Everything Wrong With CinemaSins: Frozen
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- I've wanted to do a video on a movie I don't particularly like, just to prove I'm not butthurt that CinemaSins ruined my favorite movie. Now Frozen isn't a bad movie, it's just something I don't care for. For a while, I hated it, because I was mad that it got so popular, though I eventually got out of that, because I realized that was stupid. Rewatched it for this video, and now I think it's just ok. Still don't think it deserved all its popularity, but hey, it does have its fans, which is why I'm fine with doing this video. And heck, since I don't like it, I don't have to worry about getting "too attached", I can just judge CS and the movie objectively, so that's nice. Longest description ever, but this is the longest EWW video I've ever done, because not only did they sin it once back in 2014, they sinned it again 8 years later for their 10th anniversary. So I decided to do both in the same video.
Disclaimer: I don't have much ill will towards CinemaSins, I just want to point out the many mistakes they've made in their videos.
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Ok, I am so sorry for all those people who saw that community post, and were hoping to see this sooner. UA-cam was just being annoying, and blocking the video, because of "copyright reasons." I spent forever blurring every clip they didn't want to show, one at a time, but then I accidentally blurred too much of the darn video, so I figured "screw it, I'll do it myself." So I deleted the video, and re-edited it with a Frozen poster, every time the clip lasts for at least 8 seconds. I know it's annoying, and it's not how I wanted you guys to see this, but UA-cam forced my hand. I genuinely feel bad for you guys that I can't give you the video I want to make. I really want to, but UA-cam just has to be a pain in the butt. Again, I'm really sorry, I wish I could do better, I really do!
It's okay, and I'm sorry you had to deal with all that, and that's honestly pretty odd that happened because I myself didn't have to deal with copyright issues with my past two videos (a remake of my Princess and the Frog video and Luca).
no worries, man, we get it!
+1 sin for you for not pointing out Jeremy called sven a moose when hes clearly a reindeer
Oh my GOD how much i hated that... I can understand getting it confused with an elk BUT A MOOSE!?
+1 sin for you for not capitalizing the S in Sven. He's a reindeer, but it's still a name.
18:20
Forgot a sin (maybe?) Cinema sins calls Sven a moose when actually he’s a reindeer. (Which both Reindeer and Moose do exist in Norway which Ariendelle in Frozen was inspired from which I get the mixup but still sinful)
Also the second time cinema sins talks about how Elsa doesn’t tell Anna the truth about her powers, she literally can’t lmao. She can’t tell her in front of the entire kingdom without putting herself in danger, and Anna refused to talk to Elsa alone. It’s entirely possible that Elsa was gonna tell her when she asked to talk to her alone, but Anna refused, and Elsa can’t say anything in front of Hans, who she already distrusts because he wants to marry her sister despite knowing him for a day. So. There’s that
33:16, I’m glad you said that because Olaf was willing to die to save Anna earlier “some people are worth melting for” and that raises the question “why didn’t that count as an act of true love?” given that this movie is about non-romantic love. The expanded material might explain that but (as far as I can tell) this movie doesn’t
Funnily enough, CinemaSins said that in the re-sin, and I didn't have a rebuttal.
@@captainvader921 If I were to speculate then I would guess that Olaf is the kind of heroic soul who would do that for practically anyone but even that would be a stretch since he explicitly says “some people are worth melting for” implying that it’s because it’s her. It’s still a good scene
IMO It's because Olaf's made from the same ice magic that's killing Anna.
@@tehesprite502 Could be
Tbf, this could be chalked up to another misunderstanding between the characters so that Disney could have another subversion of expectations. We've already seen how Anna and the others took Grand Pabby's instructions of "only an act of true love can thaw a frozen heart" and incorrectly assumed the solution was romantic love. I think it's possible there could've been another misunderstanding at play here about WHO was supposed to be performing the act of true love---Anna et al incorrectly assume that someone else needs to perform an act of true love FOR Anna, when the real answer was that ANNA was the one who needed to perform the act of true love. The subversion, therefore, would be that rather than being the damsel in distress saved by her prince/love interest, instead Anna saves herself.
