Telling me to be prepared for a "stiff brake", I came from thrustmastet standard pedals to Asetek Invicta. I thought I was pushing a wall the first 5 hours
@@vsdfsdfsdfwew I did, I even changed to the green elastometer by now. I am quite a slender person, so at first I did the same I do when sitting in a cart which was just fully pushing my back against the seat. Using that to start I went to mostly using my leg muscles by now in a few 20 or so hours of use. I am not pushing them that far, you dont need to. I think I am at around 40-50 bar only but its more then enough as long as your muscle memory gets the gist of where your pedal needs to be for breaking.
@@MaggotAddict21 fir sure it is more stiff. However i found it to be a positive thing. You will have to get used to is for a few hours/days but overall they are great
this all i needed to hear. I got the CSL DD 5nm with wheel and CSL Load cell pedal kit for 520. Cant wait for it to get here this next week and feel the difference from my old g920
I'd like to add that if you don't have a sim rig then to mount the pedals using a piece of plywood with an overhang of wood at either end and placed up against the wall works just fine. You'll need to source some thin rubber to place at either corner to provide a little stickyness and, well it's just nicer underfoot.
I bought the load cell brake pedal and used it yesterday for the first time, before I had the standard couple of pedals from Fanatec, using the brake with the stiffening foam, now removed to use the same pedal as clutch. Firs impression: the load cell pedal is WAY stiffen then before, I hardly make it move lets say for 1cm. I adapted the sensibility using the wheel base: yes this can help to not lock the wheels, but the pedal is incredibly firm and hard to use. I then passed the whole day adapting my breaking tecnique and leg position. At the end of the day I can say I LOVE this pedal as it is more realistic and very sensitive.
I have had the the pedal set for a months now. The overall feel of the brake is good , but a bit vague when it came to trail braking. Installed the over priced 3D wrap linear elastomer and it feels great. Gives it a bit of initial take up then stiffens. For those who prefer more stiffness id suggest the progressive elastomer. I also modified my pedal set with the a set of OMP pedal faces for 25 dollars
Everyone says you can't use them on the floor, but I found a little trick that let's me put like 80 or 90 % force without it moving much. You just have to put it against a wall or box, then pull it towards you slightly and put something hard and stiff but thin behind that back section of the load cell pedal, I just use some random little peice of wood. It doesn't move back because of the wall or box, and it barley lifts off the ground because when you put that hard force on the brake, it can't rotate because that small hard peice is there putting the force on the box and wall instead.
right. I find it unbelievable that you can't use them on the floor. Same is said about other pedals, but I've also used t3pa and clubsport v2 pedals without much issue (for the t3pa I just needed a 0.5€ rubber mat under it, and with the cs pedals simply to not use the brake at full weight, which I dont want anyways). Always better with a rig though
I too had the opportunity to test and review the CSL pedal with LC, they did a great job but they laughed a little more complicated disassembling the elastomer system. plus not supplying spare parts for many people was a bit tough
Regarding setting the brake force to a low settng, and trail braking; you may find you don't have much pedal travel if you set the braking force too low. Although setting it higher means you need to push harder it increases the pedal travel and gives you more control over your braking.
I had to read your comment 5 times to actually understand what you were trying to say. Maybe explain it better next time, or not at all. I know everything about these pedals and it was still difficult to understand your point. If someone just now researching these pedals reads your comment, that person will be confused as FUCK!
I've had these for about 1,5 years now. And I still don't really like the stiffness, I would have liked to have a preload spring to get some initial preload and some more moveability in the brakepedal
I had the pedals without loadcell for a while. Just bought the loadcell…… man it stiff. There’s barely any movement in it, but I have to press that hard the car in game is locking up. Im actually on UA-cam to see if it’s normal. I guess so. I’m only about an hr in to play time. But I’m 2 seconds a lap slower than i was . Week on Friday to practice before a league race! Aaaarrrgghhhh
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Have you used to it? Do you recommned me load cell instead of standard?
Formula brakes are supposed to be pressure sensitive. Your force level tells the system how hard to brake. You can buy polymer adjusters for the Fanatec.
