I remember my boss having one of these all because he was a left-handed mouse user, and the mouse (and USB ports on both sides) was perfectly geared towards lefties, while most other PC hardware at the time didn't account for left-handed users.
strangly enough, I'm left handed but for some reason, the mouse always felt more comfortable on the right. maybe it's my muscle memory talking. just like I play guitar (badly...hehe) and drums right-handed vs. left-handed....again, probably has to do with muscle memory. I've tried left-handed configurations of things and, I don't know...it just feels "alien" to me.
They STILL don't accept it. THe Magic Mouse WAS NOT designed to be used like a typical, SANELY designed mouse. You just change a setting, and half the time it doesn't work. And the Charging port in the most inconvenient place possible. Honestly whoever designed THAT part should be fired.
6:02 funny how this keyboard uses a "generic" symbol for the Start button key, which turned out to be the actual Windows 11 logo 10 (or more) years later :D
Great piece of nostalgia here. I love the aluminum keyboard (typing on it at the moment), but thankfully I never experienced any catastrophic events with it. But, I agree, it is too expensive to replace on a whim. Hopefully Apple will come out with a TouchBar standalone keyboard before mine bites the dust :P . I would love to hear your opinions on Apple mice, especially with the new Magic Mouse 2, and even the Magic Trackpads in the mix! Thank you again for your enjoyable content!!!
These videos took me back! My first experience was playing Oregon Trail on an APPLE II in elementary school (I never made it all the way. Sally ALWAYS got dysentery!), and then playing Lemmings on a Macintosh Performa 550 in Middle/High School. I LOVED their startup chime and was fascinated with the power button on the keyboard. The ones at our school used CD caddies instead of a slide out tray. It seemed so futuristic. LOL! Personally, I always used Windows computers, but coveted Apple’s hardware and software, especially when the iMac G3’s came out. Pre OS X systems were so fun to me compared to Windows (For Workgroups!) 3.11. I got some of the “Apple-ish” satisfaction once Windows 95 came out. Fast forward a few years and the first time I saw my friend with a 12 inch PowerBook G4, I decided the time had come to make the switch. I went to CompUSA and bought an iMac G5 and have been an fanboy ever since! I have a closet that serves as an Apple graveyard for all my retired products, save for the few machines I’ve given to friends/family.
i love the feel of a good old mechanical keyboard. something about the sounds of the keys and the force it takes make me feel much more productive and i hit the wrong keys less
We had the first keyboard (and a bunch of blueberry iMacs) in one of my classes in middle school. We used them with some cataloging software for minerals (it was a physical science class). Suffice to say that was my favorite class. Thanks Mr. Klug!
+Profound Thoughts And the older ones look like Fisher Price childrens' toys, and their operating systems are "obsolete" after a couple of years, and you have to be at least metrosexual in order to purchase one.
ProfoundThoughts Apple does have good computers but they're more for office work, not widely popular for gaming and stuff. However the ipod, iphone, iwhatever. Not amazing but a good idea. They break easy.
I just got two AEKIIs (one for spares). Intending to use it with this new ADB-USB adapter: www.bigmessowires.com/usb-wombat/ Supposedly works better with ISO layouts (non-US) than the old Griffin iMate.
It's interesting to see how polarising the newest aluminium keyboard is - I've used it on my desktop for the past 10 years, and I just love it; I find it to be very elegant and light and it makes typing easy and ergonomic. That being said, I do get that many people who are used to more conventional types of keyboards might find it unusable.
Panther Only because of the reactions that the Hockey Puck mouse is going to get.... especially if you hook it up to a computer and make the users try to use it!
"So you can see that the official Apple version costs at least 2-3 times more than these pieces of junk, and you can kinda see there's a pretty good reason for that" Well yes but actually no
@@geeksomeguy Yesn't. That is very often true, but there are and were quite a frew Products of the world that cost much and performe garbage and the other way around. In the Case of this Keyboard - IDK. It completely depends on what Apple is (was?) charging for that sucker. Might be a decent Keyboard, but if they charge Galore like Apple likes to do, not worth the money at all.
@@pathetic_girl Aluminium ain't THAT expansive. Even for a single milled piece of Aluminium, price propably wouldn't exceed 50$, if it's a membrane keyboard. Lower cost of course, if it's made out of sheet Aluminium, that is actually insanely cheap (There is a reason, why we tin shit in Aluminium, it's cheap AF, yet sturdy enough)
Some of the 1243's had really short cables btw. Mine is so short I need an extension cable to use it in my mac pro tower under my desk or have to plug into a hub or monitor.
1:11 _PAUSE !_ Anyone know how to de-yellow those translucent cables on the keyboard and mouse? Retrobright doesn't seem to have any effect (unless I wasn't using enough).
I don't get how people can complain about not having enough travel on the keys, then say they like those modern Apple aluminum keyboards. They are CRAP. They are a testament to Apple's obsession with form over function and making everything thin for no reason. Give me a nice bog standard IBM-style keyboard any day.
