Honestly I don't know. The version I had in this video came pre-installed with a Gate and Speed trigger and it SLAAPPPPED. My limited knowledge of teching doesn't see why you can't DSG this because there's nothing specific to the buffer tube or anything in the buffer that you'd need to mess with. This does feel kinda weird as a fast shooter because of the recoil so I feel like the reason more dudes DSG guns wouldn't really jive well but if you're looking to DSG it as a way of adding high quality internals, I'd imagine you'd be just fine.
@@CaberUp Thanks. I'm planing to get this T10 and upgrade it, but the recoil + dsg build sounds strange... A lot of stress would damage the gearbox maybe... Idk, kinda new in builds and tech
HBB Gaming yeah I was amazed by it .. I just want to let you know this thing out of the box is not like that it had a titan and a speed trigger in it as well . Am I correct James?
Jason Mark I don’t think it was upgraded at all. I have the qrf mod 1 and it is nice but the fact is they both probably have the same hop up and many of the internals are also the same, probably even has the same trigger lol. It would basically perform the same but with a blowback action. The only thing is as much as I want this gun I don’t know that it would be smart to buy it because I have a gun that performs the same at a cqb length with great trigger response and hop up and that I can hit targets 180 feet away in one shot. It would pretty much be me buying the same gun for $400 for a blowback action and it’s longer so harder to use in a cqb game. But it is such a nice gun and if I hadn’t already bought the qrf I would have for sure bought this, though it isn’t really worth it now. I am not saying anything against the qrf it is just that I love blowback action!
It comes down to personal preference. Since both styles offer the same features, I would think it comes down on the look for example like the mags. I own a t6 and I love it so much. Super accurate, such a clean sound, the weight of it is good( unless you are weak to carry 6 pounds), and the feel. I’ve been playing with my stock t6 for about 8 months now and it’s still kicking ass although I have lots of upgrades to install but not until something breaks. The one thing in my books that’s a plus is the stock rails when using a dye i4 mask. It helps to aim down with whatever red dot or holographic sights by wedging my cheek( left or right) in between the rails.
Ivan Vargas I own a qrf it is the same internals and mostly externals as a t6 but running 9mm mags and I also love it! Like you said it is accurate (I can hit targets about 180 feet away at most) also sounds good. My gun broke recently (air nozzle chip from the gun falling off a table) and tried to fix it myself but messed it up worse now the safety won’t work you can’t switch to full auto and the charging handle won’t lock back. Because of the corona virus it will be a while before I can play and before my gun gets back from the shop. But this gun is amazing the best platform I have ever used very accurate and everything. I’m wondering if the t10 is more accurate than the t6 and qrf though. I bet they are similar because they of course have the same hop up I am assuming
Recoil system makes it impossible. The pistol the generates the recoil is in the buffer tube which wouldn't really make the VSB system worth it. They come deans wired.
@@CaberUp I ended up ordering the t10 and it uses a Small Tamiya connection, I think yours had the gate titan in it so that's probably why it used a deans.
@Maxim Norinsberg I bought a small (mini) tamiya Valken Airsoft Battery - LiPo 11.1v 1200mAh 20c Split Style (butterfly), from what i've been told pretty much anything fits in the crane stock though.
Maxim Norinsberg yup mine came In a few days ago so that’s where I’m getting that info from. I’m pretty sure he had deans because there was a gate titans installed which is a deans connection.
Caber Up ok, I am just used to shooting 12 gauge shotguns and when the one guy said that he wasn’t expecting the recoil I thought maybe it might be a little bit of good hard kick lol I have shot gas blowback pistols and they feel like a very weak 22 rifle
@@harryharvey1057 The recoil is not comparable to a 12 guage at all. Closer to a .223 but still not that close. Its awesome to have though and once you have a gun with it you wont want to go back to no recoil.
Will this T10-SBR recoil be able to build as a dsg? Or does the recoil not make it viable?
Honestly I don't know. The version I had in this video came pre-installed with a Gate and Speed trigger and it SLAAPPPPED. My limited knowledge of teching doesn't see why you can't DSG this because there's nothing specific to the buffer tube or anything in the buffer that you'd need to mess with.
This does feel kinda weird as a fast shooter because of the recoil so I feel like the reason more dudes DSG guns wouldn't really jive well but if you're looking to DSG it as a way of adding high quality internals, I'd imagine you'd be just fine.
@@CaberUp
Thanks.
I'm planing to get this T10 and upgrade it, but the recoil + dsg build sounds strange... A lot of stress would damage the gearbox maybe... Idk, kinda new in builds and tech
This was a fantastic gun to use and I am buying it and cant wait to use it again
Thank you James for letting me get a chance to use it and KWA for building an amazing gun .. I will look forward to seeing these hit the market soon 👍
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Jason Mark lol I might even have to get one of these it is that good
HBB Gaming yeah I was amazed by it .. I just want to let you know this thing out of the box is not like that it had a titan and a speed trigger in it as well . Am I correct James?
