I can't explain why, but it's just really charming how the video is edited when Brandon is explaining things and it cuts to 8-Bit Guy nodding with a big, awesome smile.
Right?! While it completely breaks all of the rules for framing a shot reverse shot, seeing the 8-Bit Guy's smile made it all worth it! I seriously have to watch his videos whenever they come out...even if I have to wake up in like 4 hours for work haha
I love my first digital camera. Imagine taking unlimited pictures without having to pay for film and cost of developing rolls of film. It was nothing short of revolutionary. In fact, I have more pictures taken with my first digital camera than all the digital cameras afterwards combined. In short, I went nuts with my first digital camera, using it so much that the camera fell apart. I had a lot of free time as a teenager.
LuiC I'm guessing that it's to cover up a few edits so it doesn't make for jumpcuts... but nowadays with videobloggers having jumpcuts in their accepted rulebook, the random shots of a silent participant really jolts us as viewers out of the explanation far more than a jumpcut would. And considering that traditionally a production like this would only have one camera so any reaction cuts of a interviewer would have to be recorded after the subject has said all of their answers. I just find the thought funny to imagine him setting up the camera and lights to do a few nods and stuff afterwards. Another option would have been simple cutaways to the cameras in question or whatever b-roll would be shot at that situation. all in all... I commend the effort. But the choice of cutaway became a bit distracting.
My Mavica saved our family trip to Europe. I took three film cameras and a Mavica. At some point our film got x-rayed and only one roll was not destroyed. But the Mavica pictures survived.
I took a film camera and a digital camera on a mission tip once. I had the film hand checked to avoid that problem. Only to have it lost on one of the last days there.
Back in 2000, I had one of those 0.5MP cameras from China where if you bumped the camera too much, the AA batteries would jar, and you would lose all your photos. I guess because the memory chip didn't have a battery backup haha
I remember buying a computer with a SuperDisk drive and the salesman kept talking about the USB drives the computer had being the future, but I was stuck on 128mb floppies thinking that was the selling point. Important life lesson I guess lol.
Haha, I was a teenager saving up for those 120MB floppy drives , then when I had the money together they had already disappeared. I don't quite understand why though , the USB flash drives really weren't very competitive then, and a 120MB floppy drive would have been a logical upgrade path.
@@limemyth While yes it became popular with 2.0, it was still objectively inferior to firewire until 3.0. The main downfall of firewire was that Intel simply dominated the computer field and through their weight behind usb. It's not that USB is bad, and I'm glad we finally have a standard. But firewire was just better in literally ever way, but thanks to Intel's business practices we simply got "good enough" with usb
The windows 98 compaq I grew up with had USB, but you're right I don't remember using them for a few years. And then it was only for a gravis gamepad pro.
June 2021: I still have my Mavica FD-7, some 3.5" floppy discs and an external 3.5" floppy drive. The Mavica took some real good quality pics at a pro wrestling (ECW) event I went to at a local college.
As much as I love digital and how far it's come in terms of quality, I still love film. The look, the whole darkroom experience...it's magical! I went out of my way to even buy a Krasnogorsk 16mm movie camera to try my hand at motion film. Love it.
We had one of those cameras at work in ~ 2001 and I used it a fair amount. The optics and image quality were really good. I wished it had a write buffer so you could keep taking pictures without waiting each time for the file to be written to the disk.
480p was maximum resolution. It would make it where a disk only held about three photographs. The lower resolutions were grainy and ugly but a disk could hold more pictures.
11:35 - That was the first digital camera I ever got to play with. My mother would bring it home from work all the time. I can remember making 20 seconds videos on it and being amazed :-)
The Obsolete Geek people still this camera. During the 1990s ebay and internet antique dealers and vintage sellers bought these and made a good living with their new venture online. some of the older people 50s 60s yo still use this camera for work because they have a don't change what works mentality.
Just picked up an old Mavica FD-90 at an estate sale for $15 (he totally nailed the price lol), I can't get over just how fun it is to take photos with. The feeling of taking a photo and instantly feeling the disk spin up and write is just superb, and the images have a dated yet perfectly acceptable quality to them, especially when it comes to color depth. Couldn't be happier with it!
Aaaah yeah! And those extremely low-res webcam videos! I also remember that videos back in 2006 and 2007 were in mono, stereo was not introduced until 2008 or something like that.
9:20 those buttons on those old pay phones are supreme. Just the feel of them are so awesome, I always wanted to press on them as a kid, even tho I had no one to call. 10:06 this is probably going to be a new art. Using first ever camera created to take pictures of quantum computer installations, latest gen spaceships, and sending the footage through a sophisticated process of aging... lol.
Pay phones NO longer even exist and are no longer even used,all those that would exist outside in Public will not even work even if a person tried nowadays as the cable running to it is as you are aware is disconnected entirely and anyway they no longer exist as everyone these days has a Smartphone and uses that for calls,texts,social media etc
Great video, I still have my Mavica FD95, with Sony add on wide angle lens and filters, extra batteries and the original box it came in. Having a real lens really allows this camera to take some fantastic pictures .
I have an old Canon camera which uses CF cards and it also creates a DCIM folder too. Funny thing, the Nintendo DSi and the Nintendo 3DS also create a DCIM folder when taking photos
most devices that captures media will use DCIM folder since its a universal generic root name for computers to read and recognise from it ( dunno about iphones since apple are backwards )
was lucky to get one for free (FD92) ebay battery $20 , i am happy with it, a great trip down memory lane. what i would have been able to capture during that time it came out (2001)
Haha my husband had one of these when I first met him. I screwed around with it for a while. The resolution was okay...certainly better than my own first digital camera. I think he used it to take pics of his artwork.
I love the fact that you provided a professional's experience with this piece of technology for the video. It really helps give a well-rounded sense of how the hardware was used.
I can't believe I found this video! I was a self employed web designer/developer back in 97 - 01. The biggest PITA was digitizing analog pics. The Mavica changed my world, I loved that thing! Most reactions were like: "What........is.........THAT!?" As good as it was, the Olympus Camedia C550 made digital cameras go mainstream. I still have my Camedia and I'm telling you it takes better pictures than many modern digital units. The way it captures light is just other worldly. When I want to take some serious photography, I still pull out the C550 all these years later.
When I was a senior in high school in '99, I went to a vocational school for computer classes, they had much larger budgets for it than my school (although my school had one of the first AutoCAD classes ever). They had the Mavica and my teacher even let me borrow it for a project, I took pics of EVERYTHING with that camera, still have a few that haven't been destroyed, but man we were so elated at the technology at the time :D
2:26 IRQ conflicts-- oh gawd, I need a trigger warning before you mention that, it brings up traumatic memories. What a nightmare it was dealing with that crap.