@@OCRacing I’am a Mechanical Engineer Student, I love your videos. I hope I can build a rig like yours soon. I enjoy F1 and Drift simulators. Imagine racing and drifting with a keyboard. It is just a mess, but I’am progressing. I guess that’s the important part of the experience.
well I have and still testing these Pedals coming from HE Sprints, and I have to say their good! The clutch feels great be it linear, and the brake stiffness is pretty good, I had to higher the braking force of the pedals in the Fanatec software to prevent the SR10 or the 992 Porsche cup from locking, the throttle however is the weak point of these pedals. It feels dead easy to engage and very light, there is mods out there that someone can do (like elastomer mods). Overall there good for the price tag and much better than the Cammus pedal set I have tested.
Got it and tested yesterday. Vs the stock csl brake, that 60kg is stiff af. I had to double checj whether if I forgot something holding it back from being pushed lol. Not to forget the fanatec elite had a 90kg resistance. Meanwhile the expensive 100kg load cell brake from thrustmaster felt like it had no resistance at all lol.
So am I right in saying that it generally seems like a better option for me (desk and chair racer) to simply buy an extra clutch pedal and stick with the stock hall effect brake? Edit: I essentially fix my chair to one position by wedging it into the gaps between the floor tiles so it‘s all but firm
I got the CSL DD Pro with load cell add on . I hooked it up to my wheel stand and used my secret lab chair and it ended up being the worst driving experience I've ever had . I upgraded from Logitech G920 xbox wheel which all worked fine . I had to pack up the DDpro because the experience was so bad , I've now saved up and bought a Next Level Racing GT-Elite cockpit . My driving experience is now superb and I love everything about my DD Pro and load cell pedal . Next on my list is to upgrade the DD Pro power pack but I'll wait till next year as my rig is working absolutely awesome and I don't really feel that it's a must have item. Love the channel by the way - especially looking at all the viewers racing sims :)
thers ways to make your own boost pack. very easy and cheap. If you understand power draw youll understand its completely safe if done correctly. if your not a DIY er then just buy it tho lol.
Cool guide A while ago I was also looking through listings on low end loadcell pedals aswell but ended up going with a tm. Maybe do some comparison videos in the future!
Dont think the fact that it is unadjustable is an issue since it is plenty stiff enough and you can just turn down the loadcell force required in game. It would only be an issue if it was too soft. And idk how you can simrace with socks those would slide off basically all pedals.
I loved mine but have just reverted to the standard one because it stopped working after 4 weeks. It just started getting harder to register a brake effort and then stopped altogether.
Honestly not the best brake for drifting its great for f1 acc with the high end race cars that have super great brakes but require that force but when it comes to drifting and needing the fine motor skill to press just enough break to swing that back end out a bit more its a little tough to get down
I startet sim racing for a few month, with the g920 on my desk. You know the problems with that, you break and you rolling away. Isee the Videos for the break mods and i expanded the rubber. A few weeks later i saw that i love sim racing i made the deccision to buy a Raceroom RR3055. Now i think i try again with the rubber, than it is better for the muscle memory. I use to play the xbox series x because my PC is not any good. Next step i save some money to buy a good PC, than a good rig and than DD wheel with load cell breaks. I love it when things develop.
some cheap amazon, ebay, aliexpress or similiar handbrake you can find. The common ebay handbrake seems to be good, and only option for a reasonable price.
You can always map 4th gear and do the sequential trick with the Logitech shifter too. You lose the use of the shifter but you can use your paddle shifters
you would have to but a drive hub to use any handbrake on ps5 with a g293. the only other way to do it with out upgradeing is to buy a cheep handbrake add a swich to it and then wire it in to the wheel and to a swich on the wheel
I just ordered my load cell but I’ve been reading a lot of issues that once the load cell is installed the gas pedal doesn’t work. So do u need to update load cell by itself before connecting to wheel base. I’m also on ps4 just use laptop for firmware updates. I have the dd pro 5nm
Stiff is one thing, this is way above stiff, cant even make it move, ordered the 3dRAP mod to make it softer just because it's a gift otherwise i'd have refunded it
Does anybody know how to fix a fluctuating load cell brake??? I just opened these and this issue was already there 😭😭😭 it gets worse as I turn down the pressure sensitivity, if anyone knows how to fix it please help.
