Exactly, I just got mine a week ago and I've just learned how to smoothly trail brake and gas it right after to continue the angle after you got the apex. Now I just got to get it consistently lol
true up to a point. once you get into the high end pedals, they come full circle and go back to a really big spring. it seems like they should just put in a heavy spring in the low end kits.
A firmer spring will help on a linear brake. But it's not the same. In the end, you still have a different type of sensor input, and the load cell is always much better.
Question. Wouldn’t the force you apply in a load cell be directly related to the distance? In other words, how is it different than a linear pedal in the sense that the distance will always be the same? For example, if I but a linear pedal at 50% distance, doesn’t that always require the same force? And vise versa, wouldn’t plying the same amount of force on a load cell always equate to the same distance? How do these yield different results? Thanks
Say, If I exchanged the spring with a solid rod. The pedal may not have any movement (or very little, as the load cell does flex when under stress), but the load cell is still weighing the pressure as I press into the pedal and applying braking. As I said, not distance, it's about the resistance of weight you feel. Usually, load cell brakes don't have a pure spring setup like the T-LCM brake, so it's probably not the best example. Stiffer materials are normally used that reduces the pedal movement, and a strong progressive sensation of resistance. You can watch my T-LCM brake review here ua-cam.com/video/6kbG5pyjlxg/v-deo.html, and my follow-up modding video here ua-cam.com/video/OmA11LLa9Yo/v-deo.html.
Ive just upgraded from G29 to Fanatec dd pro with load cell. I modded my G29 as much as i could without actually replacing it, So different spring, added a rubber block and adjusted the distance required in game, Now, this helped muscle memory find the correct pressure, more or less, for heavy braking, But what it didn’t do is improve any trail braking or fine precision braking, because well, it’s still measuring based on distance of pedal travel. There is nothing for my body to remember because I can’t ‘feel’ it.
@@robertulrich3964 throttling is a little different, i added a stiffer spring to that for finesse, but you have a clear signals from the throttle, sound of revs, visuals of trajectory, feel of oversteer/understeer which help regulate.
@@cloric1 correct. load cell is over rated as hell, in end they todo exact same thing and it will outputs the data to the game from 0% to 100%, difference only the pressure , with load cell it possible make harder without add heavy spring
I can’t get mine figured out, I race mostly on dirt with my LCM’s and sometimes I can literally stomp on the brakes and it’s doing nothing. Anyone know what I’m doing wrong? I can race a different car at the same track (like a winged sprint) and the brakes work fine as it doesn’t take much to get them turned but the modifieds and big block mods you have to have heavier brakes to get them rotated but they seem like it’s not picking it up even though I’m stomping on the pedals. What gives?
Is it fine to get a starter set with hal sensor breaks (looking at moza r5) and replace the springs with stronger ones and maybe adjust the sensor curve with software?
@@SimRacingCorner casual assetto corsa (god bless the modders 😂) and beamng. Tho ive seen a 60€ load cell mod for the R5 pedals wich might be worth it instead of going for an entire new pedal set
@@SimRacingCorner actually if i ultimately get this i guess im also gonna get some of the money back by selling my current G29. Thats still a good starter wheel for the price. Probs gonna keep an eye on the R5 for a while when the biggest sale is. My guess is around black friday or christmas
For all my 3 years i have had pedals it was never load cell. First it was the cheap Logitech ones and right now its fanatec, and i just feel like it wont do what i ask of it like I can't be accurate when i need to be its very difficult. Any tips on what are the best value for money load cell pedals i can get?
@@SimRacingCorner everything about those pedals seem and look great but I have a specific requirement. So the way I set up where my pedals are is I have them on a wood floor with a stick mat on it and my pedals have rubber under it so it stops it moving (most of the time.) I can't really have this any other way so I was wondering if these pedals can work with that setup or not. Also my budget is actually around £150 and I was shocked how cheap the pedals you recommended are.
@@JamesSheldonUnofficial I wouldn't say these would be a good choice for your setup. It sounds like the MOZA SR-P pedals would make more sense. ua-cam.com/video/CeyjMPPDpOU/v-deo.html
Load cell is easier to be broken than magnetic sensor one, I don't understand why don't they use a magnetic sensor and put a thing that gives progressive resistance to your foot(further it goes harder ut gets, just like a car brake) and program the magnetic sensor to match the load cells so it is going to be last very long.
Load cells are durable, I've never had one fail. It's impossible to imitate the sensitivity of input that a load cell provides with the alternative you describe.
I think for me the best thing about load cell is that it makes trail braking feel so much more natural and intuitive. Great video as always.
Great point!
Exactly, I just got mine a week ago and I've just learned how to smoothly trail brake and gas it right after to continue the angle after you got the apex. Now I just got to get it consistently lol
true up to a point. once you get into the high end pedals, they come full circle and go back to a really big spring. it seems like they should just put in a heavy spring in the low end kits.
Thank you for the simple/direct/useful explanation.
Glad it was helpful!
Mad thanks for the consise video 👌 good explanation and thanks for not spending 20 mins to explain something that could be done in 6 😅♥️
Perfect break down! Happy holidays to you, your family and of course, sim cat :)
Thank you! 😺 And to you too! 🎁
Guess you can say it was a “brake” down :p
@@PR1NCETD0T nice one 😄
Best explanation. nice work!
