@@thanos9240 what you said made no sense. The only reason negative energy was in that dragon ball was granting too many wishes but it was a bit pure due to Grandpa Gohan and Goku taking care of it
The Shadow Dragons concept is just amazing. Shenron is the perfect final villain, the name of the show (Dragon Ball) is about the mystical dragons after all.
All the wishes that are responsible for these dragons: Syn: Reviving everyone on Namek that was killed by Frieza and his soldiers. Haze: Reviving Bora. Eis: Either reviving Evil King Piccolo's and his minion's victims or erasing Majin Buu from people's memories. Nuova: Evil King Piccolo getting his youth back. Rage: Reviving Goku to battle Vegeta and Nappa. Oceanus: Oolong wishing for a pair of panties from a "hot babe". Naturon: Reviving Majin Vegeta's victims. additionally, if you take the first letter from each of these characters. They would spell 'SHENRON" Thank you again for watching, and supporting the channel.
I have the theory these dragons were supossed to be far more powerful. Their power was supossed to increase with time and would eventually become destructive cosmic entities kinda like Buu. Goku could beat them because he fought them too early and were esentially newborns. I mean, the first one couldn't even transform yet the last ones were a closer match.
Makes sense. They were supposed to be punishment for overusing the dragon balls. Would make sense if that punishment would be something like “the end of mankind” across the galaxy, since man was the one overusing the dragon balls
I honestly didn't view any of the Shenrons as being "powerful" outside of Omega, Nova, and Eis. The other four more or less had strong "side abilities" such as power sapping pollution, absorbing traits and abilities, or having control of the winds and sea. Nova and Eis were strong with good abilities, where as Omega was a culmination of them all with ungodly strength
They only thing that's off is power level super sayin 4 is equal to super sayin blue form so or super saying ascension form the red hair and that power level is at highest is 10 million 1 million ascending into god power and 10 million for blue form I think kio ken 100 times is power level 10 mill and 500 thousand ultra instinct on usage is not a power level but a transformation it's more of a amplifier so god power is amp x 2 given his power level A total of 40 mill when vegeta get his destruction power blue blue evolution he may be passed goku ultra instinct but I know for a fact on a raw scale level vegeta got to be at 15 mil by his self because evolution blue have had to rise his power level up another few millions jirens power level is at a rough 30 mill on his own plus push our rage 45 mill another 15 but what was crazy I don't believe that was jiren ceilings he has the potential to reveal all goes of destruction
Goku black is the strongest that do cover the whole universe and kill each god of destruction Edit: anyone replying to this, i was a kid and didn’t know shit, and i don’t care no more
@@Deew0244 Actually Goku Black was weaker compared to a destruction God he probably killed all the kaioshins as the kaioshin and destruction Gods are a set
Agree but Goku Black (Zamasu) and Merged Zamasu all that together Best Villain of DB franchise DBGT and DBS both have Good things and Bad things and they can't be compared to Classic DB and DBZ but they have the best things ever created... DBGT - SSJ4 best Super Saiyan form ever created DBS - Goku Black (Zamasu), Merged Zamasu best villain ever created
The concept of evil shenron was so good, and it made perfect sense for shenron to be the final villain since the show is named after dragonballs, but the execution sucked so bad. I'll be happy if super uses the same concept with super dragonballs for the final villain of super.
Hasn't Super ripped off its predecessors enough? It stole the Super Saiyan God ritual from when Gohan, Goten, Pan, and I think Uub gave power to Goku to fight Syn, U3's God of Destruction looks a lot like Lord Luud, who was Dragonball's first real God of Destruction (the term was used a lot before, but Luud was the only one to be worshipped like a God), and I'm convinced Golden Frieza was taken from Golden Nuova. And that just GT. A good amount of the U6 characters are reskins of U7 characters, Kale is Rule 63 Broly and even used some of the original LSSJ's lines (obviously changed a bit to make the obvious rip off a bit less obvious) and performed some of the moves he did in his 1st movie, and I'm pretty sure Cell did the whole "Tournament to decide the fate of the world" thing before the Tournament of Power. Also, Turles was the first evil Goku. The concept of the Shadow Dragons may have been good, but putting it in Super would only show that Super can't stand on its own 2 feet. That and they already made Pan WORSE than she was in GT. At least she occasionally did stuff back then. Now she's nothing but a comic relief toddler.
