Hi, people who watch videos on youtube. If a video is only in 360p, it means youtube is still processing it. We export in 4k, we're not going to put out videos with terrible quality. Give it a min to process.
36:05 Amen. I own the 6D Mark II. It's limited, sure, but everything you said after, especially Glass Glass Glass, and knowing what you're doing, compensates for it. It's does the job.
We currently shoot weddings with a 5d4, a7r3, and 1dxmk2. The best tracking, focus, and reliable images are still the from the 1dxmk2. Still get more keepers from the 5d4 with the 24-70ii vs the a7r3 with the GM 24-70, but most likely due to the ability to fine tune focus points on the fly faster in the DSLRs. Favorite camera to use for stills is definitely the Sony. I can't wait for the next evolution in mirrorless, but for now I need the the ability to adapt to changing conditions of weddings and nothing does it better for me than the 1dxmk2. I have used the a9 and I still have trouble switching settings at the speed of the cannon. Missing a shot can be everything, that's where the 1d and d5 prove their worth
You can't beat the speed of the 1D X series - and overall ergonomics of the 1D series. As a wedding photographer, I find I can get my focus point and shutter there quicker in changing conditions with the 1D series than anything else out there.
Lower on the totem pole, but that is exactly why I am switching from GX8 to 6Dmkii. The Lumix has tons of great features and so many custom buttons... but the camera size would only fit a child’s hands well, unfortunately. And I always feel overwhelmed. Whereas my last EOS film camera was a dream to use.
This is premium content right here. Personally I care more about the informative nature of this channel than the "what I had for breakfast today" vlogging nature of other channels out there. My opinion. Thanks, Jared.
Jared, well done. Great side by side by side by side by brick. Very comprehensive and your commentary hit the important points. Also, Sierra Hotel to Stephen and Dan for the excellent production. For me...I’d grab the 5D IV...dual cards, weather sealed, and relatively affordable for a professional level camera.
I'm using 6D mkII as when I bought it Canon's mirrorless was just a gossip, and to be honest I would buy it again as RP doesn't seem to be as good (but is cheaper so I'm not sure) and R is too expensive. But I need to point that 6D II has built in bluetooth and GPS and you can select focus point on the back of LCD by just moving your thumb around the screen. Also you can use Canon Camera Connect app exactly same way you can use it with 5DmkIV. I don't think this are game changing features but probably worth mentioning. Anyway cool video and thanks for making it.
As an amature nerd that doesn't do video, the R would have been the dream, but at a $1,000 more without a good eye AF, the RP is a no brainier. I just got the RP yesterday with the RF 24 to 105... struggled deciding between the combo or the R at this price, but I don't have a lot of EF glass. But this glass is amazing..super sharp, super fast focus....the RP is a great camera.
Since the Canon 5div and 6dii are part of this video, those are the cameras to look at first. Why? Because they won't be around for very long and the mirrorless cameras will be. Maybe not the exact models but a version of them. If you want/need a dslr get them while you can. Lens mount is a consideration. Think about those features you really want or need. You may not really need a given feature or miss a given feature. Respectfully, not all cameras need video. If your business requires video, OK you do. But there are those of us who shoot only stills. Video capabilities don't just come along for free. Though it may seem so. Having video as part of the feature set, likely effects the mix, ie. you may miss out on something you woud prefer as a result of video being included. Finally, "if you know what you are doing." Your right, Jared.
Really love these comparison videos! One thing I think would be a great addition is a chart at the end showing which cameras won in which fields, as well as the total amount of checkmarks accumulated by each camera. These videos cover so many specs that sometimes it’s hard to keep track of exactly which areas a camera did well in, and there might be specs that are more important to some people than others. Keep up the amazing work!
I just want to point out that I've seen the 6d2 with a battery grip for $1299 several times now. Just gotta wait for the end of the year sales. Makes it a pretty tempting purchase.
I would go for a 5D Mark IV and i actually did! I will miss my vari-angle screen from my old crop sensor one, but to me that would be the only downside compared to the other ones besides the 1DX MK2
@@gtaatmiami On paper the R, in real life I went with the 5D hands down despite lower specs. I cannot look through an electronic viewfinder and I need the ergonomics of a proper camera. I not into menus to get things done in the real world. If I could have both, then I would. Just one minute with the R In the store and I gave it back and took the Mk4
I'm saving for the Canon R with grip and control ring adapter. I've invested in quality EF glass and like the idea I don't need to micro adjust mirrorless body for my lenses. I'm upgrading from 6D II, which is a great body within reason but the AF capabilities of mirrorless and accuracy of focus point positioning vs actual focus point position matching due to EVF is what has sold me, not to mention RF glass options. I found my optical VF with 98% coverage was focusing slightly above the actual displayed focus rectangle in VF, which totally sucks when trying to nail focus with shallow DOF, and contrast detect focus seemed to trump my phase detect focusing with DSLR technology. That's why Canon R seems a worthwhile choice for me, even though I fear that if I buy now, Canon will launch a pro R body that will leave me wishing I'd waited.
for work 1dx2 is the main body and 1dx is a second or backup, EOS R is the secret weapon in silent/quiet situation, but using EOS R silent shutter with extra caution in most indoor situation and it is quite challenging. thank you for your detail video.
Probably won’t even see this but I just wanna thank you for all the work you put into these videos. I have watched endless hours of your content and learned so much. I ended up getting a 60 mark two and putting a 70-200 F4 is ii on it and my outdoor sports shots have become insane. Definitely about to buy your Lightroom package and take them to the next level.
Logan Ochs I know, right? Why even bother letting camera guess. It’s natural for me to do as I compose. I can see obviously for action where you CANNOT anticipate the shot or the movement, then full coverage autofocus would be great. But even then - you probably are already on the right plane of focus unless it’s something close up or passing you.
I do think the “R” is the best (if you can afford) of the line up. It can fit the new glass (which is claimed to be fantastic) and has really good 1080p and focusing (which I believe is the most important), only bummer is no 120fps.