Its so sad they jacked up the elite pedlas and onlt added a spring snd raised it $100 whats gilarious is the old csl elite pedals for 199 you could adjust with other rubber pieces whoch would allow more throw and then more force at rhe end. Very very upsetting like very very upsetting.
@@Kylosgrande I was gonna buy the Elite v2s but the CSL's with the load cell perform as good as the V2s plus the pedals on the CSL's can be adjusted and modded easily than the V2s
@@Pichoniix ya that’s what I was thinking, I’m using the normal brake for now I gotta get better bolts to hardmount for the LC but looking forward to it!
Warning! All these UA-cam videos are great and interesting. The one thing they don’t do is inform you what their products are like to live with over a period of time. If you wish to have a happy and content life please take my advise and look at the FANATEC’s own Forum in regards to all the issues they have and their terrible customer service. I have one word to the question should you purchase FANATEC products? DONT. I would have had the same amount of problems with a real race car.. On a lighter note Im very grateful FANATEC do not build motor vehicles
@@OCRacing Had it for a little while now, I love it but I use it on the carpet as I don't have a rig. I've had to make them super sensitive as I can't press down without my chair moving or the pedal set flipping over. Despite those difficulties it's been great and they feel very good. I found that putting weights on the pedal set also help prevent flips.
Race brakes are stiff as they should be in race cars. If you are seeking realism in your racing sim experience, then one should learn how to race with a stiff brake pedal. Soft brake pedals are for street and passenger cars.
![Fanatec CSL Load Cell DIY Spring MOD [REVIEW/GUIDE] Transform the brake from meh to YEAH!](/img/n.gif)
Telling me to be prepared for a "stiff brake", I came from thrustmastet standard pedals to Asetek Invicta. I thought I was pushing a wall the first 5 hours
Did you get used to it? I cant yet
@@vsdfsdfsdfwew
I did, I even changed to the green elastometer by now.
I am quite a slender person, so at first I did the same I do when sitting in a cart which was just fully pushing my back against the seat. Using that to start I went to mostly using my leg muscles by now in a few 20 or so hours of use. I am not pushing them that far, you dont need to. I think I am at around 40-50 bar only but its more then enough as long as your muscle memory gets the gist of where your pedal needs to be for breaking.
I'm coming from a g920....I hope it isn't more stiff
@@MaggotAddict21 fir sure it is more stiff. However i found it to be a positive thing. You will have to get used to is for a few hours/days but overall they are great
@@MaggotAddict21whats your thoughts after a year?
The brake does soften slightly overtime. In my opinion as someone who upgraded from the logitech pedals, they are very much a worthy upgrade.
this all i needed to hear. I got the CSL DD 5nm with wheel and CSL Load cell pedal kit for 520. Cant wait for it to get here this next week and feel the difference from my old g920
@@str8ripn881 you wont regret it. I would recommend the 8nm addition when you get the chance too.
thinking about upgrading, how is it?@@str8ripn881
I'd like to add that if you don't have a sim rig then to mount the pedals using a piece of plywood with an overhang of wood at either end and placed up against the wall works just fine. You'll need to source some thin rubber to place at either corner to provide a little stickyness and, well it's just nicer underfoot.
Is it okay to place it against the wall with the plywood even if i have Just a wooden chair or the chair would slide?
I bought the load cell brake pedal and used it yesterday for the first time, before I had the standard couple of pedals from Fanatec, using the brake with the stiffening foam, now removed to use the same pedal as clutch.
Firs impression: the load cell pedal is WAY stiffen then before, I hardly make it move lets say for 1cm. I adapted the sensibility using the wheel base: yes this can help to not lock the wheels, but the pedal is incredibly firm and hard to use.
I then passed the whole day adapting my breaking tecnique and leg position. At the end of the day I can say I LOVE this pedal as it is more realistic and very sensitive.
