Robin, thankyou so much for all these superbly informative videos. I learned my trade as a carpenter in an era where explanation and information where hard to extract from mentors on site. It's so refreshing to see someone take the time to explain, take the time to set things up, have excellent tools and efficient processes. I've always felt this is the way the industry should be as the norm, however its generally the exception. I'm finding all your videos so useful and inspirational and so many times I've thought- 'ah, I wish I knew that 20 years ago!!!' Wonderful channel and service, so thanks again and please keep sharing and helping the next generation of carpenter. I would also love to buy the long jig. Cheers!
Interesting your comment about "explanation and information were hard to extract on site". That can be a common problem in many trades unfortunately and is very frustrating.
Hi Robin, been using a jig very similar at our college for a few years now. We still teach the old way with just a chisel but employers want us to teach the way modern chippy's on site work where time is money. Very pleased someone as high profile as yourself endorse a quicker and easier method. I also agree about those soft screws that come with the hinges which are not the best. I am from an era when 'Nettlefolds' screws were the norm and not hardened or twin grip and would easily snap especially if using brass ones, so always pulled my screws across a piece of candle wax to assist with putting them in, also using a 'Yankee' screwdriver, those were the days.
Very impressive stuff. As a chippy myself I would of loved these jigs back in my time .I had the old saw horse with a notch out for the door to stay upright while chopping the butts in.
Nice to hear mention of a firmer chisel. I haven't seen or heard of them for decades, even when I mention them to professionals - except my own from mid 1970s. Still got and use them.
Jigs speed the process up big time and the accuracy is vastly improved a heads up though we rout the hinges on the liner on the bench before installing it makes the job even easier
Hi Robin. Let me start by saying i find all your videos very informative. Your channel is the no 1 go to before i take on a project. Now... Im doing a reno for my daughter,and my next task is hanging 6 expensive doors. Looking at your vids hopefully will give me the confidence. I have it all in my head i will succeed, wish me luck i can transfer it to my hands. Keep the great videos coming. Thanks Again
My aluminium Trend one works on rebated casings, and with architraves in-situ, too. This soft MDF one is for linings only, by the look of it and will not work with Archi's on.
I,v got one of those buggers, bloody godsend. I always take the leading edge off as well, both sides. made guide for my power plane with a very slight angle works a treat.
Brilliant work 👍 ended up making my own jigs to fit linings with architrave already fitted attaching where you fix the door stops You would make great teacher thanks again love watching your videos 👍🙏
I use trend jigs got two, 3 inch and 4 inch hinges they are game changers .Hung 10 fire doors with latches chopped out of doors and 10 softwood linings in a day .Bosh not bad for 53 😂
Great video from a pro. I mean, it took me 3 hours to do the same thing but I consider that a win. I'm expecting my second door will come in around 2 hours 15 minutes now that I'm an expert 👍
I use a cordless for screws but always Finnish by hand , and I only let in the hinges on the door then flush on the frame then if it sticks you just let hinges in , always hung twelve doors a day but not to your standard , when we had slotted screws and the customer wanted all the slots in the same line the chippy Forman would say it’s because they don’t have sex any more , great channel thank you , ❤
Hi Robin, just love watching your videos. Cleanliness of work practice and your natural passion to do things as exact as possible. As a former jig and tool draughtsman I applaud your use of tooling to make the job as productive as possible i.e spending time on set up which is easily pulled back on the production and results in a better quality job. Well done !! .... Spike
Perfect for them type of hinges. The thing that nobody on UA-cam doesn't seem to know how to do is a traditional half butt hinge where where you check into the door then with a rule and hinge closed, put along the edge of the hinge to show your clearance then tail the leaf of the hinge into the standards. If fitting a modern butt hinge I do exactly the same as you but when you try to apply the same principle to a traditional narrow butt hinge your clearance is left to luck when check the thickness of the leaf into the door and into the standards. I know you know how to do your traditional butt hinges. When fitting the standards I only worry about getting the hinge side right, then I hang the door and chase the standards around the door giving it 3mm clearance
It's a cool jig I like the idea of the hinge holes being the same size as a the hinge so no need for a guide bush! The only negative id say is it only works on 4 inch hinges so if your doing a whole house of lightweight doors so smaller hinges you have to have another jig to suit those size hinges? Where as with like a trend jig it's adjustable to suit all size hinges and the 2 piece trend hinge jig obviously comes apart so much easier to transport! I guess if your doing a site where all doors are fire doors then it's great for that
Hello robin , really good content looking at hanging a few doors my self could you please give me a bit of information on what measurement to fit 3 hinges please Thanks .
