Stihl 028 Chainsaw! Won’t Idle! Do We Have A Crank Seal Leaking? Let’s Find Out!
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2025
- Stihl 028 chainsaw that won’t idle / wants to stall out. Let’s go through this saw and do a full range of diagnostics and find the defects! Follow along with Erica and Tyler!
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Here are some of the tools I Used in this video:
Pressure / Vac Pump : 0000 850 1300
T Handle T27: 5910 890 2415
8MM T Handle: 5910 890 2420
Crank Seal Puller Set : 5910 890 4400
Intake flange: 5910 850 4207
Fuel Line Hook: 5910 893 8800
Exhaust Block Off Plate: 5910 855 4201
Crank Seal Driver: 1118 893 2401
Fuel Line Removal Tool: 5910 890 4501
No one else on the internet does a better, more detailed explanation of a diagnosis and repair than you, simply the best and thank you Erica!!
100% Erica is the best teacher .
Not only an excellent teacher, she has the right tools to do the work. I like the seal puller. I see people drilling the seals and using slide hammers. Neanderthals, I tell ya. Here we have civilization at its finest.
I agree!
No case splitting, makes these a bit easier.
Erica, do you like the Stihl pressure/Vacuum tester? I haven't had great luck with the Mitivac as far as durability, last a year or so and need repairs. Also, could you post the part number for the press/vacuum kit you're using?
Great job, saw sounded great! Keep up the good work and video's, much appreciated! 🇨🇦❤
the customer will be so pleased to get his grandfather's saw in tip top condition
Wow! You are one of the best instructors/teachers there is. Your slow methodical progression through the diagnosis and the orderly steps of the repair, is a thing of beauty. The filming is equally as great and makes your small engine channel the best I have ever seen. Thank you so much for sharing with all of us out here!
Those old fuel filters had replaceable inner filters, I was a Stihl dealer back in the 70’s.
Never saw one before. But even before I saw the inside of the carb I thought "I want one of those..." 8-)
Another stellar lesson on how to properly diagnose and repair a two stroke engine! You rock, keep the great chainsaw repair videos coming!
Yes,,, I have a half dozen 028's and yes the early fuel filter was approximately a.50 cent piece of sponge foam, and replaceable...
Love that swing press 😂😂
I have a Stihl 028 AV Super that I got under similar circumstances. As a very impressionable teen, I once watched this saw being put through its paces and it got me hooked on chainsaws. After the gentleman died, his wife gave it to me because she knew I would get it running again and look after it. I got it running again for purely sentimental reasons, but it's proven to be a such a great saw, seemingly running better than my brand-new MS 271. I have always screwed up my face the "they don't make em like the used to" thing, but this is so true for the 028. That's for the video!
Yup, my two main saws are a 1973 Homelite XL-12 and a 1981 Stihl 028AV. Both of them are rugged, reliable saws.
I really like the chainsaw vids. Step by step and commentary is great! Helps me alot.
For some time I had figured the crank seals could be installed using a properly sized deep well socket, but I had often wondered how they would be extracted. Your video showed the right way to get things done. Thank you for clearing things up.
Thanks!
Don't know your first name but nice job as usual, and thanks for showing us the vac & pressure gauge and readings.
My Name is Erica :)
@@marriedwithsmallengines You are the best stihl tech I have ever seen. Maybe sometime you could post the Tools you use, Thank you for sharing!
So I’ve been watching a lot of your videos and when I pulled out my saw today I realized I was the bad customer you have with all the extremely dirty saws. 😂. Needless to say I spent a good 2 hours scrubbing it clean.
That was great!!! you've done the glass jar for fuel,and in this case it really showed how bad it was.Then you topped it off with the close up of the pressure /vacuum test and that was even BETTER!!!I've never seen that done,let along know it was important.Now it makes sense to me.Thank you for very valuable lessons.Your right up at the top.
Love the content. Can't get enough of the chainsaw stuff. Most other channels never mention vacuum/pressure testing but you're right on. keep it up
Yes, so much to learn in every video. I never knew there was an opposite to air pressure called vacuum.
My German father pronounces Stihl, "Shtil", lol. I'm really enjoying these videos. I'm glad there are so many. TY.
