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Do Motorcycle Rallies Suck Today??? 30 Years of Rallying - What has changed???
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2021
- My father started taking me to motorcycle rallies on the back of his bike when I was a teenager. My first Sturgis was over 30 years ago, and I feel like I have seen some of the major changes that some would say has made rallies not as fun as they were in the good old days. Comment down below what you think and have seen over the years.
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I’m 50 and have been going to sturgis for over 25 years. I use to be the young guy hitting the rally. I agree with all your points as they are right on. Technology and money have really changed over the years. I use to make fun of the rv’s and toy haulers. I still camp in a tent but I get the toy haulers and rv’s as I get older. Have fun and who cares what other people say.
I think you’re right on about all of those points, especially the camera phone part.
I hate em. Can’t have fun for the damn cameras!
@@ProfessionalMonkey yeah they ruin concerts too. No one can just be in the moment.
@@davidfellows6250 exactly. You’re not enjoying if you’re worrying about the camera.
Bottom line is if you are thinking about capturing the moment on video, then you aren't in the moment. Fapping Fucktard Freaks ruin it all.
I have 3 Harleys, a golf cart, and a house. I am not rich but I spend my money on what makes me happy.
Good video I agree with you Pro Monk on these points.
Exactly. I’m not rich, I spent all my money!
I grew up with my middle class grandparents. I became an adult. Made POOR financial choices. I finally got my first Harley 02 road king police at 38, single and a teen son, 16 month daughter single dad. Piss on the haters! They have nothing better to do then be miserable, but make other people miserable. 🤣🤣
@@ProfessionalMonkey like I told my kids..... having a lot of stuff doesn't make you rich.... it makes you broke or in debt! LMAO! Our kids are spoiled and we're far from rich!
@@ProfessionalMonkey me too lolololol happy as a fuck and a broke bastard lolol but the bills are paid!!
I guess instead of making tons of money my life choice was 20+ years in the military defending all the people so you could go to rallies and enjoy your freedom as an American. Yes Vietnam wasn't my choice but I did what I had to. I've did my time and I listen to whiners all the time on how broke they are, they can't do this or that. Well.... I'll ride to Sturgis each year I can afford to and my body will still allow me to go. I will find and have found places to stay(cabin) eat and have free beer even. I fully enjoy my going to Sturgis. I've seen the change. Mr Monkey is correct with the camera phone. Put it away. That Kady is someone's old lady and she don't mind you looking but don't want her stuff all over the internet! Think about it people.
Dude I’m a Baptist Preacher and I think you and the content are TOP OF THE LINE. I binge watch you all the time. I love what you do I love what you stand for. Aces in my book.
Hi I live in Port Saint Lucie Fl when I I first moved to Hollywood in 1969 I was 19yrs old from Brooklyn NY. I had a 450 Honda that I brought down here with me. I through out the backseat of my Chevelle and took the fuck out of the bike so I was able to put the bike in the back of my car. Over the years I lived in Hollywood then to Ft Lauderdale and then Sunrise and again to Tamarac and again to Coral Springs then to Port Saint Lucie which is I still live. I’m now 71 yrs I have been riding. I now have a 2015 Harley Street Glide Special. Bike riding has been a major part of my life and I’m nowhere near done. I enjoy watching real people
I would have loved to see that Honda in the back of a Chevelle, that’s great. No doubt you’ve got some great stories. Keep riding!!!
Spot on man. Smart phones changed everything. Ruined as much as they added, if not more.
Great insight! It is really refreshing to hear a guy in the motorcycle world speak in such an articulate and relatable manner. I think you are spot on with all points. And screw the haters. It is commendable that you put yourself through school and have worked hard for everything that you have. Thanks for the great content. Keep it up!
Thank you, sir.
Two other thoughts, Electric start on motorcycles has kept old guys like me on motorcycles. I have terrible knees and ankles and would never be able to regularly kick start. 2nd, The internet has made it tremendously easy to make the claim that someone else (anyone else) isn't a real biker. If you wear a helmet or own a CVO, or wear gear with corporate brands on them....on and on and on. After over 55 years of riding, I'm a poser. Great video.
Great points! We’re all posers according to the guys with Honda Rebel 250s and live with their moms...
