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The Ultimate H Pattern Shifter? Fanatec vs Frex vs Prosim!
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2020
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I had the Fanatec Shifter, and wouldnt recommend it. I often changed between sq and h-pattern tepending the car I drove and almost every time, after a few laps in sequential Mode the gearchanges were not recognized anymore. i assume due to the vibration of the gearchange, the switch slider to choose between h-pattern and sq, slided back a bit. My only solution was a piece of carved wood, which I put in between.
Yeah, seems like a lot of people that are using it as both sequential and H pattern is getting issues with it..
Thanks for your comment!
Yup! Don’t recommend it. I’ve owed two Fanatec shifters since 2017. The first one I switched between H and SQ a lot. It actually started registering wrong gears in the first two months of ownership. Had it repaired then it started doing it again about 6 months later. I ended up giving it away.
Then I bought another one and it worked fine for about 9 months. 8 of those months I never switched it to SQ mode, not once. Then in the 9th month I started switching it between SQ and H and it almost immediately started registering wrong gears. I had to send it out to be repaired. I just got it back a few days ago. I know for sure the problem will come back. Garbage.
This is why we need more H Pattern shifters on the market. With what’s available on the market currently I’d recommend a TH8A and an AioLogs. Don’t even go near the Fanatec.
@@OhItsThat Yeah you have really had issues with yours mate!..
So you never had an issue untill you started using it in SQ mode. The only time I had mine in SQ was in my review to show it, so only been used in H pattern. Maybe they should make 2 versions of it instead if they can't get the combo to work..
Really sad Heusinkveld never got their H pattern out.. . Would have loved to try that one!
R-VR Closet The HE one would have been great. It’s a shame they felt it needed to be a H/SQ combo.
Its high end sim gear aimed at the enthusiast sim racer who will most likely have space to mount a separate SQ. If they were thinking something more mainstream and affordable I’d say they don’t have the production capacity to produce a product that they can sell to the masses. Their products are never in stock to begin with, pre pandemic. Who cares what people can invent if you can’t buy one cause they can’t actually make enough.
Plus they already make a great compact SQ shifter so why compete with yourself or with products you already have? I think the reality of a H/SQ combo isn’t doable without major comprises at both ends. At least not if you want it to be an immersive product for a price that’s reasonable. As well as reliable after years of thrashing on it.
I’m sure they could have figured something out eventually but the fact that they shelved it shows the combo shifter isn’t very reasonable if you want good H and SQ functionality in the same device. It leaves to much room for problems down the road I think.
@@OhItsThat So was that why they cancelled it, they thought we wanted another SQ/H shifter on the market??.. As you say, most sim enthusiasts want good gear for specific purposes, and we are dying for more solid H shifters on the maket! And also as you said, why compete with them self?? And they are not really targeting the mainstream sim market with their gear..
They should put WARNING signs on the boxes... " Can wake up wives" or " Divorce maker" instead of PEGI 3.🤔😁
Hahaha, yeah that might not ba a bad idea!🙉😅
Did you see your a** punting on Historic Interlagos by the way?🙈😂
Had the Frex Sequential YEARS AGO and loved it! The 'clunk' was very minimal...I would still have it but a old friend made me an offer years later and I couldn't resist! Still one of the better shifters (IMHO) on the market!
Cool, thanks for the input!👍
Never tried the Frex Sequential, but really liking the Frex H in old formula cars and prototypes.😍👌
Great video, very helpful. Thanks!
Thank you for watching and the comment!
Good man. Nicely presented. Info for Frex buyers. After selecting to buy and checking out, before paying, click on your Orders in account and follow the instructions. You do not get an email to tell you how to pay. I await delivery just after Christmas. Merry Xmas all.
Thank you so much!
Hope you will like it, and Merry Christmas!
Excellent video bro!! 👍👏
Thank you so much buddy!! :)
There is a DIY fix for the Fanatec mis-shifts, it involves putting some insolation tape (electrical tape I think Americans call it) on the back of the two circuit boards to stop the short causing the mis shifts. Theres a video on youtube, its extremely easy and mine has worked since.
Thanks a lot for the tip mate!!
@@RVRCloset No probs, I'm not making excuses for them, honestly it's mind-boggling that they even still sell it with such a basic, easily-fixable design flaw. Even though all my other Fanatec gear has been superb, that shifter is the reason I upgraded to a Simucube rather than a DD a few months back.
Just if anyone reading is in a situation where there's is broken, thought it might be helpful to know it's not completely beyond repair.