+Jeremy Morton Exactly!!! I don't understand how can people use them! It just seems though as if consumers have reached to a point where if you give them utter shit but stick an apple logo to it they'd just celebrate it endlessly!
I agree. I still buy mechanical keyboards with clicky switches and full form factors. I'm currently on a WASD brand CODE keyboard right now, and I know some people with IBM Model M keyboards that just have a bunch of adapters on them for USB compatibility.
You are partially right about the latest aluminium keyboard ... I got one as a BD gift from my wife. Later she spilled orange juice and this busted it. Apart of this case I had washed few aluminiums straight in a dishwasher. Just need to watt for some days to dry completely inside and the are just like brand new :)
@@gillespieffet8677 Water is the least of adversaries, due to the absence of sugar and what not. Obviously if there's no power hooked up (assuming and/or if all caps have been discharged prior to cleaning - say a board, motherboard, sound card etc.) Heck, there was even an episode where The 8-Bit Guy cleaned a board in his dishwasher, turned out better than ever.
For some reason I really like that faded yellow look that white keyboards turn into. I reminds me a lot of old keyboards as most of the white ones have faded by now.
If you like the styling of the black keyboard, and the typing feel of the older keyboard, you should look at Matias Keyboards, which combine the best aspects of both, using Alps switches. They even have an all white version specifically for Macs.
Thanks for posting these. Maybe I missed it, but apparently the Apple Extended Keyboard II was the last mechanical keyboard apple put out. It's in storage now, but I don't recall if mine is a II or just regular standard extended keyboard. I have another keyboard made by Alps, with a glide pad thing on it and 3 buttons. When I got my B/W G3 300mhz I was happy that it had an ADB port and that keyboard worked. I loved the keys on it and was great for doing long-form writing. Like letters or creative writing. However, one of the best is the Model M by IBM/Lexmark. With the USB to PS/2 adaptor, I use it every day for high-speed stuff for my job. I can bang away all day and not suffer pain in the joints of my hand and fingers. I'm considering getting a Unicomp Revamped Model M. The issue with the Alps, is even with one of the ADB to usb adaptor cubes I bought online (I wish I had a Griffin iMate) is that apparently there are no drivers for Mac OSX or anything PC, so I can't use it. I can use the Apple Extended keyboard though.
The iBookGuy I love that site :-) I'm thinking of getting an SD to floppy drive adapter for my C64 but not sure which one is the best, and curious if you know which is, or if you have ever used one?
The iBookGuy Honestly I'm the same way these days, but I've had the itch to get back to using the real hardware, but my 1541 has been acting up, and I thought an SD reader would be a better option. Thanks anyways.
with the keyboards with eject button for the CD/Super Drive, you could press the COMMAND-OPTION-CONTROL-EJECT and it will summon the shut-down or Sleep menu
7:10 my grandma got one from like 2010 she spilled coffee on it one day whole thing was ruined she got a cheap knock off that feels terrible when you type on it irritates me so much!!!!!
i loved that imac keyboard. my school had them, but only in the front row. so not everyone was able to use them, but once i was able to. those keyboards felt good as hell lol
My middle school tech teacher gave me the first model Apple Pro Keyboard (M7803), and I still use it to this day. I need to clean some keys however, but otherwise, it's given me a good 7 years run, I hope it never dies...
Two more that are newer than these keyboards.'I have the one you are talking about, with a cylinder for batteries in the back. The newest one, however, has a solid, thinner base with a chargeable battery.
It's the wireless keyboard. I use one in my dining room connected (thru BlueTooth) to a Mac Mini. I united this keyboard with a trackpad in single piece using a Magic Wand stick.
Great job on the vid! Tip: All mac keyboards although compatible to all macs are not created equal. Some functions may be missing from one to the other. I spent hours trying to figure out the reason why Command F2 did not enable dual screen activation. I wasn't using my newer bluetooth mac keyboard, but an older usb one. As soon as I connected the bluetooth keyboard it worked! However, I wonder if their are alternate keys you can use for the same thing. I searched for some and couldn't find any. Also, the option to do the set up doesn't show up in sys.prefs if you use the older one. Just trying to save someone else the time and money if they pick up a cheap keyboard to try this.
