2010 BMW X5 Diesel. BMW refused to replace DPF under warranty, I did what I had to do (4D16)

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  • Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
  • After multiple visits to local BMW and over $4k spent, BMW still refused to replace the DEF filter under Emissions warranty. So I did what I had to do.
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  • @AdamSmith12
    @AdamSmith12 2 роки тому +15

    In most states if your car is under warranty and they don’t fix it in 3 attempts you can get a free lawyer under moss magnusun (sp?) breach of warranty claim. You should be able to get at least $4k and it’s completely free if you win or lose (the law mandates the manufacturer pays your lawyer). I did this for a car I owned, dealership gave me the run around also.

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  2 роки тому

      This is good info, thank you! Wish I knew earlier. Will know for next time 👍

    • @AdamSmith12
      @AdamSmith12 2 роки тому +3

      You could still get a consultation, even if you fix it they owe you. It’s worth a shot. I’m not a lawyer or affiliated with any firms, just hate when companies screw their customers.

  • @Scubadiver2003
    @Scubadiver2003 Рік тому +4

    Same things happened to me. I have 2012 X5 diesel. Got that check engine light with exhaust system codes. Been to a BMW dealer, they were clearing codes, I get my car back. drive 2 days and light comes back on, I go back to the dealer, they clear codes again, replace CO2 sensor, light comes back next day, I go back- they do the same thing. It continued up until my warranty expired (by 20 miles) and they say, well we need to change EGR and parts of exhaust system but you have to pay for it now 😡. Tried to reason with them that I came way before warranty ended, but they claimed it was a different problem... So, frustrated. Even tried to call BMW, got no response.. Drove for a while went to a local shop who showed bunch of exhaust system failure codes and said its cheaper to buy a new car than fix this one. I did not expected it from BMW... Thanks for a great video!

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  Рік тому +1

      Yea it’s crazy. 😣

    • @chengsun649
      @chengsun649 Рік тому +2

      @@L8R-HP Not to be surprised next time. You probably need to try Attorney General's Office and call BWM to have a case there. BWM has a very toxic culture and their service ppl constantly lie to the customers. Most of them don't have good knowledge of diesel cars as well.

    • @charliedecker7702
      @charliedecker7702 Рік тому

      Look for the Adam Smith comment, 3 x times failed fix then a free lawyer u der"a lemon law" to get compensation

  • @isa540
    @isa540 2 роки тому +4

    Good job on your project. I am sure you're now enjoying a more dynamic, powerful X5d that is more fuel efficient as well.

  • @mateykolev9510
    @mateykolev9510 Рік тому +3

    The EPA will not do anything. I called them about my X5 35d and they said that manufacturers should design the emissions so they are good for at least 120 000 miles, but they have no way of enforcement. Basically they said BMW should do the work but only if they want to. EPA is powerless in this matter. So even if they see this video, nothing will happen.

  • @Crimsonhaha
    @Crimsonhaha 2 роки тому +7

    Put your seat belt on 👍

  • @spencer9854
    @spencer9854 2 роки тому +3

    North Carolina doesn't check emissions on diesels they only do a safety inspection.

  • @AndrewGoessling1
    @AndrewGoessling1 2 роки тому +4

    Hey, great video, thank you! I am curious what tune you used before removing the DPF? Looking for something that will clear my CEL while (hopefully) improving HP & MPG. I am also in North Carolina (Raleigh) any advice on where to bring the car would be great as well. Thanks!

  • @oldyeller7480
    @oldyeller7480 2 роки тому +1

    Their are shops that will clean your dpf and flow test it cost is usually around 360$ removal and reinstall is a pain though. Just a option.

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  2 роки тому

      Why would I do that if the vehicle is still under warranty? BMW messed up, they should of replaced it.

    • @timcarter9146
      @timcarter9146 7 місяців тому

      It’s too late for any of the it’s ruined now. Buy aftermarket and carry on you must of messed your warranty up

  • @jamiefarmer8125
    @jamiefarmer8125 Рік тому +2

    Omg ! Avoided the real problem, just created more.