@@ProfessionalMonkey LMFAO
Lol lol those Dam pans kicking back,!!! I held out as long as I could with if you can't kick don't ride it,!! What a fucking Dinosaur!! I've converted love that button, @65, but held off for a LONG time, (dam moron)
And to answer you, yes rallies have changed, just as times have, ur old man and I are in the Dinosaur category, nothing is going to be as good as it was when we were the "ONES" Well now your part of the "ONES" so you guys make it BETTER than ours!! That's all, I've been on these PIGS for 50 fucking years, just switched from a 71 shovel to a Dynawg 6yrs ago NO BS, KNOW WHAT AS LONG AS WE DONT LET THIS LIFESTYLE DIE, THATS WHAT MATTERS
I purchased an antique Soviet Union Dnepr military sidecar motorcycle for cheap to restore and ride. I'm in my 54th year of riding motorcycles and started with dead 1960's bikes I fixed myself. Now that I'm retired I wanted a bike that needs constant attention like a Trophy Wife. That Dnepr motorcycle is basically what it was copied from, a 1938 BMW R-71. If it had a check engine light it would just be connected to the ignition switch and be on all the time. It uses oil because it was designed to do that. That's just the way things worked back then. It has brass valve guides, brass valve seats, and cast iron rings so it needs to suck a little oil through the valve guides to lubricate to top end. It's not enough to smoke but you must keep a check on it and keep the oil toped off. I carry oil, tool's, and spare parts with me just in case. There's even a spare wheel mounted on the back of the sidecar just like the spare tire carried in car's and trucks. It's the first motorcycle I ever had to buy 4 tires for. I've come to love it! It's the most fun motorcycle I've ever owned. Would I do it again? In a heart beat! I've found an older Ural with a blown engine the owner is thinking about selling.
I want to see pics of that bike! If you don’t mind me sharing them send them to me at damonk@professional-monkey.com
You’re 100% right on the camera phone... You will have a better time if you leave with a memory instead of a video, I promise you
You can't have both?
@@captainthruster9484 Nope.
Camera phones have ruined a lot. Period.
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Memorial Day is about the men killed in war time.
It's not about the living, that's Veterans day.
You are absolutely correct in how the rallies have changed. First trip to Sturgis from Canada was in 1978, last trip was 2018. The local rides are the only thing that has not changed and some things are better! The parties have calmed down, the numbers have increased, (dramatically!) the bands are better and the opportunity for people watching is outstanding! Good insight Mr. Monkey! (first trip was on a '59 Duoglide (panhead) last trip was on '18 FLHTKL)
Spot on observation. I was 18 in 1976, and things were certainly different. We had to learn motorcycle maintenance, (Ironhead ), and develop a high alcohol resistance. My buddies are either dead or married now. I still ride.
The point that it is easier to ride is so true. My buddies dad in his 80’s still rode a heritage with no windshield. If you asked why, he would respond windshields are for old dudes!!😂😂
Salute to all vets and I think you nailed it on the reasons things have changed. Great job
So right. I hate when my wife reach's in front of me and takes a pic and post it. I ride to be in my zone with my bros not inform everyone where I'm at. BUT I don't agree about all the rubs in our world. One left me laying on the side of the road after hitting me with blinged out road king and got away. I lost everything because dude had no respect for our way of life. But all other points I agree with that yes there some good rich hard working bikers out there. Enough said bro. Mllh&r bro.
Good vids, well thought out. I rode to Sturgis(#69) on a Sportster. Lot of guys at home thought it wasn't possible. That's nuts! I'm old enough to remember when a Triumph 650 and a Honda 750 were road bikes. One my way to Sturgis I passed a Chevy pickup in Wyoming pulling a trailer with an Ultra on it, and slowed down long enough to show the driver that he got passed by a Sportster with out of state plates. Bet he didn't share that with anybody. I'm retired now and ride an '07 Low Rider and it's not stock. Commercialism is ruling the day.
You’re a cool and real dude. Appreciate this post... PS. No need to ever explain your journey... it was YOUR journey NOT ours. Peace and love. ✌🏿
Right on.
Good form .
Really like your post. ‘75 sportster, did everything to keep it. Rally’s were a joy. Son born in ‘84, daughter in ‘89. Finally a rally in ‘03, fun was gone. Maybe me, maybe times. Didn’t feel the same, hanged with the old guys and reminisced. Good post.
Thanks. I think we have to make our own fun. It’s still there, we just have to make it ya know?
@@ProfessionalMonkey thanks man. Kids were, are, my everything. Their grown now, kiddies of their own. My younger fun days were fun, children were my everything. Son became a marine, daughter a nurse. Well worth the miss!
@@johnlabrunda3361 you done good! Thanks for bringing some good people into this world!
@@ProfessionalMonkey thanks, have fun man.
I’d have to say the change came when Discovery Channel started making all their Motorcycle based shows. That’s when stuff started becoming real commercial from what I’ve seen.
I agree 100% One more thing I'd add is the music, it has changed and maybe it is just me but I haven't changed with it. Miss Skynyrd and the likes. "That smell" takes me back! My dad too took me to rallies but will never forget Sturgis 1990, the 50th! I was there too and probably around the same age as you at the time! Epic, glorious, unforgettable, a truly cherished memory. Nothing stays the same. Stay blessed, safe travels, and appreciate you!
Thank you!!!! I also look back on the glory days. I still enjoy today, but I wish we could put the damn camera phones away...