I'd say to do a continuation of this since they keyboard and mouse has evolved slightly. the last aluminum keyboard you featured (the tiny one) is called the magic keyboard since it's bluetooth and automatically pairs when switched on. it also charges and can be used as a wired keyboard while it's charging. annoyingly though (to me), it's too small and light & very hard to type on...just like a laptop keyboard (which I've never been a fan of). the current magic mouse has no visible buttons or scroll whell. in place of the scroll wheel, you swipe up and down...you can also swipe side to side to move between applications which is pretty cool. it's also bluetooth and rechargeable BUT with where you plug in the lightning cable, it's impossible to use while charging. the cool thing about both the magic keyboard and magic mouse is that you can use any standard lightning cable connected to a USB power brick to charge them instead of using ports on your iMac or Mac Mini. Also, if you're able to, you should do an evolution of Apple computers from the start up to 2021. I've personally owned an Apple IIc (with the included green screen monitor) and have used mac clones and Power Macs throughout the years. My current job supplied me with a 2019 iMac which has come a LONG way from when those were introduced in 1998. Interesting sidenote, I actually worked at the tech convention in 1998 where Apple unveiled the iMac at Moscone Center in San Francisco. I was impressed but, at the time, didn't like the all-in-one bit since I could imagine they were a nightmare to repair/upgrade. However, using the current iMac, I've definitely changed my opinion since they're definitely very easy to upgrade things like the internal SSD and RAM. As far as Apple laptops, Apple has always been ahead of the curve with making something high performance yet VERY portable. I mean, how cool is it that you can have a powerful machine to do audio/video production that doesn't take up much real estate on your desk? Anyhow, I've loved watching your videos over the years and like seeing older machines that I used growing up as well. My first computer was the TI99/4A with the voice modulator and cassette storage as add-ons in 1983...I was all of 8 and I'm sure it cost a small fortune back then. Lastly, getting back to the Apple keyboard saga...wasn't there an Apple keyboard that had the usual Apple key (outline of the Apple logo) and a solid Apple key? I could swear I've seen that before.
The old apple keycaps font is so neat and appealing. Just found out a lot of modern mechanical keycaps copy this typeface like the KBDfans and some Magicforce keycaps
I know this is an old video but one thing I've allways been curious about is, since some of theese Apple keyboards use USB, would they work on a Windows PC? I've tried it the other way round, using a regular PC USB keyboard on a Mac and that worked, so I assume the opposite would also work but I could be wrong.
We had four of those first usb keyboard computers to trade off use in our computer class in middle school. It was my favorite one to use as far as mac goes.
The iBookGuy i concur i enjoyed this video being that i was born late 90's seeing this stuff just makes me wanna travel back and use this to get the true feeling of what they evolved to, and i rather prefer the older macs and things for there originality and choice of personal color and appearance. i have an old neighbor around 40 really awesome old underground hacker/tech guy back when hacking was something to be proud of, hes got some of the old mac hardware and these were beautiful machines which i would of loved to own. sadly there rendered obsolete to today's standards there still works of art that generally performed great for there time.
If you make the mouse history vid I will watch it. However, it's not necessary. We all know Apple mice [mouses?] are abominations to ergonomics that should be in a museum.
Agreed so many one button mice, when even the early iMacs with a USB port could use a normal PC mouse that had more buttons, and the OS made use of them all LOL!
2023 and I still use my 2007 aluminium keyboard (that came with my2007 iMac) with my M1 MacBook Pro. Works great still (though I did break another of these keyboards at my workplace, by spilling tea on it 😕). Agree about the old original iMac USB ones. Absolutely beautiful things. The white clear ones that came along later were terrible, not just for yellowing, but for accumulating dirt inside. They looked like a health hazard after year or two of use 😅
the A1048 is my fav :) I had a whole cup of coffee spilled into my current one... it stopped working for a couple of months then I tried it out to se how many keys would work and they all do.. working perfectly again!!
Actually, I disagree on your last point on the Aluminium keyboard. I would go as far to say that it is far more versatile in my opinion compared to prior versions. A lot of stuff has got under the keys on and drinks have been spilled on mine, yet it functions just as it did when I got it several years ago. I even clean it just through washing it in the sink, directly under water-- no problems. On the other hand, I've broken two of the older plastic style keyboards through water damage. Maybe you were just unlucky with yours, or I was lucky!
I grew up on the Team Windows side, but in my elementary school they did have the 1998 Imac computers. I remember accidentally turning off the computer with the keyboard.
+piuser8 I'm using the 2003 Apple Keyboard (similar to the Pro, but slightly newer). I love the key feel as well as the increased F-key count. I also have the compact wireless keyboard that came with my iMac, but I can't stand typing on it, or any other keyboard without full key travel, so I use it as a remote for media playback, and occasional quick comments or searches from my bed.
The first one looks so artistically beautiful. I wish there's a modern keyboard that looks like that. Sadly, most are just all black and with RGB light at best.
I wonder if the light for num lock key on the Pro Keyboard worked in VirtualPC. I had one at the time but never bothered checking. You forgot to mention that the white keyboards onward had bluetooth and wired versions. I switched to the aluminum keyboards once I got a MacBook and enjoyed how good its keyboard felt. For mice I remain a Logitech fan though. I used a Magic Mouse for a significant period of time and found it bearable - but two buttons alone just doesn't cut it for me. I've never even considered trying the Magic Trackpads.
I found the aluminum keyboard on the side of the road with a missing keycap (probably why it was there, iirc it wasn’t a hugely important key) ordered a replacement keycap online and it works great, although I think the replacement keycap is yellowed a bit? Notice: there are two types of mechanisms in the aluminum keyboards (type H and type F), make sure you get the right one for yours by examining the shape.
3:44 "There are some 'KEY' differences..." Pun intended?
yes
You know it :p
@tpc buy ma soul bruh moment
Dumbass*
Dumbass
3:43* you mean
Rick Seiden 3:43
Yes, let's have a mouse history video!