I chose the EOS RP. Since buying the body only I have purchased a UHS II card, the RF 35mm lens. Full frame goodness at a price under the EOS R with a better card as well as a RF lens makes this a wise choice for me and my budget. I am a happy camper, lol!
Jarod, I know you’re a very busy guy. I want to say firstly, I highly enjoy your content, and ability to break things down. I’m a little lost in a choice. I’ve been doing a huge amount of research. I started my career with the canon eos 7d. I started with it with the mentality I would learn everything I could, and push my camera to its complete limits. Small portrait sessions, big, even a couple weddings, and between the camera and really good editing, with my skill set now, I’ve achieved gorgeous images, but I’ve done what I set out to do. Push my camera to its max. A big problem is low light (dynamic range) coming back from shadows etc. it falls apart at like 3500 iso. I know my camera is way out of date and with my thought process, I was thinking about jumping into an rp for a year, and saving next season to make an r5 my main, and rp backup. So I’m thinking rp main 7d back up. Do u have any sort of advice. Yes I’m on a budget atm. I’ve seen so much hate on the rp, but it looks like a huge upgrade from my favorite dinosaur. Interested in ff, and expanding my wedding capabilities. I’m a firm believer it’s the man behind the specs more than the specs alone, but yes, it’s a time for an upgrade. Any help would be appreciated
I love the 6D M2 and the 7D2 as well. The 7D2 is great with a long zoom lens like the Tamron 70-300 for street photography, because you can be a long way from your subject and still get the benefit of the crop factor (eg about 420mm on the above lens). Its 65pt auto focus will still allow a lot of coverage of the frame and allow for rule-of-thirds style portraits. On the other hand, the 6D2 maybe will need a little cropping with street photography and you have to be a little closer to your subject. In very busy places, with a 24-105 lens such as the Sigma, you need to be a little nearer your subject, but even if you have to allow for the 45 pt auto-focus in editing and crop a wee bit, the resolution is still about 25 megapixels. More than the 7D2. The 6D2 is fabulous though, for portraits and for subjects such as architecture and landscapes, that can't answer back and ask, "Why are you taking my photograph?" If you have time to frame your subject, the 6D2 will always give the best results. My answer to those who point to either camera's slightly out of date video capabilities is, can you really tell the difference between 1080p and 4k? Especially when viewed on an iPad or even a 27" i-Mac? I would guess that in blind testing, the answer would be no in either scenario. The 6D2 and 7D2 have video capabilities that will thrill anyone moving from their mobile phone - even if that has 4K. As Jared points out, it's the glass in front of the camera, and even the kit lenses associated with an APS-C (18-55mm), will give much better results than a tiny piece of plastic on a mobile that has been stuffed in a handbag or pocket, and has never been cleaned.
MarkPMus very nice summary! I am switching to 6Dmkii from Lumix GX8. Love the features on GX8 but too many options/menus and I underestimated how small it is and not enjoyable to try to hang onto. Thinking about keeping it for 4K video but I don’t know. Awesome looking camera just wish it was 1.2x bigger and with aps-c sensor!
There is no single all-purpose body, each of these have strengths and a common audience of buyers. Mechanical vs mirrorless doesn't make the picture any better. Most cannot buy multiple bodies to shoot optimally for sports with a 1dx2, landscape/portraits with 5d4 or R, timelapse with R. Instead most will hope for the best buying what they can afford like the 6d2 or RP and do just fine.
Well said and that’s why I’m invested in L glass with the 5D4 and Fuji XT3 and XH1 with all their glass. All my gear has a function and recently made the cover of a major mag with the Canon. However choice and competition is what keeps us togs going. God Bless.
I'd say the RP or the R are the best ones for me. I couldn't care less for video, I enjoy macro, architecture and landscape (in that order), so it would be hard for anybody to distinguish between a still and a video. And I really like the smaller size. Coming from that, the RP doesn't offer too much additional value to justify the price, except for the higher resolution. However, this is a big advantage for macros. Hmm...
@@gtaatmiami Well, it still depends on how much time I can spend with my camera. From my experience, not very much. The R is, of course, the better camera.
You should’ve included the 5dsr in the mix also, you can still buy it new. I shoot with the 5dsr and 1DX2 and unless I know I need the fps or higher iso capability I’ll grab the 5dsr over the 1DX2 all the time.
I want eos rp, i don't care what people say but rp can make my job done as wedding photography. Currently owning 6D mk i, and none of my clients complain my photo's.
20:25 that's the number one thing I needed to hear about Canon, thank you. Video is way more important to me and a cropped image is like shooting with an APS-C, right? For a video person, that's just a bummer. I'm gonna keep searching for a badass full frame to buy down the line
@@69_MK I found a company in my town that was storing them and got the last one. It is from 2016 but still brand new and mint box. Just shot my first 500 images. so still 250k to go. :D
I have the machinegun 7dII for 4 years now and I love it every day more and more. Just bought a use 5dIII with 130,000 shots and don't know why I should buy this crazy new stuff or switch over to Sony. I prefer to spend my money on best glas.
Jared, have you done a video on high ISO and the grain of a picture. I find that the higher the ISO the more grain you get. Is there a way to reduce grain at high ISO?
@bracikmen I have the 5DS and EOS R. Used to have the 5D mk iii. If you have time, I'd suggest waiting to see what the new EOS R pro version becomes. I only use the 5DS if I need a huge file, otherwise, I most often prefer the EOS R now, even for landscapes.
I have an eos r and if you set to shoot only in raw, not raw + jpg, it will automatically transfer a copy to your iPhone in raw format, and if you have a network connection you are safe because your backup is in cloud. So, in my opinion, this is the best backup.
budget and muscles for it lol. Still a great camera, but terrible to take on vacation. I saw a guy while I was in Japan with the 1dxii and 70-200 f2.8. Man he was suffering hiking around that temple.