Yeah 3rd generation to ride here. Times have definitely changed. I went worked for a hd dealer for 12 years. Customers can't even put air in tires anymore.
You hit that spot on as well Man! You can make extra cash in the summer changing oil, flipping old tires for new and doin brake jobs for the folks who own the bike but don't want to or have no ability to do the work. Craziness
Yeah but it's such a bee-ach to get to those air valves😁 fact.
They become the weekend rider dealer. Sounds dated but it's true.
You are 100% spot on when it comes to the camera phone! I've seen most if not all of your videos and this one in my opinion is the best yet!
You are spot on. I have been body painting for festivals and rallies for over two decades.
2000s it was a very relaxed attitude, people were just having fun. People hung out, with somethings to everything hanging out. I did not have an isolated booth it was just a semi open tent with a couple of chairs.
Then in 2008 one of my regulars asked me for a screen/booth after a dude popped into the tent and started snapping photos. There were 3 women in the tent and clothing above the waist was not present. Thankfully the dude ran into one of the ladies old man, when he attempting to leg it. The old man broke the camera, then the two of them went and had a chat.
Post 2010 just wow. Prudish is the only way i can describe the shift. even the body paint side really shifted. people are almost always clothed until they get into the booth. I now carry pasties as part of the service.
Now there are two parts of this story, one is the contract/business side were i can be cranking out 2 to 5 girls before noon, which noticeable shifted more around 2014/5 as these gigs became far less frequent.
But the number we are talking about here is the walkin. Pre 2010 walk in i averaged 6 full or partial upper torsos a day. Post 2010 walk in i average 1.5 every other day of an event, now the numbers get goofy because normally it is groups of two or three women at a time.
What has become the normal are flash pieces, i crank out 35 to 50 a day. If i am contracted for a job its normally around the 15 to 20 pieces of flash.
In my opinion the biggest issues are the number of people (tourist have gotten really bad) and the number of picture snap happy idiots. They have ruined a lot of the uninhibited part of festival/rally culture.
That’s really interesting to hear. I noticed the body painting change also. It’s so rare nowadays that girls who get painted are walking around charging for photos with them. It used to be commonplace!
I literally laughed out loud when you said
" you do you boo boo "
Your the best...
Copying DanDan The Fireman.
It's not the cameras, it's the internet. In the early 80's the ladies loved to have their picture taken. They didn't have to worry the whole world see it. Back then people actually rode to rallies, not just ride at the rally. If you did break down on the way, the next biker that came along would stop to see if they could help, not turn their head and act like they didn't see you, and it's way too much trouble to pull a motorhome or a vehicle loaded with bikes on a trailer over on the side of the road. It was a brotherhood back then that has been lost, that is the biggest change.
Laughlin River Run used to be the best rally west of Sturgis. Maybe for a different reason than usual. It was cheap, high rise casinos, skin, and when done riding or watching the drag races at Avi, you could park in covered parking and drink your face off and never get in trouble. Watch the parade of skin all night. Then came the shoot out at Harrahs between two MCs. It's all history now. Cancelled last year, and when and if they start back up Las Vegas Metro PD in riot gear, on horseback. kind of ended the fun. The casinos got greedy and vendors got tired of shrinking crowds. Ahhh great memories, but it will never be what it was.
That was the turning point, It was much freer before then. The cops didn't interfere unless things got too extreme -- and that bar was set really high.
When innocent people can get murdered by methed out morons then I can't blame the police for stepping up security.
I really enjoyed your show, and think you make a great point with the camera's, you can't get away from them. Even if you have a little confrontation, camera stuck in your face.
Would have to agree with most of what you said, I've been going since mid 70's riding a rigid frame panhead from Michigan. I think the greed and the attempt to make it family friendly was part of the downfall. There was a much tighter community back then. Still have a great time but now I'm old and my youthful days were so much more🤣🤣. Love your channel
I wish I had a time machine so we could all go back and tent in Sturgis city park...
I live in B.C. Canada. Rode to the Grand Canyon a few years ago to view it for the first time. 50 people on either side of me were looking at nature's spectacle through a 4 inch screen! Just take me now, Lord!
Your on point brother, I’m seven bikes deep in the past few years I lost the feeling I had when Technology wasn’t anywhere to be found, so I went back to a no frills soft tail, no computers, no navigation, nothing but wind and that’s just what the doctor ordered
Old Hank JR said it best." The hangovers hurt more than they use to" .
OK. Not that I'd put it on MY bike but that exhaust looks pretty cool. Can't wait to hear it.
I'm with you on the cameras.. and not just for Sturgis. If you see video from a concert.. everyone in the crowd has their cellphone up over their head recording.
1. the person behind you gets to look at your phone the whole time
2. you paid $300 for front row tickets just to hold your phone up and watch it on the screen while you record
Put the phone away and enjoy whatever it is you came to see.
Thanks a lot. That pipe does look pretty good don’t it?