+Alex Shannon Yeah, the hockey puck one although at first glance looks stupid, it is pretty and small.
Rihards Rožāns I actually have one of those.
Alex Shannon They seem pretty cool. Are they compatible with other PC's?
Rihards Rožāns It's a USB mouse, so I would presume so. I've never used it though.
Apple pro mouse is my favorite
I remember my boss having one of these all because he was a left-handed mouse user, and the mouse (and USB ports on both sides) was perfectly geared towards lefties, while most other PC hardware at the time didn't account for left-handed users.
strangly enough, I'm left handed but for some reason, the mouse always felt more comfortable on the right. maybe it's my muscle memory talking. just like I play guitar (badly...hehe) and drums right-handed vs. left-handed....again, probably has to do with muscle memory. I've tried left-handed configurations of things and, I don't know...it just feels "alien" to me.
@@twistedviewlabs Me too.
@@twistedviewlabs I'm right handed but use my mouse with my left hand. I'm the oppisite
😊😊l😊,😊
5:53 the first and only time the words "I like it" were ever spoken about the A1242 beyond earshot of Steve Jobs.
And that was the picky keyboard guy too. Smh
3:12 - Every PC gamer be like.
Alpha's Dank Shit q
Is this time backlit
Mouse history please... it always boggled my mind how long Apple took to finally accept that multiple buttons on a mouse do have their uses.
They STILL don't accept it.
THe Magic Mouse WAS NOT designed to be used like a typical, SANELY designed mouse. You just change a setting, and half the time it doesn't work.
And the Charging port in the most inconvenient place possible. Honestly whoever designed THAT part should be fired.
@@jeremydale4548 But the battery life is really long and where else would they put it?
Good idea I wanted a history for my collection
6:02 funny how this keyboard uses a "generic" symbol for the Start button key, which turned out to be the actual Windows 11 logo 10 (or more) years later :D
They predicted the future and were trying to be futureproof there :D
6:08 "it's just" *camera stops* "it's just"
it probs died an needed a recharge
Ripoff maker: And I took that personally
3:43 that pun though
lol ya
yeah I noticed it too
Oh the different keys
+The 8-Bit Guy good job on that pun
lol I noticed that
3:14 My school still has some of those in the lecture type of room. Unfortunately, they've all faded to yellow at this point.
ngl they look like those clicky mech keyboards i wouldnt mind getting one even if its not mechanical
5:05
f19, but no print screen? that sucks
They should have replaced the CAPS LOCK key with two different keys: F20 and Print Screen then. 19 is such an odd number
you can set f19 to anything
screenshot is done using command shift 3 on mac, so they didn’t need one
Macs never had a print screen function.
@@0x8badf00d I bet the Fn keys go up to 19 for no other reason than symmetry. Jobs was weird like that.
Could you maybe do the Mouse evolution video? :D I'd love to see that!! ^^
there is some video's that will talk about the video you want
Dylan de
Yeaah, but not from The 8-bit Guy / The iBook Guy. :( And his video's are so awesome
Dylan de Jonge really??????
I hate people with anime profile pics
Fun fact: The plural for a computer mouse is "mouses".
+Larry Bundy Jr first time I came to this channel. I didn't expect to see you here. :D
BadAtCSGO
I am everywhere!
+Larry Bundy Jr I see you everywhere. Are you an wizard?
Gentleman
I'm actually a warlock, but close enough!
+Larry Bundy Jr destiny? I play too
My dad has the 2003 edition. And my dads STILL looks BRAND new. No yellow, no scratches.
Cos he coated it in white paint and has used it once in his life for one second
Jk
I still have the og iMac one in good condition. Beat that
@@2verysnowyyy be worth quite a bit in 30 years
@@stringstaffan4 hahahahahhahah whos gonna save trashpple junkfor that long l0l
Same. I have six (three wired, three wireless), only two have slight yellowing, one is nearly mint, and I still use it every other week.
"The keys are a little mushy" THATS CALLED A MEMBRANE KEYBOARD!!!
"And quit rubbing that plastic bar of soap on the desk!"
It's okay, New Paper. That's just the Cheat. He uses *new* computers.
I don't know how we're gonna print it out, seeing as how someone /sliced off the back of your monitor/.
New intro is boss.
Hi
Why you on the old channel?
Ah I just re-subscribed 1.5 years later ;)
Woo hoo
Great piece of nostalgia here. I love the aluminum keyboard (typing on it at the moment), but thankfully I never experienced any catastrophic events with it. But, I agree, it is too expensive to replace on a whim. Hopefully Apple will come out with a TouchBar standalone keyboard before mine bites the dust :P .
I would love to hear your opinions on Apple mice, especially with the new Magic Mouse 2, and even the Magic Trackpads in the mix!
Thank you again for your enjoyable content!!!