Jason Mark I don’t think it was upgraded at all. I have the qrf mod 1 and it is nice but the fact is they both probably have the same hop up and many of the internals are also the same, probably even has the same trigger lol. It would basically perform the same but with a blowback action. The only thing is as much as I want this gun I don’t know that it would be smart to buy it because I have a gun that performs the same at a cqb length with great trigger response and hop up and that I can hit targets 180 feet away in one shot. It would pretty much be me buying the same gun for $400 for a blowback action and it’s longer so harder to use in a cqb game. But it is such a nice gun and if I hadn’t already bought the qrf I would have for sure bought this, though it isn’t really worth it now. I am not saying anything against the qrf it is just that I love blowback action!
Good work! I play at cqb city and ministry too!
Got the special edition it’s awesome ❤️
Does it have the cut off feature at the last shot?
With the gate titan, yes. Stock by itself? No.
Does it still have the mag lock out function from the SBR version?
You mean the shut off after 30 rounds? Not stock but if you drop a Gate in it, you can have that function.
Do you know if theres any videos with a fully upgraded one?
Depends on what upgrades you want but I have seen a few
I fully upgraded mine, happy to drop a parts list just lmk and I’ll take the time to
Not a speed build, trigger response is nice tho, ~ 20 rps @ 420-415 fps with .2
is this stock?
Yup
Idk if I want this or the krytac p90, I am excited for that, they made good changes
The P90 would be the move if you don't want another M4. If you wanted something a little more realistic than your normal AEG, T10 is the move
@@CaberUp I think im just gonna get one now and get the other later lol, I have an mtw I use as a dmr so I'm gonna grab the p90 for now
So what is better this or the qrf or the t6 in your opinion
It comes down to personal preference. Since both styles offer the same features, I would think it comes down on the look for example like the mags. I own a t6 and I love it so much. Super accurate, such a clean sound, the weight of it is good( unless you are weak to carry 6 pounds), and the feel. I’ve been playing with my stock t6 for about 8 months now and it’s still kicking ass although I have lots of upgrades to install but not until something breaks. The one thing in my books that’s a plus is the stock rails when using a dye i4 mask. It helps to aim down with whatever red dot or holographic sights by wedging my cheek( left or right) in between the rails.
Ivan Vargas I own a qrf it is the same internals and mostly externals as a t6 but running 9mm mags and I also love it! Like you said it is accurate (I can hit targets about 180 feet away at most) also sounds good. My gun broke recently (air nozzle chip from the gun falling off a table) and tried to fix it myself but messed it up worse now the safety won’t work you can’t switch to full auto and the charging handle won’t lock back. Because of the corona virus it will be a while before I can play and before my gun gets back from the shop. But this gun is amazing the best platform I have ever used very accurate and everything. I’m wondering if the t10 is more accurate than the t6 and qrf though. I bet they are similar because they of course have the same hop up I am assuming
Not wrong 🥳
I wouldn't say one is necessarily "better." It's just a matter of do you want a shorty M4 gun or something that looks different. Both are dope.
Caber Up so they are about the same performance? Just comes down to what you think looks better? And do you know how much the t10 costs?
Does the T10 still have the ability to adjust the fps or did the recoil system make that impossible? Also what kind of battery connection does it use?
Recoil system makes it impossible. The pistol the generates the recoil is in the buffer tube which wouldn't really make the VSB system worth it. They come deans wired.
@@CaberUp I ended up ordering the t10 and it uses a Small Tamiya connection, I think yours had the gate titan in it so that's probably why it used a deans.
@Maxim Norinsberg I bought a small (mini) tamiya Valken Airsoft Battery - LiPo 11.1v 1200mAh 20c Split Style (butterfly), from what i've been told pretty much anything fits in the crane stock though.
Maxim Norinsberg yup mine came In a few days ago so that’s where I’m getting that info from. I’m pretty sure he had deans because there was a gate titans installed which is a deans connection.
Maxim Norinsberg you should be fine with that battery. The stock the T10 uses is a PTS EPS crane stock with a ton of room.
Wow! So does this have the same hop as the qrf?
I honestly have no idea
Caber Up I would assume it’s similar then. Both are new KWA rifles. This ones blowback so it will be more accurate most likely
I want to shoot this thing once and see how much it recoils lol see how it compares to a real firearm
A REAL gun? No comparison. It's nothing like it.
Caber Up ok, I am just used to shooting 12 gauge shotguns and when the one guy said that he wasn’t expecting the recoil I thought maybe it might be a little bit of good hard kick lol I have shot gas blowback pistols and they feel like a very weak 22 rifle
Caber Up so what would this compare too? A very powerful blowback pistol?
@@harryharvey1057 The recoil is not comparable to a 12 guage at all. Closer to a .223 but still not that close. Its awesome to have though and once you have a gun with it you wont want to go back to no recoil.
Krombopulos Michael yeah I bet! I can’t believe it’s close to a 223 that’s still pretty tough kick for an airsoft gun
are there any seperate products that allow for full quad rails?
For the T10 on in general?
@@CaberUp yea