Excellent video again. I wondered how long it would be before you'd develop a full length jig. I found myself fitting 10 frames and doors recently and took the time to make my own similar full length jig. It made such a difference in the fit, finish, speed and ease of fitting. With those ballbearing hinges being the flavour of the month just now it makes sense to me to hinge them this way. Also I've always been of the opinion to spend time getting the frame in as accurately as possible so there is virtually no shooting of a door, especially if it's pre finished.
@@spenceralton489 I would guess that you would pack the jig out the to compensate for the rebate (say 15mm). You would then drop the router cutter that same amount.
Excellent -- a simple but ingenious idea, perfectly realised! (Now, if you could persuade the hinge manufacturers to make them with rounded corners that'd simplify the process even further!)
What a great video Robin! Really useful information as we'll be doing this soon! Your audio only comes out of the left ear when listening, please may you try put it in both on the next video? Thanks so much for the constant useful information.
Thanks a lot for your nice video Robin. I'm just wondering about the link for the router bit. I'd really appreciate if you could please let me know. Thanks again.
May I ask what pilot you used? Could you send a link to it please 🙏🏻 Thank you for the time and energy you spend sharing your knowledge and expertise 🙏🏻
Nicely done Robin, I'd buy the long jig to go with my small one. When did you switch from the air bags to the viking arms? I have a set of those and they are worth their weight in gold
Hi Robin. Could you kindly send a link to the door lifts you used in this video and your centre pilot plunge please. Thank you for all you share. You have inspired me to become a carpenter at 42 :)
Always, always prefer the look of slot head screws in hinges...and all lined up too ! Love this jig. When i eventually do my self build might well invest...unless i get pre-hung doors .
Your jigs look great, how can I get a long jig, and also the small ones, 102mm and 76mm please, also i sometimes fit eclipse radial hinges if you could help please
great tutorial video Robin,one thing tough,can you make your videos mono? when listening on headphones to the soundtrack of this (and some others) video you get only sound in the left speaker,something wich makes it quite annoying to watch the video,cheers
Hi Robin, I've followed you since the covid lockdown. Can't say enough good things about you. You deserve all the success that is slowly building up. Kind regards, David.
Great video again Robin. It's all good untill one of the hinges falls out bounces off the finished walnut door lands on it's corner on top of the new herringbone floors marks it😢😢
Good Video Robin. I'm a great fan of jigs to do most jobs, however, I dont think I would swap my Trend one piece hinge jig for one of yours, I reckon the trend is more versatile, as you can use it on rebated linings, and even if the architrave is fitted. I use a battery trim router like yourself, however, I use it with a plunge base, as I learnt the hard way, that if you catch your jig with the cutter, you ruin ya jig
Amazingly informative! Thanks Rob. As its a fire door, would you be doing a video of the intumescent strips going in the frame or have they already been rebated? Cheers
class vid robin. been using that small jig i bought of you for a while now. its getting a touch rough now so may well need a new one. that long jig is a class idea although its obviously set up solely for standard imperial doors. im not entirely sure but up here in the north east theres quite a lot of doors which are 2032mm in height and 813mm in width so 80 x 32 inch. think its fairly unique to this part of the world though. not every door from howdens for example is available in those sizes. so obviously that would be a different size jig again. still id buy one if i was given the chance like
Great video. Can't believe how many doors, especially fire doors I have seen that have been hung with excessive margins. A true time-served/ joiner/carpenter would understand the importance and passion of getting margins correct, especially on fire doors. Even on new builds, the margins on doors are ridiculous, supposedly to NHBC standards, which is absolute nonsense and simply highlights poor workmanship and even worse site supervision. Robin, great to see you promoting easy ways to undertake these jobs. Gone are the days of chiseling out for the hinge, but also relies upon tradesmen now having all the modern power tools.