These videos took me back! My first experience was playing Oregon Trail on an APPLE II in elementary school (I never made it all the way. Sally ALWAYS got dysentery!), and then playing Lemmings on a Macintosh Performa 550 in Middle/High School. I LOVED their startup chime and was fascinated with the power button on the keyboard. The ones at our school used CD caddies instead of a slide out tray. It seemed so futuristic. LOL! Personally, I always used Windows computers, but coveted Apple’s hardware and software, especially when the iMac G3’s came out. Pre OS X systems were so fun to me compared to Windows (For Workgroups!) 3.11. I got some of the “Apple-ish” satisfaction once Windows 95 came out. Fast forward a few years and the first time I saw my friend with a 12 inch PowerBook G4, I decided the time had come to make the switch. I went to CompUSA and bought an iMac G5 and have been an fanboy ever since! I have a closet that serves as an Apple graveyard for all my retired products, save for the few machines I’ve given to friends/family.
'is this backlit?' bruh this is an keyboard out of 2000
hax4dayz a keyboard**
hax4dayz I don’t get it
@@eboone there were no phones in 2000 which this person didn't get the (maybe unintentional) joke
Regan DeWine no
27jr Auto Phones didn’t have full keyboards until 2007.
"there are some key differences, like these 2 usb ports" ah i see what you did there - Key differences
Bah dumbth sss
i love the feel of a good old mechanical keyboard. something about the sounds of the keys and the force it takes make me feel much more productive and i hit the wrong keys less
We had the first keyboard (and a bunch of blueberry iMacs) in one of my classes in middle school. We used them with some cataloging software for minerals (it was a physical science class).
Suffice to say that was my favorite class. Thanks Mr. Klug!
"They're too expensive, and they break too easy!" -The story of Apple products.
I read that as soon as I heard it
+Profound Thoughts
And the older ones look like Fisher Price childrens' toys, and their operating systems are "obsolete" after a couple of years, and you have to be at least metrosexual in order to purchase one.
I have to disagree. My apple laptops are the most robust technology I own.
Mhm.
ProfoundThoughts Apple does have good computers but they're more for office work, not widely popular for gaming and stuff. However the ipod, iphone, iwhatever. Not amazing but a good idea. They break easy.
There are some "key" differences
That pun tho
Where's the Extended Keyboard II? that was the best Apple Keyboard ever!!
Cheers
I used one with a 90 Mhz PPC Mac in 1995-96 working at Corel. Such a perfect feel, sigh.
I was just randomly thinking about Apple's keyboards and boom! There's a video on it! Thanks!
You missed the best one: Apple Extended II
Lol I was also wondering where it was going to pop up! I used the special connector to hook it up to my computer
The Extended II is the best keyboard I've ever used. Amazing.
I Still Use That's Keyboard With My New PC LOL XD
I just got two AEKIIs (one for spares). Intending to use it with this new ADB-USB adapter: www.bigmessowires.com/usb-wombat/
Supposedly works better with ISO layouts (non-US) than the old Griffin iMate.
What's Special About The Extended II
7:20 basically every apple product
I mean 7:07
"The Num Lock doesn't do anything, only if it's connected to a Windows PC"
Apple : *Am I a joke to you?*
It's interesting to see how polarising the newest aluminium keyboard is - I've used it on my desktop for the past 10 years, and I just love it; I find it to be very elegant and light and it makes typing easy and ergonomic. That being said, I do get that many people who are used to more conventional types of keyboards might find it unusable.
Must make apple mice video!!!
Yes
Panther Only because of the reactions that the Hockey Puck mouse is going to get.... especially if you hook it up to a computer and make the users try to use it!
I have no idea why, but I find your videos relaxing and entertaining. Too bad you aren't that active.
I agree. Plus I like your profile picture! A Core from Portal! :3 ((dang, I really gotta get back to that 0_0
core corruption at 50%
"So you can see that the official Apple version costs at least 2-3 times more than these pieces of junk, and you can kinda see there's a pretty good reason for that"
Well yes but actually no
@@geeksomeguy Yesn't. That is very often true, but there are and were quite a frew Products of the world that cost much and performe garbage and the other way around.
In the Case of this Keyboard - IDK. It completely depends on what Apple is (was?) charging for that sucker. Might be a decent Keyboard, but if they charge Galore like Apple likes to do, not worth the money at all.
@@sagichdirdochnicht4653 It’s probably because of the aluminum
@@pathetic_girl Aluminium ain't THAT expansive. Even for a single milled piece of Aluminium, price propably wouldn't exceed 50$, if it's a membrane keyboard. Lower cost of course, if it's made out of sheet Aluminium, that is actually insanely cheap (There is a reason, why we tin shit in Aluminium, it's cheap AF, yet sturdy enough)
This series was awesome thanks
I would buy the very first USB one, just so I could stare at the colorful back.
Me too.
OMG LOOK ON THE KEYBOARDS AT THE START OF THE VIDEO ON THE FRONT
I have one lol.
My school has the 2003 and 2007 keyboards!
Oh, and 2009, (I prefer the 2009)
me too
Gamer Deluxe The 2003 one for me. They lent me a PowerMac G5 to fix.
Mine has 2007 and 2016 MacBooks
+Michael Scruggs Same
Some of the 1243's had really short cables btw. Mine is so short I need an extension cable to use it in my mac pro tower under my desk or have to plug into a hub or monitor.