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  Рік тому

      I know right 😅😂 mpg is amazing now

  • @salemfoster1709
    @salemfoster1709 5 місяців тому +1

    Did you coat the inside of the 3" hole you drilled in the DPF's ceramic filter with something? It looks as if you might have after the fact. Also, I'm guessing you didn't do an EGR delete along with this? Using the original DPF assembly might require blocking off that port if you do yeah?

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  5 місяців тому +1

      Didn’t coat with anything. Also egr is still there but disabled

  • @Leo70780
    @Leo70780 11 місяців тому +1

    Aren't cars with DPF meant to be driven on a HWY for a few 100 miles once a month at 80 /90 mph so the DOF can regenerate .?

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  11 місяців тому

      20 min of highway driving should regenerate is if the system is working properly

  • @miceinoz1181
    @miceinoz1181 Рік тому +1

    Did you do a DPF regeneration followed by a reset of the values (you will need a good quality 2 way communication scanner for this, Launch/Autel/SnapOn etc)? Have you checked the values of the diff pressure sensor for the DPF on the scanner? An efficiency code is generally picked up by the pressure differential across the DPF being outside programmed limits. A faulty sensor could also cause this.

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  Рік тому +2

      No dpf no problems 😅

    • @timcarter9146
      @timcarter9146 7 місяців тому

      Should of just dropped subframe alil. Shit going to be throwing some codes now

  • @katherinezhang1318
    @katherinezhang1318 9 місяців тому +1

    So you did the software delete or tune first. Can you drive without physically delete dpf and scr first.
    I am going to do the same thing but just want to make sure it is ok to do like that. tjx

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  9 місяців тому

      If your DPF filter is clogged and you keep driving it could get so hot and catch fire.

  • @howardspellman
    @howardspellman 2 роки тому +1

    Maybe invest in a sawsall and cut out the dpf instead of moving all the the stuff to get at it....Straight pipe it

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  2 роки тому +1

      Haha we have saws all’s for days, wanted to keep it original. That’s why I didn’t order the down pipe. Also it works as a muffler now and it’s not as loud. It is straight piped, but looks original 🤩

    • @nate0031
      @nate0031 Рік тому +3

      @@L8R-HP It's too late now obviously, but should you ever have a similar situation, you can cut the side of the DPF open, leave the front section which is the catalytic converter, and remove the rear section which is the DPF. Weld it back up, tune it to shut off the DPF, and it looks original while having the cat portion still in place to largely get rid of any exhaust smell.

    • @denisovanhybrid9610
      @denisovanhybrid9610 Рік тому +1

      @@nate0031you’re 💯 % correct. Should have left the cat portion at the start and just deleted the DPF section .

  • @tsrfastsaab
    @tsrfastsaab Рік тому +1

    Try another dealer I have the same problem with my BMW under a warranty issue. Also contact BMW directly on their 800 number.

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  Рік тому

      No one has time to contact the 800 # when the same problem will appear in a month

  • @danyalguenduez3476
    @danyalguenduez3476 Рік тому

    Did you recognize more "siren" sound from turbo after removing the dpf?

  • @pradeepsingh8102
    @pradeepsingh8102 2 роки тому

    I have same issue with my dpf, car is out of warranty do you suggestthe same work around for my car it x1 diesel. The error codes I am getting are 480a , 481A , 4391

  • @brooksherrin
    @brooksherrin 2 роки тому +2

    4D16 is and SCR issue not a DPF issue.

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  2 роки тому +1

      Same thing. Puts car in limp mode, bmw didn’t want to fix it under warranty is the whole point here. Won’t be a problem ever again tho 😂😅

    • @nate0031
      @nate0031 Рік тому

      @@L8R-HP You took care of the problem, but they aren't the same thing. DPF was perfectly fine unless you cleared codes for it before the video. The SCR is the bit further down you tapped on. Not uncommon for the NOx sensors to go and give you the efficiency code.
      Either way, you'll never have those worries again, lol.