This makes alot of sense why alot of things have changed and you've seen it progress over the years you're always on point with videos like this and we as a community appreciate it
I'm in my late 60s, and I saw that the old school bikers (myself included) stopped going to "bike runs", and started going to blues festivals, dragraces type of things.
You're right on these points and I would add that the mentality of riders has changed and freedom at rallies has changed also vendors has changed there prices and are being charged double and triple to set up shop
Kudos to you for your hard work. Most of the times it pays off.
Enjoyed the rant. On point. Still enjoy the rallies and yes, minimal pics taken. I got the memories and that's enough. You want the memories, then saddle up and go.
I've been to all the major rallies in the USA and I've been to Sturgis five times
Over the years for the most part I've enjoyed all of these events
My biggest complaint would be the greed...especially with accommodations
Now I prefer the smaller venues
Thunder in the Smokies is a wonderful small rally and it's financially manageable
For me it's not so much the shirt and the bands more the food in the riding
Hit the nail on the head on the pricing, makes it a little painful as in it's the only tent camping I'll do in a year. At $150/night for flea motels I gotta put up with a little back pain from sleeping on the ground.
Bro I love your content! Don’t listen to the haters that call you a loser and any other dumb shit. I’ve learned a lot about the difference between organizations and clubs by watching you. I also purchased a new 2021 Harley Road Glide Limited this year and having the same struggle like you with the lack of tuners. I like the way your bike is turning out and hope to see it in person one day. I’m just a south Florida motor cop just dropping you a comment and some encouragement. Keep up the good work!
I’m in West Palm, don’t pull me over! Ha!
@@ProfessionalMonkey never bro lol. I’m in St Lucie
Remember the days when you had to wait to get back home to let people know how the trip was. I agree with everything you say. We have a place in Laconia for the summer so I've been doing that Rally for over twenty years and besides cops arresting topless girls and every newbie doing a ten minute rev job the biggest change that I can remember was the early 00's when anyone who was anyone had to have a custom chopper, a bedazzled tapout shirt, flat racing sneakers and a great chiropractor. I used to work with a MC member who use to tell me the stories from the 70's Club grass drags. The cops and emt's were too afraid to enter the compound so when someone ate shit badly, they would load him on a sheet of plywood and dump them over the fence where the Emt's would take it from there. My times have changed.
On point Brother! I've been riding on motorcycles for about 55 years. I've been operating motorcycles, driving them if you will, for 49 years! I rode Hondas until 93. Been on Harleys ever since. Technology allows asshats to say shit to people from behind a keyboard, shit 99% would dare not say to your face! Most people, like me, watching videos on UA-cam just go one to another video/channel if they don't like the content, and do so without comment. Keyboard Commandos on the other hand have the need, brought about by anonymity, to say stupid shit, F them!! Love your channel and I will continue to enjoy the content you produce, fun stuff! Be safe!
I really don't understand these people that take the time to post negative comments. Its gotta be tough to keep coming up with interesting topics and a shit ton of work putting this channel together. I couldn't do it that for sure. This is why I subscribed to the channel...let you do the work. Lol
On the plus side most of us get a good laugh when you make fun of the haters so keep up the great work and stay safe.
Just came across your channel and this video...I'm a kiwi/ New Zealand...I've been riding 54 years and I absolutely agree with what you have said...and I like your videos...hopefully I will be there in 2023
Amen to the camera phone comment. I agree 100 percent.
Just found your channel. Subscribed and love the content. Respect!
Welcome to the channel, great content here for sure!
I absolutely agree with people hating, I’ve had family members hate on me because I didn’t do like a lot of other people around here and be stagnant. I’ve worked my way up and I’ve earned what I have so don’t be mad because you don’t have anything because you done nothing, life is what you make it.
The camera phone issue, it reminds me of scene in a film where a famous photographer sees what would be a beautiful cover photo and chooses not to take the photo because he just wants to stay in the moment. Taking a photo disconnects us from the moment, my home videos are horrendous because I prefer to view in real time. That’s why riding is so awesome because I feel more connected to everything and I don’t have a barrier or “lens” to separate me from my surroundings.