Does any company manufacture a set of Butts ( hinges ) with standard 1/4 rounded corners to avoid having to square off routed hinge recesses? Regards John
Hello, It looks like the jigs wouldn’t work if the architraves are on, is that right? Anyone got any tips to get around that if so? Much appreciated. Love Robin’s work and explanations - down side, if you can call it that is my expectations of a trade and their work is a proper job as per RC and co. Keep raising the standards Robin, The cream floats to the top!
Can you use the jig if fitting new door into an existing frame ? Would you have to remove the architrave to be able to screw or clamp it to the frame ??
Used to be 2p but with the cost of inflation it’s a pound now Robin unfortunately 😂😂
😂😂
That’s also why a 69 is now a 96 😂
Robin, thankyou so much for all these superbly informative videos. I learned my trade as a carpenter in an era where explanation and information where hard to extract from mentors on site. It's so refreshing to see someone take the time to explain, take the time to set things up, have excellent tools and efficient processes. I've always felt this is the way the industry should be as the norm, however its generally the exception. I'm finding all your videos so useful and inspirational and so many times I've thought- 'ah, I wish I knew that 20 years ago!!!' Wonderful channel and service, so thanks again and please keep sharing and helping the next generation of carpenter. I would also love to buy the long jig. Cheers!
Interesting your comment about "explanation and information were hard to extract on site". That can be a common problem in many trades unfortunately and is very frustrating.
Super work! Testament to putting in the linings plum and level.
Hi Robin, been using a jig very similar at our college for a few years now. We still teach the old way with just a chisel but employers want us to teach the way modern chippy's on site work where time is money. Very pleased someone as high profile as yourself endorse a quicker and easier method. I also agree about those soft screws that come with the hinges which are not the best. I am from an era when 'Nettlefolds' screws were the norm and not hardened or twin grip and would easily snap especially if using brass ones, so always pulled my screws across a piece of candle wax to assist with putting them in, also using a 'Yankee' screwdriver, those were the days.
I've still got my dads Yankee! I still use it from time to time it's a great screwdriver! 👍🏻
@@kadzo1000 I still have my own pair of Yankees. That's how old I am...🤔
Very impressive stuff. As a chippy myself I would of loved these jigs back in my time .I had the old saw horse with a notch out for the door to stay upright while chopping the butts in.
My dad was a joiner on the Liverpool Liver building fitting the fie doors back in the 50s always had 2 pennies in his toolbox 😊
Bloody beautiful to watch. The long jig is so effective and economical. (NZ viewer.)
Nice to hear mention of a firmer chisel. I haven't seen or heard of them for decades, even when I mention them to professionals - except my own from mid 1970s. Still got and use them.
Make it make it make it its so easy to set up and accurate with using 2/3 individuals takes longer and not spot on They are just PERFECT
Jigs speed the process up big time and the accuracy is vastly improved a heads up though we rout the hinges on the liner on the bench before installing it makes the job even easier
Hi Robin. Let me start by saying i find all your videos very informative. Your channel is the no 1 go to before i take on a project. Now... Im doing a reno for my daughter,and my next task is hanging 6 expensive doors. Looking at your vids hopefully will give me the confidence. I have it all in my head i will succeed, wish me luck i can transfer it to my hands. Keep the great videos coming. Thanks Again
My aluminium Trend one works on rebated casings, and with architraves in-situ, too. This soft MDF one is for linings only, by the look of it and will not work with Archi's on.
I,v got one of those buggers, bloody godsend. I always take the leading edge off as well, both sides. made guide for my power plane with a very slight angle works a treat.