  • @AM4project
    @AM4project 2 роки тому +2

    i have the same problem with mine

  • @zachgiddens4569
    @zachgiddens4569 2 роки тому +1

    This check engine dash light turned off on its own after your hard work?

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  2 роки тому

      After tune yes, no lights on dash 👍

  • @rOstwald
    @rOstwald Рік тому

    How does one find a shop that "potholes"?

  • @maandalorian
    @maandalorian Рік тому +1

    According to what regulations do you expect a warranty at 118,000 miles?

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  Рік тому

      Emissions warranty was extended on these to 118k

    • @denisovanhybrid9610
      @denisovanhybrid9610 Рік тому

      EPA extended warranty. Look it up . Forced manufacturers to extend warranty for any emissions related issues or failures .

  • @meldee2960
    @meldee2960 2 роки тому +1

    With that process did you sensors or are you running with them all connected?

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  2 роки тому +2

      Everything is connected. But it is tuned for off road use

    • @meldee2960
      @meldee2960 2 роки тому

      Ok I have a 2009 335d wat will be a good tuned for it

  • @melendez23031984
    @melendez23031984 4 місяці тому +1

    Hi guys i need do tha in my bmw

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  4 місяці тому

      EPA says you can’t. This was only for testing. Sorry. Thank the epa for that….

  • @antster7
    @antster7 2 роки тому +1

    I'm guessing this won't pass smog in CA?

  • @Randywatson34
    @Randywatson34 Рік тому +1

    So what are they saying the problem is?

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  Рік тому

      They kept replacing sensors until it was over $5k in labor and vehicle was out of warranty….

    • @Randywatson34
      @Randywatson34 11 місяців тому

      @@L8R-HP did you ever call BMW and get the regional Director involved?

  • @jean-ericbruno2867
    @jean-ericbruno2867 2 роки тому

    I have a BMW 2012 x5 xdrive 35d, I am having the same problem that you had. Can you do the same for my car then replace the glow plugs and the controller?

    • @itr835
      @itr835 2 роки тому

      Glow plugs and GCU, you can do at home w basic tools, some free time, lots of patience and lots of choice words. At least that was the case for my wife’s 2012 35d. When it came to my 2012 35d, it wasn’t as bad.

  • @riddjo
    @riddjo Рік тому

    Removing it and deleting DPF puts you at risk for $25000 EPA fines !!!
    The reason the dealer won't replace the DPF under warranty is that your vehicle was most likely burning oil or coolant which will clog a new DPF in a short time. The engine damage that creates coolant and small oil leaks is related to not doing regular EGR/mass airflow sensor and intake system cleaning. The mass air sensor gets clogged with soot from dirty exhaust and when mass air sensor gets covered it reads incorrect and causes EGR valve to operate erratically or stay open or closed , if it stays in one position too longit will get built up with soot and carbon and get stuck in that position. If it stays open well engine is put under load it will overheat the EGR cooler ,the head, the turbo etc . And overheated had may cause head gasket leaks an overheated turbo may cause oil leaks into the combustion which will then clog the DPF filter

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  Рік тому

      Wrong. Spent more then 25k on repairing def. What’s another $25k am I right 😂
      Def system is a joke, they don’t work and leave people stranded.

    • @riddjo
      @riddjo Рік тому

      @@L8R-HP I agree they are engineered to fail without specific and constant cleaning maintenance and if your higher mileage engine has small leaks like regular blow by in the rings it will cause failures

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  Рік тому

      @@riddjo I’ve had a bunch of sprinter vans. They had issues with def since new. It’s always something with def. Drivers are stranded across the country with 0 starts remaining 🤦🏻‍♂️
      Most government vehicles don’t use DEF. Weird 🤔

