 3 роки тому

      Ive heard to just get Henry McKenna you have to carry about 20 different brands and pass a survey for 12 bottles!

    • @SchimShady12
      @SchimShady12 3 роки тому +5

      As a business owner, why buy 5 billion bottles of liquor that people aren't going to buy for the right to 1 bottle that people will, "just to make some money back"? No way the profit on that 1 bottle makes up for the others. Doesn't seem like a smart business decision if that's the logic

    • @BourbonJunkies
      @BourbonJunkies  3 роки тому +2

      So of you don't wanna play their game they stop sending you stuff all together. They put the screws to store owners to sell their crap or none of it.

    • @SchimShady12
      @SchimShady12 3 роки тому +2

      @@BourbonJunkies That makes more sense. So, it's not buying for the right to an allocated bottle, it's buying for the right to keep buying

    • @erikhetzler6361
      @erikhetzler6361 3 роки тому +1

      @@SchimShady12 Basically yea, the distributors force the stores to buy their crappy stuff like random wines and vodka and fireball etc, to get the stuff they really want. You want to get an allocation of Blantons every month? Better really push wheatley vodka. Want EHT bottles? better move a bunch of fireball. The stores are at the complete mercy of the distributors when it comes to getting the stuff they really want.

  • @CWChandler1968
    @CWChandler1968 3 роки тому +1

    So I am laughing. My local store had a special bottle sales event for Fathers’ day. I payed $99 for the Stag you just said you can’t get for $100,I love it. Got so lucky! Can’t find any antique 2020 near me yet....trust me I am looking.

    • @BourbonJunkies
      @BourbonJunkies  3 роки тому +1

      I mean it happens, but it's not something that everyone will experience. Our first bottle of stagg was $300, no regrets tho

  • @stlbigbad23
    @stlbigbad23 2 роки тому

    One of the stores I went into while on the hunt yesterday had Weller Special Reserve at $109, Weller Antique 107 for $199, Blanton's Single Barrel for $249 and Pappy 12 Yr Lot B for $1549. Never going there again. Store owner seemed offended with how quickly I was in and out.

  • @patrickkirk5665
    @patrickkirk5665 3 роки тому +1

    Speaking of sounding like a scam (but isn't). Not sure if you guys have a line on the 2020 BTAC yet but I was able to score a 2020 GTS this week from a local raffle and would be happy to send it out with a return label for an early review if you both are interested. Keep up the great work gentlemen!

  • @LibertyNotLicense
    @LibertyNotLicense 3 роки тому +2

    Cline's swapping out that $300 AE with Malort was a pretty impressive whiskey scam!

  • @alekseymel7852
    @alekseymel7852 3 роки тому +2

    I also thought wild turkey longbranch was not bad at all. Got it as a gift and thought I'll hate it but it was good. About 35$ here South Fl.

    • @coleboozer4032
      @coleboozer4032 3 роки тому +1

      Longbranch is my favorite introductory bottle to recommend to people who are beginners in Whiskey variety. "Do you like Jack D? Do you like Wild Turkey? Try some Longbranch and see what you think."

    • @BourbonJunkies
      @BourbonJunkies  3 роки тому

      Hey this is fair, I forget about that bottle all the time. We have one and don't drink it often but I don't hate it. Cheers!

    • @Bluezee1
      @Bluezee1 3 роки тому

      I also received it as a gift and yeah I like it. 40.00 here in STL MO

  • @brianmccaffrey1291
    @brianmccaffrey1291 3 роки тому +4

    Totally agree on all of your points. Furthermore, I am all for the "free market" doing its thing. If a store owner has BTAC and people are willing to pay $500 for GTS then God Bless em. I won't patron that store, but if they can survive that way then great.

    • @BourbonJunkies
      @BourbonJunkies  3 роки тому +2

      The way I look at it, is you took a bottle of GTS away from an enthusiast (not always but it's likely) since the enthusiast may know it's value and someone with a ton of money walked in and was told it was special. It's great for the store but it's bad for the community of whiskey enthusiasts who open/drink/love their whiskey. That being said when a store sells a stagg jr for $200 and someone flips it for $500 that sucks for the store owners... There are definitely two sides to the situation.

