The Reddit Post That Almost Broke the NBA
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- Опубліковано 31 січ 2023
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There was a gigantic controversy when a Reddit post accused the NBA of being rigged. A fan noticed that Jaren Jackson Jr.’s defensive stats were extremely lopsided at home so he accused the home scorekeeper of being corrupt. The NBA took the allegation so seriously the Commissioner Adam Silver had an emergency meeting 24 hours after the post. This is a look at whether the Reddit user is onto something. - Спорт
Two things: first, sorry about forgetting Secaucus is in NJ. Second: there’s so much spam/scammers in the comments! Don’t get fooled!
Ah damn, so you mean I’m not getting a free ps5 after giving them my account details 😂😂
Timothy Donaghy did not fix games.
@@gypsykiing2013 wait seriously. But they pinky-promised!!!
Great video and thanks for explaining the stats process. Here is an interesting analysis of Jaren Jackson's stats by BBallBreakdown. Pretty much the same conclusion that you came to ... ua-cam.com/video/zpOGs75ScTg/v-deo.html
Sports betting is also legal in Massachusetts
My theory:
JJJ is the original Reddit poster.
He did a genius move and drew attention to his incredible splits disparity to solidify his DPoY run this season. 4D chess style.
Damn. 🤔
yeah bc nba players are that smart.
hmmm seems likely
Everyone playing chess, while he’s playing 4d chess
And he also bet money on himself
"People on reddit are not just dorks on the internet"
I wouldn't go that far
Even 4chan found a ISIS training camp hidden in plain slight.
The dorks online straight up find things.
Not everyone on Reddit is a dork, but every online dork is on Reddit 🤯
Lol so true
Some of them almost brought down the stock market with WSB via GameStop, AMC, NAKD, etc. Of course there are a lot of people posting pointless stuff (most UA-camrs do, just in a video format), but then there are users who would post quality content.
@@randomdude6276 remember that time they made a dude kill himself because they falsely accused him of being the boston bomber
The Reddit user just handed Jaren the DPOY award
I think JJJ SHOULD win if it was best shot blocker of the year, but it’s defensive player of the year and metrics say it should be Evan Mobley. Unfortunately because he’s a nice quiet kid without a National conspiracy, he probably will be lucky to make the 2nd team.
@@davidwindell fam a team doesn't go from 19th in the league defensively to literally first in the league due to one guy when that one guy ONLY blocks shots... Hes an incredible roaming defender, shows insane defensive IQ and theres literally no one better right now at shutting down pick and rolls
believe it or not, companies will do whatever gets them the most money, even if it means having unfair games
people think when people think the nba is rigged they mean it's scripted like a harlem globetrotters game, but that's not the case, however it can definitely be rigged
Adam Silver acted so quick, that’s proof alone the league is rigged.
Agree, very suspicious
Gordon Hayward reading his script on October 17th, 2017:
😵😵😵
Seems like someone doesn’t know what qualifies as proofs. It’s very suspicious though, I’d give you that
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Yup for LeBron and curry
Holy shit it’s almost like a team that is 21-4 at home and 11-16 on the road plays better at home….truly groundbreaking
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Nigga that was the first option. If you didn’t want to have an open mind why touch the vid.
@@Justhim22 what are you talking about? How do you know how open my mind is? I had no idea about this situation until this video
Ive been sayin this since this came out.....
You deserve bad things to happen to you.
Tony Brothers 100% is one of those refs who fix games
Depends on whose playing in those games lol
@@abw1317 ofc ofc
What I know for sure is that he HATES Jokic and the Nuggets and that a 100%
How do you know that? Can you show us some evidence, proof?
@@gaminginfo161 I watch every Nuggets game for example and if Jokic was thrown out of the game like 15-16 times 12 are when Tony Brothers is a ref. And generally his calls and no calls are egregious. You just have to watch it to see it.