My name is Jerry and I am 69 years of age. Never been to Sturgis as money did not allow. I am from South Carolina where the oldest motorcycle rally is located. Myrtle Beach Bike Rally. I started riding in the early 80's when shovel heads were the thing One of the big differences in then and now, you better know how to work on your bike. Back in out day, we rode hard and did not have the bikes as of today with all the room and POWER. I own a brand new Tri Glide with less then 500 miles on it. Totally different style of riding. Myrtle Beach back in the 80's and 90's was the place to be. Yes we all went to Daytona but even it was no where near the fun Myrtle Beach was. It was a huge rally from Murrels Inlet to Little River. The whole Myrtle Beach Grand Strand. Vendors were everywhere and the crowd was huge. Hells Angles would rent out the whole Holliday Inn and fly their chapter flags from the hotel balconys. Then came black people. They always had their rally two weeks after Myrtle Beach Rally. The two did not mix. Then the blacks started showing their ass trying to destroy the beach they knew white people loved. Myrtle beach is a family beach when bikes are not in town. Places would have their women on. the backs of bikes as naked as the law would allow in front of children and other vacationers that did not know this show would be there. They. would go into restaurants, run up a huge bill and walk out never paying for the meal. The following years, the restaurant owners would close up during black week in fear of losing money. Here come the NAACCPP. So the Myrtle beach city council stopped allowing vendors to work in the city limits. They even tried to close down the roads but the SCDOT stopped that. So after all the black bull shit and destruction of our beautiful Myrtle beach, white people now have their rally in Murrells Inlet south of Myrtle Beach city limits and N week two weeks later is in North Myrtle beach. Our rally will never be the same again thanks to so called people acting like animals All they care about is breaking the law and destroying our beach.
Do you recall Malcom Forbes putting up his Harley shaped hot air balloon during the 50th? Back when photogs would prowl main with their 35mm SLR film cameras, it was considered polite etiquette to ask the ladies if they would mind having their picture taken which was then followed with a tip of a buck or two or five....
You are right with the technology. I have been riding for 40++++ years. No riders are sitting under bridges anymore because of the weather apps. Here in South Florida out at Club Shell or J&S Fish Camp you can do a count down and everybody hops on their bikes at the same time.
That’s funny. The app and everyone jumps. I’ve seen it.
It was 1994 "The Rub Invasion" we called it. That is when Harley's became cool and Harley started with the price increases. Rallies are different now for the old timers because we had a way different way of thinking and still do. We rode to the edge and jumped right over it. We were hard partying, vulger and down right tramps. Some of the stuff we did people would freak out about now . Sturgis, Daytona and all the majors now are corporate and over regulated. You want a real party, the way it used to be, go to a local weekend bash. Close as you're going to get to the way those rallies used to be . Good Vid
The campground I stay at at Leesburg is like that. Feels like years ago. It’s pretty damn wild at night there...
You can buy any style of used Harley made in the last 25 years for $5000 all day long. Harley's goal should be as a used bike dealer that happens to sell some new bikes. Cyclefish helps you find smaller more laid back rallies.
🛑🛑 Totally Agree about the Picture Phone Comment👍💯.
Its ok to put “images in the spank bank”, but “posting and sharing photos” goes against the “code of the rally”.
What goes on “inside” the rally, “stays” in the rally 👍🍺💯.
I agree 100% that the phone camera has killed fun times. No one wants to end up on UA-cam having fun doing dumb shit, embarrassing shit, potentially borderline illegal shit, or revealing shit while letting loose and having some fun.
What happens at the rallies, should stay at the rallies. If someone wants to experience the rallies, go to them, share your experiences only by telling your stories, but don’t share with videos or pictures!!! That’s what makes the old head stories so great. You’re not sure if you can believe them unless you go and experience it for yourself. Then verbally share your experiences. I’m not saying to ban phones from rallies, but you go to experience the rallies for yourself, not for other people. If they want to see what fun it was, maybe they should have went there with you.
I'm an old guy. Nail on the head!!
People are so busy trying to capture the memory that they miss out on both the moment and the actual memory
Great commentary. Been riding to rallies and events since the early 90's. I used to be on the "trailer week" train whereby you shold be "riding" your bike to rallies, but my tune has changed... a bit. Everyone is allowed to enjoy a rally the way they want to. They are making their own fun. And sometimes, when yo are thousands of miles from nowhere, getting there on a bike, depending on your health, time etc, may not be doable. What drives me nuts is the dude (or "dudette") who pulls up in an RV with bikes AND a golfcart, rolls the bike off the trailer, and drives around in the golfcart all week or weekend, never even getting on the bike. I noticed way too much of that at the big rallies, but at my first SmokeOut, EVERYONE was riding. As the event grew, and had to be held at a dragstrip, it too, became "trailer week" with all kinds of golf carts. It got so bad in the event area (the event and camping area wear split by a fence), that they banned golfcarts from the event side as the traffic of carts and people jammed the whole area up. I think the golf cart/trailer queen saga gets worse the bigger the event gets. Little Sturgis was the same the first time I went in 2019. A sea full of trailers when I rode around the campground! I know someday I'll have to trailer to the distant events, but for now, I try to ride my bike wherever and whatever event I go to. It's part of the adventure! Going to try and stick to the smaller, regional events where most everyone is still riding. I'll still be welcoming to anyone I meet at an event who wants to talk, but I do what I do and yo do what yo do! Ride safe everyone!
Damn! Missed a few letters in the words (I'm my own worst critic!)LOL!
Now that I agree with. You know I take my RV and I have my bikes and golf cart. But we are on the bikes all day every day. I have seen the bikes that mysteriously never move, and that I don't get...