    • @ErikBlack
      @ErikBlack 3 роки тому +5

      @@BourbonJunkies I've heard of a few rare stores that will sell allocations for near retail/reasonable markups or whatever, but the catch is you have to agree that they break the seal after you buy it but before you leave with it so its not as easy to flip on secondary. As someone who drinks and enjoys my whiskey, I wish this would become more common

    • @brianmccaffrey1291
      @brianmccaffrey1291 3 роки тому

      @@BourbonJunkies Agree!!! Also, Buffalo Trace could actually make / produce great quality juice that isn't allocated. You can't tell me that Rock Hill, ETL, Any EH Taylor other than small batch, and BTAC all have to be allocated and produced at such small offerings. I just can't believe that around 10-12 of their offerings have to be allocated.
      I know BT hates the secondary market, but how can they not make ETL as plentiful as Buffalo Trace Bourbon?

    • @brianmccaffrey1291
      @brianmccaffrey1291 3 роки тому

      @@ErikBlack Here in NC, and any other state that has their spirits "state controlled, we get all our stuff at MSRP. But because it is MSRP, you won't ever see anything quality juice on the shelf.
      Sometimes I like go to other states and actually see bottles of Pappy, ETL, and other unicorns...even if they are 2-4 times MSRP....it is nice to see the bottles and know they actually exist. LOL

  • @gunnerpoint1980
    @gunnerpoint1980 3 роки тому +1

    Sometimes I hate the "package only" items. They get there allocated bottles n just like u said they have to buy 20 cases of their other stuff that is not high movers. I'm ok with it sometimes, but after a while u can only have so many reg BT, very old barton, ECSB, etc....
    That's why I never understand why BT is sold out all the time.... I have 7 of them in the bottom of my closet I use it as mixers now!

  • @Mazimo
    @Mazimo 3 роки тому +8

    I guess I shouldn't be surprised people would buy unicorns off IG but that just screams stupid to me.

  • @tfldad
    @tfldad 3 роки тому +1

    A big part of this conversation is the existence of “state control” in some states and more free market, albeit distorted by distributors & allocation BS, in others. In Ohio Eagle Rare is fairly regularly shipped to liquor stores and the stores have no control over pricing. However, due to secondary pricing and the low quantities delivered to any one store the line sitters get all the ER or whatever other allocated stuff that comes in instantly. So in theoryI can buy ER for $32 but I’ve got to be willing to sit in line for it. Blanton’s is soooo much worse... so, I have every incentive to drive to Kentucky or Indiana to buy the stuff that is effectively unavailable here. All that just drives up prices in the free market states which is amplified by the distributor and allocation shenanigans.
    I think the liquor store owners may be getting the rawest deal here tho. My understanding is that the markup on liquor is peanuts compared to beer & wine in Ohio and, I assume, other “control” states. However, the stores have to take the merchandise because that’s what the state is sending them. If they want to sell higher margin wine, they need to sell the low margin stuff we want. In free market states the stores get strong armed into selling everything or shut out entirely...
    Makes me wonder if it’s even worth it for them. Getting 45 calls a day asking for Blanton’s, lines of profiteers outside their stores, getting bullied by your vendors, etc....

  • @jasono.1629
    @jasono.1629 3 роки тому

    Lol first 30 seconds was the funniest commercial I’ve seen. Your #5 is the one that scares me the most. A Yelp review of a liquor store here in southern CA said filling an old bottle of Blantons with something else and selling it for $150 happened to them.

  • @TheWhiskeyChannel
    @TheWhiskeyChannel 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome video, guys. Really enjoyed this one. Great editing, meaningful content, and 2 decent looking dudes delivering the goods. Appreciate ya.

  • @mybourbonjourney
    @mybourbonjourney 3 роки тому +3

    Yep.... NAILED IT

  • @trevorroth7054
    @trevorroth7054 3 роки тому

    Weller 107 $250 on the shelf. $500 buy in to be able to buy BTAC at secondary markup prices at my local shop.

