Skirting tip for flat plain skirting
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- How to join plain skirting on the internal corner to make a much nicer job and keep it all nice and true to each side, this simple rebate on one piece of skirting keeps both ends much more secure and stops twisting or bad alignment.
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Love this 👌when I done my time I was always told you never stop learning....thanks Robin👍
Robin you are fortunate to have clients that either notice this and/or who will pay for it. I only work like this if client appreciates it. But the last skirting was solid oak so we took our time on that - no caulk , no paint just limed and wax oil
Ideal I’ll use that next time I’m on price
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Using the miter saw fence as a saw horse for the hand saw 🪚🪚
This is the difference with a craftsman like Robin. I'd have just butted them up against each other, caulked and painted and it would still look the same. I wouldn't have the same inner glow of satisfaction but I would have more time to watch fantastic Robin videos 😀
I don't like mdf at all wood is best in my eyes, I have just done some skirting board for a customer
and they chose mdf square edge with an little grove running down it around 25mm from the top
I know what Rodin is on about when it comes to the internal corners and how to make them look nice ,
now I put the floors in this building and built the stud walls so I knew everything was spot on, so I just mitered the internal corners
no worries .keep up the great videos!!!!
Thanks Robin
A standard but joint is much more likely to open up over time. I’m a carpenter of 20 years but still learn stuff from your videos. Keep up the good work pal 👍
Thanks 👍
This will still crack the paint if it moves just like a butt joint or a traditional scribe on moulded skirtings,
I love the channel but this is just silly,
Im a 46yr old chippy by the way whos used to working with oak etc in million pound homes
I am just about to start skirting on my build with this skirting so perfect timing again for me. Thank you so much. I hope it is as easy as you make it look. I will record and share my own experience
You can do it! pop me a pic on Instagram!!
Good carpentry is all about the extra little bits and bobs that alot of people are to lazy to do, or dont know. Thanks Robin.
A scribe is still a butt joint it’s not about being lazy it’s about being cost efficient….. I’m a joiner of 41 years working in high end houses its pointless
It's also finding customers prepared to pay the extra when most sell the house within a couple of years
And what's the benefits of doing it this way please tell me only takes longer ,a scribe is a butt joint and is the proper way to do curved stuff so why not straight
I dovetail all my mdf butt joint skirting.
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Im personally not too sure about the detail. It looks good where it houses in . Its just from the top i dont like the view. I have in the past done a cheaqued mitre at the top about 15mm deep then a butt down below
Well, I like the look of the joint. And the only time difference is the chisel time - assuming you scribe the “first” board into the corner. Were you working on the finished floor (no carpeting to add)? If so would you have used shoe moulding or caulk along the bottom of the baseboard?
Really do make mountains out of molehills
The piece you notch out just becomes a butt joint up against the shorter piece. Any movement will show just the same.
Technically yes it does however because it’s recessed in it will allow for any discrepancy in movement. Mind you, if it’s well glued and fixed it shouldn’t move regardless of whether it’s cut this way or just left to butt it up normally. I’m not wowed by this technique and would question its necessity however I do believe it’s a superior method.
Houses that look like boxes, detail-less carpentry as boring as a Sunday morning, ,skirting as flat as a punctured tyre .... and that skirting tip that sums it all up... Nothing of this is my cuppa but nevertheless I keep loving your content. Thank you.
I quite like the simplicity of it all, can't stand that tacky style. Even sprayed it doesnt look right cos no PD will waste his time sanding and flattening it all down as it takes too much time. And the dust😶🌫️. I will never understand why we must have acropolis in our homes, it looks terrible. Perhaps to mask up very low quality standard and drive the price up? Coving, molded skirting, doors with molded curved shaker, nevel posts and spindles that came out of colosseum, molded architrave, and if you are really unlucky you get a fireplace too - with 10 000 edges on it. Bloody gypsies.
Nice clean design is where it's at, and with high end finish it will look million pounds too.
It depends on the age of the house. Perhaps I'd prefer to see a medium 45 chamfer on that skirting.
I don’t even mitre the external corners , any chance of the start Robin ? , respect to you Robin you do what you think is right 👍
A nice detail for no skirting boards is to have double sill plates and have the wallboard about 7-9 cm above finish floor and rip floorboards down to the same height you have the wallboards hanging above the floor , then fit them in like skirting boards so its flush with the wall, no dust collecting on top and looks really nice
Aiming for exactly flush is problematic with this technique (bottom plates and studs often don’t perfectly align). You also may want to use a finish drywall edging material (vinyl or aluminum). If your floor is wonky, all that skirting then needs to be scribed perfectly. I love the look and I did it on my house but it increases the work load significantly.