Brilliant work 👍 ended up making my own jigs to fit linings with architrave already fitted attaching where you fix the door stops
You would make great teacher thanks again love watching your videos 👍🙏
I recall Norm using a big metal adjustable contraption for a hinge jig way way back in the day, this looks much more usable
Good to see you back robin, genius ! What more can I say⭐ there’s nobody like you ! Thanks for teaching us and sharing your skills. 🙏
yeah I started making my own jigs after seeing this a. year back
I use trend jigs got two, 3 inch and 4 inch hinges they are game changers .Hung 10 fire doors with latches chopped out of doors and 10 softwood linings in a day .Bosh not bad for 53 😂
robin had to do it 1 horse power router just with guide am glad you launched the jig great bit kit
Great video from a pro. I mean, it took me 3 hours to do the same thing but I consider that a win. I'm expecting my second door will come in around 2 hours 15 minutes now that I'm an expert 👍
Hard to beat the trend Skeleton jig. With doors into existing frames I just make my own hinge jig using the table saw, gets it pretty accurate.
Great channel Robin thank you so much for doing these vids for us all . What a great resource for young chippies learning their trade
Happy to help
I use a cordless for screws but always Finnish by hand , and I only let in the hinges on the door then flush on the frame then if it sticks you just let hinges in , always hung twelve doors a day but not to your standard , when we had slotted screws and the customer wanted all the slots in the same line the chippy Forman would say it’s because they don’t have sex any more , great channel thank you , ❤
Hi Robin, just love watching your videos. Cleanliness of work practice and your natural passion to do things as exact as possible. As a former jig and tool draughtsman I applaud your use of tooling to make the job as productive as possible i.e spending time on set up which is easily pulled back on the production and results in a better quality job. Well done !! .... Spike
Best wood butcher on utube😃
I can't help but look at door gaps wherever I go and it's amazing how few "fire" doors comply with the 3mm!
I still like to use hammer and chisel - with experience and practice you get quick. But I love your gig and video - nice one!
Fantastic job Robin and a pleasure it was following on spraying all the woodwork!!!
Brilliant idea. It takes me ages to get the cuts right
What happened to 6inches down 9inches up? Also id always still add a leading edge. Theres no worry of doors being hinge bound then
Thats the measurements we use the jig is set to that for a standard door, leading edges are not done much now especially with a fully finished door
Perfect for them type of hinges. The thing that nobody on UA-cam doesn't seem to know how to do is a traditional half butt hinge where where you check into the door then with a rule and hinge closed, put along the edge of the hinge to show your clearance then tail the leaf of the hinge into the standards. If fitting a modern butt hinge I do exactly the same as you but when you try to apply the same principle to a traditional narrow butt hinge your clearance is left to luck when check the thickness of the leaf into the door and into the standards. I know you know how to do your traditional butt hinges. When fitting the standards I only worry about getting the hinge side right, then I hang the door and chase the standards around the door giving it 3mm clearance
Believe it or not trend do a jig for those. For how often it comes up though I just do those the old fashioned way
It's a cool jig I like the idea of the hinge holes being the same size as a the hinge so no need for a guide bush! The only negative id say is it only works on 4 inch hinges so if your doing a whole house of lightweight doors so smaller hinges you have to have another jig to suit those size hinges? Where as with like a trend jig it's adjustable to suit all size hinges and the 2 piece trend hinge jig obviously comes apart so much easier to transport! I guess if your doing a site where all doors are fire doors then it's great for that
Hello robin , really good content looking at hanging a few doors my self could you please give me a bit of information on what measurement to fit 3 hinges please
Thanks .
Full size jig is a fantastic idea
Looks like a good product. I’ve got used to using my router free hand finishing with my chisel. I guess this leaves less chance of F ups.
How do you use them on existing linings when architraves are already fitted ?
How do you adjust for different sized hinges?
Excellent video again. I wondered how long it would be before you'd develop a full length jig. I found myself fitting 10 frames and doors recently and took the time to make my own similar full length jig. It made such a difference in the fit, finish, speed and ease of fitting. With those ballbearing hinges being the flavour of the month just now it makes sense to me to hinge them this way. Also I've always been of the opinion to spend time getting the frame in as accurately as possible so there is virtually no shooting of a door, especially if it's pre finished.