I love my EOS R! But my 6D2 is great as a second camera. You forgot to mention the M50. That is an amazing and cheap compact camera and with a speed booster, it's practically a full frame.
Dear Jared, with all of these mirrorless cameras what will be the outcome of the 7D MK2? It’s solid, quick, rugged, weather sealed and faithful in rash weather. Cheers from The North.
graham68ktm Yeah that’s what I thought. It’s used for focus and metering. It takes that work off of the main processor so to me that should be considered a dual processor system. Maybe canon decided not to market it that way so the 1DX sounds like a bigger upgrade.
Cool comparison; but it leaves an empty spot and me wondering... why did you omit a brick for the 5Ds/5DsR? Although it's the oldest beast of those, it's still a current camera along with the other ones you included. Perhaps more of a niche camera, but should win hands down for Canon shooters who shoot architectures, landscapes and studio work. Personally, I'm not even tempted to change it to any of these cameras - only Canon's rumored high-res mirrorless camera will likely change it.
@@froknowsphoto, well thanks for your quick answer. To me the camera blows the other ones out of the water for a lot of my shooting. It only has competition outside Canon's lineup from cameras like Nikon's D850/Z7, Sony A7R3, or Fujifilm GFX. How often do you update your camera (I mean if you mean the firmware)? A replacement (not just a firmware update) for the 5Ds-line shall arrive in the end of this year or during the next, so if you mean that kind of update, it will be updated almost certainly. It is true that it doesn't have the noise performance of its competitors, but you can still use ETTR and for static scenes even mean stacking and exposure blending to achieve results that can compete with all of its competition + MF cameras out there. Something I use quite often and am very pleased by the results. Based on this, I don't call the camera dead, but still the best one Canon has to offer me. :)
@@froknowsphoto don’t know if it’s dead at $1499 (big Manhattan store). At that price it performed CPR and I brought one home. Alive from the dslr trash heap. My L glass will be happy though.
@@phynx2006 in 2010 I bought the 5DMII, it has served me well, and it is still taking awesome shoots in perfect lightning situations. End of January 2019 I bought the R :-) what an upgrade. Looking forward to going into action..... ;-)
Glad you mentioned the fact the vary angle screens don’t stick out straight....really made that feature bittersweet for me on 6dii. Moved to 5dsr and never looked back. Also the AF and arrangement of AF points on 6d vs 5d/7d series... It’s too bad, there’s a lot I liked about my 6di/ii but canon is intentionally crippling the series to distinguish between it and 5d/7d
I do believe that canon is committed to the “R” lineup, and the new 1DX ii will be a full on mirrorless maybe with IBIS, the “R” lens will be rolling off the production line offering better optics. Canon will want to support these lens with a range of high end bodies for the high end “R” lenses. If we get crippled video, we will have to see, but that is typically Canon all over.
None of them. Waiting for a better R camera (30-40MP). Canon are buying time by releasing EOS R, RP to ensure their next R camera is good enough for 5D3/4 users to upgrade to.
That's waht I'm hoping for. I'm no pro, but i was ready to plunge into the 5dmk4, until I saw the R. Considering that it's got 3 year old specs, I figure they should be coming out with a better mirrorless in the not too distant future.
Wow, the prices have come down a LOT in the last 10 months! I just bought a 5d mk iv for $1600 in like new condition. The RP can be bought new for $900 now if you find a good deal.
Just bought the 6dii the rp is to slow for a mirrorless the 5div I was thinking about it but I bought a another L lens. first FF still have my 77d n t6s .. 6dii good starter
I would pick the EOS R, 'cause it's like the best option ignoring the battery life and the slow speed shooting... Edit: BUT the Sony A7III is better, ignoring the fact that can't use Canon lenses without an adapter, so it slows the focussing process.
I do shoots with a canon t6+17-50mm sigma lens. For video I use a Lumix g85, gear is just tools. Some are better than others, but all can get the job done if you know what are you doing.
Which one do you think would be the best for music/gig photography? Bearing in mind that I don't use continuous shooting. Most of my work is in low light conditions.
I only shoot stills so the video capabilities are not important at all to me, I shoot architecture and have a TS-E 17mm as my main lens for internals and externals. I now use a 6D mk2 as (previously had 1Ds in 2003 to 2006 then 5Dmk1 from 2006 to 2018! Still works never failed me, would love to see the shutter count.) I need a second body for location shoots so I don't need to swap lenses, after all the reviews I have just purchased the EOS R as offers everything I currently have but up a level. (The articulated screen is a must for me now, as shooting interiors in tight spaces means I can push the camera right into the corner and still see the screen as I can manipulate it back towards me! - The focus peaking will be great as the hardest thing with the TS-E is manual focusing on such a wide shot. The build in level also means I can shoot handheld for externals and get everything plumb & true. Speeds up my workflow no end for daytime exteriors! I was more than happy with my 6Dmk 2 but for minimal extra the EOS R will become my main body (I use the vertical battery grip with both) I also own 70-200mm F/4 L IS, 24-105mm F/4 L IS MK1, 17-40mm F/4 L, 28-300mm F/3.5 - 5.6 L & a MKIII 2x extender as well as the TS-E 17mm F/4 L as detailed above.
At this point, the best all-around camera is the R. I had them all, except the RP, and I'm loving the R. It just needs a few tweaks and cut off some rough edges to be perfect in real life.
It's ok for what it is.. IMO. Mirrorless baby steps. - The 6D Mark II is way cheaper (BH Photo- $1500) , and will fit EF mount lenses. The autofocus points all in the center issue is irrelevant when shooting with a f/1.x lens, because it achieves focus instantly.
FeedScrn I agree with you at 100%. In fact, I bought a new 6d2 for my wife, on eBay some weeks ago. It had a great price and she's loving it and me as well. I miss the simplicity and great IQ from my first FF, the 6d. But since I'm a tech freak I couldn't help it without having the R.