  • @302outdoors2
    @302outdoors2 2 роки тому

    I’m in Delaware and was in a store 2 months ago that had Weller single barrel for $1500.

    • @BourbonJunkies
      @BourbonJunkies  2 роки тому

      Things are just a little on the wild side these days

  • @itsajourney2611
    @itsajourney2611 3 роки тому +6

    I would put Whiskey Tasting Channels as #6. Definitely a scam. :)

  • @logandrumhiller641
    @logandrumhiller641 3 роки тому +6

    I would firmly add any bourbon FB group with the name "finder" or "locator" in it. 99% of the time, it's used to brag about bottles likely received from an allocation or to ask if someone made the right decision in purchasing a bottle. And then you get the occasional scammer encouraging people to PM them for bottles on top of that.

  • @dieterlang2176
    @dieterlang2176 3 роки тому +3

    How about the store owners that don’t clearly mark their price. When you ask the price and you know it’s a gouge and balk they say” oh I’ll let you have that bottle at a discounted price, but you need to buy an additional two bottles. And I need you to pay cash”.

    • @BourbonJunkies
      @BourbonJunkies  3 роки тому +3

      1000000% this is another one for this list!

  • @Diebythirty
    @Diebythirty 3 роки тому +2

    Great video guys! Thanks for keeping it real like always

  • @ocdhead
    @ocdhead 3 роки тому

    I visited a store in Grand Junction, CO that had Weller 12 and Weller FP for $299 each, Elmer T Lee for $399 and Pappy 12 for $699. PASS! Also, several Twin Liquors in Texas bundle allocated bourbons with expensive wine, rum, etc. Packaging a $30-40 bottle of whiskey with a $100 bottle of wine or rum is just shitty.

  • @KennethRathburn
    @KennethRathburn 3 роки тому +2

    As far as celebrity whiskeys go, I actually like Longbranch and Heaven's Door. Got the former for $25 a couple months back and was pleasantly surprised. The latter is a bit overpriced but I enjoyed it.

    • @peaceandwealthseeker4504
      @peaceandwealthseeker4504 3 роки тому +2

      I know many hate in long branch but I just tried a pour and wondered what all the hate was for. It’s good neat and simple

    • @BourbonJunkies
      @BourbonJunkies  3 роки тому

      We're not large fans of the heavens door

    • @johndrews206
      @johndrews206 2 роки тому

      I love Heavens door.

  • @jimgd4
    @jimgd4 3 роки тому

    This is why I like dealing with Total Wine here in New Jersey. I have never paid over retail, and I have regularly gotten Blantons, Barrell, and plenty of other great whiskeys at reasonable prices. Have I gotten a Stagg? A Pappy? No. When I venture out for those, I'll have to watch for the incoming knives.

    • @BourbonJunkies
      @BourbonJunkies  3 роки тому +1

      Yea big boxes can do that cause they're already buying a million other things so they can drop stuff off at retail and not get any pressure of selling other things.

  • @drclem1215
    @drclem1215 3 роки тому +1

    I like the subvert flex on the Rocky Mountain Rye. 😂🥃

  • @lucasunruh6124
    @lucasunruh6124 3 роки тому +1

    Very agree with whoever mentioned Longbranch 👌

  • @sugarkitty4777
    @sugarkitty4777 3 роки тому +5

    As many downsides there are for the small producer, the "state stores" fix the whole allocation game. They put their quota in a lottery, and they're not allowed to gouge. The biggest problem with allocation is the big bullies are incenting the bad guys. The mom and pop usually wants to help people out and may not even be able to risk dead product. The large stores that sell that much anyway and yet STILL feel the need to sell $800 WLW are the ones that need to be straightened out.

    • @basshunter7181
      @basshunter7181 3 роки тому

      True but the State Store can select which of their locations sell what .
      Only tho in Ala. sell Buffalo Trace and they are in the same county .