Can you show how your hinge jigs work on rebated door frames. For example fitting front doors.
Thanks Regards Spence .
@@spenceralton489 I would guess that you would pack the jig out the to compensate for the rebate (say 15mm). You would then drop the router cutter that same amount.
@@spenceralton489trend full length jig works exactly the same on front doors as it does on internal doors
You beat me to it ...@@spenceralton489
Excellent Video, very pleasing to watch.
Glad you enjoyed it
Wonderful invention, Robin. Will buy one shortly.
I'll be more then happy to get this when you release it.
Absolutely love those hinge jigs. Bravo.
Thank you Steve
Bleedin hell, thats some view outside mate. Lovely.
Desperately need one of these long jigs. Please let me know when they're available 🤞
Excellent -- a simple but ingenious idea, perfectly realised! (Now, if you could persuade the hinge manufacturers to make them with rounded corners that'd simplify the process even further!)
They do but they cost upto 50%more per hinge.
@@paulzirker706 I did not know that -- thanks, Paul! (At least I know it was a good idea!)
Just use a 24mm guide bush & a 22mm router cutter, perfect for radius hinges
What a great video Robin! Really useful information as we'll be doing this soon!
Your audio only comes out of the left ear when listening, please may you try put it in both on the next video?
Thanks so much for the constant useful information.
Sounds fine to me.
@@TerryTerryTerry Listening with headphones and it only comes out of left.
What are the door lifter brand called you're using to steady it in place when hanging?
I never use screws provided. They're always soft. Learned that from the craftsman who did the specialist in our current home
Ooh, love that pilot bit with the center finder.
axminster tools sell them there not cheap but well worth it
Please let us know what brand of self centering bits you use 😊👍
Hi, you mentioned piloting with a bias after using a self centering drill bit. Is it possible? Great video by the way.
Nice simple solution that works.
Thanks a lot for your nice video Robin. I'm just wondering about the link for the router bit.
I'd really appreciate if you could please let me know.
Thanks again.
May I ask what pilot you used? Could you send a link to it please 🙏🏻
Thank you for the time and energy you spend sharing your knowledge and expertise 🙏🏻
Nicely done Robin, I'd buy the long jig to go with my small one.
When did you switch from the air bags to the viking arms? I have a set of those and they are worth their weight in gold
Nice product for recessing hinges for door and frame (planted rebate stops) How do you get on with this product on rebated door frames?Thanks
I need one of those jigs when are they back in stock.
Great video, this might be a silly question but is most hinges the same size, am afraid to buy the jig incase it only fits a couple of hinges.
Absolute perfet jig can't wait to get my one Robin ❤
They’re so useful when all in one 🙌🏼
Nice job ,what if the architrave is in situ ??
Hi Robin.
Could you kindly send a link to the door lifts you used in this video and your centre pilot plunge please.
Thank you for all you share. You have inspired me to become a carpenter at 42 :)
I am interested in the long jig. Looks great
Always, always prefer the look of slot head screws in hinges...and all lined up too ! Love this jig. When i eventually do my self build might well invest...unless i get pre-hung doors .
Are you from the 1930s?
@@scottmason8529 Nope, just prefer the look of slots in doors.Happy with crossheads elsewhere, but as it happens i mainly use TStar /Torxhead screws.
Your jigs look great, how can I get a long jig, and also the small ones, 102mm and 76mm please, also i sometimes fit eclipse radial hinges if you could help please
great tutorial video Robin,one thing tough,can you make your videos mono? when listening on headphones to the soundtrack of this (and some others) video you get only sound in the left speaker,something wich makes it quite annoying to watch the video,cheers
Get the New Jig Made! 100% buy one.. keep it up and keep making RC jigs
Hi Robin, I've followed you since the covid lockdown. Can't say enough good things about you. You deserve all the success that is slowly building up. Kind regards, David.
Thank you David!!