1:11 _PAUSE !_
Anyone know how to de-yellow those translucent cables on the keyboard and mouse?
Retrobright doesn't seem to have any effect (unless I wasn't using enough).
The first 2 keyboards use usb 1.1?
The fake keyboard has a windows logo....
BudderPuffle // Echo Gaming no shit laddie
Yes me too
Windows logo, Microsoft's logo is the word Microsoft the windows logo is a window its been that way since windows first came out
I really liked this video, when will you make a video on apple mice?
sooooo... mouse video?!?!?
Love your channel Dave! You are an amazing person :-)
I don't get how people can complain about not having enough travel on the keys, then say they like those modern Apple aluminum keyboards. They are CRAP. They are a testament to Apple's obsession with form over function and making everything thin for no reason. Give me a nice bog standard IBM-style keyboard any day.
+Jeremy Morton Exactly!!! I don't understand how can people use them! It just seems though as if consumers have reached to a point where if you give them utter shit but stick an apple logo to it they'd just celebrate it endlessly!
+Jeremy Morton agreed, hell- i'd say that moving away from mechanical keyboards was a mistake, honestly. rubber dome keys just don't type as well.
rubber dome is the best type of keyboard. The NEW mac ones are stupid, but the thin, low-travel rubber domes are the best
abab AAbb nah man, i'm in love with the mechanical keyboard. i think it feels way better to type on, personally.
I agree. I still buy mechanical keyboards with clicky switches and full form factors. I'm currently on a WASD brand CODE keyboard right now, and I know some people with IBM Model M keyboards that just have a bunch of adapters on them for USB compatibility.
You are partially right about the latest aluminium keyboard ... I got one as a BD gift from my wife. Later she spilled orange juice and this busted it. Apart of this case I had washed few aluminiums straight in a dishwasher. Just need to watt for some days to dry completely inside and the are just like brand new :)
Seriously? I thought they didn't like water.
@@gillespieffet8677 Water is the least of adversaries, due to the absence of sugar and what not. Obviously if there's no power hooked up (assuming and/or if all caps have been discharged prior to cleaning - say a board, motherboard, sound card etc.) Heck, there was even an episode where The 8-Bit Guy cleaned a board in his dishwasher, turned out better than ever.
For some reason I really like that faded yellow look that white keyboards turn into. I reminds me a lot of old keyboards as most of the white ones have faded by now.
Excellent, David! Thanks very much!
0:55 if it's real HOLO you can record it with flash on and it will show up much better!
0:39
im sure my MacBook has a power button on its keyboard
He’s talking about external keyboards Apple makes that you would plug/pair to your desktop Mac.
@@Minecraft101ToonLink
I know
If you like the styling of the black keyboard, and the typing feel of the older keyboard, you should look at Matias Keyboards, which combine the best aspects of both, using Alps switches. They even have an all white version specifically for Macs.
Thanks for posting these. Maybe I missed it, but apparently the Apple Extended Keyboard II was the last mechanical keyboard apple put out. It's in storage now, but I don't recall if mine is a II or just regular standard extended keyboard. I have another keyboard made by Alps, with a glide pad thing on it and 3 buttons. When I got my B/W G3 300mhz I was happy that it had an ADB port and that keyboard worked. I loved the keys on it and was great for doing long-form writing. Like letters or creative writing. However, one of the best is the Model M by IBM/Lexmark. With the USB to PS/2 adaptor, I use it every day for high-speed stuff for my job. I can bang away all day and not suffer pain in the joints of my hand and fingers. I'm considering getting a Unicomp Revamped Model M. The issue with the Alps, is even with one of the ADB to usb adaptor cubes I bought online (I wish I had a Griffin iMate) is that apparently there are no drivers for Mac OSX or anything PC, so I can't use it. I can use the Apple Extended keyboard though.
just went from elementary memories to high school in 2 videos.
I truly want a mouse video!!! MAKE IT HAPPEN :D
Man o yeah. I have a pro mouse for display in my room.
Mr I hate everything is back...and EVEN BETTER!
5 years later and we are still waiting for that mouse video! Please do a follow up! Like a 5 year anniversery or something!!
Where did you get that shirt???
jaykay18 - A website called Lemon64.
The iBookGuy I love that site :-) I'm thinking of getting an SD to floppy drive adapter for my C64 but not sure which one is the best, and curious if you know which is, or if you have ever used one?
Commodorefan64 I've never used one. I've thought about buying one. But I rarely turn my real C64 on. I almost always use an emulator.
The iBookGuy Honestly I'm the same way these days, but I've had the itch to get back to using the real hardware, but my 1541 has been acting up, and I thought an SD reader would be a better option. Thanks anyways.
***** hi i have a custim built gaming pc system
When the guy checked out the one with the first optical he was like is this backlit and i juat laughed my ass off 2000 backlit keyboard
Thanks for blowing the speakers out immediately in the intro...
with the keyboards with eject button for the CD/Super Drive, you could press the COMMAND-OPTION-CONTROL-EJECT and it will summon the shut-down or Sleep menu
Was 3:42 an intentional pun?