There is still a market for Canon 30-year-old FD lenses, EF lenses will be around for decades. It will take Canon another 10+ years to build an RF family equivalent to the EF family if they ever do.
@@KaReEdCa Let's take the RF 15-35mm F2.8 IS USM as an example. Price..probably 2000-2599 euro later this year. The EF 16-35mm F2.8 costs 1899 euro at the moment. Picking up EF bargains is gonna be very interesting for us all. Just got a Tamron 85mm F1.8 for 347 euro new on sale and saw a Tamron 45mm F1.8 for the same price. Having options with the adapters is fantastic!
@@Ravencroft81 exactly!!! I just got the 24 to 105 RF and it's super sharp....by all accounts the sharpest 24 to 105 ever on a Canon. And the ring is super sweet....looking forward to getting the adapter with ring soon...possibilities of this new system even to use efs lenses is awesome. I'm using my tokina 11-16 2.8 @16mm with no vignetting at all. Great lens and no need to get another lens.
Being the happy owner of a 6D (classic) i just bought an EF 24-70 f/2.8 mk2 lens. I know that my next camera +5 years from now will either be an 5Dmk IV or a upcomming mkV, or... a 5D alike R-series. So for now i am in the DSLR World and probably stay there for one more camera.
Hey Jared, great video. I was wondering, since there at least 4 lenses for R mount already released, could you do video compering old canon system vs new system. Not just a lens or camera but complete system. And maybe also adding Sony and some other ones that have similar range glass. Thank you!
@@RobertBratuOfficial Yes, 4k is 25P in PAL. Interestingly, movie rec. size is an option on page 9 of the camera menu when you're in a stills mode, and from there 4k is not even displayed as an option. I had to get the manual to figure out you have to set the mode dial to movie mode, which changes the movie rec. size option to page 1 of the camera menu, in order to even unlock 4k as an option. Setting the mode dial back to a stills mode drops the max resolution video you can record by pressing record menu back to FHD.
So many options, but what one is right for you?
So the video quality settings, there are not many options. Well I guess 360 will do for now.
Dude, you uploaded the video with 360p resolution,
Do you think they should make a new updated 1dx
why compare video quality in cameras, if youtube let you publish only 360p)))
@@artembaidala It's processing my friend
Hi, people who watch videos on youtube. If a video is only in 360p, it means youtube is still processing it. We export in 4k, we're not going to put out videos with terrible quality. Give it a min to process.
or two...;-)
or 30.....Come on UA-cam!!! It's like you are owned by Facebook or something....
What!?! You don't transcode to VHS then capture it back with a cheap importer then upload it!?!??? Think of the hipsters!!
I can't afford to be watching this. I'll check back in 6 years 😱
In 6 years Canon might be in current (2019s) tech ;)...
Just 5 more to go
4 to go
Lol
3 years to go
36:05 Amen. I own the 6D Mark II. It's limited, sure, but everything you said after, especially Glass Glass Glass, and knowing what you're doing, compensates for it. It's does the job.
We currently shoot weddings with a 5d4, a7r3, and 1dxmk2. The best tracking, focus, and reliable images are still the from the 1dxmk2. Still get more keepers from the 5d4 with the 24-70ii vs the a7r3 with the GM 24-70, but most likely due to the ability to fine tune focus points on the fly faster in the DSLRs. Favorite camera to use for stills is definitely the Sony. I can't wait for the next evolution in mirrorless, but for now I need the the ability to adapt to changing conditions of weddings and nothing does it better for me than the 1dxmk2. I have used the a9 and I still have trouble switching settings at the speed of the cannon. Missing a shot can be everything, that's where the 1d and d5 prove their worth
You can't beat the speed of the 1D X series - and overall ergonomics of the 1D series. As a wedding photographer, I find I can get my focus point and shutter there quicker in changing conditions with the 1D series than anything else out there.
As a side note: I also prefer the colors from Canon with skin tones especially when compared to Sony.
Lower on the totem pole, but that is exactly why I am switching from GX8 to 6Dmkii. The Lumix has tons of great features and so many custom buttons... but the camera size would only fit a child’s hands well, unfortunately. And I always feel overwhelmed. Whereas my last EOS film camera was a dream to use.
This is premium content right here. Personally I care more about the informative nature of this channel than the "what I had for breakfast today" vlogging nature of other channels out there. My opinion. Thanks, Jared.
Jared, well done. Great side by side by side by side by brick. Very comprehensive and your commentary hit the important points. Also, Sierra Hotel to Stephen and Dan for the excellent production. For me...I’d grab the 5D IV...dual cards, weather sealed, and relatively affordable for a professional level camera.
I'm using 6D mkII as when I bought it Canon's mirrorless was just a gossip, and to be honest I would buy it again as RP doesn't seem to be as good (but is cheaper so I'm not sure) and R is too expensive. But I need to point that 6D II has built in bluetooth and GPS and you can select focus point on the back of LCD by just moving your thumb around the screen. Also you can use Canon Camera Connect app exactly same way you can use it with 5DmkIV. I don't think this are game changing features but probably worth mentioning. Anyway cool video and thanks for making it.
As an amature nerd that doesn't do video, the R would have been the dream, but at a $1,000 more without a good eye AF, the RP is a no brainier. I just got the RP yesterday with the RF 24 to 105... struggled deciding between the combo or the R at this price, but I don't have a lot of EF glass. But this glass is amazing..super sharp, super fast focus....the RP is a great camera.
I don't find good videos on youtube very often. This is one of those that gives a lot of info and very well done. Great job.
Since the Canon 5div and 6dii are part of this video, those are the cameras to look at first. Why? Because they won't be around for very long and the mirrorless cameras will be. Maybe not the exact models but a version of them. If you want/need a dslr get them while you can. Lens mount is a consideration. Think about those features you really want or need. You may not really need a given feature or miss a given feature.
Respectfully, not all cameras need video. If your business requires video, OK you do. But there are those of us who shoot only stills. Video capabilities don't just come along for free. Though it may seem so. Having video as part of the feature set, likely effects the mix, ie. you may miss out on something you woud prefer as a result of video being included.