I heard he hates Raptors too
My local pro sports team used to have the opposite problem, good road record and a lousy home record. It was because the core players had a very bad habit of partying the night before home games but were more accountable for their whereabouts and activities when out on the road.
but the nba is rigged, has been for years. tim donaghy was a scapegoat, you really think he is the one and only one to rig games. in no other professional sport especially in the big 4 do the refs have as much power and control as they do in the nba. two quick ticky tack fouls and you can have your best player on the court sitting in the first quarter. Imagine if tom brady was sitting out with 10 minutes left of the first quarter. refs also control the pacing of the game, sometimes they let them play on, sometimes its little ticky tack, sometimes thats a good no contact, sometimes its you breath on me and its a foul. refs control and dictate wayyyyyy to much of the nba.
Tim Donaghy said when he was a rookie Ref, he called something on Michael Jordan, he said Michael, the refs & Phil Jackson were chastising him. Michael told him “The league doesn’t want you to call those calls on me.”
@@IblewuponyourfaceIII yea let's take the criminal's word🙄
@@insertnamehere9950 I believe him, he has nothing to lose anymore. Last time I checked everyone is a criminal somehow.
@@IblewuponyourfaceIII not denying star treatment but that quote looks so fake 😂 "the NBA is rigged and doesn't want you to blow the whistle young referee!"
@@bigmadafaca1020 yea it's like ik we hired you do that but don't do that or you'll get fired
People never talk about the league "points of emphasis" mentioned by Donaghy. The NBA throws games by telling officials to call certain fouls against teams or players on a game by game basis.
He mentions how Allen Iverson carried the ball the whole year and right before a big game they came down on him. Oftentimes points of emphasis would all go against one team to lengthen a playoff series. Remember Golden State and the Cavs in the finals?
Couldn’t of said it any better
That '06 Finals the emphasis was on them damn Wade free throws smh.
Nice hoping someone else understood this point. It’s not as much as games are rigged but manipulated - to help or hinder star players, create story lines, and of course lengthen playoff series. All in the name of money. Not sports it’s sports entertainment.
believe it or not, companies will do whatever gets them the most money, even if it means having unfair games
people think when people think the nba is rigged they mean it's scripted like a harlem globetrotters game, but that's not the case, however it can definitely be rigged
Charles Barkley shooting like 40 free throws against the Sonics in game 7 of the 93 Western Conference Final.
Everything is rigged. Literally everything. Politics, stock trading, sports, award shows. Whatever it is, it's rigged.
Something similar happened to this with the Clippers during the 90s with Donald Sterling’s influence on home game score keeping but it was the opposite way that he may had them not record certain stats as way to be cheap to the players.
That sounds like Money Ball but back wards. Which is more fucked up.
@@BGRUBBIN yup it is
As if all that shit that happened in 2014 wasn't enough proof that we had the worst owner in sports history 🤦♂️
believe it or not, companies will do whatever gets them the most money, even if it means having unfair games
people think when people think the nba is rigged they mean it's scripted like a harlem globetrotters game, but that's not the case, however it can definitely be rigged
lol Never heard this but it makes sense for two reasons: Sterling is a notorious racist and is of the tribe that looooooves shekels.
I’ve always believed the league is corrupt. Scott Foster was literally caught gambling on games he was reffing, yet he still has a job. This JJJ example didn’t turn out to be true and to be fair was farfetched at best, but the overlying issues with the NBA is very suspect.
Then pull together some proof
A follow up video to this should be, are the NBA and NFL licensed under Entertainment and therefore allowed to script outcomes? Rumors say yes
Whoever said they weren’t “allowed” to do whatever they want? Of course it’s entertainment.
@@truthhurts837if the NBA and NFL are licensed as sports, they can’t script outcomes as that’s a federal crime. If they’re registered as entertainment can script outcomes
@@truthhurts837 not when sports betting exists and is legal around the world
They licensed themselves as entertainment for tax purposes. That's a poor argument. If you want people to believe it's being rigged, get good arguments. Not ones easily debunked
@@Kevin-gg2bl He didn't argue that it was being rigged, though. He argued that they were allowed to rig it. We must be more exact in our reading.