Very well explained!!! Thank you!!!!
wouldnt a non load cell pedal feel kinda the same by adding a heavier spring or multiple short different load springs to give that muscle memory?
A firmer spring will help on a linear brake. But it's not the same. In the end, you still have a different type of sensor input, and the load cell is always much better.
It's the same because high high end braking pedals have a big heavy spring in it. Full circle.
Question. Wouldn’t the force you apply in a load cell be directly related to the distance? In other words, how is it different than a linear pedal in the sense that the distance will always be the same? For example, if I but a linear pedal at 50% distance, doesn’t that always require the same force? And vise versa, wouldn’t plying the same amount of force on a load cell always equate to the same distance? How do these yield different results? Thanks
Say, If I exchanged the spring with a solid rod. The pedal may not have any movement (or very little, as the load cell does flex when under stress), but the load cell is still weighing the pressure as I press into the pedal and applying braking. As I said, not distance, it's about the resistance of weight you feel. Usually, load cell brakes don't have a pure spring setup like the T-LCM brake, so it's probably not the best example. Stiffer materials are normally used that reduces the pedal movement, and a strong progressive sensation of resistance.
You can watch my T-LCM brake review here ua-cam.com/video/6kbG5pyjlxg/v-deo.html, and my follow-up modding video here ua-cam.com/video/OmA11LLa9Yo/v-deo.html.
Ive just upgraded from G29 to Fanatec dd pro with load cell.
I modded my G29 as much as i could without actually replacing it,
So different spring, added a rubber block and adjusted the distance required in game,
Now, this helped muscle memory find the correct pressure, more or less, for heavy braking,
But what it didn’t do is improve any trail braking or fine precision braking, because well, it’s still measuring based on distance of pedal travel.
There is nothing for my body to remember because I can’t ‘feel’ it.
@@cloric1 same could be said for the gas pedal.
@@robertulrich3964 throttling is a little different, i added a stiffer spring to that for finesse, but you have a clear signals from the throttle, sound of revs, visuals of trajectory, feel of oversteer/understeer which help regulate.
@@cloric1 correct. load cell is over rated as hell, in end they todo exact same thing and it will outputs the data to the game from 0% to 100%, difference only the pressure , with load cell it possible make harder without add heavy spring
Thank you. Great work!
I love the T-LCMs. Love the different spring combos. Don’t see myself upgrading at all. As far as pedals are concerned
I have the T3PA. Is it worth the upgrade to T-LCM?
I’ve never had the T3pa I came from Logitech pedals and I say yes absolutely
im, very mid at sim racing. i got a load cell and dd wheel base and my lap times got significant better!
I can’t get mine figured out, I race mostly on dirt with my LCM’s and sometimes I can literally stomp on the brakes and it’s doing nothing. Anyone know what I’m doing wrong? I can race a different car at the same track (like a winged sprint) and the brakes work fine as it doesn’t take much to get them turned but the modifieds and big block mods you have to have heavier brakes to get them rotated but they seem like it’s not picking it up even though I’m stomping on the pedals.
What gives?
Is it fine to get a starter set with hal sensor breaks (looking at moza r5) and replace the springs with stronger ones and maybe adjust the sensor curve with software?
It depends on what racing games you intend to run, and whether you're a casual racer or someone more serious into this hobby.
@@SimRacingCorner casual assetto corsa (god bless the modders 😂) and beamng. Tho ive seen a 60€ load cell mod for the R5 pedals wich might be worth it instead of going for an entire new pedal set
@@michagrill9432 That sounds like a good plan.
@@SimRacingCorner actually if i ultimately get this i guess im also gonna get some of the money back by selling my current G29. Thats still a good starter wheel for the price. Probs gonna keep an eye on the R5 for a while when the biggest sale is. My guess is around black friday or christmas
For all my 3 years i have had pedals it was never load cell. First it was the cheap Logitech ones and right now its fanatec, and i just feel like it wont do what i ask of it like I can't be accurate when i need to be its very difficult. Any tips on what are the best value for money load cell pedals i can get?
I would recommend these ua-cam.com/video/ZPUvVQ_qq0g/v-deo.html
@@SimRacingCorner ty
@@SimRacingCorner everything about those pedals seem and look great but I have a specific requirement. So the way I set up where my pedals are is I have them on a wood floor with a stick mat on it and my pedals have rubber under it so it stops it moving (most of the time.) I can't really have this any other way so I was wondering if these pedals can work with that setup or not. Also my budget is actually around £150 and I was shocked how cheap the pedals you recommended are.
@@JamesSheldonUnofficial I wouldn't say these would be a good choice for your setup. It sounds like the MOZA SR-P pedals would make more sense. ua-cam.com/video/CeyjMPPDpOU/v-deo.html
@@SimRacingCorner thank you I would probably never found those on my own
Load cell is easier to be broken than magnetic sensor one, I don't understand why don't they use a magnetic sensor and put a thing that gives progressive resistance to your foot(further it goes harder ut gets, just like a car brake) and program the magnetic sensor to match the load cells so it is going to be last very long.
Load cells are durable, I've never had one fail. It's impossible to imitate the sensitivity of input that a load cell provides with the alternative you describe.
Very good vieo ,just missing one thing ....Sim Cat .
She was probably napping at the time, after a hard day of napping.