This is the first digital camera I had. And I remember taking it to a an auto show, people were stopping me thinking it was the coolest thing. I still have it, and it still works.
11:04 thats weird that he filmed himself smiling and nodding when the guys was taliking to the camera, and if the guy was still talking when he was nodding and smiling, the camera would have been right were the guy was standing lol
A disk/cd case full of them when doing computer repair LOL. Now you can fit all that stuff on a USB flash drive that easily fits in your pocket. My how times have changed.
Yes to a point. 640x480 just isn`t up to modern standards at all. Heck, I can get 3000x2000 out of scanned 35mm film. Digital cameras back then were awful as the sensors and lens were just not up to the task at all. 35mm blew it out of the water in quality.
untseac When I was making home videos for DVD, I shot all the stills to be used in my "movies" in 640x480 because that was close to the destination display (Standard definition CRT TV set.) For that it was fine. (I still use it when I need a Pre HDTV look).
Pretty cool, I distinctly remember my teacher back in 2001 having a camera using 3.5" floppies that looked distinctly like the Mavica as it was used for some class photos and field trips.
I've found most smart phone cameras well...suck. Course its supposed to be a phone not a professional studio camera in the first place LOL. My $150 Canon Powershot A510 takes far better photos than any cell phone camera I've had...cell phone camera is great for an emergency but if you are taking pictures to use professionally you should be using a professional camera LOL.
Hahaha There’s actually some truth to this. The picture quality in less than perfect conditions (low light, moving subjects, etc) requires a larger sensor and a bigger lens to excel. It is literally a constraint of how much light your camera can collect in time. Phone cameras have tiny sensors and tiny lenses and will produce shit low light shots no matter how advanced the technology gets. An old DSLR camera or even dedicated point and shoot will outperform the tiny phone camera in less than perfect light conditions.
I hope he didn't have a 2nd camera, so all those reaction shots were shot separate. XD I appreciate the effort though, this channel keeps getting better and better!
Digital is only now rivaling film for resolution. I still take pictures of lots of things using film, I just don't take 5-20 of each shot, I compose, and take it right the first time.
asherael the problem was always the Pros, as soon as they move on to better tech the masses never get access to their previous pro tech as the companies making their tech never bothered to target the masses. Even in 2019 the masses are using 10 year tech for video and DSLR's. It is getting better but we still have a long way to go. Look at the Pro DV cameras with DVC pro in the mid 2000's they never reached the masses. DV cameras from 2001 still outperform any video consumer camera in 2019 hands down.
@@danfuerthgillis4483 I'm not sure if you're exaggerating or not. Panasonic G85 and Sony a6300 are pretty amazing cameras with astounding 1080p and great 4K. How are 2019 consumer cameras lacking?
@@blossom.ch4 I have the Canon D60 for pictures mainly. My JVC DV Camera from 2001 has Zero and I mean Zero grain when shooting a concert in low light (only stage lights) it leaves the Canon D60, GH4 , Nikon's in the dust. The problem is the 2000 DV cameras had much bigger sensors so they had barely any grain even in low light condition. It is completely unacceptable that my $50 JVC DV Camera camera from 2001 rivals a Canon c100 in terms of low light performance and grain. Also the day shots at 720x480 ( DV res) absolutely annihilates even a Canon Mark 3 lol. No offence buy a 2005 DVC Pro camera even at 1440 resolution that destroys any 10,000 semi pro consumer video camera. Ask yourself this question why are you buying a digital camera that has locked frame rates? Professional Industrial cameras do not have these locked frame rates they shoot any frame rate from 1 fps to the max of the hardware. Also the lack of lenses support is a joke as you are forced to fuck around with DSLR's just to have lenses support lol.
Danfuerth Gillis none of what you say is actually true. 🤯 DV cameras had small sensors between 1/2" and 1/6". On top of that they were CCDs which were notoriously bad in low light. Modern CMOS sensors are vastly superior in every respect. I don’t know why you set your old Canon DSLR as the benchmark but modern digital cameras (like the GH4 you mentioned) are leagues ahead in image quality in terms of resolution, low-light performance and dynamic range. Your bit about frame rates is absolutely nonsensical as well: modern cameras usually support all the mainstream frame rates like 24, 25, 30, 50 and 60. Why would you want to record in a non-standard frame rate that couldn’t even be played back correctly on a monitor that only supports a limited number of frame rates as well? There’s absolutely no reason to do that. Instead, you choose a standard frame rate and adjust the shutter speed you want to use at that frame rate.
Really glad you did a video on the Mavica, my first experience of using digital cameras. My grandad (grandfather - I'm from the UK) had one of these, it was a more advanced model than this as it could take 1.3 megapixel images and video (didn't last long on a floppy disk but you could do short clips). I remember going into an electronics store at the time and the big selling point they mentioned was that you didn't have to buy expensive memory cards whereas floppy disks where affordable and readily used. At the time, they performed really well but were typically more expensive than memory card cameras in the UK.
My main AIM teacher back in late 4th to 5th grade(2009 to 2010) had a floppy disk camera that she had us use for multiple projects & would use the camera to photograph events. It had incredible image quality & could take quite amount of photos. Still impressive for a digital camera that stores to floppy disk.
It's a fairly good demonstration of how our mental images of those time periods, even having lived through them, are heavily influenced by the media recorded of them that you can view today. I can remember being a very young child thinking that color only existed after 1950 because of all the black and white pictures my grandparents showed me. I recently unearthed my collection of film negatives for pictures I took in the late 90's / early 00's with my first camera (I didn't get a digital camera until ~2006). I paid to have them scanned in and wow, they look so different than the pictures of the period I see the most (mostly from my dad's first DSLR post 2002).
The Mavica was AWESOME! Back in the 90s. I worked in a test lab and I convinced the boss to buy one. It was really great for making test reports with pictures of our setups.
Back before MP3s I used to, for no particular reason, record songs to floppy disk. Since there was no compression, I used to have to record at a low sampling rate to fit a song on a disk. So, the audio quality was poor. Also, the song would skip every time the disk changed tracks. But it was fun anyway.
lolll the video taken by the Mavica FD85 remind me of those Sega-CD ''Full Motion Video'' games :D Now that I'm thinking about it ... I wonder what kind of camera they used to shot these ''Video games'' and how they digitized the footage, back in 1992ish.
I remember buying those Compaqs at a company I was at back in the day. With some additional accessories and the upgraded 8 Megabyte memory, the cost was around $5,000.