That's reassuring to know, I just hope the refs situation gets dealt with because the Celtics have a 38-2 record with Eric Lewis as a ref, and given the no call on Lebron, at least an investigation has to happen
The Celtics is more motivated this year after they lost last year. They win some and lose some. They just destroyed the Nets today, but of course without KD. 🤷
I bet you never asked for an investigation to be done for Lebrons whole career or for the 2016 rigged chip the Cavs won huh hypocrite
The record when Eric Lewis is a ref for the Celtics is actually 49-28 but I do agree an investigation should take place because these no calls are rediculous
@@kenaut7075 wym, they’ve been getting far and losing for years now
@@duc2133 because someone commented the Celtics are cheating. If the Celtics cheats, they should have won the Finals last year. We all know the refs are trash for every team this year. Ask Luka.🤷
How is this man only at 200k. Man should be working for the NBA as a broadcaster
I doubt he would want to. He's got his own thing going
Fax
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He was in San Antonio, but got romantically involved with Duncan's brother.
He got caught on audio with Rachel Nichols 😂
I had no idea the NBA leaked the report about refs betting. We need an in depth video on that.
There's literally a documentary on Netflix....
Even if this case wasn’t rigged, there is definetly something sketchy going on, no way Adam Silver would react that fast if he knew that NBA is not rigged
It's possible (and in my opinion most likely) that he just recognized that this could become a big story. Maybe he found out that several reporters were about to write about it.
@@jumpinjohnnyruss exactly, it was a national story they had to get out in front of regardless. It’s really sad that are so many paranoid tweakers who think everything is a conspiracy
I guess you guys don't know about the 2002 Kings vs. Lakers WCF series... I stopped watching NBA ball right then and there, and I am not even a Kings fan.
@@joebauers3746 I wish I'd done the same. That's about the time I should have realized that it wasn't sports, but "sports entertainment".
@@jumpinjohnnyruss Hey, at this point it is pretty clear who is in charge of nearly everything, and money is and always has been their number one priority.
This channel is my favorite NBA reporting on UA-cam, or really anywhere for that matter. Love the content man. It's fills my NBA information addiction for sure. Well it helps a lot because I consume probably way to much content.
I appreciate that
@@AMHoops I’ve been watching you for about 7 months now and you are definitely in that top 3 nba content creators for me❤
This channel is the most Hollywood nba info you will ever come across.. It’s legit just a giant bait channel
@@thuggwaffle8825 sources please. Providing some of your better channels would be grear
NBA=WWE=NFL 🇺🇸
Just like when MJ forced to retire to play baseball, he was betting on sports game...Many former bookies , and people in the business say it was/is common with referees certain players, point shaving ect., all levels...
theres been numerous occasions of stat keeping being rigged, i remember when russell westbrook had his mvp season they were messing with his stats as well, doesn't surprise me it probably happens all the time in sports
one of your best videos yet i love the way you make people think youre taking 1 side at the beginning of the vid and then show the truth, keep up the great vids i love when you cover controversy
I fucking KNEW betting was gonna ruin sports, I just never knew it was gonna happen this fast
You didn’t finish the video did you
turns out the calls were actually correct because the reddit user/everyone else don't have access to other angles of those plays.
You say this as though it’s just now an issue. Did you forget about Tim Donaghy? Pete Rose. This has been happening for decades and there is always something or someone that gets caught. Does it affect the sport… NO. Otherwise it would have been finished in the 80s/90s. So it’s not happening this fast it’s been happening for decades.
@@todiodedele4340 lmao exactly
@@CrazyUncleDrew How do you know that it can't affect the sport without it destroying the sport? I can affect my car without destroying it. Can't you?
They need to apply this same investigation into foul calls.
This is some solid content. Definitely had me questioning the legitimacy of his blocks before showing the other angles. Good stuff Casey 👍
This is how the world works. Placing bets and rigging games is considered child’s play compared to the other things that the ‘higher ups’ indulge in
Leave Nancy alone!!! She has the right to sell policy on the free market. America is a free market economy. You can't deny her that just because she's a politician.
this is the first video of yours i’ve seen. your editing is clean, your audio is clear, and i love the swish sound you add in for visuals!!!! keep it up bro
I remember waking up, check reddit saw a 60k upvotes and then the NBA is on catastrophe. 🤣
There so much money involved, I'd be shocked if pro sports weren't rigged.