Great channel :)
@@illiteratethug3305 Never had any issues with my Fanatec shifter, but really helpful to know!😃👌
Thank you so much mate!🍻
Here we had an advertisement about a cleaning product and they tested it with a cotton to show how clean it was and then they said "cotton does not deceive". Well, in this case we could say that "the elastic band does not deceive"😂😂
every time you pull the elastic band I'm scared hahaha 😱
I love levers, someday I will have one 😄
Hahaha, sorry I scare you my friend!💪🙈😅😂
Thanks for watching as always!😍😘
@@RVRCloset yes you scared me 😥😂😂😂😘
@@escorpio5911 😳🙉😂😅😍
You need to get another subscriber that number bothers me. Lol. Great upload as always but more interested in peddles. Most racing for me is with paddles. But occasionally I’ll race some older cars. Not so often because they just don’t handle the same. Like as always 👍
Hahaha, yeah I saw the number of the beast today! :D
Thank you so much as always friend!!
Thankyou very VERY MUCH!!! Mr R-VR Closet Man... cos after the great info in this video, I am definitely a FREX man, I would say. One issue I would need to consider though, as I assume all new hardware buyers would - and that is that using a G29 on an A-Frame Stand, makes it very easy to move around. As both the pedals & gear lever go straight into the WHEEL itself, and not into the USB. So have you run into any problems on your end, as I imagine nearly all the gear you own would have to be plugged in separately?. So you must be running some sort of USB HUB to take them all --- is that correct???
You are welcome good sir SingleRacer! And yes, that would be the perfect shifter for you!😎👌
I'm using two powered TP-Link 7 port usb hubs.😁
@@RVRCloset "Two powered TP-Link 7 port usb Hubs", you say................................................. Show Off, hahahahaha
@@SingleRacerSVR Hahaha, and still I'm using most of the ports on my pc as well.. .😎😅
Wow someone who has a Fanatec Shifter and had no warranty claim! Lottery winner!
Yeah I must be lucky it seems.😅 Or it has something to do with that I never used it in sq mode.
@@RVRCloset I'm on number 4, and it's starting to fail. 2 replaced under warranty, 1 failed the moment the warranty was up. Sq mode has nothing to do this. They feel good to use, but they do not hold up. I will never buy from them again.
@@Wilburnator Oh man, that's really not good!!.. :O
I've had mine now for 3 years without issues.
@@RVRCloset I don't know, all I ever drive in iRacing is the L79, so I give them tons of use. If I ever had one last anywhere nearly as long as 3 years, I wouldn't be so sour on them. I'm glad yours is good. If everyone they made failed, they probably wouldn't still be in business. But my personal experience tells me it's time to get a Frex. That's why I'm here!
Thanks for this comparison. The Frex has always appealed to me but there is very little content on the Frex H+, aside from SRG. Would it be possible to do a long term review on the Frex and any issues you've experienced with it?
Thank you for the comment!
Yeah, I tried to find more on it too before I bought it, but not easy!..
Yes, there will be a review, I need a lot more time with it though, so it will take a while.
But my first impressions of it is really good.
@@RVRCloset do you still have the Frex? Any new developments since you've had the shifter?
@@timt8199 I still have it, it's my go to shifter for prototypes and h shifter formula cars.👍
I'm not sure if they have done any changes since I got mine.
FREX for group c is a must or old f1
it's really a pleasure almost with new aluminium design
So true! My go to shifter for prototypes and classic formula cars! :D
This is the results that I thought I would hear from this video, will just have to see how the longevity of the Frex is.
Hehe yeah, I'm all for the immersion! That means you need to replicate the gear used in any driven car..😅👌
Yes, that is the big question!
@@RVRCloset frex !!! no problems..... unless you are a bear!!
@@jeanmarclevy9413 That is comforting to hear mate!💪😃👌
Next level!
Thank you bro!🍻
Nice man. I really like the look of the Frex. I think it’s modeled after a Porsche 962 gear box. Since I drive that car a lot I’d say I need one:) What you and I really need are gear lock outs. Seriously!
Still no word on the Pro Sim. Hopefully it ships soon. My AioLogs handbrake is on the way though.
Yeah, the Frex is really nice, liking it a lot in those cars!😎
The Frex also have a lock out, but made to work with their own pedals, might be possible to mod on the HE, but think I have a longer throw on my clutch..
Hope you get it soon, but nice your HB is on the way!
Guess I will have my second Aiologs within a week or so.