Finally, "if you know what you are doing." Your right, Jared.
Really love these comparison videos! One thing I think would be a great addition is a chart at the end showing which cameras won in which fields, as well as the total amount of checkmarks accumulated by each camera. These videos cover so many specs that sometimes it’s hard to keep track of exactly which areas a camera did well in, and there might be specs that are more important to some people than others. Keep up the amazing work!
Get the one that inspires you to use it more. The EOS R has been a nice change from years of using the 5Ds and 6Ds and I find myself using it more.
I just want to point out that I've seen the 6d2 with a battery grip for $1299 several times now. Just gotta wait for the end of the year sales. Makes it a pretty tempting purchase.
Just before thanksgiving, there was a deal of 6d2 with battery back plus a $350 printer all for $900. Great price!
@@acanthaster11 wow... I would have jumped on that right away. But it's hard to move from my 80d. It just works.
I would go for a 5D Mark IV and i actually did! I will miss my vari-angle screen from my old crop sensor one, but to me that would be the only downside compared to the other ones besides the 1DX MK2
@@gtaatmiami On paper the R, in real life I went with the 5D hands down despite lower specs. I cannot look through an electronic viewfinder and I need the ergonomics of a proper camera. I not into menus to get things done in the real world. If I could have both, then I would. Just one minute with the R In the store and I gave it back and took the Mk4
@@africanhistory Just sold off my 5D4. Thinking if I should go for the R or 1DX II or maybe just get a second a7riii for myself. :/ Contemplating...
LOL “ I’m not used to big things in my hands”
EOS R all the way! Thanks for making all these videos. They really help.
Same for me!
Myles, Im looking at moving up from the Canon 5dmkii, do you rate the EOS R
"Before the Olympics in 2020". We all know how that went down.
Please explain, thanks!
@@jamesmcneil4311
The olympics were cancelled in 2020 due to the Covid-19 virus.
I'm saving for the Canon R with grip and control ring adapter. I've invested in quality EF glass and like the idea I don't need to micro adjust mirrorless body for my lenses. I'm upgrading from 6D II, which is a great body within reason but the AF capabilities of mirrorless and accuracy of focus point positioning vs actual focus point position matching due to EVF is what has sold me, not to mention RF glass options. I found my optical VF with 98% coverage was focusing slightly above the actual displayed focus rectangle in VF, which totally sucks when trying to nail focus with shallow DOF, and contrast detect focus seemed to trump my phase detect focusing with DSLR technology. That's why Canon R seems a worthwhile choice for me, even though I fear that if I buy now, Canon will launch a pro R body that will leave me wishing I'd waited.
for work 1dx2 is the main body and 1dx is a second or backup, EOS R is the secret weapon in silent/quiet situation, but using EOS R silent shutter with extra caution in most indoor situation and it is quite challenging. thank you for your detail video.
26:10 6D Mark II also has GPS
Probably won’t even see this but I just wanna thank you for all the work you put into these videos. I have watched endless hours of your content and learned so much. I ended up getting a 60 mark two and putting a 70-200 F4 is ii on it and my outdoor sports shots have become insane. Definitely about to buy your Lightroom package and take them to the next level.
I'm seriously considering the EOS R
I use DSLRs, and I don't really care about edge to edge because I only ever use my center point, and the 'focus and recompose' technique
Logan Ochs I know, right? Why even bother letting camera guess. It’s natural for me to do as I compose. I can see obviously for action where you CANNOT anticipate the shot or the movement, then full coverage autofocus would be great. But even then - you probably are already on the right plane of focus unless it’s something close up or passing you.
I do think the “R” is the best (if you can afford) of the line up. It can fit the new glass (which is claimed to be fantastic) and has really good 1080p and focusing (which I believe is the most important), only bummer is no 120fps.
every time the brick came up i was dying. absolute gold
Used my EOS R for a paid shoot yesterday and the single memory card DID NOT FAIL . . . but the glass is amazing
I chose the EOS RP. Since buying the body only I have purchased a UHS II card, the RF 35mm lens. Full frame goodness at a price under the EOS R with a better card as well as a RF lens makes this a wise choice for me and my budget. I am a happy camper, lol!
Jarod, I know you’re a very busy guy. I want to say firstly, I highly enjoy your content, and ability to break things down. I’m a little lost in a choice. I’ve been doing a huge amount of research. I started my career with the canon eos 7d. I started with it with the mentality I would learn everything I could, and push my camera to its complete limits. Small portrait sessions, big, even a couple weddings, and between the camera and really good editing, with my skill set now, I’ve achieved gorgeous images, but I’ve done what I set out to do. Push my camera to its max. A big problem is low light (dynamic range) coming back from shadows etc. it falls apart at like 3500 iso. I know my camera is way out of date and with my thought process, I was thinking about jumping into an rp for a year, and saving next season to make an r5 my main, and rp backup. So I’m thinking rp main 7d back up. Do u have any sort of advice. Yes I’m on a budget atm. I’ve seen so much hate on the rp, but it looks like a huge upgrade from my favorite dinosaur. Interested in ff, and expanding my wedding capabilities. I’m a firm believer it’s the man behind the specs more than the specs alone, but yes, it’s a time for an upgrade. Any help would be appreciated
I still use a 5D MK3 and a 5D MK4 for event photography . I am looking forward to the next 5D MK5 , hopefully sooner.
Canon 1DX Mark II. It still rules. Sport/Action/Wildlife.
DUDE! Not the brick! Hilarious!