This was a great video and solid story telling. Huge ups for editing as well
This is quality 👌🏽
Everyone knows the NBA is more about entertainment than the integrity of the sport. It wouldn't surprise me if the NBA and odds makers are in cahoots.
Crazy Tyler Herro has enough time to get buckets full time for the Heat and also run a successful UA-cam channel like this. Props.
As a Spurs fan, this is the opposite of their scorekeeper. Duncan probably got shafted out of at least 500 legitimate blocks in his career. This probably influenced the voters in the awful decision to never award him DPOY.
But this JJJ situation doesn't surprise me. I remember a lot of ppl accused the Celtics stat-keeper of goosing up Rondo's assists back in the day as well. Also heard that with Stockton
The Stock was a myth. 10.9 at home, 10.1 on the road (1,504 games)
Magic Johnsons was 11.6 at home, 10.8 road (906 games)
Jason Kidd was 9.2 home, 8.2 road (1,391 games)
Chris Paul 9.8 home, 9.2 road (1,198 games)
LeBron James 7.5 home, 7.2 road (1,413 games)
Mark Jackson 8.3 home, 7.6 road (1,296 games)
Unsurprising most players play better at home than on the road.
Compelling evidence, thanks for providing a credible source. I definitely believe this now.
this is such a well done video imma follow for this type of content.
So here's my question as someone who knows nothing about this and used to play NBA DFS: How soon after the fact are those close calls verified? Is it that night or are there reviews the next day well after the DFS sites post their cash outs?
From what i saw next day they get verifed because i seen many times where someone had 7 assists last night then i check box score again next day and he actually ended up with 8. Its not a lot of times it happens but once every couple games for sure
Usually the stats for the first half get verified during halftime. Not unusual to see a guy walk with 6 rebounds into the the locker room and return with 5 at the start of the 3rd QT. The ones on the second half usually get verified shortly after the game
I believe that it's mostly during the game that the reviews take place. I'm only basing this, however, on my memory of following box scores for fantasy basketball. I think it's rare for a statistic to change the following day.
I've always heard John Stockton had his assist numbers inflated. I wonder when this scorekeeping system was put in place.
Oh, they are inflated. People knew that then.
No. As a fan from an opposing team, I can say those Stockton numbers are legit. The ball was always in his hands.
Nba and nfl are rig city baby ! I knew with betting becoming nearly nationwide that the house of cards would fall… these leagues and sports books would turn a huge profit without having to resort to fixing games, but as in everything else money/greed ruins everything… it’s literally the root of evil…
I like how quickly you get into the video topic!
When CP3 first started out in New Orleans, it was pretty obvious that the New Orleans stat guy was padding his assist stats.
They should expose the nba refs. And why some of them are so blind
This is actually a good thing for the NBA and all other leagues. Now that sports betting is legal and small bets on player performance is common, they have to ensure that their monitoring, recording, and auditing of individual stats are legit.
What an amazing video, so well constructed, can see the effort on the script, love it
Memphis has a weird energy surrounding the city. Anybody repping Memphis is tapped in to this same energy.
"people on reddit are not just dorks on the internet" you have time to edit that out bro
lol
scot barn
Maybe this was part of the Reddit posters elaborate plan? Make Jaren Jackson's defensive blocks well-known so he can win Defensive Player Of The Year.
Everyone in and following the league has known that for a couple of months now. This brouhaha has elevated JJJ to an icon that casual sports fans recognize 🐻
The block on Zion is JJJ stripping the ball with his hand that isn’t up. Zion was mid air as well. It is technically a block or at least a mislabeled steal
I’m a ball boy for the Cavs and there’s a Caesars sports book in the arena and we’re told you CANNOT place any bets in person or on any app while in the building
I have noticed this so many times with players not getting credit for rebounds , assists, and such. Even though it clearly was
There’s a story of the old Vancouver Grizzlies scorekeeper, I imagine before it went through 5 people, that got annoyed at the way assists were given so he gave a player any assist that could be argued the guy who he was giving the assists to recorded like 23 assists that night.