  • @cok9348
    @cok9348 3 роки тому +1

    leave the coffee sips to crowder lol

    • @BourbonJunkies
      @BourbonJunkies  3 роки тому

      That guy's lost his mind recently 😂

    • @cok9348
      @cok9348 3 роки тому +1

      @@BourbonJunkies i dunno if id go that far. its looking like a lot of the things he's saying recently are legit.

  • @ncwagner88
    @ncwagner88 3 роки тому

    The markup on way aged bottles. I.e. Fancy marketing lines etc, its a 15yr but in actuality its not much better and might be worse than a 7 or 10yr but is double tge price? Why? Bc they kept tasting it, didn't fit right, years go by, then after the age gets really old, they say "hey lets sell it, market it to be fancy and over-priced" age/price isn't always a indicator of a good spirit. Are there good ones out there, sure, in all price points.

  • @agriostraining6838
    @agriostraining6838 3 роки тому +2

    Most silent flex I've seen! Just sliding a bottle of High West Wasatch Rye across the bar like its another day. Congrats gents

    • @BourbonJunkies
      @BourbonJunkies  3 роки тому +1

      Dan has done dirty things to get a bottle

  • @justinnicholson8372
    @justinnicholson8372 3 роки тому

    I have stopped shopping at stores that hold back allocations or are opaque about it. Small shops can do what they want, but I'd rather shop at Total Wine and know that I need to spend a specified amount and enter a lottery, etc.

  • @ranman1959
    @ranman1959 3 роки тому +3

    #6: Local FB groups where everyone thinks they're "friends" while they flip each other bottles at 2x the price. Often to the same people that helped them find it.

  • @ericzander7787
    @ericzander7787 11 місяців тому

    You know what's funny, I'd be willing to pay for lesser quality if it were priced right. What grinds my gears is the misrepresentation and inflated prices to match.

  • @ct9737
    @ct9737 3 роки тому +1

    I bought a bottle of Blanton’s almost month ago now and I paid to much 89.00,the only reason I bought it was I never see it here in Syracuse,also it was my Birthday.I still have buyers remorse though!

    • @Xander-dx6mw
      @Xander-dx6mw 3 роки тому +2

      Open it, pour your self a four finger glass, and the remorse will fade away. I cap out at $75 for Blanton's.

    • @jamesn5625
      @jamesn5625 3 роки тому

      Blanton's is one of my favorites so I would probably buy it for that much because I've gone a year or two without even seeing it on the shelf, but that's about my upper limit. Thankfully I've been able to snag it at $65 a few times recently.

    • @garyfranchy7726
      @garyfranchy7726 3 роки тому +2

      Everyone is allowed the occasional lapse into Taterland.

  • @BLAM777
    @BLAM777 3 роки тому +1

    Yeah like the blanton's at a liquor store in Lennox ma going for over 200 a bottle.

  • @ericparham1086
    @ericparham1086 3 роки тому +1

    Can confirm about terrible stores first hand. I saw a bottle of blanton's (just the regular single barrel) at a liquor store near me, and it was marked at $200. I asked the clerk if it was a special release, and he said no. I was more than offended that they'd sell a $65 bottle for such an awful markup. They also had Eagle Rare at $70, and Henry McKenna 10 bib at $100.

    • @LeatherDaddy97
      @LeatherDaddy97 3 роки тому

      Ew

    • @asko2677
      @asko2677 3 роки тому

      Got Henry McKenna 10 BiB for $40 at my military store (no markups, no tax)!

    • @arickbakken
      @arickbakken 3 роки тому

      They should shut a place down that is trying to sell Eagle Rare for $70.

    • @LeatherDaddy97
      @LeatherDaddy97 3 роки тому

      @@asko2677 that is a markup

    • @asko2677
      @asko2677 3 роки тому

      @@LeatherDaddy97 what’s the msrp on it? $40 seems a great deal.

  • @pilots85
    @pilots85 3 роки тому +1

    short, sweet, to the point. Good job.