    • @riddjo
      @riddjo Рік тому

      @@L8R-HPI don't disagree with you at all for deleting the system. I was just saying if they come looking it can be crazy fines !!!
      They won't know on yours by looking at it but if they pull out the temperature gun and check the components they will know.
      The unreliability of these systems is the same in the trucking industry ninety percent of the problems are DPF EGR mass air sensor NOx sensor problems and def dosing or pump problems.
      Overall it doesn't look like emission systems create environmental efficiency. Every heavy vehicle that has an emission system is using 2 to 4 miles per gallon more fuel because of the restriction it creates in the exhaust and it causes engine breakdown prematurely due to heat and carbon build up inside the motor & valve train.
      Older truck diesel engines used to run for up to 2 million miles before a rebuild was necessary. Today's truck motors cannot make it past 600,000 MIles without huge failures and massive amounts of money spent on emissions repairs.

  • @martinkunzmann9973
    @martinkunzmann9973 Рік тому

    What tune did you use?

  • @oldyeller7480
    @oldyeller7480 Рік тому +1

    Did you have to get a new tune for it ? Do any codes show now?

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  Рік тому

      Yes new tune. No codes. No issues. Great MPG

    • @jeremy22b
      @jeremy22b Рік тому +1

      ​@@L8R-HPwhat tune?

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  Рік тому +1

      @@jeremy22b custom off road tune

    • @jeremy22b
      @jeremy22b Рік тому

      @@L8R-HP I appreciate the response

  • @timherode1866
    @timherode1866 2 роки тому +1

    How did it pass emissions check though for license renewal? I’d love to do this to mine.

  • @jeremy22b
    @jeremy22b Рік тому +1

    How many hours were involved?

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  Рік тому

      2-3

    • @jeremy22b
      @jeremy22b Рік тому

      @@L8R-HP You're hired! Did you do full delete, EGR, DPF, SCR?

  • @andrewtravers7964
    @andrewtravers7964 2 роки тому +1

    There is two turbos on my 335d surprised there is not one on a x5

  • @jasongreene2645
    @jasongreene2645 2 роки тому +1

    How the hell did you get that clamp back on the catalytic converter? I have to change my clamp and gasket, so I’m try to see the best way to go about it

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  2 роки тому

      I used a light amount of Grease to keep the gasket in place. The clamp was a pain and took a while to get in place, it’s not easy but possible 😀

  • @rockfordwoods5432
    @rockfordwoods5432 8 місяців тому +1

    You obviously know nothing about how the car's emission system functions. Code 4D16 has nothing to do with the DPF. It is caused by a bad NOX sensor. All you had to do was replace those. Instead you have broken federal and state laws re emission modifications.

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  8 місяців тому +1

      Couldn’t care less. Dealer replaced the NOX sensor 3 times and some other stuff. Bill was around $8,000 in 6 weeks. If filter is clogged it’s clogged.

  • @lavernerobinson6689
    @lavernerobinson6689 Рік тому

    What shop i this please

  • @DennyFrenchNetwork
    @DennyFrenchNetwork 2 роки тому +2

    What oil and filter combo do you recommend once this is done?

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  2 роки тому +1

      I still use the BMW recommended oil and filter on this one.

    • @DennyFrenchNetwork
      @DennyFrenchNetwork 2 роки тому +1

      @@L8R-HP Thank you! Wondered because I switched to Liqui Moly Longtime High Tech 5W-30, had to add a quart within a couple of months, and now again, but it’s almost due…Seen in many forums that people switch to Shell Rotella T6 and Mobil Delvac

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  2 роки тому

      @@DennyFrenchNetwork o ok. How many miles do you have? This one has 120k miles. Never have to add oil between changes.

    • @DennyFrenchNetwork
      @DennyFrenchNetwork 2 роки тому +1

      @@L8R-HP we have about the same mileage, however, one day the on board computer shows one thing abs the next day everything seems to be fine 🤦‍♂️

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  2 роки тому

      @@DennyFrenchNetwork could be just a dirty speed sensor. I’ve had that on my older e39 BMW and just cleaned all 4 speed sensors and no problems

  • @TheRustyCracker
    @TheRustyCracker 3 роки тому +2

    SUS

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  3 роки тому

      😂🤣

    • @bobtefft8536
      @bobtefft8536 3 роки тому +1

      How long did that process take?