I love the 6D M2 and the 7D2 as well. The 7D2 is great with a long zoom lens like the Tamron 70-300 for street photography, because you can be a long way from your subject and still get the benefit of the crop factor (eg about 420mm on the above lens). Its 65pt auto focus will still allow a lot of coverage of the frame and allow for rule-of-thirds style portraits. On the other hand, the 6D2 maybe will need a little cropping with street photography and you have to be a little closer to your subject. In very busy places, with a 24-105 lens such as the Sigma, you need to be a little nearer your subject, but even if you have to allow for the 45 pt auto-focus in editing and crop a wee bit, the resolution is still about 25 megapixels. More than the 7D2. The 6D2 is fabulous though, for portraits and for subjects such as architecture and landscapes, that can't answer back and ask, "Why are you taking my photograph?" If you have time to frame your subject, the 6D2 will always give the best results. My answer to those who point to either camera's slightly out of date video capabilities is, can you really tell the difference between 1080p and 4k? Especially when viewed on an iPad or even a 27" i-Mac? I would guess that in blind testing, the answer would be no in either scenario. The 6D2 and 7D2 have video capabilities that will thrill anyone moving from their mobile phone - even if that has 4K. As Jared points out, it's the glass in front of the camera, and even the kit lenses associated with an APS-C (18-55mm), will give much better results than a tiny piece of plastic on a mobile that has been stuffed in a handbag or pocket, and has never been cleaned.
MarkPMus very nice summary! I am switching to 6Dmkii from Lumix GX8. Love the features on GX8 but too many options/menus and I underestimated how small it is and not enjoyable to try to hang onto. Thinking about keeping it for 4K video but I don’t know. Awesome looking camera just wish it was 1.2x bigger and with aps-c sensor!
You forgot about the 5Ds & 5Dsr! But they need an update!.
He should've brought 2 more bricks
There is no single all-purpose body, each of these have strengths and a common audience of buyers. Mechanical vs mirrorless doesn't make the picture any better. Most cannot buy multiple bodies to shoot optimally for sports with a 1dx2, landscape/portraits with 5d4 or R, timelapse with R. Instead most will hope for the best buying what they can afford like the 6d2 or RP and do just fine.
Well said and that’s why I’m invested in L glass with the 5D4 and Fuji XT3 and XH1 with all their glass. All my gear has a function and recently made the cover of a major mag with the Canon. However choice and competition is what keeps us togs going. God Bless.
“And this brick will definitely kick your ass” IM DEAD 💀 amazing vid
Summary ?!
1:02 If there ever was a "Best Reviews Moments of the Year" this should be a strong candidate. Epic.
I love my 5d mark iv!
20:15 CAnon 5D4 has GPS too. :)
Great review Jared
I'd say the RP or the R are the best ones for me. I couldn't care less for video, I enjoy macro, architecture and landscape (in that order), so it would be hard for anybody to distinguish between a still and a video. And I really like the smaller size.
Coming from that, the RP doesn't offer too much additional value to justify the price, except for the higher resolution. However, this is a big advantage for macros. Hmm...
@@gtaatmiami Well, it still depends on how much time I can spend with my camera. From my experience, not very much. The R is, of course, the better camera.
26:28 the RP and R are the same, so why not marks for both?
I want that brick desperately cause it takes nice photo , nice video and even comes handy on hand-to-hand combat. 😁😁😎😎
You should’ve included the 5dsr in the mix also, you can still buy it new. I shoot with the 5dsr and 1DX2 and unless I know I need the fps or higher iso capability I’ll grab the 5dsr over the 1DX2 all the time.
I have a 1dxii and a 5dmkiv and I wish I would have got the 5dsr instead of the 5dmkiv as my second body. I feel that would be a better pairing
I want eos rp, i don't care what people say but rp can make my job done as wedding photography. Currently owning 6D mk i, and none of my clients complain my photo's.
Jared, can you do the same video with a aps-c lineup? 7d, 80d and m50?
Don't even bother with them.
@@iyzyz Some people don't want to spend several thousand dollars to enjoy a hobby.
Pro Tip: Download all spec sheets and compare them.
@@iyzyz shut up sony fanboi
@@cammac66 fuck sony
20:25 that's the number one thing I needed to hear about Canon, thank you. Video is way more important to me and a cropped image is like shooting with an APS-C, right? For a video person, that's just a bummer. I'm gonna keep searching for a badass full frame to buy down the line
I just got a 5diii with the 24-70 f2.8 in the 10year anniversary kit for 1400€
Great camera.. Mine has about 200,000 shots on it and I see no reason to 'upgrade' .. great auto focus, stunning images
i thought they stopped selling the anniversary kit a while back ?
@@69_MK I found a company in my town that was storing them and got the last one. It is from 2016 but still brand new and mint box. Just shot my first 500 images. so still 250k to go. :D
I have the machinegun 7dII for 4 years now and I love it every day more and more. Just bought a use 5dIII with 130,000 shots and don't know why I should buy this crazy new stuff or switch over to Sony. I prefer to spend my money on best glas.
Jared, have you done a video on high ISO and the grain of a picture. I find that the higher the ISO the more grain you get. Is there a way to reduce grain at high ISO?
Just got my canon mark lV.. looking at the 5dsr next
@bracikmen I have the 5DS and EOS R. Used to have the 5D mk iii. If you have time, I'd suggest waiting to see what the new EOS R pro version becomes. I only use the 5DS if I need a huge file, otherwise, I most often prefer the EOS R now, even for landscapes.
I have an eos r and if you set to shoot only in raw, not raw + jpg, it will automatically transfer a copy to your iPhone in raw format, and if you have a network connection you are safe because your backup is in cloud. So, in my opinion, this is the best backup.
If i have the budget ill go 1dx mark 2 anytime of the day
budget and muscles for it lol. Still a great camera, but terrible to take on vacation. I saw a guy while I was in Japan with the 1dxii and 70-200 f2.8. Man he was suffering hiking around that temple.
@@seacow2001 I use my 5diii and 70-200 2.8 is for weight training.
Kun Huo shot Westminster with my 5D4 and 70-200. Damn I was hurt after 7 hours. But made the cover of a magazine. Worth the pain.
@@rumporridge1 I think you are giving too much credit to the camera :P
@@seacow2001 agreed. too heavy for me.