  • @singlebarrelsnob
    @singlebarrelsnob 3 роки тому

    Sadly guys, MSRP isn’t a a standard it’s a suggestion. Why should joe liquor who’s struggling, leave meat on the bone to someone who’s buying to resell. When he can just mark it up and make the money himself. Great example. Look at WhistlePig they said “we’re talking all the money” and people gladly hand over the cash.
    Is it sucky? Sure but if someone has the money to throw at a bottle let them and we can just laugh and walk out the store.
    😉 cheers dudes🤙🏻

  • @B1gC4st
    @B1gC4st 3 роки тому +2

    Need a coin that covers the top of a Libbey or a Denver & Liely :P

  • @razldazle10
    @razldazle10 3 роки тому

    The store mark up thing happened with Macallan Edition No. 6 & it made me sick. All of the others from previous years editions were around $120 to $150 at total wine or another local store. Edition 6 was listed all over the internet to be about $130ish on release & total wine had all the stock because it was super allocated, at least in the beginning & the price is about $190 before tax. Irritating but, I wasn't going to have an incomplete set so I pulled the trigger but man it hurt. Also irritating because TW usually has pretty good prices compared to other stores around town.

  • @josephkordinak1591
    @josephkordinak1591 3 роки тому

    Found Reserve Bar, Most Prices are fair but Weller Special Reserve 150 for a liter, WTF . I picked up a case of handles for 40 a bottle I think.

  • @bearededbasurto8628
    @bearededbasurto8628 3 роки тому

    Seen a GTS behind the counter at a local store for $596!!

    • @rthilson
      @rthilson 3 роки тому

      I got mine in wi for $109

  • @WombatAnnihilator
    @WombatAnnihilator Рік тому

    What about when a celebrity is involved with liquor without their name, face, or signature on it, like Aviation Gin (Ryan Reynolds) or Mulholland Whiskey (Walt Goggins), or Longbranch (Matthew McConaughey).

  • @donke7171
    @donke7171 3 роки тому +2

    Stinky Pete and the Toothpick with more video gold, good on ya fellas, love the content!

  • @CrysIsntZen
    @CrysIsntZen 3 роки тому

    I was truly hesitant to buy the Offeeman.
    But that scotch with a steak is heaven on earth.
    Peppery, smokey heaven

  • @partyfarmer957
    @partyfarmer957 3 роки тому +2

    I agree, celebrity liquor anything is trash. Dwayne Johnson's (The Rock) tequila brand is GARBAGE.

  • @Ethernet480
    @Ethernet480 2 роки тому

    Don’t mind me…just fillin up some empty Balvenie 50s with some Ole’ Smokie

  • @gregsmith5132
    @gregsmith5132 3 роки тому

    They need to let the demand and price meet in the open market. If the market price for a whiskey is $250 don't allocate it at $100 retail then have secondary sell it for $500. I'd rather see it on the shelf for $250 and if I can afford it I can buy it. That removes the incentive for people to follow the delivery trucks to the liquor stores and buy up stuff they can resell at a higher price.

  • @dramchaser1022
    @dramchaser1022 3 роки тому

    There is a liquor store near me where they get a lot of allocated bourbons but, the prices are a different story. For example, two months ago they had a Rock Hill Farms single barrel selling for $180. A bit overpriced in my opinion... don’t you think?

    • @BourbonJunkies
      @BourbonJunkies  3 роки тому

      Sadly that's under secondary now but I wouldn't pay that for a RHF

  • @garykuhn1921
    @garykuhn1921 3 роки тому

    What did he say about Sazerac and Fireball? Y'all should visit the Sazerac House in New Orleans. Haven't seen any other whiskey YT'er visit there.

  • @blindsquirrelly
    @blindsquirrelly 3 роки тому +2

    It's just simple supply and demand. Do your homework and set limits. Don't like the price, move along. In general, whiskey is cheap, but whiskey is also a BOOMING industry right now, prices will continue to inflate until there is a natural middle price. Find yo sleeper hitter bargins mang!