At least, that's always been my interpretation of it. 🤷♀
Nice video of you covering both Frozen videos. I wasn't guessing this movie specifically, because Jay Exci and Luke did it already, but you covered the re-sin, too, when no one else has, as Th3Birdman only sinned an old and remade video two or three times so far. Also, your reactions about the re-sin and realizing the movie is a decade old were absolutely flawless!
It always drove me nuts how easily the saws cut through the ice. I realise it's a cartoon, but it just looks so wrong to me when they cut two entire feet with a single downstroke.
Missed SinSins:
3:58 They closed everyone out of the castle. Why would Anna know they had 8,000 salad plates if they never needed them?
8:20 Even if he wasn't a living snowman, Olaf startled her. This was a reaction, and a very common one in IRL to being startled.
10:20 Olaf called him "Marshmallow" because both snow and marshmallows are white, soft, and fluffy.
15:22 Jeremy thinks an actual camera is being used to film this.
15:30 Claims the ice is too thin to stand on, then shows that the ice is actually over a foot thick (15:57).
16:15 Suggests that professional ice cutters don't know how to properly check ice thickness for safety before cutting it.
16:41 Ice IS stronger than 100 men. Go and take 100 men and have them repeatedly punch a block of ice, see which breaks first.
26:41 No, she doesn't know his foot size, but she's saying it doesn't matter, so she doesn't need to.
27:57 Probably to the castle of ice at the top of the mountain. Just cause we can't see it at this angle doesn't mean they can't.
29:52 Kristoff was raised by the trolls, who know this magic stuff, so he probably knew too and recognized the symptoms.
31:09 This isn't a heel turn, Hans never changed. He was putting on an act of being loving and compassionate to trick her.
32:17 Claims Disney won't show perma-death after having shown Elsa and Anna's parents die.
32:33 Tell that to the shipper freaks who romantically ship Elsa and Anna together. Yes, shippers can be really weird.
32:50 Metal can crack if temps get too cold. We literally see the sword freeze up and crack for a split second before it shatters.
Its honestly really frustrating to watch one guy miss the point of a movie entirely and think he sounds so intelligent by critiquing things he's completely wrong about.
And questioning magic and cartoon logic? Neither of them are real, they literally have no reason to conform to real life logic omggg
12:25, though I find that in certain areas (such as the Hans villain twist) its “deconstruction” of classic Disney fairy tales actually works against it
16:55 Man, he’s *really* not gonna like that one production of _Patience_ where there’s only, like, 6 lovesick maidens when the lyrics clearly state there’s 20.
Jeremy being inconsistent on whether Sven is a reindeer but still calling him a moose for no reason makes me realize something. Doug Walker has a better knowledge of animals than Jeremy. Yeah I said it. Don’t get me wrong. Both men have put their feet in their mouth with getting things wrong about animals but at least Doug used to acknowledge when he got stuff wrong (emphasis on used to).
22:58 alright I'll give it a pass but only because I suspect Jeremy inserted that sin solely for the "Defying Gravity" joke
I can't believe I used to watch and actually like CinemaSins at some point since it's really painful and just angering to listen to him complain constantly and add a sin because he didn't understand or purposely chose to not understand something or follow the story or put two and two together and it's infuriating listening to him sin and insult Frozen and honestly just all movies in general for the most stupid reasons and act like he's so clever and smart.
also you can very clearly see how much he's changed from the original Frozen one and then the remake because the original had plenty of unnecessary sins but dear God the remake just instantly felt like anything at all came up on screen and he would sin it just because he wants to and for the sake of it.
also something else I really disliked is how many times he gives the movie a sin because the writers didn't decide to kill a character when again it's a kids movie and of course they're not going to kill any of the characters and let's be honest if they did decide to kill Anna or kristoff he would have sinned it anyway.
also it's insanely annoying how he literally calls anything and everything a trope and constantly says it as a bad thing to where I swear a character can't even walk or breathe without him probably calling it a trope.
again I can't believe I used to watch and actually like CinemaSins at some point because all they do is complain and criticize literally everything and only being negative and then want to throw a temper tantrum when someone dare criticizes them and they also just ruin movies for people.