Tommy Whitaker No it should not. Digital images are soulless, plain representations of the real world without any appeal of ever being looked at again. Opposing that analog images DO have soul, they are timeless and will more likely be looked at again. Ask almost any wedding or portrait photographer they will tell you just that.
Tommy Whitaker Well ok, but of what use is that? Nobody will live long enough to make use of those longer lasting digital images. It's only of use for future generations because they can access our images more easily.
Stop with the poetic bullshit! Photos have souls? That is just meaningless pretentious gibberish. Im pretty sure people in the late 1800s would say that paintings "have soul" as opposed to those technical artificial machine-made photographs. Some people think that being stuck in the past is wise and everytime a new technology replaces the old one, these people complain like little kids about "souls" and similar crap, but their emotional arguments never stand the test of time.
Did you just say film doesn't last long? You know what a negative is? They can last for hundreds of years with proper care. But oh, you probably also believe an 800x600 image is better than film quality. Film is and always will be better than digital, digital just offers more convenience. If digital was better why are most movies still shot on 35mm? Because, short and simple, film looks better.
120/220 film in a 6x9 camera 56x84mm 8 shots per 120 roll, 16 per 220 roll Most popular film format in the 1950s and 1960s 6x9 @ 4000DPI (56x84mm) 13228.346456692913385826771653543 8818.8976377952755905511811023622 116.66 megapixels The 120 format film is cheaper than the 35mm film ($5 per roll vs $7) I think I know why 120 film is still around while 35mm is about to go extinct - digital cameras have surpassed the resolution of 35mm, but they still have a long way to go before surpassing 120 format film.
The main reason Digital has surpassed film is the immediacy of being able to view what you have shot, to delete what you don't like, take the shot over as many times as you have storage for, and the ability to either replace your memory card with another without the risk of ruining your photos by exposing your card to light, and the ability to quickly transfer your photos to a computer to, back up photos, to quickly send them to someone via email, online storage, etc, and the ability to wipe a memory card for reuse. By not only backing up or transferring your images to a laptop or other device with a lot of storage, and backing them up on one or more external drives; you can also make sure you don't loose your photos if your luggage gets stolen or lost, not to mention how much cheaper it is to shoot on digital rather then having to pay for film development even if you do it yourself. The power of in immediacy can also be seen in the resurgence of Instamatic film cameras, such as those by, Fuji, Kodak, and other companies. So, for most people Digital is better. If you are talking taking professional photos, that is a different story, some photographers do only digital, while others use only film, and still others use both.
I had a portable parallel zip drive back in the late 90's mainly because it was cheaper then the LS-120 for both the drives, and media, plus the overall software drivers where better on Windows 98, but then again even with 200MB, zip disc and 1GB Jazz drives none of it lasted much longer once CD Burners became common place shortly afterwards.
It's funny that David said that no one ever tried to make the floppy drive faster... but the LS-120 drives read standard floppy disks a lot faster than a standard floppy drive. The original drives were super flaky though, and read 1.44's poorly. I still have dozens of superdisks in a box somewhere....
Diggnuts True that, and I remember the commericals somewhat making that a selling point, but like i said price was a big factor for the ZIP drive, and should have also mentioned some computers even came preinstalled with internal 100MB zip drive by default like some Gateway, and Compaq models if I remember correctly.
Commodorefan64 Compaq backed both horses in the media race, they also preinstalled LS120 drives in some of their machines. I owned both Zip and LS120 back in the late 90's but by far preferred the LS120. I actually still use a LS120 today to read/write floppy disks in my modern PC.
Woah woah woah, wait. Y'all city folk actually got public charging stations for them electric thingamajig cars of yours? That was the most interesting thing fer me in this video!
Fox Wright Lol, wow, it was a joke dude. I commerce to my nearest city for work every day. Although we're up in Northern Michigan where almost no one has electric cars, so our city doesn't have charging stations installed for them. I actually didn't realize they had those yet in other cities, because, like I said, just about NO ONE in my local area owns or drives them. Seriously, it was a joke, get over yourself. I can't believe you felt it necessary to take time out of your day to insult some random poster on the internet.
I remember these very well. I used the Mavica a few times myself at work. I still have work photos saved on my computer from '98-'99 using that camera at job sites.
People often don't realize that the optics matter more than the megapixels. Those cameras had low resolution a but great lenses to ensure the few pixels you had were all unique and in focus. Also non finalized disks can be read by any cd writer drive. Only non writing drives needed finalized CDs.
So far ahead of its time, so memory comes back from my 4th or 5th grade elementary computer class, we used these! Was awesome! We were working on publisher or word if i remember right. So cool though. Looking back as a photographer now and using a sony a7ii and canon 5d mark ii both full frame. It’s just so neat! Thanks for sharing and giving so much info on it.
Yes i noticed that too, and the Prophet. :D But why are the monitors so close to the wall? In a corner even! I've always been told that this is a very bad idea....
Those monitors aren't even plugged in. That's not my "studio", it's a storage room in my furniture store for "overflow" synths. I have all 4 analog Roland Jupiter synths, but they're all at home, so there's no Jupiter in 8 Bit's video. You can hear my Jupiter synths on my channel.
Wow, my dad had one of those and still used it well into the late 2000's. I always thought it was so weird but oddly convenient, especially in a country where you could still see floppy discs being used in 2010.
I remember my cousin had a Sony Mavica and I thought it was just awesome. He would upload the pictures onto a Geocities or Angel Fire website and that started my love for HTML and website design/PC tech. My dad ended up buying one for his eBay store.... about $800 at Best Buy... or maybe it was Circuit City...
Whaaaat??? The claim that the 1.3MP camera quality surpassed film is quite crazy. I shoot both film and digital these days. My 35mm film pictures with cameras from the 1970's, take as good pictures as my 20MP Canon 70D with super sharp lenses like the 50mm 1.4. (If properly scanned). My medium format (6x7) pictures (Mamiya RZ67) take way better pictures, I get scans of 60MP with amazing details (even better if with drum scanner in a lab). Is it as convenient to use as a digital camera? Not really, but image quality wise digital is only now catching up with film (unless we are talking about medium & large format film). For normal consumer use, digital quality became "good enough" long time ago for most people. But 1.3MP was not really the point it happened IMHO.
My father had a Sony digital camera that took floppy disks and I remember even back then we thought the images looked bad. His printed images from the 70-90's look amazing in comparison. Modern digital cameras take really nice pictures, even phone cameras, and the use of film (from a practical POW) is gone for most consumers and prof. photographers. But I have to say that whenever I go back home, we gather around old photo albums and look at old pictures. But we never look at slide shows of digital images. Any memory since we started shooting digital, is never revisited. I think it's really sad that people never print images anymore and digital photography caused this shift. Since realizing this, I've started to print a lot more (both my digital images and film images, sometimes in the darkroom).