@@ProfessionalMonkey Forgot to add: The worst thing about most rally campgrounds, and it's not the people driving the RV's that have control, but there REALLY should be a separation of riders who camp and the RV's. There's nothing worse than riding a few hundred miles each day to get to a destination, only to be surrounded by a bunch of randomly scattered RV's with the generators running all night so they sleep in air conditioning, while riders have to try to sleep and drone those generators out. Again, not blaming the guys in the RV's as most are unaware of this "bitch". It would be nice if the campground owners had separate areas for each. Bikes and people generally quiet down in the wee hours, while generators don't. BTW, watched your video on what not to do in a biker bar or "how to get your ass kicked!". Great advice. I don't belong to a formal club (rather an informal group of long time riders and partiers who grew up together in the same county, probably between 75 and 100 people), where none of us wear patches, "cuts" or anything and just be ourselves. I never really thought about the "Lone Wolf" or "Independent" patches being offensive, but it does LOOK like you are trying to belong to a club without belonging to a club. It's paradoxical!
You ain’t no big pile of crap man…Your a big pile of Love!
I Wholly Agree, as a Former Free Lance Photographer for Born to Ride and Other magazines I Think Biggest Change is it Went from Down to Earth Bikers that mostly worked on their own stuff and rode whenever possible or had a Bike as Only transportation and Rally's Today are Yuppies, Sport Bikes, and a Commercial Event where the only Rat Bikes are Expensive Custom Models Created in a Boutique Shop. And Riding a Harley , Indian or their Classic was a Rebellious Action and Not Todays Socially Acceptable PC Cultured Social Event
Been riding 50+ years. Started hitting some rallys in the 80s. Agree 100%. One difference I see is the younger ones. Like you said, in the 70s and 80s you had to know a bit to ride. These kids today don't. Not that we were better, but we at least had to be able to problem solve. Many can't. Like your channel. Keep up the good work!
You are the “Devil,”. LOL!
Ok, I’m older and from Nebraska so my first rally in Sturgis was mid 80’s as a teen go off to the army. It’s changed but I will still go.
What would the world be like without haters. Keep doing what your doing
Today world is full of haters and jealous people..
Respect to you. You are mature beyond your years. I am sixty-six years old and owned, ridden H-D since I was fifteen. I can relate to what you say. Can't say that about many on the Tube.
Thank you, sir. I appreciate that a lot.
Camera phones and the internet have ruined everything not just rallies . If they were around when I was coming up I would still be in Jail .
One thing that helped make the change for Harley was the blockhead , best motor ever , with the 5 speed transmission . Didn't get one tell 1995 before that I had a shovelhead ............
Those without the work ethic to achieve what they want are always the ones complaining about what other people have
When I was a kid we had a rally north of us and Harleys came through all weekend. As a kid and not knowing I figured these folks were just the average joe worker. But like you stated these bikes can be expensive. This was late 80's-early 90's. Lots of the guys coming in had good jobs like Dr and Lawyer and such. Secondly the camera phone has ruined life. Glad my big parting days were pre phone and internet.
You sir are an entertaining individual. I respect the fact that you are a member of your un-named organization :-). You have made me choke on beverage of choice from laughing so much. You sir are a real individual, and I appreciate you and your channel.
Thanks a ton!
Ditto!
I appreciate the video, as a younger guy I hate social media to the point to where I deleted it, people act happier than they are , and they don’t know how to connect anymore,
Yep, I worked my ass off to get what I've got, and I try to enjoy all of it.
You are pretty much spot-on, on your comments.
Thanks, Monk.
In 1990 I was 40 years old and had a 2 year old son and an old iron head Sporty so there was no going to Sturgis for me. A few years ago, with a newer bike, I decided it was time. A check online showed me that even motels 30 miles from Sturgis wanted sack loads of money for crappy rooms, nice places wanted a years salary for a night (yes, I exaggerate). So I decided no Sturgis. Camping is not an option due to health concerns and I do not have or want an RV. I go to other, local rallies and probably have as much fun as I would at Sturgis and I watch online at what others post. Too bad I didn't have a biker dad.
I am with you, I completely understand. Local rallies are great, and no BS you might not be missing much... I am fortunate I know for sure, and am thankful.
I agree with everything you said . Especially about not to judge people if they’ve got a nice Harley and a bit of money I’ve just bought a 21 street glut special people say how lucky I am it’s not luck I’m 57 years old and I’ve worked my butt off all my life to get the things for my family and me. keep the good work up ride safe. Lee 🇬🇧
You’re right it’s not luck it’s WORK.
You nailed with phone comments. I feel sorry for the kids now days. Nobody gone be able to tell story’s anymore.