I have had the the pedal set for a months now. The overall feel of the brake is good , but a bit vague when it came to trail braking. Installed the over priced 3D wrap linear elastomer and it feels great. Gives it a bit of initial take up then stiffens. For those who prefer more stiffness id suggest the progressive elastomer. I also modified my pedal set with the a set of OMP pedal faces for 25 dollars
I had the csl dd pedal set too, it's a gratis choice but with the 3drap modify it is better.
Do you have a link to the OMP pedals you used?
Everyone says you can't use them on the floor, but I found a little trick that let's me put like 80 or 90 % force without it moving much. You just have to put it against a wall or box, then pull it towards you slightly and put something hard and stiff but thin behind that back section of the load cell pedal, I just use some random little peice of wood. It doesn't move back because of the wall or box, and it barley lifts off the ground because when you put that hard force on the brake, it can't rotate because that small hard peice is there putting the force on the box and wall instead.
right. I find it unbelievable that you can't use them on the floor.
Same is said about other pedals, but I've also used t3pa and clubsport v2 pedals without much issue (for the t3pa I just needed a 0.5€ rubber mat under it, and with the cs pedals simply to not use the brake at full weight, which I dont want anyways).
Always better with a rig though
I too had the opportunity to test and review the CSL pedal with LC, they did a great job but they laughed a little more complicated disassembling the elastomer system. plus not supplying spare parts for many people was a bit tough
i now have this identical pedals set and your load cell pedals has soooo much more travel then mine
Same, came here hoping to find a way to adjust it
Regarding setting the brake force to a low settng, and trail braking; you may find you don't have much pedal travel if you set the braking force too low. Although setting it higher means you need to push harder it increases the pedal travel and gives you more control over your braking.
I had to read your comment 5 times to actually understand what you were trying to say. Maybe explain it better next time, or not at all. I know everything about these pedals and it was still difficult to understand your point. If someone just now researching these pedals reads your comment, that person will be confused as FUCK!
@@MikeTDF that's on you my guy, understood everything
@@MikeTDF that was a very clear explanation...
@@MikeTDFmaybe you're just semi retarded.
@@MikeTDF That was actually the most clearest explanation i have ever seen in my entire existence here on earth...
I've had these for about 1,5 years now. And I still don't really like the stiffness, I would have liked to have a preload spring to get some initial preload and some more moveability in the brakepedal
Honestly the defualt Break pedal is really close to my 2020 Mustang which is what I wanted to begin with so I won't upgrade becuasse of that.
my set never compressed as much as yours do, it's barely gives a centimeter of travel on full force :o
I had the pedals without loadcell for a while.
Just bought the loadcell…… man it stiff. There’s barely any movement in it, but I have to press that hard the car in game is locking up.
Im actually on UA-cam to see if it’s normal. I guess so. I’m only about an hr in to play time.
But I’m 2 seconds a lap slower than i was . Week on Friday to practice before a league race! Aaaarrrgghhhh
Have you used to it? Do you recommned me load cell instead of standard?
@ loadcel. Yes.
Fanatec. No
@@smilley792 so which load cell do you use now? Thank you for answer
@ I use simagic p1000 pedals currently. Highly recommended
Formula brakes are supposed to be pressure sensitive. Your force level tells the system how hard to brake. You can buy polymer adjusters for the Fanatec.
Men, another video? You are on fire! Also, I have never been so early, just only 5 minutes is not bad.
Not bad at all, welcome to the early gang. And yes, I’ve been off for summer break so I have more time to make videos 😅
@@OCRacing I’am a Mechanical Engineer Student, I love your videos. I hope I can build a rig like yours soon. I enjoy F1 and Drift simulators.
Imagine racing and drifting with a keyboard. It is just a mess, but I’am progressing. I guess that’s the important part of the experience.
well I have and still testing these Pedals coming from HE Sprints, and I have to say their good! The clutch feels great be it linear, and the brake stiffness is pretty good, I had to higher the braking force of the pedals in the Fanatec software to prevent the SR10 or the 992 Porsche cup from locking, the throttle however is the weak point of these pedals. It feels dead easy to engage and very light, there is mods out there that someone can do (like elastomer mods). Overall there good for the price tag and much better than the Cammus pedal set I have tested.