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  3 роки тому

      @@bobtefft8536 almost a full day 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @foolyou7633
      @foolyou7633 2 роки тому

      @@L8R-HP do you have contact info?

    • @Michael-gy6cx
      @Michael-gy6cx Рік тому

      How do you do delete?

  • @tsrfastsaab
    @tsrfastsaab Рік тому +1

    Putting a disclaimer that you're only using these vehicles off-road or for racing means nothing to the EPA. If a car came with a emssion components it's ilegal to remove it for any reason. I would caution this type of content they're really starting to crack down

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  Рік тому +6

      Couldn’t care less 🤷🏼‍♂️ they should crack down on the dealers for having shitty service. Im here to void warranties for life

  • @foolyou7633
    @foolyou7633 2 роки тому

    Hey fellas do you have contact info, the link on you home page sends you somewhere that doesn't seem like your thing.

    • @foolyou7633
      @foolyou7633 2 роки тому

      But as I look again... might be your business? Either way if you will can I have some contact info. And you're located in North Carolina?

  • @xrpo.g6855
    @xrpo.g6855 Рік тому +1

    Get rid of it and get a Tesla. Will never need to worry about anything ever again and will save you in maintenence & fuel over the yrs of ownership.

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  Рік тому +5

      Until you need a $30k battery replaced, and a small loan to pay your power bill 😅,
      Electric cars aren’t bad, for local driving, I drive a lot, there is no electric car that can fit my schedule and miles I travel.

    • @xrpo.g6855
      @xrpo.g6855 Рік тому

      @@L8R-HP The mis information that ppl seem to spread never ceases to amaze me.
      When it comes to Tesla: 1. Battery pack is supposed to last the life of the vehicle. Close to 1 mill miles. If after that not getting full 100% state of charge (which is normal) and only getting 40 or 50% in range compared to new after 3/4 of a million miles bothers you then you can replay the pack (by that time the cost to replace will be much much cheaper.
      2. Electricity is cheap. Your utility bill if regularly charge at home the vehicle will increase by $20-$30 per bill... How much in savings will this be for you compared to Fuel charges you pay a month? (Not to mention savings in maintenance costs aswell.)
      3. You can travel anywhere in a Tesla as they are the only ones today still with a dedicated network of super chargers. U literally can go anywhere with 0 issues.
      Again all the above applies to Tesla. I can't say the same about an other manufacturer and the ev's they are producing. If buying an ev it doesn't make sense to buy anything other then a tesla tbh.. I mean why buy an inferior product when you can have the best from the best and at a much lower cost.

    • @L8R-HP
      @L8R-HP  Рік тому +4

      @@xrpo.g6855 going full electric will never make sense, hybrids sure. Full electric is ok if all you need is to runs to a store to get milk, but when you travel 3-5k miles a week sometimes you will spend half your life at a charging station. No one has time for that. Hybrid ok. Bi-Fuel ok. Full electric, good luck when the power goes out.

    • @xrpo.g6855
      @xrpo.g6855 Рік тому

      @@L8R-HP It takes 30 mins to charge from 0 - 80% at a super charger. If your travelling far you need to stop to eat and use the bathroom anyway.... thats when you would charge and continue on your way. The car tells you how much u need to charge to continue on. u don't have to sit and wait 30mins if you don't want to. as long as you have enough charge to get to your next stop along the way to your destination you are fine.. Ice vehicles are like a horse and carriage now. Thing of the past. Hybrids are a gimmick. Pointless.

    • @Javy1021
      @Javy1021 Рік тому +2

      @@xrpo.g6855 you can say whatever you want but, there’s is gas stations everywhere you go! Can’t say the same for chargers!
      We still not there on infrastructure to compete whit gas/diesel!