I can't explain why, but it's just really charming how the video is edited when Brandon is explaining things and it cuts to 8-Bit Guy nodding with a big, awesome smile.
Right?! While it completely breaks all of the rules for framing a shot reverse shot, seeing the 8-Bit Guy's smile made it all worth it! I seriously have to watch his videos whenever they come out...even if I have to wake up in like 4 hours for work haha
never knew that you watch 8-bit guy.
i would use word awkward for that
I thought it was unneccessary but whatever, I'll still keep watching!!
As a film student I cringed, but as a fan of 8-Bit Guy I had to giggle. Great guy, great content
Don't bother saying you're first.. because I'M FIRST!
The 8-Bit Guy Second
Hehe
The 8-Bit Guy 3rd 😂
The 8-Bit Guy fourth! Nice video
You got me!
I love my first digital camera. Imagine taking unlimited pictures without having to pay for film and cost of developing rolls of film. It was nothing short of revolutionary. In fact, I have more pictures taken with my first digital camera than all the digital cameras afterwards combined. In short, I went nuts with my first digital camera, using it so much that the camera fell apart. I had a lot of free time as a teenager.
It cracks me up when he does the cutaways to himself, as if he's having the conversation with the dude in realtime, lol. Nice ;P
I know right 10:38 :'D
@@respt46 it's not cutaways at all the looks he makes ARE REAL
So cringey
I love the footage of 8 Bit Guy randomly smiling and nodding.
LuiC "8-Bit Guy (ODDLY SATISFYING COMPILATION)"
Feels so out of place! xD
LuiC When your trying act like it's a interview with multiple cameras
yesss xD
LuiC
I'm guessing that it's to cover up a few edits so it doesn't make for jumpcuts... but nowadays with videobloggers having jumpcuts in their accepted rulebook, the random shots of a silent participant really jolts us as viewers out of the explanation far more than a jumpcut would.
And considering that traditionally a production like this would only have one camera so any reaction cuts of a interviewer would have to be recorded after the subject has said all of their answers. I just find the thought funny to imagine him setting up the camera and lights to do a few nods and stuff afterwards.
Another option would have been simple cutaways to the cameras in question or whatever b-roll would be shot at that situation.
all in all... I commend the effort. But the choice of cutaway became a bit distracting.
My Mavica saved our family trip to Europe. I took three film cameras and a Mavica. At some point our film got x-rayed and only one roll was not destroyed. But the Mavica pictures survived.
I took a film camera and a digital camera on a mission tip once. I had the film hand checked to avoid that problem. Only to have it lost on one of the last days there.
@@KiwiClawDHAs’what you get for goin on a mission trip
@@EclipseAtDusk whats wrong with that?
the strange thing.. when you use a camera from the 90s it actually looks like your in the 90s.
yeah only need to use 90ies clothes and wayfarer sunglasses, set the date on the device in the 90ies and you can roleplay someone in the 90ies :D
😀 haha
I thought the same!!; the colors were "90s colors" not "today colors" hahahaha
You don`t have that problem with 35mm film, unless you are using Kodak Gold. The early digital cameras were just god awful.
Shooting in the 90s
Back in 2000, I had one of those 0.5MP cameras from China where if you bumped the camera too much, the AA batteries would jar, and you would lose all your photos. I guess because the memory chip didn't have a battery backup haha
@@andyk192 yeh I know
@@andyk192 in other words it would not hold data without power whereas modern SD CARDS will hold data even without power
@@stephensnell1379 so it’s basically RAM?
@@neotheapplefan332 ram is considered volatile ye
I remember buying a computer with a SuperDisk drive and the salesman kept talking about the USB drives the computer had being the future, but I was stuck on 128mb floppies thinking that was the selling point.
Important life lesson I guess lol.
Haha, I was a teenager saving up for those 120MB floppy drives , then when I had the money together they had already disappeared. I don't quite understand why though , the USB flash drives really weren't very competitive then, and a 120MB floppy drive would have been a logical upgrade path.
It was the Iomega 100mb and 250mb disks for me.
Do any of you remember the PS2 emotion engine that was going to revolutionize the home entertainment space.
Those 128mb floppies were ZIP disks
@@fargeeks No, those were 100/250MB. The 126MB was the LS120.
Back then there was nothing available for USB, for a couple of years it was even nicknamed the "Useless Serial Bus"
GamingGuy800 Wasn’t it technically popular by USB 2.0?
Indeed. In my country usb has exist since erly 2000, but people started using it around 2003-2004
@@limemyth While yes it became popular with 2.0, it was still objectively inferior to firewire until 3.0. The main downfall of firewire was that Intel simply dominated the computer field and through their weight behind usb. It's not that USB is bad, and I'm glad we finally have a standard. But firewire was just better in literally ever way, but thanks to Intel's business practices we simply got "good enough" with usb
I wish USB wasn't shaped like a rectangle. Universal Stupid Bus
The windows 98 compaq I grew up with had USB, but you're right I don't remember using them for a few years. And then it was only for a gravis gamepad pro.
funny to see you do those fake cut aways of you listening to the guy talking, suberb acting :)
I’ve heard the cut aways called “noddies” for obvious reasons. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noddy_(TV_interview_technique)
MindGem exactly lol
Makes me feel awkward and wierd and I'm not even there
I came down looking for this, exactly. Lol
@@ChintanPandya01 snap lol
June 2021: I still have my Mavica FD-7, some 3.5" floppy discs and an external 3.5" floppy drive. The Mavica took some real good quality pics at a pro wrestling (ECW) event I went to at a local college.
As much as I love digital and how far it's come in terms of quality, I still love film. The look, the whole darkroom experience...it's magical! I went out of my way to even buy a Krasnogorsk 16mm movie camera to try my hand at motion film. Love it.
It is ease of use vs qaulity.
@@bighands69 darkroom experience
Sounds wierd but I was so amazed when he said 480p
Same as a Wii
We had one of those cameras at work in ~ 2001 and I used it a fair amount. The optics and image quality were really good. I wished it had a write buffer so you could keep taking pictures without waiting each time for the file to be written to the disk.
@@vittosphonecollection57289 Only with component cables though.
480p is still better resolution than what UA-cam offered, when it was created.
480p was maximum resolution. It would make it where a disk only held about three photographs. The lower resolutions were grainy and ugly but a disk could hold more pictures.
imagine that falling to your face while browsing your photos in the bed
Fruitarian ouch
Ouchh
Been there, done that!!!