Got it and tested yesterday. Vs the stock csl brake, that 60kg is stiff af.
I had to double checj whether if I forgot something holding it back from being pushed lol.
Not to forget the fanatec elite had a 90kg resistance.
Meanwhile the expensive 100kg load cell brake from thrustmaster felt like it had no resistance at all lol.
The stiff brakes you get used to pretty quickly. It’s the throttle that needed an upgrade. It is so lifeless without an upgraded spring
So am I right in saying that it generally seems like a better option for me (desk and chair racer) to simply buy an extra clutch pedal and stick with the stock hall effect brake?
Edit: I essentially fix my chair to one position by wedging it into the gaps between the floor tiles so it‘s all but firm
buying this was the best deciksion i made. i had to choose between 5nm and loadcell, or 8nm wheel. i choose the loadcell, and defenetly dont regret it
@@Vico-kfh6 ah thats cool. should have waited for it, i bought the wheel 2 weeks ago
Oooooh more sim stuff I can't afford
Also love the channel 😊
One day 💪 also, thanks :)
I got the CSL DD Pro with load cell add on . I hooked it up to my wheel stand and used my secret lab chair and it ended up being the worst driving experience I've ever had . I upgraded from Logitech G920 xbox wheel which all worked fine . I had to pack up the DDpro because the experience was so bad , I've now saved up and bought a Next Level Racing GT-Elite cockpit . My driving experience is now superb and I love everything about my DD Pro and load cell pedal . Next on my list is to upgrade the DD Pro power pack but I'll wait till next year as my rig is working absolutely awesome and I don't really feel that it's a must have item. Love the channel by the way - especially looking at all the viewers racing sims :)
yeah, going high end with no good rig is gonna be a bad experience
thers ways to make your own boost pack. very easy and cheap. If you understand power draw youll understand its completely safe if done correctly. if your not a DIY er then just buy it tho lol.
dude ofc it was horrible lmao
Good video as always love your editing keep it up.
Thanks! Will do :)
Cool guide
A while ago I was also looking through listings on low end loadcell pedals aswell but ended up going with a tm.
Maybe do some comparison videos in the future!
Dont think the fact that it is unadjustable is an issue since it is plenty stiff enough and you can just turn down the loadcell force required in game. It would only be an issue if it was too soft. And idk how you can simrace with socks those would slide off basically all pedals.
No need for a mod. It softens heaps over time. Either that or i'm just used to it. Easy to trail brake with. I love it
"Major surprise" oh yes. Change from t3pa is a huge difference. Thinking about returning it back
I loved mine but have just reverted to the standard one because it stopped working after 4 weeks. It just started getting harder to register a brake effort and then stopped altogether.
Honestly not the best brake for drifting its great for f1 acc with the high end race cars that have super great brakes but require that force but when it comes to drifting and needing the fine motor skill to press just enough break to swing that back end out a bit more its a little tough to get down
The question is, these or the moza srp's for the fella on a budget?
I startet sim racing for a few month, with the g920 on my desk. You know the problems with that, you break and you rolling away. Isee the Videos for the break mods and i expanded the rubber. A few weeks later i saw that i love sim racing i made the deccision to buy a Raceroom RR3055. Now i think i try again with the rubber, than it is better for the muscle memory. I use to play the xbox series x because my PC is not any good. Next step i save some money to buy a good PC, than a good rig and than DD wheel with load cell breaks. I love it when things develop.
Brakes, brakes, brakes, brakes, brakes 👍
I get more movement from the rig flex than the pedal itself 😭
Do you know what a good handbrake that would be compatible with a Logitech g293 and and a ps5
Obokindly, around 300$ tho
some cheap amazon, ebay, aliexpress or similiar handbrake you can find. The common ebay handbrake seems to be good, and only option for a reasonable price.