Broh..the brick is legend, it can give you a house. seriously :)
This was a great side by side! I am looking at the used Mark IV versus 1DX II and you made it a much easier decision!
I love my EOS R! But my 6D2 is great as a second camera. You forgot to mention the M50. That is an amazing and cheap compact camera and with a speed booster, it's practically a full frame.
onlysublime /what the best way to add gps on EOS R ? canon gps external are very big
Hey Jared, why don't you make a video about the Fv mode on the Canons. Flexible mode lets you shoot manual style faster.
I just bought an EOR r to replace my 5D mkiii but im keeping my 5D as an backup.
Dear Jared, with all of these mirrorless cameras what will be the outcome of the 7D MK2? It’s solid, quick, rugged, weather sealed and faithful in rash weather.
Cheers from The North.
I wonder how Sony's Eye autofocus compares now with the R & RP with 1.4 firmware update.
Which Sony A6400 vs Fujifilm XT30 is better for photographers?
yeah because every photographer has the same exact needs
Okay thanks for the explanation
Check out Undone's unbiased comparison, he chooses Sony, ua-cam.com/video/5Uw0rHZhmW8/v-deo.html
Thank you!!! EOS R PURCHASED LAST NIGHT!!
Can you do a video on Canon RP vs Nikon Z6 vs Sony a7iii ?
You can but it has some frustrating limitations...no 24fps at 1080, and no DPAF in 4k.
Which one is for action and birding?
Doesn’t the 5D Mark IV have dual processors? I believe it has a DIGIC 6+ and a DIGIC 6.
Chris S just one. The Digic 6+
I think the other one is for focusing !
graham68ktm Yeah that’s what I thought. It’s used for focus and metering. It takes that work off of the main processor so to me that should be considered a dual processor system. Maybe canon decided not to market it that way so the 1DX sounds like a bigger upgrade.
It’s like comparing every Volvo in their lineup. They all serve a purpose for someone.
which has the best dynamic range?
Which ever you decide to use to get the shot. The r has better than the 1dx 2 but does it even matter?
can we get an updated video once the r5 and r6 are shipped??
Didn't Luke turn off the targeting system and use the Force to destroy the Death Star?
YES
Great review from the Fro. You're selling me on the EOS R for sure. Now to get the funds...
Cool comparison; but it leaves an empty spot and me wondering... why did you omit a brick for the 5Ds/5DsR? Although it's the oldest beast of those, it's still a current camera along with the other ones you included. Perhaps more of a niche camera, but should win hands down for Canon shooters who shoot architectures, landscapes and studio work.
Personally, I'm not even tempted to change it to any of these cameras - only Canon's rumored high-res mirrorless camera will likely change it.
It’s a dead camera and not being updated.
@@froknowsphoto, well thanks for your quick answer. To me the camera blows the other ones out of the water for a lot of my shooting. It only has competition outside Canon's lineup from cameras like Nikon's D850/Z7, Sony A7R3, or Fujifilm GFX.
How often do you update your camera (I mean if you mean the firmware)? A replacement (not just a firmware update) for the 5Ds-line shall arrive in the end of this year or during the next, so if you mean that kind of update, it will be updated almost certainly.
It is true that it doesn't have the noise performance of its competitors, but you can still use ETTR and for static scenes even mean stacking and exposure blending to achieve results that can compete with all of its competition + MF cameras out there. Something I use quite often and am very pleased by the results. Based on this, I don't call the camera dead, but still the best one Canon has to offer me. :)
@@froknowsphoto don’t know if it’s dead at $1499 (big Manhattan store). At that price it performed CPR and I brought one home. Alive from the
dslr trash heap. My L glass will be happy though.
Awaiting an EOS R Mk II with the bump in FPS, then I'm in.
That and IBIS and they can get all my money
Why is the Canon 5Ds (R) not included?
I'm still shooting with the 5D mark III :(
Hey the 5D Mark III is a great camera, when used properly it's as good as anything on the market, in my opinion
@@phynx2006 in 2010 I bought the 5DMII, it has served me well, and it is still taking awesome shoots in perfect lightning situations. End of January 2019 I bought the R :-) what an upgrade. Looking forward to going into action..... ;-)
@@phynx2006 that's partly the reason i havent upgraded, im going to use this camera until I can't anymore =p
which one is better for modeling
Thanks for giving me an intelligent description of each camera now I can choose the one that I want thank you!
6d Mark II
Glad you mentioned the fact the vary angle screens don’t stick out straight....really made that feature bittersweet for me on 6dii. Moved to 5dsr and never looked back. Also the AF and arrangement of AF points on 6d vs 5d/7d series... It’s too bad, there’s a lot I liked about my 6di/ii but canon is intentionally crippling the series to distinguish between it and 5d/7d
I do believe that canon is committed to the “R” lineup, and the new 1DX ii will be a full on mirrorless maybe with IBIS, the “R” lens will be rolling off the production line offering better optics. Canon will want to support these lens with a range of high end bodies for the high end “R” lenses. If we get crippled video, we will have to see, but that is typically Canon all over.
The 5D Mark IV also has built-in GPS.
True, he forgot about that. Not that I need GPS on a camera, but the 5DIV does have it.
None of them. Waiting for a better R camera (30-40MP). Canon are buying time by releasing EOS R, RP to ensure their next R camera is good enough for 5D3/4 users to upgrade to.
That's waht I'm hoping for. I'm no pro, but i was ready to plunge into the 5dmk4, until I saw the R. Considering that it's got 3 year old specs, I figure they should be coming out with a better mirrorless in the not too distant future.
Yes this is my exact dilemma
@@gtaatmiami sameeee
5 years later and nothing has changed. Unless you want to spend $3000.
The price of 5d mk IV is much lower now, in Europe you get it at 1700-1900 euros. Fantastic camera. We will see how R5 will be.