The younger generation can’t do shit without a phone. I went to a stag and had to take phones away from these twenty something kids
In the 80's I got my license and a Summer Job. I worked in Wiers Beach Laconia. First as a head lifeguard at the Surf Coaster water park, and then stocking the Beer cooler at the Jackson Star Market.
Riding down Paugus Bay during Bike Week back then was surreal for a teen. I didn't get to participate much in those days as I was working my tail off summers to pay for school. But I never forgot the fun that was Bike Week and once I graduated, I made annual pilgrimages back to the Lakes Region. I still go out and ride the twisty back roads I knew from my youth. I still climb Agiocochook (Mt. Washington) and really miss the "bikes only" day.
But most of all, I enjoy parking on Lake Ave and just watching people.
The 100th Laconia Bike Week is this June. Going to be a mob scene. Already have my reservation for lodging. May the weather gods shine favorable on us.
Love your channel Dude, regular guy, common man thoughts. Keep it up.
I'm sixty and I haven't been back to Sturgis since 1995 and I'm heading up this year. It will probably be a shock how different it is now.
No doubt. I hope you still enjoy it!
Some great points here, Monkey. I made it to my first Sturgis rally this year (2023) I rode down on my carb'd EVO and tent camped at the Chip in the mud. I got home and realized I only took 1 picture and that was of mine and my buddy's bikes buried in the mud, lmao. Absolutely no shame in having new bikes and RVs and trailering. My buddies that I rode with were on a newish Road Glide and a new Challenger. It's all good, you do you. I enjoy the experience of being different and that things might go wrong. I've rebuilt 2 Evo engines in my garage and enjoy wrenching and trying different crap to make it mine. I could pay cash for a new CVO, and someday I might. But I like the older stuff that you don't see much of anymore.
The times change no doubt. I'm a retired truck driver now after 40 years in it and women used to flash their glorious bosoms at us and it was much appreciated that ended when the camera phone arrived everybody was afraid of being posted online. Yep that little device is just like Pandora's box it can cause a lot of drama.
If you do not have people constantly criticizing you, hating on you, and always pointing out your faults! You are not doing your job as a content created!!!! I wish, that I could do this, but working in an Operating Room kind of does not allow me to do so! Hence like your point on “Time” (in a different sense), I just do not have much free time, and I want to ride in my free time! Anyway, please allow me to applaud you for what you are doing, I LOVE your content, I loved this video, and I really appreciated the video you did on the “Battleship Grey” Harley you did. Because, you went and helped a dude out!! Not only did you point out what was wrong with the bike, you also showed how it had everything you would want to see, if someone did change pegs to floorboards, the tuner, and the rain sock! Plus, you also noted, the other two bikes the dealer had available! Once again, you are doing everything correct in my opinion, because those who criticize you, want to take time and talk shit, throw shade on you, and hate on you! You are not relevant, you are boring, and no one truly cares if you do not have those type of Turds showing up to comment in your videos!!!! You are doing a killer job, I am a new subscriber, like I stated above, I applaud you Sir, and I appreciate Karen and your content!!!!
Thanks a ton, I appreciate it.
In Australia we don't have rallies like over there and if we did the cops would probably shut them down. But I agree the Harley's today are easier to ride. For over 30 yes I had nothing new than an evo. Couple of years ago I bought my first twin cam because I am too old for my old bikes. The road king is great I will ride that thing regularly for 8 to 10 hours straight and feel no pain ( except the neck. I hate helmet laws) and apart from oil changes, and rebuilding the starter and rear master cylinder I have clean hands. Keep up the great vids
I went to Sturgis in 1983 I was 12 years old.
“You do you,BooBoo”. Hilarious. I’m definitely gonna use that one!😂
I've been street riding since 1976, so I have a few rallies under my belt. You absolutely nailed it on the evolution of the motorcycle rally. I too have witnessed this with my favorite rally Laconia. I just never figured it out the way you did. I just blamed the cops. So simple yet so undeniably true. It's Sturgis for me this year, I sincerely hope I have the good fortune of bumping into you.
Right on!
East coast sturgis apple mountain rally. If you haven’t, check it out. Old school camping rally in the mountains where if you take photos, you get your ass kicked. Good old school fun with a cold beverage…or 72
Camera phones...damn....I am 61 and I thank God daily those things weren't around when I was riding back in the late 70s-80s. No one needs to know some of the crap I did back then!
No one wants evidence!
You nailed it. Also, our preferences, as individuals, change over time. Sometimes we just 'grow up' and don't do some of the things we use to, nor want to put up with the inconveniences and/or travelling long distances on a bike when the car is so much more comfortable (especially when the Mrs no longer wants to ride that far). Also, the folk (those characters, the group of friends) we use to ride with and socialise with are no longer around so the atmosphere, the 'self entertainment' we once experienced is no longer there. It's not the rally, per se, it's the company we have and/how we travelled to the rally has changed. Once, the 'journey' was just as or more important than the 'destination', perhaps things have changed where the destination (ie. just getting there) is more important than the journey. For me, 'the riding' remains the most important bit, the rally is for socialising and catching up with those same folk that you see and only meet up with at rallies.