"Some KEY differences" When you're talking about keyboards
7:10 my grandma got one from like 2010 she spilled coffee on it one day whole thing was ruined she got a cheap knock off that feels terrible when you type on it irritates me so much!!!!!
Giant nostalgia for the third version, was my family computers keyboard for the first 10 years of my life
i loved that imac keyboard. my school had them, but only in the front row. so not everyone was able to use them, but once i was able to. those keyboards felt good as hell lol
3:36 I grew up on that keyboard
If it's mechanical, then you're a good man. I growing up with older mechanical keyboards even though I was born in 2007, it was an old computer
that would be really uncomfortable, maybe don't grow up on a keyboard?
@@highoctanegames mechanical all the way bro
@@devinrenshaw9083 oh yeah let's go
For some reason I love big bulky loud keyboards, I pick a keyboard because of its sound, is that just me?
5:30
"How do you type?"
Like any other keyboard ever. You use your fingers to make letters and words until your thought is complete.
Could you do evolution of Microsoft keyboards? Btw nice video
My middle school tech teacher gave me the first model Apple Pro Keyboard (M7803), and I still use it to this day. I need to clean some keys however, but otherwise, it's given me a good 7 years run, I hope it never dies...
Wasn't there one more that had like a cylinder in the back.
Two more that are newer than these keyboards.'I have the one you are talking about, with a cylinder for batteries in the back. The newest one, however, has a solid, thinner base with a chargeable battery.
It's the wireless keyboard. I use one in my dining room connected (thru BlueTooth) to a Mac Mini. I united this keyboard with a trackpad in single piece using a Magic Wand stick.
By watching this I realize that my school has been using Apple mouses from 2003
lol your school is old
+Sonia Mamser yeah since 1982
+IceyPaper for my school was build in the 30 '
+Ashton Cano Romero is it haunted
+IceyPaper don't know
Great job on the vid! Tip: All mac keyboards although compatible to all macs are not created equal. Some functions may be missing from one to the other. I spent hours trying to figure out the reason why Command F2 did not enable dual screen activation. I wasn't using my newer bluetooth mac keyboard, but an older usb one. As soon as I connected the bluetooth keyboard it worked! However, I wonder if their are alternate keys you can use for the same thing. I searched for some and couldn't find any. Also, the option to do the set up doesn't show up in sys.prefs if you use the older one. Just trying to save someone else the time and money if they pick up a cheap keyboard to try this.
I'd say to do a continuation of this since they keyboard and mouse has evolved slightly. the last aluminum keyboard you featured (the tiny one) is called the magic keyboard since it's bluetooth and automatically pairs when switched on. it also charges and can be used as a wired keyboard while it's charging. annoyingly though (to me), it's too small and light & very hard to type on...just like a laptop keyboard (which I've never been a fan of). the current magic mouse has no visible buttons or scroll whell. in place of the scroll wheel, you swipe up and down...you can also swipe side to side to move between applications which is pretty cool. it's also bluetooth and rechargeable BUT with where you plug in the lightning cable, it's impossible to use while charging. the cool thing about both the magic keyboard and magic mouse is that you can use any standard lightning cable connected to a USB power brick to charge them instead of using ports on your iMac or Mac Mini.
Also, if you're able to, you should do an evolution of Apple computers from the start up to 2021. I've personally owned an Apple IIc (with the included green screen monitor) and have used mac clones and Power Macs throughout the years. My current job supplied me with a 2019 iMac which has come a LONG way from when those were introduced in 1998. Interesting sidenote, I actually worked at the tech convention in 1998 where Apple unveiled the iMac at Moscone Center in San Francisco. I was impressed but, at the time, didn't like the all-in-one bit since I could imagine they were a nightmare to repair/upgrade. However, using the current iMac, I've definitely changed my opinion since they're definitely very easy to upgrade things like the internal SSD and RAM. As far as Apple laptops, Apple has always been ahead of the curve with making something high performance yet VERY portable. I mean, how cool is it that you can have a powerful machine to do audio/video production that doesn't take up much real estate on your desk? Anyhow, I've loved watching your videos over the years and like seeing older machines that I used growing up as well. My first computer was the TI99/4A with the voice modulator and cassette storage as add-ons in 1983...I was all of 8 and I'm sure it cost a small fortune back then. Lastly, getting back to the Apple keyboard saga...wasn't there an Apple keyboard that had the usual Apple key (outline of the Apple logo) and a solid Apple key? I could swear I've seen that before.
You wake up some mornings, a d you never know what you'll be doing in the evening.
This guy is amazing lol.
conclusion: apple can't make a perfect keyboard...
or even a decent one.
those aluminum ones are pretty dank
conclusion: video about apple = butthurt everywhere
Stop getting triggered, ginger.