  • @mikecofojohn168
    @mikecofojohn168 3 роки тому +24

    Longbranch is a solid celebrity juice. As for store owners, someone will buy it at that price! and that too is a scam. #fireSean #nailedit

    • @charlest8373
      @charlest8373 3 роки тому +5

      I tried to do as much research as I could on Longbranch. I love bourbon but McConaughey seemed too "genuine" when pitching this product and all the late nights and correspondence with the Russell boys at Wild Turkey, etc., etc . I must admit, even though I truly hate jumping on the "celebrity" bandwagon, I really like Longbranch.

    • @asanmartinjr07
      @asanmartinjr07 3 роки тому +1

      Long Branch & Wild Turkey are legit! "Alright, alright, alright..."

    • @davidbayse5320
      @davidbayse5320 3 роки тому

      Alright Alright

    • @tde2019
      @tde2019 3 роки тому

      ​@@charlest8373 Is Longbranch a unique pour? I've eyeballed it for a few months now but haven't pulled the trigger

  • @frankmastromauro5630
    @frankmastromauro5630 3 роки тому

    Thanks for this video and your others - great content

  • @BrandtHambrick
    @BrandtHambrick 3 роки тому

    Sweetens Cove is George Dickel BiB 13. Identical flavor profile, including the Flintstones.

    • @BourbonJunkies
      @BourbonJunkies  3 роки тому

      which we hate, so we weren't about it at all

  • @deckerhand12
    @deckerhand12 3 роки тому +1

    What about the fb groups or market pages that are by the month clubs. The ones that clam to send you samplers and a bottle ones a month

  • @drewwidlak533
    @drewwidlak533 3 роки тому

    Thought the whole accelerated aged whiskey market would be a scam. Bought a bottle just to try it. It was undrinkable, so I gave it to my son in law !

  • @swmellodees
    @swmellodees 3 роки тому

    So I’m “back home” this weekend and as usual spend a day cruising different liquor stores looking for things I like. The markup... ugh. Any of the BTAC were st $1000-1300, old rip 10 yr $600. Lot B $1000+. The most baffling.. Eagle Rare I saw with it 20 miles of each other at $29.99, $49.99, and $89.99!l. Stores with “Limit 1 per” for Buffalo Trace, meanwhile the EC Batch Strength falls of the shelves. Back home, batch strength is nigh impossible to find. Now, I don’t begrudge the mark up.. to an extent. These owners are being fleeced by distributors (on told me to get 3 Weller Antiques he had to accept 10 cases of crappy vodka...). One of the more amusing price tags was on a bottle of Elmer T, $249 or $89 with the purchase of a case of 1.75 bottles of Wheatley vodka. The other thing owners tell me is they see the secondary market prices and think “I can get me some of that”. Can’t say I blame them as long as people will pay that. But it has truly gotten out of hand... there’s lots of good bourbons on the $40 and under shelf that just don’t have the “names”.

  • @DabFiend710
    @DabFiend710 3 роки тому +3

    I posted my whiskey wall on Instagram and now I get DM scams like once a week

  • @KJfreshh69
    @KJfreshh69 3 роки тому

    So I still need to know where to find the good bourbon that I want if everything seems a scam and stores don’t ever get it! I need some good friends like y’all so I can come try these!

  • @arickbakken
    @arickbakken 3 роки тому +1

    You guys missed the pedestrian rip off of living in an ABC state and wanting to buy regular, everyday whiskey at a fair price. Over the course of a year, you can easily piss away $100 in stupid mark-ups and tax.

  • @IncognitoCPA
    @IncognitoCPA 3 роки тому +1

    I see the Proud Hound coffee in the background. What's your favorite roast?

    • @BourbonJunkies
      @BourbonJunkies  3 роки тому

      This is more of a Dan question I feel, but we just got our first bag of it the other day. Can't remember the roast but the coffee is excellent.

  • @williamleidy6713
    @williamleidy6713 3 роки тому

    Stag Jr $250 and not even behind the check out . Just setting on the wire shelf like nobody's business. SMH ....$150 and it walks out the door with me.