Nah you tell it as is, we need more of that.
The camera phone is a blessing and a curse. Love to be able to take pictures of rideing, the guys, the bikes and other memory stuff. Knowing how to be an adult and use my camera for memories and not to humiliate others is wrong. Keep the videos coming. Hopeing to make it to sturgis in the near future.
The biggest change I've seen in the motorcycle culture is definitely reliability. And the second biggest is the general obesity of the modern bike rider and rally goer. 1989 was my first rally and the pics from that summer show skinny, fit people fixing bikes on the side of the road.
I think commercialism can be added to the change from old school rallys
I totally agree about the camera phone, as well as everything you touched on
think you are right on all you're points and i think one major thing is not many people customize there bikes themselves (build) and where have all the the older biker gone thanks I have been ride since used bikes were 1.00 a cc. keep it up phone cameras SUCK
I was growing up in the late 60s and through the 70s. Men on Harleys and women with tattoos were on the edge, blue color and 1%ers. They weren't the kind of people your mom wanted you hanging out with. While they may have been on the edge of society, they were mostly good people and accepted outsiders, it didn't matter if I was that teen ager on a Suzuki. They didn't have any problem with others, at a rally, drink, smoke, BS and ride around was the number one goal. It seems as the H-D buying craze started in the 1980s, having a Harley was a status symbol. Being a biker seemed like a way for these folks to have a life outside of their office. They weren't a problem except for H-D dealerships starting to raise prices and expand by adding boutiques and accessory lines that were out of the price range of most riders except for the new yuppies. Most were older but like I said, not bad guys, not trouble makers and no swelling ego. The younger group that came after the yuppies are the guys with the attitudes, "if you aren't on a Harley, you are a POS." At rallies, poker runs, and organized rides, they are the guys who always seem to want to start a fight to show that they are bikers. They are the guys that do stupid shit like them and a few buddies riding 8 abreast effectively blocking Interstate 10 near Orlando riding 40mph. If you are from the Orlando area, traffic on 10 normally runs about 90. I have been to Sturgis, Daytona, and a few others, probably never will again. There are just too many idiots on motorcycles now. It seems like 90% of them are out to prove something either with a bare knuckles brawl or street racing. None of which interests me. Bars that have stepped up their drink menus to include $15 mojitos, $5 beers, are ridiculous. For the money I would spend there in a few hours, I can buy a bottle of Johnny Walker or a couple of cases of beer and sit at home and watch biker related content on you tube with no danger of some drunk biker running into me while I sit at a light or getting mixed up in a bar fight. For me, it is the caliber of people who have changed. Bikers seem to be as fragmented as the rest of society and protective of their borders.
All very good points. Thanks for weighing in... the old dudes aren’t playing a character, some of the young dudes are overplaying one...
I like your channel and your videos. Keep it up man.
All your points are correct, it seems it's more about selling t-shirts and motorcycle parts than partying, plus cops don't have the sense of humor they used to either,
Been to 26 Sturgis rallies. You said it perfectly
Great video. New to the channel. Been riding for 30 yrs. Just bought my first Harley a 2015 Road King. Found this video very intuitive and I think right on the money. Never been in a motorcycle club but it seems like it could be fulfilling. Enjoying the content keep it up.
Wow, great thoughts Monkey. Agree 100% with the people below too. I'm 51 and Sturgis 1990 was my first, except I drove a 67 Mustang to the Chip and worked there for 11 days for a vendor. My first and LAST time in the Chip. It was the wild west back then and it damn near killed me when I was 20! LOL! Let's say not much sleep. I've been to Sturgis and other smaller Midwest rallies since then and the vibe has changed a lot. The camera phone should be banned, period. I know lots of women who would like to let their "parts" out to breath at rallies that tell me they wont now with all the idiots with the phones. Another thing is nobody stops at a bar and talks to each other anymore, they have their noses in the damn phone. It's a HARD 10+ hr. ride for me to Sturgis, and I'm going to EXPERIANCE the Black Hills, the events, and talk to people and meet new friends, not look at stupid shit on a phone.
One more thing. Even at my age I sometimes feel like a "younger" or median age person at the big rallies because younger people are not riding like the generations before them. Motorcycles were real popular with every generation through Gen-X, but Millennials and younger don't ride in near the numbers we do. Even the AMA is concerned. Food for thought. Cheers. P.S. There are some old videos of Rallies like Sturgis from the 70's and 80's on UA-cam that show what the old days were like.
Mr.Monkey i love your videos man great talk great entertainment Awsome bikes you have alot of great suggestions your look on bikes biker life and just life in general is the same as mined so glad i found this channel !!!!! Keep up the awesome videos love here in Tennessee!!!