+Denzel Rozier +Denzel Rozier Wow that was so stupid 😂 Most of the things in Gt were originial designs of toriyama himself, so you cant 'rip off' yourself. Also i dont care if it actually copies stuff from gt as long as they do it right. Its One show, it not like they are taking stuff from another show. And no they didnt copy the ssj god ritual, that was done before too when goku fought broly and the concept of sharing energy was always there. And U3s god is clearly a reference to Gt. Everything you are saying so obvious, like ofcourse kale is a broly copy, i mean THATS THE POINT !! And the tournaments were the main part of db franchise, the only way to make the tournaments more intersting is to raise the stakes, so what cell did wasnt anything too unique. And turles wasnt evil goku, the concept of evil goku is very basic and simple, anyone can come up with it, turles was just a guy who happened to look like goku, just like how bardock looks exactly like goku and goten too, in super that was actually gokus body, whats important is that the execution is good. And gt had some great concepts and in okay with super using some of them again but in the right way, since gt never happens, its not like the same events are happening again for the characters. And how the fuck did super make pan WORSE ? Her story hasnt even starter yet, she is much younger than gt version, there something called character development, ofcourse pan will be funny and cute, shes a fucking toddler, do you expect her to start screaming and get jacked like the other characters 😂
So your problem it that theres a scene in both gt and super where the characters held hands and shared energy ? ok. I can agree with you one kale for now. I was very disappointed by kale in super, i was expecting her to be better than broly tbh, but for now she's not. But her story isnt over yet, the lgssj in super was only in one episode so im gonna give kale some time and see what they do with her. Again the story of the universal arc isnt over yet. Im pretty sure htat there was a good reason for the tournament. Zeno was already going to destroy the 8 universes no matter what. Im sure there is something going on which we havent seen yet so no point in judging it yet. I was worried about frieza coming back as i wanted to see buu fight, bu after the latest episode im very interested in seeing what they do with frieza, that one episode was better than the whole ROF plot tbh. Goku blacks execution was pretty great. Its one of the best stories in dragonball series since the cell game and frieza saga, in my opinion. Turles was non canon and he was pretty boring and lame, and black in 100 times better than him in every way. Turles was just another cliche bad guy and he looked like goku, thats it, there was no similarity between the two. Black on the other hand had a purpose. He is the only villain after frieza who actually did what he said he would. Zamasu taking gokus body and killin his own family with that face, then mimicking gokus moves was much better than what ginyu and turles ever did. And if you have a problem with that then you should also have a problem with baby taking over vageta. Not only was that the same as ginyu but that was the 3rd time vageta went evil again. The last part is so stupid that i dnt even wanna reply. So pan sucks in super because she is not doing anything in the show, and she rather not exist ? ok what ??? So by that amazing logic, gohan should've never existed because at one point he was just a whiny little kid who was always getting into trouble and getting kidnapped. Chichi shouldnt exist because she does nothing, Satan shouldnt exist because he IS a comic relief character. Yamcha, tien , yajarobie, puar, master roshi, oolong, korin, popo, dende, shouldnt exist cause they literally dont do shit anymore. (Now they're doing it, but im just using your logic). Even UUB should never exist cause he's not even in the show yet. Pan is literally only in 4 or 5 episodes in super at this point and she is a FUCKING TODDLER, LIKE WHAT DO YOU EXPECT HER TO DO ??? We're not even at the end of Z episode yet. This argument make syou other arguments look super weak man.
just end the argument already. How can a toddler be anything more than a comic relief, i dont understand, shes even younger than gohan was in Z. And she did show her potential, she, blew up a space ship and started flying in the stratosphere, and was able to lift 3 kid sized adults who were only holding on to her right foot. I think you missed than episode. No pan is not a comic relief character, you literally have no idea how character development works, you just said that gohan was whiny in the start but became a better fighter later on, and that happens over the course of 2 arcs, yet pan was only around for 4-5 episodes, and she is a fucking toddler, like how the hell do i even explain it to you, A TODDLER WHO WAS ONLY IN 4 EPISODES IS BEING COMPARED BY A CHARACTER WHO HAS HAD AN ENTIRE SERIES TO DEVELOP xD Thats dumb af bro. The kale part is an obvious homage to broly. And just because a character doesnt do what you like doesnt mean they shouldnt exist, hell pan doesnt even have to be a fighter, if shes not a brat and spoiled she'll be 10 times better than the garbage pan was in gt. And saying a movie villain who is so forgettable that people remembers him after black goku was introduced, is better than black is just absurd. Black was better than all of gt villains and some of Z villains too. Black beat goku and vageta multiple times, something only he has been able to do, and by the end it took zeno to take care of him. The tournament didnt even start yet and you think cells tournament is better, lol you're just making shit up now.