“People on Reddit are not just dorks on the internet”
That’s where u lost me bub
Amazing content as usual Casey!
Life itself is rigged
You get it.
Amen
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When you're a big market in sports, you get better treatment from the league and refs but one main priority is they always try to protect the owners
i always wondered who fact checked all the stats in a game. there’s so many stats that are being counted simultaneously it’s crazy if there are no mistakes imo.
Just subbed. Great hoop content.
That Brandon Clarke one was definelty a Jackson block lol
NBA and WWE the same! It’s call entertainment.
They aren't filed under sports entertainment tho
First time I’ve seen a video of yours. Pure fire bro. Pure fire. 🔥
Massachusetts now allows sports betting,seen yesterday
Secaucus, NEW JERSEY***
All your videos are well thought out, excellent job brother!
Makes me wonder if any of the basketball greats of the 70’s 80’s and 90’s also got there via this rig
NBA has the legitimacy as a real sport exactly like pro wrestling.
People love their illusions....some will never believe it's rigged no matter what
This video it self is a cover up
There has been some "rigging" in the Warriors and Lakers games this season especially in the past few weeks. You should try to cover this as well.
Gsw are dirty af
@@davidvickers8425 tf ???
average warriors fan
@@YummyGrape24 he meant that the warriors are rigging the shit,
@@YummyGrape24 Warriors vs Celtics 5 bad calls messed up the game (one of the refs were a celtics fan)
I’m from Australia, why is sports betting only legal in certain states ? That’s crazy
Gotta watch em all. Love the vids.
“An even better defender is coming”
Jaden McDaniels - “am I a joke to you?”
When your so good that people start making conspiracy theories about you💀
What's with the deathmask?
Watching the NBA feels different now
If u played daily fantasy u know theres multiple ways to rig events ..the most common was reported injuries or illness after lineups have already lockdd but the game hasnt started lol or random DNP, illness 1 min before tipoff..my favorite is when the guy gets 2 random foul calls in the first 5 minutes to put him in foul trouble or gets straight ejected .. its always someone that has about 40 -50percent usage ownership that night...But what is truely interesting is that our system allows businesses like this to operate, or else our economy would fail. Its big $ and thats all that matters to those that have it at the top. Enjoy your one life under their rule.
so what is keeping an NBA player or ref to skew an outcome in order to win a bet they, or their family members, placed?
Is it just me or are more people starting to become aware of professional sports rigging lately?
Nah, more butthurt fans and bettors are just trying to find other things to blame other than their team or themselves
@@STEEZY_TREV16 😴
@@Spencahhhhh
It's true, though. The only people claiming rigging are bettors and toxic bandwagon fans who can't handle a loss
pretty hard to hide it, the only thing stopping it from being obvious to everyone is people coping. a lot of people need it to not be rigged so it stays fun for them. i think it can still be fun
Because it become more obvious
The thing that most surprises me as a non-US person is that sports betting is only legal in 20 states lol how is that possible, sports betting seems perfect for the USA!
no
I don’t even particularly like the NBA, but just gotta say your voice and cadence is perfect for UA-cam. Watched the whole thing. You’d probably blow up if you expanded to general content.
I think they do it reverse. Under the leather there is metal wrapped under leather but so small you don't know difference. The rim is actually a electro magnet being able to kick it on with switch when they need a basketball to go in. All someone has to do to find out is to steal NBA game ball. Run like they never ran before , then dissect the ball to prove it's got stuff in ball to make it magnetic. Or wear magnet gloves and say hey let me take a shot. If the ball sticks , we know what's going on. I've seriously been saying this since Jordan was making every shot he took in the 90s. Vegas probably holds the switch that kicks on and off the electro magnetic rim. See those electro magnets can be fine tuned too. Like maybe they don't want a shot to go in. The reverse the magnetism so the ball won't go through rim. Ever seen some one try dunking just to see ball bounce out of rim with force. That's the electro magnet working in reverse. I know this is a funny topic but Why wouldn't a multi billion dollar industry not do use electro magnetism to dictate games life. I say for sure their doing it on all professional levels including college, especially college quadruple overtime games every game 😂
Why are you shouting at me
But dont forget about the impact nic clax has done with the nets
Why would Silver need to hold an emergency meeting if it wasn't rigged
couldn't imagine being the guy in new york being forced to watch the COVID games between the jazz and kings' 10 dayers.