Mega Ouch
Imagine not using electronics in bed.
11:35 - That was the first digital camera I ever got to play with. My mother would bring it home from work all the time. I can remember making 20 seconds videos on it and being amazed :-)
I can imagine Linus Tech Tips in 1997: We Got a DIGITAL Camera!
Speaking of digital, the Tunnelbear lets you safely browse the digital world
@@Fifulek_ What if he eats me
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The Automaticist wtf you say about me
was he born?
I had a Mavica for years! FD85. From 2000-2005. Loved that camera.
I would kill for that mavika 85 model, the Photos look really good for a really old digital camera
The Obsolete Geek people still this camera.
During the 1990s ebay and internet antique dealers and vintage sellers bought these and made a good living with their new venture online.
some of the older people 50s 60s yo still use this camera for work because they have a don't change what works mentality.
10:36 love those reaction shots. They remind me of Samurai Cop!
HAHHAHAHHAHAHAHA
JAFO-PTY I
JAFO-PTY they were funny
Just picked up an old Mavica FD-90 at an estate sale for $15 (he totally nailed the price lol), I can't get over just how fun it is to take photos with. The feeling of taking a photo and instantly feeling the disk spin up and write is just superb, and the images have a dated yet perfectly acceptable quality to them, especially when it comes to color depth. Couldn't be happier with it!
Was anyone else reminded of early 2006-08 youtube videos when he showed the video footage from the camera?
Aaaah yeah! And those extremely low-res webcam videos! I also remember that videos back in 2006 and 2007 were in mono, stereo was not introduced until 2008 or something like that.
When stereo was introduced, you'd sometimes find a video that was entirely on the right channel only
It was actually the first thing that came to my mind.
me at the zoo XDDDD
Reminds me of trying to get early webcams working. "160x120 are you kidding me?"
You know it's gonna be a good day when David uploads a 20 minute video.
Arc I even get a snack before I start watching, one of my favorite channels
9:20 those buttons on those old pay phones are supreme. Just the feel of them are so awesome, I always wanted to press on them as a kid, even tho I had no one to call.
10:06 this is probably going to be a new art. Using first ever camera created to take pictures of quantum computer installations, latest gen spaceships, and sending the footage through a sophisticated process of aging... lol.
Pay phones NO longer even exist and are no longer even used,all those that would exist outside in Public will not even work even if a person tried nowadays as the cable running to it is as you are aware is disconnected entirely and anyway they no longer exist as everyone these days has a Smartphone and uses that for calls,texts,social media etc
Great video, I still have my Mavica FD95, with Sony add on wide angle lens and filters, extra batteries and the original box it came in.
Having a real lens really allows this camera to take some fantastic pictures .
I just picked up a Mavica for $2 at a thrift store, I'm going to go and restore it soon. Great video!
(Also, I happened to find the FD88, so... 😏)
I got an fd73 for a dollar
uliek potato I bought a new battery for it, and it turns out it doesnt work, so...
You should make a video about.
I still have my FDC-95!!
But too good camera
My current camera also creates a DCIM folder on the memory card :D Some things don't change :P
I have an old Canon camera which uses CF cards and it also creates a DCIM folder too. Funny thing, the Nintendo DSi and the Nintendo 3DS also create a DCIM folder when taking photos
most devices that captures media will use DCIM folder since its a universal generic root name for computers to read and recognise from it ( dunno about iphones since apple are backwards )
All my android devices has a DCIM folder
*****
thats a suprise ,id have assumed apple will use some bullshit named secret folder no one can access and only accesible via icrap tunes
DCIM is a standard nomenclature for any device which creates digital pictures which stands for "Digital Camera IMages"
The photo quality is still very impressive!
But still not as great as modern devices
@@stephensnell1379 yes remember these are the late 90s
That was a really cool period, I worked at Sony when these were introduced. It was the bees knees
LOL one picture from today's smartphone, wouldn't even fit on ONE disk.
@@0xbenedikt and if you were using the real single side floppy disks, the 5.25" ones, they only held like 250KB 😃
Leave
It's pretty funny. My 16mp wide angle camera takes like 6 mb photos
i tried it and used a blank double density disk and... yes, it fit 3 images as a double density floppy disk holds 1.44 MB
Imagine trying to cram a 10 second video on one
Goes online to buy mavica, price has skyrocketed beyond $1500. Dangit.
i found one in my city thriftshop for 25 bucks. don't give up yo
What??? I might be able to hook you up bro
The later models can be had pretty cheap if you look around - I found a working FD87 at a thrift store a couple months ago for $5.
was lucky to get one for free (FD92) ebay battery $20 , i am happy with it, a great trip down memory lane. what i would have been able to capture during that time it came out (2001)
Thanks to these videos for making prices skyrocket on eBay!
Haha my husband had one of these when I first met him. I screwed around with it for a while. The resolution was okay...certainly better than my own first digital camera. I think he used it to take pics of his artwork.
how old are you ?
I love the fact that you provided a professional's experience with this piece of technology for the video. It really helps give a well-rounded sense of how the hardware was used.
My 2019 Macbook Pro still doesn't have a USB.
Apple don't put usp in there phone or pc
If you like to have one use windows. Not ios or android
It does. It has USB-C.
USB-C is better in every way, and compatible.
@Opecuted whats a lightning?
Hmm That's weird ?
lol is that just one take of u nodding over and over? either way love it lmao
SpenserRoger Hahahaaa I was thinking about that too!! 😂😂 Handheld on the guy talking, cuts to static cam of him nodding and smiling! Lmao
Love those awkward cutaways to you listening!
I can't believe I found this video! I was a self employed web designer/developer back in 97 - 01. The biggest PITA was digitizing analog pics. The Mavica changed my world, I loved that thing! Most reactions were like: "What........is.........THAT!?" As good as it was, the Olympus Camedia C550 made digital cameras go mainstream. I still have my Camedia and I'm telling you it takes better pictures than many modern digital units. The way it captures light is just other worldly. When I want to take some serious photography, I still pull out the C550 all these years later.
When I was a senior in high school in '99, I went to a vocational school for computer classes, they had much larger budgets for it than my school (although my school had one of the first AutoCAD classes ever). They had the Mavica and my teacher even let me borrow it for a project, I took pics of EVERYTHING with that camera, still have a few that haven't been destroyed, but man we were so elated at the technology at the time :D
90s was an amazing moment for computer technologies.
I can hear "You kids have it easy" already...
2:26 IRQ conflicts-- oh gawd, I need a trigger warning before you mention that, it brings up traumatic memories. What a nightmare it was dealing with that crap.