Another great video, and I'd like to say two things:
1. While I didn't assume that this would be the one you'd be doing, this is one of the five Disney movies with Alan Tudyk that I've done (along with Wreck-It Ralph, Big Hero 6, Moana, and Encanto), so I did think that if it was one of those five, it'd have been nice to see your perspective on another CinemaSins video that I've done.
2. I too have done videos on movies that I didn't particularly care for or like (an example of the latter is The Nut Job, and The Hunchback of Notre Dame is an example of the the former, and I know a lot of people love that movie, but it just didn't really click with me).
I like let go but being overused does not change that
6:04 So... is Jeremy not aware that people keep secrets from each other?
Such a Great video! I hope it gets more views, it deserves it :D
This is my favourite Disney series!
@Captain Vader, Great video (though no one will ever match Jay Exci’s “salad plates” sketch.)
11:01, I’m not defending CinemaSins but very little of how the Rock Trolls are portrayed makes me give any credence to Kristoff calling them “love experts.” It might be something we’re meant by the movie to think Kristoff is wrong about but if that we’re the case then it wasn’t well-expressed
That's not what they were saying. He said "ok, so these trolls are love experts, when did "saving people from icy blasts to the head" enter the picture?" My guess is that they're saying the trolls can't have multiple purposes and abilities, and I was saying that was a dumb idea.
And besides, they accurately figured out that Anna and Kristoff were a good couple.
@@captainvader921 Yeah. I get your criticism of CinemaSins (hence my saying I wasn’t defending them.) It’s things like them knowing you can’t marry someone you just met because they’re “love experts” and immediately trying to get Kristoff and Anna to marry each other when they show up undermines that description. (I get that might have been the joke.) And they’re saying that he’s a “Fixer Upper” with a “thing about reindeer” that’s “outside of nature’s laws” pretty clearly was intended as a joke (by the writers) but that being part of their case for Kristoff to Anna makes their description as “love experts” questionable. At least when they interpret “act of true love” as “true love’s kiss” the movie is open about them being wrong but at that point their track record doesn’t really bear out the “love experts” description. Sorry about the tangent
No you're good, it is something that I've never really thought about. I think it's possible that maybe they figured out love before, which is where Kristoff gets this idea, but I'm also not sure what that could've been exactly. It's also possible that they just told him, and he just took their word for it. Just a few guesses, but I'll admit they're a bit of a stretch. Now I'm thinking that's probably an actual sin that they should've mentioned.
20:28, nothing whatsoever. I suspect CinemaSins is confusing Frozen 2 with Once Upon a Time since in Once Upon a Time, Elsa’s mother is the Snow Queen’s sister and knew how her magic worked from a deal with Rumpelstiltskin but it still has its version of the main plot of Frozen be essentially identical to the original movie minus the singing
On the "teaching all the wrong lessons" sin, it's actually a myth that touching ducklings makes the mother reject them IIRC. Also on Elsa having the stamina to run up a mountain, it's called Adrenaline!
1:03 he’s right, but not for the reason he thinks. That is really their way of keeping Mickey out of the public domain, and it only sort of worked.
Cool ❄❄Video!
I actually got what the movie would be right
Could you do everything wrong with Ice Age next?
I am *_SICK AND TIRED TO F***ING DEATH_* of;
*_1)_* People always calling him "Neo"; His _The Matrix_ character's name. *_HIS NANE IS KEANU REEVES, TIMMADDOG!!!_*
*_2)_* People acting like he - *_His_* _The Matrix_ *_character, Neo, specifically_* - is the greatest person on Earth!!! Barack Obama legalized gay marriage!!! So he's *_WAY_* better than Keanu Reeves!!!
Um... CS were referring to Neo, not Keanu Reeves. They were taking Anna's quote "what if I meet the One," and using that to make a Neo joke. And what does your second point have anything to do with this video?
I didn't skip ahead to 0:39. You can't tell me what to do.
Same
Also, if I'm remembering Frozen 2 correctly, Anna and Elsa's parents did go to Northuldra to try and find a solution to Elsa's problem.
Granted, that idea probably wasn't on the minds of the writers when they made the first movie, but Jeremy should have known about that during the re-sin.