All yall saying NBA is rigged but still watch. Yall too funny
Hopefully the guy who exposed all of this is still alive and well 😅😂
Did you watch the video? He spoke with him. And the guy didn’t expose anything, he was wrong about most things he posted about.
i mean if anything happened to him it'd be a pretty clear sign something is up
@@joelman1989 bro doesn’t understand sarcasm 😞
@@Hendrixxx9427 ok I do. But understand that if you just read your comment. It reads exactly like the many other conspiracy theory comments. The emojis should have given it away. That’s true.
@@alonedownthere47 Wouldn't they want that?
I thought it was a coincidence "for the first time in NBA history" scenarios occur every season.
My theory:
I think the Reddit poster is a fan of some team in the southwest division
wish I put like $1000 or something down on that JJJ bet for dpoy before the season started. Very good chances now on that nice profit.
Those are the types of bets I would actually do, keep it nice and simple. I hate all the splits or this team will win by this many points and shit like that. They make sure to skew those detailed number bets against your favor so you'll usually lose more than win.
Seacaucus, New Jersey.
Crazy how everyone talks about the missed call on lebron like they’re not gonna acknowledge that he also clearly traveled on that same play but it also wasn’t called
You legalize gambling in NBA and get surprised that people rig the games? That was apparent miles away.
Amazing storytelling!
Bballbreakdown has a review on this matter. Some of the examples are legit stat for JJJ
He basically went through all the alleged questionable calls and found maybe 2 or 3 that were wrong if I remember correctly. In some instances, the reddit user displayed a fundamantal lack of knowledge of rules.
@@MikeP_ ive watched a bunch of these dubunking channels and no one knows the rules. each channel lists 3 misscalls but each channel has their own 3 unique set of these miscalls. and they are all using the same rules but different interpretations of said rules... its a mess.
@@johnmarkson1998 yeah just like the interpretation of the “gather step” that harden uses. It is very confusing at first unless you digest it from the rule book thoroughly
This comes town to human nature, ofcourse home stat keepers fudge some numbers, just like some refs are 100% biased
Another quality content 🔥🔥🔥
What's even crazier is that this has been happening for years but it never got noticed. it took one of the poorest franchises in the world being on top for people to start digging into it.
As Mark Dice 🎲 said, this channel needs to be heated UA-cam 👍
I was looking forward to your take on this, thank you!!
Jaren Jackson was going crazy on blocks for my fantasy tho
Am hoops the goat‼️ Love the content, love from Norway my guy❤️
Growing up. I used to watch who was going to referee an NBA game. After Donahue scandal they keep it secret before a game. I used to be able to pick games based on who was calling the game. For real!
Wow thanks for sharing this info
My pleasure
Bball breakdown did a video on this where he breaks down those plays and explains why those stats went to jaren. It’s actually a good video. It would seem based on that video that the calls were correct
4:38 there are a lot of black guys in the NBA
Bad jokes aside, first video of yours I’ve seen. Not a huge NBA fan but quite enjoyed this! Have a sub!
It's been rigged from the beginning but this isn't how it's done. It's about controlling the flow.
Refs can dictate the flow, they do it in the NFL and the NBA
Game 6 2019 GSW v Rockets where rockets missed 27 3’s in a row. All the refs rigging the flow
@@marvinwilliams7938 I'm not sure shat you mean but i would have to go back and watch it
Just youtube 'rockets vs gsw finals rigged' and you'll see what I mean. Rockets missed 27 in a row but it was from the refs not calling fouls and huge point swings
@@marvinwilliams7938 yea i see what you mean now. It's obvious that officials can influence the outcome of a game by manipulating the flow via calls and non calls. A quick 2 fouls given to your best player early can effect the game immensely.