Fool the haters I do the same on this stuff. I make a jig and do one pass on a router if I have lots to do 👌 it’s the little things like this that show you care
Nice one Josh!! true!!!
It's a bit gappy along the bottom where it meets the tiles old chap. Give your tiler a slap. We usually use tile skirting on tiled floors.
Nice detail Robin
Cheers Sam
In the olden days they used to cut a mitre & notch internally when it was the plain stuff, the thickness of the skirt down from the top. Used to see it a lot on school jobs. Used to do it on the posh jobs when time wasnt an issue.takes 3times aslong and pretty pointless like this tip is tbf 😅
Day rate
All my work is on a price
Why can’t you just put a stepped mitre like what was always done just a thought
Just out of curiosity whats the benifet of doing it this wayb
A video for youtube.
Do you not scrib into unlevel tile
my main work is painting. painting pictures not walls. i'd just like to say your thorough professionalism helps me with my practice and making art again (after a while of doing some diy on our house we bought 18 months ago) your manner in doing things has rubbed off on me. your method of taking your time really helps in these times where everybody seems to be rushing around is a great help to my practice and making a frame today i couldn't help thinking about how you work and i appreciate your efforts so much. Thank you Robin. I hold you and your working practice in the greatest respect.
Thank you Mark
Yes very good Robin, now what about getting some of those lovely hinge jigs made up.
I'm still waiting for an email to say they're back in stock.
Keep up the good work!
Buy a trend skeleton jig, 100times better & way more robust,
Or if your a chippy make a jig in 10minutes like the rest of us
Great tip Robin, I'll definitely be using that technique from now on thank you. Keep.up the great work!
Very clever tip, it will keep the skirting from twisting. Keep up the good work!
Yes it is a really good way for both the runs to stay nice and tight and not twist
If your 100mm mdf skirtings twist youve got big issues
Maybe not so much as twist but it does expand and contract. Personally I don't like MDF It damages easily. But this is a great tip either way. So if the 100mm skirting twists there are more important problems to deal with. RC & Ed keep up the good work!
Come on, mate!
That's just mental.
I'll give it a go tomorrow 👍
Would you clamp an off cut on and run the router over it set to 6mm with a guide bearing?
You could indeed, just super dusty
Lovely neat joint Robin. One question-- who on earth has nice sharp chisels like yours 😁
Was thinking the same, you could have a shave with that chisel🤣
@@stuartday1876 Yes indeed you could 😀
Me!
Wish I could get my chisels this sharp
@@tomasmorrissey7324 japanese water stones!
I get what your doing but I think the butt joint follows the front line of the skirting much better . This way created a line that's set back and would probably stand out
Once its properly decorated the joint is invisible
Flat skirting, aka The Dust Gatherer!
All skirting gathers dust! As does any horizontal surface.
Lovely job. Thanks for sharing Robin. Can see from the comments it's become a devisive topic, you can't win them all 😂
So true!
I think you might see the joint showing through the paintwork when looking down on it and I don't think it would look right, personally I prefer a mitre joint.
Who mitres internals 🤷♂️
Very neat, top quality, result.
Nice to see hand tools used!
Thank you very much!
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If you are earning extremely good money on your jobs you can take as long as you want, but for the mass majority time is money and you have to shift to earn it.
Proper job
and what about outside corners? same way or 45 degree?🤔
I did show that at the beginning
ohh yes , you did . my bad🤦♂️
I have fitted miles of skirting over the years but never once done square skirting 😂
Over egg the pudding for content
Why not set up your trim router? Could have done 4 in the time it took to saw out one
Cos I still can't afford a router!
@@NAFO_Badger_Brigade OH LOOK ITS A TROLL grow up mate or even better expire quietly in a dark corner - you are now blocked and forgotten about
Great tip! I cant believe I never thought of it
Glad it was helpful!
Nice way of doing it , on a private job perhaps 🤔.. other than that just butt it with some pva in case of shrinkage…
Over kill 😂😂😂
Surprised he didn't use a biscuit Cutter too...
I don’t like the look of the joint on the top of the skirting though, and it will be seen when it moves and cracks the paint. A lot of time for not much reward.
Proper carpentry Robin. Kids today don't understand proper carpentry. Unfortunately as you have spoken about before the quality of trades in todays building trade is shocking.
Lovely to see a real trades man at work.
One question, how the hell do you still have any kneed caps left, i see you never wear need pad in trouser😂!!!!!
Honestly when you said “but I personally do something for this” I thought, well of course you do Robin, I’ve come to expect it from you!