6:21, either he’s thinking about the source material or he fixated on “no right, no wrong, no rules, I’m free”
I doubt he thought of the book, because "books don't matter" to them
@@captainvader921 True. Though he’s not always consistent with his “the books don’t matter” rule
15:29 Either that was a bad joke or nobody at CinemaSins, the channel dedicated to movies, knows how 3D animation works. Because, at the risk of pointing out the obvious, neither a real camera nor a camera person were necessary to stage that shot.
3:21 I'm glad that jeremy didn't grow up with neglectful guardians or family, or even just family that made an active effort to ignore him, but he doesn't have to rub that in our faces
1:57 man I REALLY hate it when my animated movies.... have animation! I just want to stare at a still picture of the main characters while an audio book of the movie plays!!
3:19 Also, it seems like Anna and Elsa were close before the incident, so maybe they just chose to share a room.
what the hell in the re-sin he sounds so full of hate, turns out hating things for 10 years all the time sucks the life outta you! who woulda guessed
28:25... um... so you're okay with deceiving someone into helping you by not telling them that a side-effect of your mission will result in their death?
(Yeah I know Elsa created a mini snow flurry to follow him around and keep him cold later on, but the characters at the time didn't necessarily know that)
I'm not okay with that, Anna is. This is one of those cases of me stating the reasoning in-universe, but not me necessarily agreeing. I think locking the castle was a bad idea too, but I still get why they did it.
@@captainvader921 Ah, ok I understand.
what does eating an apple have anything to do with being an asshole, Jeremy
And why are you, my guy? 33:49
23:09, I think he just said that to reference Wicked
Also, one thing we now have in common is that we both have made an EWW video that is more than 30 minutes long (though the only difference is that mine is me sinning myself, though I do give sins to CinemaSins as well).
Also, I watched your take on the original Frozen video, and I noticed that one sin where Jeremy says he'd hit an animated character. See, when I watched the video and wrote for it, there was a cut there, which made me think they must have cut that sin out. Just found that interesting
@@captainvader921 That is interesting, and that’s the case for a few of mine as well, and like I said before, that’s mostly because I think about feedback I’ve gotten and think it’s best to just edit it out. And even when it does leave some of the clip in, I just leave it like that because otherwise more editing would make the audio go off sync and I’d have to remake it (which I did for Sonic and The Lion King).
@@captainvader921Also, I’d like to give you a heads up that whenever you watch my Turning Red video after you do your video on the movie, there is a cut almost four minutes in, and that’s because there was something I put in that I ended up regretting, so I edited it out, but left a second of the clip in.
4:10, Fair point but nothing will ever top the sketch Jay Exci did about that Cinema Sin
Agreed. I watched it right after, and I was jealous that I couldn't come up with something like that.
I’m going to give you two sins for not realizing that CinemaSins actually pronounces Anna and sauna correctly
@@rasmuspetervammenrsns3353 I didn't say anything about the way he said sauna. And that is not how they say Anna's name in the movie, so he did mispronounce it that one time
@@captainvader921 The MOVIE mispronounced the names
I don't know about sauna, but I googled Anna, and people pronounce it differently depending on what country they're from, similar to how British people say car or park with the AH sound. The movie pronounces Anna this way because it takes place in Europe, so they were being accurate. So Jeremy should've done this, since this isn't in America.
9:42, okay but being able to create life is quite a power for a character to have so I get thinking that that overpowers Elsa.
Around half of our population can do that…
@@the_otherworldly Not in that way
3:07, he’s talking about X-Men right?
That's my personal guess, especially since around that video's launch, HISHE had an alternate ending where Elsa went to Professor X's school.
@@captainvader921 Thanks.
13:53, I’m going there. Tangled is better
Agreed
@@captainvader921 Same, though to me, both movies are a 9/10.
Looks like we got a troll right here then, folks. 30:20
face reveal video
I've shown my face plenty of times before this in trailer reactions, tier lists, and others. I don't think it's that big of a deal that you guys know what I look like.
@@captainvader921 Oh ok. I'm new to your channel. I was very surprised that you don't even have 1K subs. People need to get their acts together and subscribe.