I'm not sure what to think. We live in a farming/ranching area with many German, Austrian and Swiss immigrants. I've asked about this, and some insist Stihl is pronounced "shtill". Some insist it's "still" and others say it's "steel". No-one can agree. I say "shtill", and that seems as good as anything!
That runs great, the oil on the seal trick was pretty cool. You should take the pieces of your log out there and burn your logo onto them for souvenirs 😊
OK, you sold me on the vacuum and pressure tester. Seals do need replacing IMO, but that is a very minor leak that probably did not hinder performance,---so far. With an air leak, (crank seals, long block gaskets or intake leak between carb and cylinder.), the idle will go up from running in a lean condition. Stihl has the good tools for a person to do a perfect job, and you promote them well. Nice to see.
I'm gonna be comment number 101😁 This was an excellent tutorial you guys❤ I mean you can't beat a channel with a smart, pretty lady repairing chainsaws! Great work Erica and Tyler...on your way to 10K subs!!!
Nice Video! Nice Saw. Greetings from W. Germany 😊
I’ll watch it later tonight with a nice cup of coffee. Hope to see you and Tyler tomorrow!
We are having an open house tomorrow, stop by for a hot dog!
Congratulations!! It runs really well now! Just one advice. When you cut, let the saw lean itself at wood, don't fight it. Saw will do it's job without too much strain on your body or the engine.
Love your videos so much!! Cheers from Croatia!!
Brilliant job as usual!!🥰🥰💪🍺👍
Thank you!
Another fantastic video Erica. I have some rookie questions so I just emailed to you. Thank you for sharing.
I will check it out!
Nice work to keep an older saw going for a lot longer. It runs great! Thanks!
Erica you should start Stihl University, great content very well done. I learn every time I watch your video's. Thank you.
You are my favorite TECH hands down thanks for all your awesome videos 👍🏼
Yes, fuel filters used to have a replacement foam piece.
Thanks to you, (min 13:50) I will use a piece of rubber to block off ports for a leak down test. I have always used new gaskets, and some tend to leak a bit. Damn you! :)
LOVE IT. No blame, no shame, no DRAMA!!!!.
Nice view of the eclipse chicks. Great work on the saw. Makes for a perfect video. Thank you for sharing.👍
Wikipedia: Stihl is a German company, founded by the mechanical engineer Andreas Stihl in 1926, and headquartered in Baden-Württemberg, near Stuttgart, Germany. All of their early saws, including the first Stihl chainsaws, were manufactured there.
To add to this: "West Germany was the Federal Republic of Germany from its formation on 23 May 1949 until its reunification with East Germany on 3 October 1990"
And Andreas Stihl was a native of Switzerland.
Night shift working on a chain saw 😊
Awesome Saws And Yes Those Old Fuel Filters Were Serviceable You Could clean The Screen and Replace The Inner Filter Element and Reinstall The Cap on The End 😊😀 The West German Saws Were Made Until The Fall of The Berlin Wall When Germany Unified They Certain Models Were Changed to Say Made in Germany The Commercial Saws The Magnums and CutQuick’s Are Exclusively Made in Germany The 200T and 201T and 461 Rescue and Rock Boss as Examples 😊😀😊 Great Job on The Seal Diagnosis
Thank you for taking the time to put this video together. I enjoyed watching and I am sure that it will help people. :-)
very interesting, Awesome to watch
Glad you enjoyed it
Awesome fix ! Nice work 👍
Thanks 👍
Brilliant detective work again keep them going
Good job! Bet customer is well pleased? Sentimental stuff from your elders is invaluble!!💪💪👍👍
I like how you show the steps you go through to trouble shoot and repair this saw back to running condition.
Great diagnostics lady. Never change
I carry my camera to garage sales and sockets
Works great and has saved me lots of money 😊😊
Unlike many YT vids of people trying to fix stuff, I like that you don't use hand power tools to remove and install every nut and bolt to look "impressive".
I say you are pretty impressive without the hand power tool show. :)
for me this was your. best video. keep going with your tutorials i'm learning all the time, saying thankyou doesn,t seem enough
On my first job, repairing chainsaws, the company sold Homelite saws. Even brand new, the crank seals wold leak. Setting up a new saw was a joke. The XL was the only one with any promise. The other models were a joke.
You are amazing in your faulty tracing.