What a lovely finishing touch!
those spuds on the table need planting...
You need to get out more, why create a possible problem when there is none.
What sort of problem am I creating? many years ago it was traditional to house or tongue square or flat mouldings such as skirting that turned a corner, I appreciate that was before grab adhesives and mitre glue and some of the old techniques are being well and truly forgotten and standard is not important to a lot of people these days
my ocd would make me mitre that internal corner lol
Come on.
It's all about the detail!!
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And when it's painted you won't see a thing, dear God what a waste of time.
Sorry have to disagree with you on this I think it looks horrible especially looking down at the top of it because you have two joint lines instead of one.
Once it is painted you will see no joints
Until it moves
Another bit of magic, in years to come someone will be pulling off the then, old boards, and saying "look at this, the guy who did this was a proper carpenter!"... i say that myself a bit from time to time. Even today, an old kitchen rip out and loads of fancy joints and almost unnecessary carpentry, but i like that. It shows the guy who made it really put his soul into it.
Top quality finish but unfortunately on a lot of sites you would probably be let go for wasting time.
Quantity not quality with most companies these day's
He’s lost the plot😂😂😂
Have you seen the property Robin has , from losing the plot
@@brianbostock1698not doubting his credentials at all … this is not a useful tip for any up and coming carpenters .. or anyone for that matter .
Its still just a butt joint but takes 5 times longer nice idea just not prctical for site work when your still getting same result but nice work tho
That makes no sense
Not a very nice looking joint looking down and also complete overkill
Remember he his explaining how he does it so it will appear to take a while but on his own he will do this in less time than you think and it eliminates a fixing in that corner which saves time
I always domino all mitres and at the junction where the skirting meets the architrave
Robins work is second to none it can’t be faulted
Not a fan of that
Robin, please ignore the naysayers. Their jealousy is greener than the grass. By the way, I have shifted to using PVC for much of my base & trim. It is absolutely a delight- of course waterproof, & as the regional manufacturering rep for Versatex points out: if they don't love x y and z , tell them they never have to paint for the rest of their life!
Bet he doesn’t go back and put it right
Don’t hate me Robin, but I hate MDF! It is so “crap”, honestly…my house has got MDF skirting boards that have been routed with a groove & it is so rough in the groove, I’m thinking why would anyone use it? The architraves aren’t too clever either…conventional softwood is absolutely perfect for this kind of woodwork. Also, I’m surprised that experienced chippy’s use it in the first place! Unbelievable
Rough finish in the routed areas is almost certainly down to the decoration. When we fit raw MDF trim we prime, flat off, prime again, flat off, then fit. Zinsser Coverstain as primer is solvent based, so doesn't "raise the grain" like a WB would, two hour re coat time, so no great issue in delay of job, and you get a glass like finish where the raw surfaces are indistinguishable from the flat surfaces. Doing this level of prep before fitting is as easy as pie and super fast. I can't comment on who fitted your skirting, or who painted it, but if it's rough I'd guess it was a bish bash bosh team, paid low and need the volume to make money, rather than do a job properly. Also, modern softwood is often total 💩. Full of knots, shakes, warps and terrible to work with from a seasoning point of view. MDF has issues, but it also has advantages if treated properly.
You are a wood working jesus
Thank you!!!!!!!!
Why on earth would you triple the time it takes to do a corner when a butt joint, glued, is just as effective and more importantly, quicker. You really have too much time on your hands Robin!
Couldn’t go through this process if you want to make money on a job
Agreed, I knock a four bedroom house out top to bottom in a day with 6" ogee skirting, doing this I'd be there 3 days and the end result wouldn't be any different! Totally unnecessary, the poor customer paying on the other end will be well out of pocket paying 3 times over.
Yeah, not a fan of this idea, with today's adhesives to fit skirts just seems so pointless. I would get spending the extra time if it made a big difference, but yeah not in my eyes.
I make money on every job, its just the standard I do for my customers
I used to do price work when I was younger and indeed used to get through masses of work to make it pay, its not my preferred type of work anymore!!!
What a waste of time 😅😂this looks exactly the same as a butt joint but takes 5x longer.
It holds both sides true and tight something a butt joint will not, its just good joinery practice, when I served my time in the late 1980's we where taught many techniques like this, I find it amazing that people would prefer a butt joint over this, even with explaining it only takes a few minutes????
Flat, plain skirting? When the heck-a-doodle did that abomination become a thing?
Must only be in houses with staff... ;-)
Mainly used in big apartment blocks in communal hallways/corridors
Nice and modern!!
That looks awful.
But the joint is invisible once the decorator has painted
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