This is the first digital camera I had. And I remember taking it to a an auto show, people were stopping me thinking it was the coolest thing. I still have it, and it still works.
11:04 thats weird that he filmed himself smiling and nodding when the guys was taliking to the camera, and if the guy was still talking when he was nodding and smiling, the camera would have been right were the guy was standing lol
Anthony Quigley It’s probably two cameras, b-rolls are a thing yo
I noticed that too! It really does look funny!
I had one of these cameras. I bought it new for $700. The camera was under 1 MegaPixel if I remember correctly.
WOAH!! can we talk about Brandon's synth collection? it's looks like he's got some seriously cool stuff.
Thanks! Check out my channel to hear some of them.
zibbybone oohhh! Subscribed!
I’m a younger man and many of my early family photos were taken on an MVC-CD1000, so I really enjoy you covering this line of camera.
Good old floppys.. when i was running around from the store with a bunch of them in my back pocket :D
A disk/cd case full of them when doing computer repair LOL. Now you can fit all that stuff on a USB flash drive that easily fits in your pocket. My how times have changed.
Can we talk about all of those pumpkins in the fountain?
No
I actually thought those were that red ball Gary from SpongeBob in that one episode played with.
640 x 480 is still plenty good enough to me
Yes to a point. 640x480 just isn`t up to modern standards at all. Heck, I can get 3000x2000 out of scanned 35mm film. Digital cameras back then were awful as the sensors and lens were just not up to the task at all. 35mm blew it out of the water in quality.
640 x 480 oughta be enough for anyone.
untseac Except with that early of a digital camera you get poor quality 640x480 images so the point is moot.
MattExzy Disagree especially with native screen resolutions only increasing. 640x480 is also not the best for print either.
untseac When I was making home videos for DVD, I shot all the stills to be used in my "movies" in 640x480 because that was close to the destination display (Standard definition CRT TV set.) For that it was fine. (I still use it when I need a Pre HDTV look).
Pretty cool, I distinctly remember my teacher back in 2001 having a camera using 3.5" floppies that looked distinctly like the Mavica as it was used for some class photos and field trips.
My first digital camera was a Mavica CD. I still have all those 3" CD's sitting around that I can view....
Those photos look like they were taken in 1997! Gotta love that vintage look.
jontron
Thst last cam takes better photos than my iphone 8 plus
I've found most smart phone cameras well...suck. Course its supposed to be a phone not a professional studio camera in the first place LOL. My $150 Canon Powershot A510 takes far better photos than any cell phone camera I've had...cell phone camera is great for an emergency but if you are taking pictures to use professionally you should be using a professional camera LOL.
The last camera just beats my modern digital camera and completely thrashes my phones camera.
This os the first time i have heard of someone with an iphone 8, how is it?
@@wildbill23c Thar Galaxy Note 9 is one of the most beautiful phone cameras I have ever seen.
Hahaha
There’s actually some truth to this. The picture quality in less than perfect conditions (low light, moving subjects, etc) requires a larger sensor and a bigger lens to excel. It is literally a constraint of how much light your camera can collect in time.
Phone cameras have tiny sensors and tiny lenses and will produce shit low light shots no matter how advanced the technology gets. An old DSLR camera or even dedicated point and shoot will outperform the tiny phone camera in less than perfect light conditions.
Wow it's already been 4 years since this was posted up and I remember viewing this only hours after it was posted. Time sure goes by quickly.
Wow its been eight months since you said you saw it four year before.
You should do a video on the history of the CD and CD drives!
Andy Moran Better - Complete History of Data Storage. That will be a great video.
Radu Cismaru Totally! I'd even watch it in multiple parts if it took up that much time. Loves me some 8-bit guy vids
Andy Moran I'd wait months for this!
1% I get better quality photos from my current camera.
99% Wait your telling me I can take as many pictures as my computer can hold!
Reaction shots. Someone's getting fancy with their videos :-)
EveryThingOld
I hope he didn't have a 2nd camera, so all those reaction shots were shot separate. XD I appreciate the effort though, this channel keeps getting better and better!
Hey! I just found this channel about 2 months ago and am really enjoying it all. Good job 8-Bit Guy
8:23 Somebody's needing a new bed door...
Some people actually take the door off on purpose. They think is helps fuel efficiency. But it doesn't really
[Edits footage of myself standing on the other side of the room into the video]
*nods in agreement*
[Original footage resumes]
Digital is only now rivaling film for resolution. I still take pictures of lots of things using film, I just don't take 5-20 of each shot, I compose, and take it right the first time.
asherael Film doesn't have "resolution" as far as I'm aware
asherael the problem was always the Pros, as soon as they move on to better tech the masses never get access to their previous pro tech as the companies making their tech never bothered to target the masses. Even in 2019 the masses are using 10 year tech for video and DSLR's. It is getting better but we still have a long way to go. Look at the Pro DV cameras with DVC pro in the mid 2000's they never reached the masses. DV cameras from 2001 still outperform any video consumer camera in 2019 hands down.
@@danfuerthgillis4483 I'm not sure if you're exaggerating or not. Panasonic G85 and Sony a6300 are pretty amazing cameras with astounding 1080p and great 4K. How are 2019 consumer cameras lacking?
@@blossom.ch4 I have the Canon D60 for pictures mainly. My JVC DV Camera from 2001 has Zero and I mean Zero grain when shooting a concert in low light (only stage lights) it leaves the Canon D60, GH4 , Nikon's in the dust. The problem is the 2000 DV cameras had much bigger sensors so they had barely any grain even in low light condition. It is completely unacceptable that my $50 JVC DV Camera camera from 2001 rivals a Canon c100 in terms of low light performance and grain. Also the day shots at 720x480 ( DV res) absolutely annihilates even a Canon Mark 3 lol. No offence buy a 2005 DVC Pro camera even at 1440 resolution that destroys any 10,000 semi pro consumer video camera. Ask yourself this question why are you buying a digital camera that has locked frame rates? Professional Industrial cameras do not have these locked frame rates they shoot any frame rate from 1 fps to the max of the hardware. Also the lack of lenses support is a joke as you are forced to fuck around with DSLR's just to have lenses support lol.
Danfuerth Gillis none of what you say is actually true. 🤯 DV cameras had small sensors between 1/2" and 1/6". On top of that they were CCDs which were notoriously bad in low light. Modern CMOS sensors are vastly superior in every respect. I don’t know why you set your old Canon DSLR as the benchmark but modern digital cameras (like the GH4 you mentioned) are leagues ahead in image quality in terms of resolution, low-light performance and dynamic range. Your bit about frame rates is absolutely nonsensical as well: modern cameras usually support all the mainstream frame rates like 24, 25, 30, 50 and 60. Why would you want to record in a non-standard frame rate that couldn’t even be played back correctly on a monitor that only supports a limited number of frame rates as well? There’s absolutely no reason to do that. Instead, you choose a standard frame rate and adjust the shutter speed you want to use at that frame rate.