//Sweden
The 028, Type 1118 was built from 1977 to 1993. The 028 Wood Boss was built from 1983 to 1993. It had more displacement and more power than the older ones : 51,5 cubic centimeters and 3,4 hp or 2,5 kw. Regards from Northern Germany.
You are an excellent teacher. Thanks ❤
Wow, thank you!
Stihl is a German manufacturer of chainsaws and other handheld power equipment including trimmers and blowers. Their headquarters are in Waiblingen, ... While the German founding company is still the nucleus of development of new products, the sales network and the international manufacturing network have undergone continuous expansion. Today, STIHL products are produced in seven countries worldwide.
STIHL Inc. is located on over 180 acres in Virginia Beach, with over one million square feet of manufacturing, warehouse, and office space. STIHL Inc. employs over 3,000 people nationwide, with over 2,700 employed at its manufacturing facility in Virginia Beach.
Hallo, I m from Germany , I live close to Stihl manufactury , and I visit your channel all the time. Hwm
Wow that it is so cool how the oil gets suck in and you can tell a bad crank seal
I think your customer will be very happy with his grandad's old saw. John from MI
Awesome job. All your vid's are informative and detailed. Out to the shop to find my leaky seals now. Also I like those specialty tools you have.
Great Video, thank you.
Thank you for the kind words. They are appreciated!!
Very informative Erica and you found the problem. Happy saw happy owner.
Amazing!!! Incredible fault finding and superb presentation! Thanks
Erica, Andreas Stihl opened his first factory in Bad Cannstatt (a suburb of Stuttgart) in 1926. He moved the works to Waiblingen in 1944 after we destroyed his shops in a bombing raid. All saws leaving the new works were labeled 'Made in West Germany", Waiblingen being in West Germany. Of course, once the Berlin Wall came down in 1989 saws were simply "Made in Germany".
In 1974 Stihl opened its North American manufacturing facility in Virginia Beach, Virginia. Most saws you work on today will have been made in that Virginia factory. In 2008 Stihl opened a factory in Qingdao, China. I don't know what to make of that!
I have a 1980s Stihl 028AV that's "Made in West Germany". A wonderful old saw, but the spark is very poor in spite of a new set of points and condenser. I'm thinking about upgrading to a used Wood Boss flywheel so I can go with electronic ignition.
Thank you , that was some excellent information .
Is it true he also worked with the “Dolmar” guy back in the beginning?
Thank you, I still have Dad's 028 AV, last time I used it 20 years ago, it suffered from the same problem, maybe I can revive it from this video.
I don’t have that saw, but I sure enjoy the process of the repairs that you show…..another great job
A beautiful saw, well worth the fix.
great explanation of a saw service ,028 were a fantastic saw i have a 028 av super and a 028 wood boss which I am having trouble getting to run consistently .I cleaned the carburetor and it started easy ran and idled perfectly but 2 days later when I tried it it was giving erratic idle again very annoying keep up the videos great info
You're the best Erica. I like that seal removal tool.
Swing press…….chuckle chuckle….never heard that expression before….love it.👍
Great content, great video. Thanks Erica.
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is a great video, I enjoyed watching it. Your work on fixing chainsaws is quite interesting.
Good afternoon, you are one smart lady, Steve from Nb st. Stephen
Oh thank you
Good video, very interesting. I haven’t ran into any seal issues on my amateur repair journey but now atleast I know how to repair and more importantly what tools I’ll need to change them out
Actually Stihl shows that part number as the limiter cap removal tool for some brush cutters and pole saws. But it works well for getting fuel lines off so I'm getting one!
with it leaking aroung the saw how does this effect the saws performance??
It will lean out the fuel mixture eventually causing piston scoring on the exhaust side. The rings usually get stuck and the saw will not run. Depending on damage, if light just the piston and rings are replaced, if heavy the cylinder needs to be replaced as well.
you should be sponsored by stihl as you recommend alot of there tools its good advertising for them and you do such good job at chainsaw repair really enjoyed your presentation brilliant
I’ve got an O34 AV Super. It also has made in West Germany on it. I’ve always assumed it is a pre 1989 saw. I don’t know the year of manufacture. I got the saw around 1991.