*skyartlerist* *D* your getting triggered cuz you don’t even know what the word trigger mean
The old apple keycaps font is so neat and appealing. Just found out a lot of modern mechanical keycaps copy this typeface like the KBDfans and some Magicforce keycaps
I know this is an old video but one thing I've allways been curious about is, since some of theese Apple keyboards use USB, would they work on a Windows PC? I've tried it the other way round, using a regular PC USB keyboard on a Mac and that worked, so I assume the opposite would also work but I could be wrong.
"Is this backlit?" .. I fell off my chair..lmfao..
0:17 That looks like a child's computer XD
@@studiopapa5874 No it is not.
@@antihumor2231 it is
@@elangarya.s.n122 no its not
Devin Renshaw it is
It is
We had four of those first usb keyboard computers to trade off use in our computer class in middle school. It was my favorite one to use as far as mac goes.
Sad about no mention of the Apple Extended Keyboard lines, especially the Extended II. Still have one and use it daily.
Are we going to end the keyboard videos soon? I'm getting quite bored with the keyboard videos.
eastmountainfilms - Yep, that was the last one for a while.. already working on some new stuff.
Actually I rather enjoyed these.
***** The videos were great, but I do agree with ***** they were getting a little boring after some time. Great job though.
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The iBookGuy i concur i enjoyed this video being that i was born late 90's seeing this stuff just makes me wanna travel back and use this to get the true feeling of what they evolved to, and i rather prefer the older macs and things for there originality and choice of personal color and appearance. i have an old neighbor around 40 really awesome old underground hacker/tech guy back when hacking was something to be proud of, hes got some of the old mac hardware and these were beautiful machines which i would of loved to own. sadly there rendered obsolete to today's standards there still works of art that generally performed great for there time.
If you make the mouse history vid I will watch it. However, it's not necessary. We all know Apple mice [mouses?] are abominations to ergonomics that should be in a museum.
Agreed so many one button mice, when even the early iMacs with a USB port could use a normal PC mouse that had more buttons, and the OS made use of them all LOL!
2023 and I still use my 2007 aluminium keyboard (that came with my2007 iMac) with my M1 MacBook Pro. Works great still (though I did break another of these keyboards at my workplace, by spilling tea on it 😕). Agree about the old original iMac USB ones. Absolutely beautiful things. The white clear ones that came along later were terrible, not just for yellowing, but for accumulating dirt inside. They looked like a health hazard after year or two of use 😅
the A1048 is my fav :) I had a whole cup of coffee spilled into my current one... it stopped working for a couple of months then I tried it out to se how many keys would work and they all do.. working perfectly again!!
And the so called biggest failure of Apple, the butterfly keyboard
"It looks very similar to the last, but there are some key differences"
I use the A1243 just about everyday at work. Still one of my favorites.
I love this video it brings me joy watching this
Actually, I disagree on your last point on the Aluminium keyboard. I would go as far to say that it is far more versatile in my opinion compared to prior versions. A lot of stuff has got under the keys on and drinks have been spilled on mine, yet it functions just as it did when I got it several years ago. I even clean it just through washing it in the sink, directly under water-- no problems. On the other hand, I've broken two of the older plastic style keyboards through water damage. Maybe you were just unlucky with yours, or I was lucky!
is this back-lit? lol
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I grew up on the Team Windows side, but in my elementary school they did have the 1998 Imac computers. I remember accidentally turning off the computer with the keyboard.
Ahhhh, the 2007 keyboard was used in my science classes on the 2008 Macs we had, along with the white version of the black mouse in the video.
3:39 i actually still have that keyboard
Im using the Apple Pro Keyboard!
+piuser8 me too xD
+piuser8 I'm using the 2003 Apple Keyboard (similar to the Pro, but slightly newer). I love the key feel as well as the increased F-key count.
I also have the compact wireless keyboard that came with my iMac, but I can't stand typing on it, or any other keyboard without full key travel, so I use it as a remote for media playback, and occasional quick comments or searches from my bed.
I'm using the 2000 apple keyboard :)
+piuser8 We need more people like u
are you using it on a mac or a pc
I'm on an iPad peasants
The first one looks so artistically beautiful. I wish there's a modern keyboard that looks like that. Sadly, most are just all black and with RGB light at best.
I wonder if the light for num lock key on the Pro Keyboard worked in VirtualPC. I had one at the time but never bothered checking.
You forgot to mention that the white keyboards onward had bluetooth and wired versions.
I switched to the aluminum keyboards once I got a MacBook and enjoyed how good its keyboard felt. For mice I remain a Logitech fan though. I used a Magic Mouse for a significant period of time and found it bearable - but two buttons alone just doesn't cut it for me.
I've never even considered trying the Magic Trackpads.
here you go
1:31
1:41
3:09
4:09
4:26 I was to lazy to get all the clips
Where is the mouse history?
I found the aluminum keyboard on the side of the road with a missing keycap (probably why it was there, iirc it wasn’t a hugely important key) ordered a replacement keycap online and it works great, although I think the replacement keycap is yellowed a bit? Notice: there are two types of mechanisms in the aluminum keyboards (type H and type F), make sure you get the right one for yours by examining the shape.
would love to see a vid made now about the rest of the apple keyboards that have come out