You can always map 4th gear and do the sequential trick with the Logitech shifter too. You lose the use of the shifter but you can use your paddle shifters
you would have to but a drive hub to use any handbrake on ps5 with a g293. the only other way to do it with out upgradeing is to buy a cheep handbrake add a swich to it and then wire it in to the wheel and to a swich on the wheel
I just ordered my load cell but I’ve been reading a lot of issues that once the load cell is installed the gas pedal doesn’t work. So do u need to update load cell by itself before connecting to wheel base. I’m also on ps4 just use laptop for firmware updates. I have the dd pro 5nm
i have a question can i use thrustmaster tp3a pedals with this?
Stiff is one thing, this is way above stiff, cant even make it move, ordered the 3dRAP mod to make it softer just because it's a gift otherwise i'd have refunded it
Does anybody know how to fix a fluctuating load cell brake??? I just opened these and this issue was already there 😭😭😭 it gets worse as I turn down the pressure sensitivity, if anyone knows how to fix it please help.
0:51 "okaaay lets go" easter egg/secret/whatever
Hold up, what h-pattern shifter are you using and will that setup work with gt7?
I wanna buy it but I think I’ll save up some more money first good vid oc!
Let me know when you do! Cheers :)
02:08 Exactly what were you doing there with the pedals being pressed like that 🤔
Downshifting
heel'n'toeing thats who you downshift with some stick shift manual cars
Its so sad they jacked up the elite pedlas and onlt added a spring snd raised it $100 whats gilarious is the old csl elite pedals for 199 you could adjust with other rubber pieces whoch would allow more throw and then more force at rhe end. Very very upsetting like very very upsetting.
Im a kid, do you think i could push these pedals down a tiny bit after a few days or hours?
Yes, it just takes a bit to get used to
tsx pedals or g29 pedals?
Will this kit fit the old csl elite pedals (the all black ones)? Or will it only fit the new csl pedals?
Only the new
@@OCRacing thanx! I’m screwed then haha I’ll have to buy the new pedals and get rid of my csl elite ones just to get the clucth lol
Do you think the V2 is worth the extra cash?
No
@@Pichoniix thanks just bought the csl pedals
@@Kylosgrande I was gonna buy the Elite v2s but the CSL's with the load cell perform as good as the V2s plus the pedals on the CSL's can be adjusted and modded easily than the V2s
@@Pichoniix ya that’s what I was thinking, I’m using the normal brake for now I gotta get better bolts to hardmount for the LC but looking forward to it!
2nd, never been so early, biggest achievement 😆 🤣
Congratulations. Looking forward to the day you’re first 🤝
im used to my dad's set of $400+ pedals that go up to 100+kg so i dont mind the stiffness
Nice but i sat on it and it barely moved 😂😂
Warning!
All these UA-cam videos are great and interesting. The one thing they don’t do is inform you what their products are like to live with over a period of time.
If you wish to have a happy and content life please take my advise and look at the FANATEC’s own Forum in regards to all the issues they have and their terrible customer service.
I have one word to the question should you purchase FANATEC products? DONT.
I would have had the same amount of problems with a real race car..
On a lighter note Im very grateful FANATEC do not build motor vehicles
Im planning to purchase the new csl elite v2 pedals,do you advise me to do that or no?
I just bought one lmao
Let me know your thoughts on it!
@@OCRacing Had it for a little while now, I love it but I use it on the carpet as I don't have a rig. I've had to make them super sensitive as I can't press down without my chair moving or the pedal set flipping over. Despite those difficulties it's been great and they feel very good. I found that putting weights on the pedal set also help prevent flips.
The whole pedal assembly is flexing under you hitting the brake. Seems very unnatural
Race brakes are stiff as they should be in race cars. If you are seeking realism in your racing sim experience, then one should learn how to race with a stiff brake pedal. Soft brake pedals are for street and passenger cars.
Yep, these girls don't know nothing
Only 60kg 🥴
It’s looks much less stiffer than the lcd elite 😂
Heel & toe …. Nearly as bad a sennas
Technic do 50 laps doing it and 50 without bet your faster not doing it
Thank me later