Hello Erica want to start saying that I enjoy your videos,and to thank you for sharing your knowledge and videos. And there’s nothing wrong with OCD(not trying to tell you how to do your job) however it was hard to watch you open up to saw while it was so dirty. (My OCD would have had it back at the wash bay first) just saying. Thanks again for sharing your videos, you have great troubleshooting skills. So please keep them coming as often as you are able. 👍😎
At it’s age seems best to replace the seals, fuel hoses and filters
Anything worn need to be replaced 😊
Thank You for other great videos
I'm here. When my favorite TV show ends, I'll watch...
I love watching your videos 😊. Thanks Erica.
15:57. That tool is 24 bucks!! Should be spelled STEAL! Great video Erica, enjoy your open house tomorrow!
Very good vid on leaks and general maintenance. Nice to see the oil being sucked in at the crankseal sealing surface at vacuumtesting. Keep it up. 😊
Ok I learned something new today, I really liked that oil trick on the seal test.
I have been using Stihl 066, 090G and MS880. The Stihl 090G is a beast. The MS880 comes second as the exhaust has more restriction. The old 066 (renamed to MS660) was a nice allround chainsaw.
Would be great to see a repair of MS880 if you get it for maintenence
Just bought my press/vac tester, can’t Wait to try it! Looks so neat to know exactly what’s wrong.
A beautiful 028 great shape. I love the stihl 028
Removing the seal without taking the engine apart is soooooooo awesome! Love the seal puller!! Do you need a metric “swing press”? 😊 Many thanks!!!!
Another great repair - thanks for sharing to logic process to determine the problem. Was wondering if the tool that you used to remove the fuel line off the carb nipple would also work to remove the fuel line from the tank rather than using the needle nose pliers? I imagine the needle nose pliers give you more leverage to pull the grommet portion of the line out of where it seals in the tank but I would think they could damage the fuel hose if someone was trying to save a fuel line if it was still in good shape. Really enjoy watching your videos.
Well done keep it up 🙂
Thanks 😊
As I watch these Stihl troubleshooting videos, I’m struck by how well engineered these saws are. Plus, completely rebuildable. Also, “swing press”…made me chuckle.
I have both a West Germany 024AV (bought in 1984) and 028 from my wife's late uncle. Great saws. Keep them well maintained but I did need to replace the carbs and fuel filters a few years ago (it "may" have been) and both run great. Just need one a little biger for the larger trees on my 30 acres of georgeous North Carolina mountain.
Teamwork makes the dream work. As always great work. The saw had little use looked in excellent condition
Another great video Erica. I'm still waiting for an explanation for removing the compression release before the pressure/vac test. LOL
There is an explanation for removing and blocking off the decompression valve and I will cover that next time I do a saw video with a decompression valve / pressure vac test. Thanks for watching!
Nice job 👍🏼
In the early 1980's and before that, there was West Germany, and East Germany. The German products that I bought during that time frame, were all labeled as Made in West Germany. Then about the mid-1980s, I remember the US President (Regan at the time) was saying to the German governments to take down that wall that separates the west and the east. After that, the two unified, and now there is only one Germany. I think the West was a democracy, and the East was not. So, it is so nice to have them all as one nation. This is interesting that you can relatively time things on what it says on the label as where it's made.
First thing I noticed was this saw didn’t have the Frankenstein gas & oil tank covers. I wonder why they didn’t leave them this way, they were great.
Another good video👍
Thanks so much for the great video. I have one of these a friend gave me that had been severely neglected. I learned a lot from your video and wish it would have been available a year or so ago. I encountered some of the same issues bringing it back into serviceable condition. It's now one of my favorite power saws.
Like what you doing keep it up dear Wishing you all were closer to us 🎉😅
Thank you for another excellent video!
Good job
Great video on a great saw.
I own one which have been in my family since new back in the late 70s and it is still working fine.
Thanks for sharing you knowledge.
I enjoy all your videos. I see last posts was a few months ago. Hope you are well.
I am!
That would be a good name for an all girl band "Eclipse Chicks" Their music would be FAR Out.
The older Stihl saws used 40:1 fuel mix. I'm guessing this is one of those. Is this the mix you used or is 50:1 with the newer oils okay to run these. Just asking as i have my father in-laws old 024AVS running 40:1. Great videos by the way.
I generally run 50:1