Really glad you did a video on the Mavica, my first experience of using digital cameras. My grandad (grandfather - I'm from the UK) had one of these, it was a more advanced model than this as it could take 1.3 megapixel images and video (didn't last long on a floppy disk but you could do short clips). I remember going into an electronics store at the time and the big selling point they mentioned was that you didn't have to buy expensive memory cards whereas floppy disks where affordable and readily used. At the time, they performed really well but were typically more expensive than memory card cameras in the UK.
Obrigado 8 bit guy, eu nunca tinha visto câmeras assim antes, não sabia que isso existiu um dia. A câmera com CD me surpreendeu de verdade.
4:23 sitting here quarantined in 2020 reminiscing about Emilio
My main AIM teacher back in late 4th to 5th grade(2009 to 2010) had a floppy disk camera that she had us use for multiple projects & would use the camera to photograph events. It had incredible image quality & could take quite amount of photos. Still impressive for a digital camera that stores to floppy disk.
That chair you were sitting in was wonderful. All of your videos should be narrated from you sitting in that chair now.
My son, Comic Drake, uses one of my thrones in his videos.
If I saw those pictures without context, I’d be convinced that they were taken in the 90s or 2000s
It's a fairly good demonstration of how our mental images of those time periods, even having lived through them, are heavily influenced by the media recorded of them that you can view today. I can remember being a very young child thinking that color only existed after 1950 because of all the black and white pictures my grandparents showed me. I recently unearthed my collection of film negatives for pictures I took in the late 90's / early 00's with my first camera (I didn't get a digital camera until ~2006). I paid to have them scanned in and wow, they look so different than the pictures of the period I see the most (mostly from my dad's first DSLR post 2002).
back in the days, you packed up your floppy disks when you went for a vacation
The Mavica was AWESOME! Back in the 90s. I worked in a test lab and I convinced the boss to buy one. It was really great for making test reports with pictures of our setups.
Back before MP3s I used to, for no particular reason, record songs to floppy disk. Since there was no compression, I used to have to record at a low sampling rate to fit a song on a disk. So, the audio quality was poor. Also, the song would skip every time the disk changed tracks. But it was fun anyway.
i did the same thing with video, silly but fun.
I did that too, but then my friend give a software to divide a file. And i always bring a pack of floppy disk.
lolll the video taken by the Mavica FD85 remind me of those Sega-CD ''Full Motion Video'' games :D
Now that I'm thinking about it ... I wonder what kind of camera they used to shot these ''Video games'' and how they digitized the footage, back in 1992ish.
Benoit Levesque The digitizing was the same PCM used for LD and CD/VCD.
It's so weird seeing that Compaq computer without a mouse pad.
it got a trackball on the right side of the monitor. mouse buttons are on the back.
I remember buying those Compaqs at a company I was at back in the day. With some additional accessories and the upgraded 8 Megabyte memory, the cost was around $5,000.
What, really? It's like having DS buttons on the top screen.
Excellent video on these vintage cameras! Makes me nostalgic and thankful for the modern digital cameras
Thank you!
Professional photographers still use film! Film isn't dead!
Tommy Whitaker No it should not. Digital images are soulless, plain representations of the real world without any appeal of ever being looked at again.
Opposing that analog images DO have soul, they are timeless and will more likely be looked at again.
Ask almost any wedding or portrait photographer they will tell you just that.
NiklasStøterau but they don't last long
Tommy Whitaker Well ok, but of what use is that? Nobody will live long enough to make use of those longer lasting digital images.
It's only of use for future generations because they can access our images more easily.
Stop with the poetic bullshit! Photos have souls? That is just meaningless pretentious gibberish. Im pretty sure people in the late 1800s would say that paintings "have soul" as opposed to those technical artificial machine-made photographs. Some people think that being stuck in the past is wise and everytime a new technology replaces the old one, these people complain like little kids about "souls" and similar crap, but their emotional arguments never stand the test of time.
Did you just say film doesn't last long? You know what a negative is? They can last for hundreds of years with proper care. But oh, you probably also believe an 800x600 image is better than film quality. Film is and always will be better than digital, digital just offers more convenience.
If digital was better why are most movies still shot on 35mm? Because, short and simple, film looks better.
120/220 film in a 6x9 camera
56x84mm
8 shots per 120 roll, 16 per 220 roll
Most popular film format in the 1950s and 1960s
6x9 @ 4000DPI (56x84mm)
13228.346456692913385826771653543
8818.8976377952755905511811023622
116.66 megapixels
The 120 format film is cheaper than the 35mm film ($5 per roll vs $7)
I think I know why 120 film is still around while 35mm is about to go extinct - digital cameras have surpassed the resolution of 35mm, but they still have a long way to go before surpassing 120 format film.
The main reason Digital has surpassed film is the immediacy of being able to view what you have shot, to delete what you don't like, take the shot over as many times as you have storage for, and the ability to either replace your memory card with another without the risk of ruining your photos by exposing your card to light, and the ability to quickly transfer your photos to a computer to, back up photos, to quickly send them to someone via email, online storage, etc, and the ability to wipe a memory card for reuse.
By not only backing up or transferring your images to a laptop or other device with a lot of storage, and backing them up on one or more external drives; you can also make sure you don't loose your photos if your luggage gets stolen or lost, not to mention how much cheaper it is to shoot on digital rather then having to pay for film development even if you do it yourself.
The power of in immediacy can also be seen in the resurgence of Instamatic film cameras, such as those by, Fuji, Kodak, and other companies.
So, for most people Digital is better. If you are talking taking professional photos, that is a different story, some photographers do only digital, while others use only film, and still others use both.
LS-120 was awesome. Never knew that this camera existed. To bad ZIP-drive won out.
I had a portable parallel zip drive back in the late 90's mainly because it was cheaper then the LS-120 for both the drives, and media, plus the overall software drivers where better on Windows 98, but then again even with 200MB, zip disc and 1GB Jazz drives none of it lasted much longer once CD Burners became common place shortly afterwards.
The cool thing about having a ls-120 was that it could also rescue bad 1.44 and 2.88 disks that could not be read by new drives
It's funny that David said that no one ever tried to make the floppy drive faster... but the LS-120 drives read standard floppy disks a lot faster than a standard floppy drive. The original drives were super flaky though, and read 1.44's poorly. I still have dozens of superdisks in a box somewhere....