Hey man. We’re in the same Dirt league with Douglas Thompson. You’ve 27 seconds on me after 2 stages!
Any update on how the Frex is holding up? I’m on PS so need a Drivehub so I’m limited to Frex H or Aiologs seq.
I love the idea of the engagement with the Frex but I’m probably going to get the Aiologs handbrake too so the symmetry of both Aiologs is appealing.
I know you gave your Aiologs to Douglas. Did you not like it?
Ah cool, hi Gavan!
The Frex is holding up fine, really liking it for formula cars and old prototypes, on Drivehub it says Frex GP though, not sure what they mean with that, the H pattern is called H Shift+.
Yes, one of my Aiologs went to Douglas, I have two. :)
The Aiologs shifter is really great, and one of the most price worthy SQ shifters on the market imo.
Good luck in the league, and will follow your runs!
@@RVRCloset You're dead right. I messaged CollectiveMonds for clarification on what they mean by "GP" seeing as there's no shifter on the Frex site called GP.
Dead?😁
Yeah weird, and the SQ is named just Shifter+..
Please let me know what they answer!
@@RVRCloset Dead-right, as in, you're REALLY right. Sorry - regional colloquialism.
@@gavancorrigan8813 Ah hahaha, I read it as dead, right.😂
Fanatec SQ 1.5 Miss shift issues? READ HERE: Electrical tape between the sensor board and the metal where it's mounted.
I have the Fanatec Shifter, the SQ 1.5, and had miss shift issues. Sometimes it would be fine, other times it would keep registering the wrong gears. 3rd instead of 5th. Reverse instead of 1st. 4th instead of 6th. I was frustrated and about to give up. I tried the little centering magnet fix. No dice, mine was in the right position and glued in place. THEN, I came across 2Old4Forza's fix video. He showed lifting up the little circuit board with the sensor and placing some electrical tape between the board and the metal it rests on. IT WORKED. There must have been a short happening. I have not had any issues since.
Thank you for the info, and commenting!
@@RVRCloset No problem. After seeing a few of the comments, I can imagine others getting this issue and the fix being difficult to find. The Frex looks great, BTW. Probably my next upgrade after I get my 8020 rig together. Thanks for the informative video!
@@mr6291 Thanks!🍻
Yeah really liking the frex!👍
Thanks I may give this a try
Here's what's wrong with that theory. You can put the tape on the sensor board, but the metal screws go through the tape and into the metal plate, so that assures that the tape actually insulates nothing. Also the magnet fix is no fix at all. The magnet being centered is not that important anyway. When you calibrate the shifter, that's a big part of what you're doing, correcting for a possibly miss-aligned magnet. I've had this same issue with 4 separate CSS SQ shifters. Almost every time I took the top off to try to fix it, just taking it off and putting it back on seems to make it work for a few days, or even a few weeks. This led me to think the tape fix had worked, but I kept having to repeat the "fix" every few weeks, until it dawned on me that you circumvent the insulating property of the tape the instant you screw the sensor back on. One thing that DOES happen that can cause this... there is a tiny 3 inch long 4-wire harness that plugs from one thing to another that is flexed every time you shift. These wires are tiny and can crack and short, cause the wrong gear to be selected. check for wear and put a dab of silicone sealer on the wires where they enter the plug on each end. Remove the harness first unless you want to accidentally glue it in...
What about the 🐀 squashing test??? Otherwise nice vid fella!
Frex: 🐀🐀🐀
Fanatec: 🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀
ProSim: 🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀
Darn, I forgot the squashing!!.. .👀😳😱🙊
The squash rating goes as follows:
1 st place goes to the Prosim
2 nd place Fanatec
3 rd Frex
Hahaha you nailed it in edit!💪😹👌
@@RVRCloset The next shifter I review, I will definitely feature rat squashing. That's a promise!!!!🔨🐀
@@RVRCloset Judging the weight and size of each shifter I made some predictions.
@@SimRacingCorner Looking forward to that! And I bet Sim cat does as well!😻😁👌
Well prosim is $1650 and fanatec is $250 no shit prosim wins. How much is frex shifter?
Around $500
Hello . BigLike.💓👍
Thanks mate! :)
Your friends are damaging fanatec because they to rough I've seen people use the gear changer like they literally trying to break it also seen people break actual Gear sticks in actual cars so they're not indestructible
Yes that can surly be the case in many cases, not so sure in those cases though, all I know for sure is that they have switched between SQ and H, and I have only used mine in H pattern.