I think R5 will be the clear winner
Wow, the prices have come down a LOT in the last 10 months! I just bought a 5d mk iv for $1600 in like new condition. The RP can be bought new for $900 now if you find a good deal.
Just got a 5DSR for $1499. Yup these new prices are ridiculous.
Finally I choose the 6DII, because the 4k it doesn't important that I should have
do this for the rebel line
In November 2018 I picked up the 6Dii refurb for $1,279. Not a bad deal at the time. First FF camera.
Just bought the 6dii the rp is to slow for a mirrorless the 5div I was thinking about it but I bought a another L lens. first FF still have my 77d n t6s .. 6dii good starter
I would pick the EOS R, 'cause it's like the best option ignoring the battery life and the slow speed shooting...
Edit:
BUT the Sony A7III is better, ignoring the fact that can't use Canon lenses without an adapter, so it slows the focussing process.
Sony? Good joke.
Actually the 800D/T7i is good enough for 80% of the users tbh.
I do shoots with a canon t6+17-50mm sigma lens. For video I use a Lumix g85, gear is just tools. Some are better than others, but all can get the job done if you know what are you doing.
I have a 200d and its great, I'm thinking about upgrading it to a 77d though and then buying a full frame as well
Which one do you think would be the best for music/gig photography? Bearing in mind that I don't use continuous shooting. Most of my work is in low light conditions.
Best 360p in 2019! Mine 200 Mbps connection is struggling
Lmao what?
I only shoot stills so the video capabilities are not important at all to me, I shoot architecture and have a TS-E 17mm as my main lens for internals and externals. I now use a 6D mk2 as (previously had 1Ds in 2003 to 2006 then 5Dmk1 from 2006 to 2018! Still works never failed me, would love to see the shutter count.) I need a second body for location shoots so I don't need to swap lenses, after all the reviews I have just purchased the EOS R as offers everything I currently have but up a level. (The articulated screen is a must for me now, as shooting interiors in tight spaces means I can push the camera right into the corner and still see the screen as I can manipulate it back towards me! - The focus peaking will be great as the hardest thing with the TS-E is manual focusing on such a wide shot. The build in level also means I can shoot handheld for externals and get everything plumb & true. Speeds up my workflow no end for daytime exteriors! I was more than happy with my 6Dmk 2 but for minimal extra the EOS R will become my main body (I use the vertical battery grip with both) I also own 70-200mm F/4 L IS, 24-105mm F/4 L IS MK1, 17-40mm F/4 L, 28-300mm F/3.5 - 5.6 L & a MKIII 2x extender as well as the TS-E 17mm F/4 L as detailed above.
I have the 5d4 & 7d2, holding out for Canon full frame mirrorless with IBS, one can hope can't they? :)
At this point, the best all-around camera is the R. I had them all, except the RP, and I'm loving the R. It just needs a few tweaks and cut off some rough edges to be perfect in real life.
It's ok for what it is.. IMO. Mirrorless baby steps.
- The 6D Mark II is way cheaper (BH Photo- $1500) , and will fit EF mount lenses. The autofocus points all in the center issue is irrelevant when shooting with a f/1.x lens, because it achieves focus instantly.
FeedScrn I agree with you at 100%. In fact, I bought a new 6d2 for my wife, on eBay some weeks ago. It had a great price and she's loving it and me as well. I miss the simplicity and great IQ from my first FF, the 6d. But since I'm a tech freak I couldn't help it without having the R.
The RF lens ecosystem should be your deciding factor. Futureproof!
Yes!!! This and the # of AF points drew me over to RP over the 6Dmkii
There is still a market for Canon 30-year-old FD lenses, EF lenses will be around for decades. It will take Canon another 10+ years to build an RF family equivalent to the EF family if they ever do.
@@adamx12m yes ...but with the RF system...you have the best of all world's...
@@KaReEdCa Let's take the RF 15-35mm F2.8 IS USM as an example. Price..probably 2000-2599 euro later this year. The EF 16-35mm F2.8 costs 1899 euro at the moment. Picking up EF bargains is gonna be very interesting for us all. Just got a Tamron 85mm F1.8 for 347 euro new on sale and saw a Tamron 45mm F1.8 for the same price. Having options with the adapters is fantastic!
@@Ravencroft81 exactly!!! I just got the 24 to 105 RF and it's super sharp....by all accounts the sharpest 24 to 105 ever on a Canon. And the ring is super sweet....looking forward to getting the adapter with ring soon...possibilities of this new system even to use efs lenses is awesome. I'm using my tokina 11-16 2.8 @16mm with no vignetting at all. Great lens and no need to get another lens.
Being the happy owner of a 6D (classic) i just bought an EF 24-70 f/2.8 mk2 lens. I know that my next camera +5 years from now will either be an 5Dmk IV or a upcomming mkV, or... a 5D alike R-series. So for now i am in the DSLR World and probably stay there for one more camera.
Hey Jared, great video. I was wondering, since there at least 4 lenses for R mount already released, could you do video compering old canon system vs new system. Not just a lens or camera but complete system. And maybe also adding Sony and some other ones that have similar range glass. Thank you!
Does the EOS RP also shoot 1080 50p in PAL?
Yes, 25 and 50p HD/FHD in PAL
How about the 4k in PAL, is it 25p?@@Kirivon
@@RobertBratuOfficial Yes, 4k is 25P in PAL. Interestingly, movie rec. size is an option on page 9 of the camera menu when you're in a stills mode, and from there 4k is not even displayed as an option.
I had to get the manual to figure out you have to set the mode dial to movie mode, which changes the movie rec. size option to page 1 of the camera menu, in order to even unlock 4k as an option. Setting the mode dial back to a stills mode drops the max resolution video you can record by pressing record menu back to FHD.
Kirivon Thank you!
Now that they've released the 1DXMkIII are you going to redo this comparison? Or wait until more R styled cameras come out?
I was just gifted a 6D Mark II so I have no complaints about it lol. Now i just need to invest in some glass as this is my first Canon.