Diggnuts True that, and I remember the commericals somewhat making that a selling point, but like i said price was a big factor for the ZIP drive, and should have also mentioned some computers even came preinstalled with internal 100MB zip drive by default like some Gateway, and Compaq models if I remember correctly.
Commodorefan64 Compaq backed both horses in the media race, they also preinstalled LS120 drives in some of their machines. I owned both Zip and LS120 back in the late 90's but by far preferred the LS120. I actually still use a LS120 today to read/write floppy disks in my modern PC.
The common cold plush is perfect! I bought a giant mono one and always wanted the cold but never bought it. It's still so cute!
Who needs to do drugs when you have The 8-Bit Guy?
Holy cow what am i doing with my life? Ive been bench watching ur vids for days straight. Good job sir
+1 for the music, UT music rocks. also, more brandon sharing his expertise pls!
oh and your audio is a lot better now. still fun to watch the old episodes!
I'm glad to see none of these used the PC parallel/printer port like many devices did before USB became widely available.
Woah woah woah, wait. Y'all city folk actually got public charging stations for them electric thingamajig cars of yours? That was the most interesting thing fer me in this video!
Fox Wright
Lol, wow, it was a joke dude. I commerce to my nearest city for work every day. Although we're up in Northern Michigan where almost no one has electric cars, so our city doesn't have charging stations installed for them.
I actually didn't realize they had those yet in other cities, because, like I said, just about NO ONE in my local area owns or drives them.
Seriously, it was a joke, get over yourself. I can't believe you felt it necessary to take time out of your day to insult some random poster on the internet.
Sachi Game 😂😂😂😂
Lol they're commonplace even in rural Italy where the fuck do you live hahaha
9:10
"...without *any fear of being attacked* by a giant robot."
*Proceeds to be attacked by a giant robot*
Oh, one million subscribers. Congratualations!
2019/11/12
I remember these very well. I used the Mavica a few times myself at work.
I still have work photos saved on my computer from '98-'99 using that camera at job sites.
Check the size of that Flash Card man!
I would love to play with all those synths.
I host a synth meet at my furniture shop every fall. Come to Dallas and check them out. Videos of previous meets can be seen on my channel.
I had a Mavica and LOVED it. My folks bought it but "didn't like it" which meant "we want more picture of our grandkids". We used the hell out of it!
People often don't realize that the optics matter more than the megapixels. Those cameras had low resolution a but great lenses to ensure the few pixels you had were all unique and in focus.
Also non finalized disks can be read by any cd writer drive. Only non writing drives needed finalized CDs.
This is pretty decent for the time.
I like how you actually have 84 floppy disks lying around
The 8-Bit Guy
You love Robocop too? :)
From the brilliant Paul Verhoeven.
Damn, what a setup of that antique furniture guy.
So far ahead of its time, so memory comes back from my 4th or 5th grade elementary computer class, we used these! Was awesome! We were working on publisher or word if i remember right. So cool though. Looking back as a photographer now and using a sony a7ii and canon 5d mark ii both full frame. It’s just so neat! Thanks for sharing and giving so much info on it.
Whats up with the random shots of you when your friend is speaking?
That's kind of the standard filmmaking style of an interview.
It's called a "noddy": en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noddy_%28TV_interview_technique%29
In continuity editing you have to take into account the 180 degree rule. This video does not.
I think it adds to the 80's style to be honest :)
Never seen a noddy that didn't look cringey.
10:36 .... *uh... is that a “that’s what she said” moment? Is that why you’re chuckling?* :)
HOLY SHIT your buddy has a sequential Pro-One .... I fucking drool over that synth. Metric's Emily Haines uses one and I've always wanted one.
Actually, I have 2 of them. One is at home. This room is "overflow" that's at my furniture shop.
Yes i noticed that too, and the Prophet. :D
But why are the monitors so close to the wall? In a corner even! I've always been told that this is a very bad idea....
Those monitors aren't even plugged in. That's not my "studio", it's a storage room in my furniture store for "overflow" synths. I have all 4 analog Roland Jupiter synths, but they're all at home, so there's no Jupiter in 8 Bit's video. You can hear my Jupiter synths on my channel.
zibbybone Ah, shit, I didn't realize that was you when watching your parts! That's kinda cool; you go by "Z" on VSE, right?
Yes, I'm Z on VSE (what's left of it - kinda a ghost town lately)
Wow, my dad had one of those and still used it well into the late 2000's. I always thought it was so weird but oddly convenient, especially in a country where you could still see floppy discs being used in 2010.
idea: history of SD Cards
Just gave my smartphone a big hug Lol!
You need some friends.
Galactipod Lol!!
Nige Turner - Can you imagine putting floppy discs in your smartphone?
Z M I know right!!
Z M to be fair some people still do, just just Micro SD cards now and 1000 times bigger
Nobody beats the 8 bit guy :D
I remember my cousin had a Sony Mavica and I thought it was just awesome. He would upload the pictures onto a Geocities or Angel Fire website and that started my love for HTML and website design/PC tech. My dad ended up buying one for his eBay store.... about $800 at Best Buy... or maybe it was Circuit City...
Whaaaat??? The claim that the 1.3MP camera quality surpassed film is quite crazy.
I shoot both film and digital these days. My 35mm film pictures with cameras from the 1970's, take as good pictures as my 20MP Canon 70D with super sharp lenses like the 50mm 1.4. (If properly scanned).
My medium format (6x7) pictures (Mamiya RZ67) take way better pictures, I get scans of 60MP with amazing details (even better if with drum scanner in a lab). Is it as convenient to use as a digital camera? Not really, but image quality wise digital is only now catching up with film (unless we are talking about medium & large format film).
For normal consumer use, digital quality became "good enough" long time ago for most people. But 1.3MP was not really the point it happened IMHO.
My father had a Sony digital camera that took floppy disks and I remember even back then we thought the images looked bad. His printed images from the 70-90's look amazing in comparison.
Modern digital cameras take really nice pictures, even phone cameras, and the use of film (from a practical POW) is gone for most consumers and prof. photographers. But I have to say that whenever I go back home, we gather around old photo albums and look at old pictures. But we never look at slide shows of digital images. Any memory since we started shooting digital, is never revisited.
I think it's really sad that people never print images anymore and digital photography caused this shift. Since realizing this, I've started to print a lot more (both my digital images and film images, sometimes in the darkroom).
While MF film will technically out compete my modem entry level 24mp DSLR (Nikon D3300) it also massively out competes my ability as a photographer!