Great video again Robin. It's all good untill one of the hinges falls out bounces off the finished walnut door lands on it's corner on top of the new herringbone floors marks it😢😢
Robin, how soon will I be able to get the full length jig and your latch jig Ive seen? Want both please
Good Video Robin. I'm a great fan of jigs to do most jobs, however, I dont think I would swap my Trend one piece hinge jig for one of yours, I reckon the trend is more versatile, as you can use it on rebated linings, and even if the architrave is fitted. I use a battery trim router like yourself, however, I use it with a plunge base, as I learnt the hard way, that if you catch your jig with the cutter, you ruin ya jig
Hi Robin
Just wondering if you will be getting the long hinge jig as I am interested in one
Amazingly informative! Thanks Rob.
As its a fire door, would you be doing a video of the intumescent strips going in the frame or have they already been rebated? Cheers
Nice, what is the bit used for the pilot hole? Thank you
I'd be interested in purchasing a full legth jig Robin
class vid robin. been using that small jig i bought of you for a while now. its getting a touch rough now so may well need a new one.
that long jig is a class idea although its obviously set up solely for standard imperial doors. im not entirely sure but up here in the north east theres quite a lot of doors which are 2032mm in height and 813mm in width so 80 x 32 inch. think its fairly unique to this part of the world though. not every door from howdens for example is available in those sizes. so obviously that would be a different size jig again.
still id buy one if i was given the chance like
Great video. Can't believe how many doors, especially fire doors I have seen that have been hung with excessive margins. A true time-served/ joiner/carpenter would understand the importance and passion of getting margins correct, especially on fire doors. Even on new builds, the margins on doors are ridiculous, supposedly to NHBC standards, which is absolute nonsense and simply highlights poor workmanship and even worse site supervision. Robin, great to see you promoting easy ways to undertake these jobs. Gone are the days of chiseling out for the hinge, but also relies upon tradesmen now having all the modern power tools.
What a great bit of kit and a really informative video.
Hi Robin. Great video. Do have a link for the clamp you use to hold the door in position while you prep the hinges?
Hey Robin, what would you do if you wanted to retrofit some hinges into a door frame with a door stop already on?
I want the long jig will purchase one now if possible
What happened to the fire door set video you talked about doing pal?
are these long ones available yet and how much please
Impressive workflow improvement with the long jig. Why not just market a jig to enable folks to knock out the long jig?
What about if your architrave is already fitted?
Hi. Thanks for the great video. Are the clamps the door stand on to fit to door frame the same ones on the purchase link?
Would be brilliant if you could sell the full jig and also that lock jig
Does any company manufacture a set of Butts ( hinges ) with standard 1/4 rounded corners to avoid having to square off routed hinge recesses?
Regards John
Hi Robin, I'm interested in your long jig. What's the latest?
Where can I buy the hole pilot you used on the hinges
Great advice. What type of a drill bit was used for the pilot holes? Where may i purchase 1?
Great job Robin, another great demonstration on hanging a door 😊
Lovely stuff as always. Could you please recommend a decent set of pilot drill bits?
You still selling your door jigs? They look amazing
Hello, It looks like the jigs wouldn’t work if the architraves are on, is that right? Anyone got any tips to get around that if so? Much appreciated. Love Robin’s work and explanations - down side, if you can call it that is my expectations of a trade and their work is a proper job as per RC and co. Keep raising the standards Robin, The cream floats to the top!
Hey Robin - Will you be re-stocking your hinge jigs and cutter?
Is there a way to usd a jig on a rebated door casing?
Can you use the jig if fitting new door into an existing frame ? Would you have to remove the architrave to be able to screw or clamp it to the frame ??
Great video, Robin yet again. Do not see a listing for your full length jig. And which model of router are you using in your video. Thanks
Hi Robin, what centre drill was that I have a trend but clogs up all the time yours didn’t seem to do that?
So how much you charge per door if you doing so quick ?
Amazing work Rob 👍 ,i am interested in the long jig so I'll put an order in the soon it's out 👌🤙🔥