@Goddamn 47 i watched GT 2 years ago i'm not blinded by shit you're just blinded by a retarded hate train you're the guy that needs to get over something gt wasn't executed poorly accept it and i don't need to bring up super's shortcomings to justify anything because GT was good in it's own right and doesn't need to be justified
They really should make a new set of shadow dragons for super's finale, maybe a omega shenron from the super dragonballs which are even more powerful then the gods (besides few like zeno). I mean the shadow dragon plot is the perfect end of dragon ball. What do the Z fighters do when the thing they've relied on since episode 1 turned against them? It's the perfect end
For all who are wondering or just looking for this list here ya go: 1 star: Syn Shenron 2 star: Haze Shenron 3 star: Eis Shenron 4 star: Nuova Shenron 5 star: Rage Shenron 6 star: Oceanus Shenron 7 star: Naturon Shenron
Goku took care of the 4 star dragon Ball to remind him of his Grandpa. It was also seen on gohan's hat when he was small. The very same dragon Ball stored the negetive energy of wishing back piccolo to save planet namek and the shenron that came out of it was honourable and also helped Goku in his fight against omega. In the last scene, special attention to the 4 star is given as it is absorbed into Goku. I love the consistency in all the seasons. Makes the anime very wholesome and complete to me
GT gets attention, just in the forms of Bebi, ssj4, and later half of shadow dragons. the rest gets shit on for being to focused on Goku, weird power scaling and terrible arcs like rildo and 17. Honestly if it had just done two fairly long arcs of just Bebi and the dragons it prolly would have done well. if they focused on other characters a little more that would have helped as well. People also have issues with how pan acts so childish but that comes from the dub making her older then she in the sub.
1. Nuova: he was a fire dragon and looked badass 2. Syn: he seemed very powerful and intimidating 3. Eis: ice dragon that was cool looking but got his ass handed to him. Oceanus: it was kinda cool 5. Rage: he was electric 6. Haze: just stupid 7. Nateron: his true form, a f!#$@*& shadow dragon ball is as strong as radditz the FIRST dbz villain where you can grow him
Just noticed each Shadow Dragon is named after a element they use like Naturon is nature/ Earth Oceanus use water etc. The little things in GT that one may overlook so easily.
***** haze is smoke and dust particuls in the air and often pollution. It's not air it's self. Haze just sucks up air to inflate him self but that's all he did. Apparent he has the power to cause pollution witch hence why he's called haze Also syn before he became omega shenron is the only shadow dragon that's not associated with any elements
Rage may reflect to all the rage that Saiyans had to turn into SSJ, or just Goku, since his SSJ transformation had a lot of lightning, and that kind of makes sence since GT is all about Goku, and maybe Pan and Trunks, but the rest is about Goku.
Ultimate Mighty Goku rage was created because master roshi used the dragon balls to revive goku. Also super saiyain 2 only have electricity sparks. Rage having the ability to use and absorb electricity does not relate to goku's super saiyan form, that's pure coincidence. He posses no other relation to goku especially their personalities. The dragon that had some sort of similarity to goku was nuova shenron who faught with honor and was kind to goku unlike the rest of the shadow dragons and ies being the total opposite twin of nuova
some of these ideas are better than Super....GT makes the Dragon balls centered, Super didn't...and Super doesn't have main villian unlike GT there are Baby and S.H.E.N.R.O.N
@@leultrainstinct406 ?? Your childish Super has no ideas it's went from finding dragon balls to getting new hair dye what you think db comes in db super kids?
for all the people raging that gt doesnt have power levels he said in the disclaimer not to take these numbers seriously because they are unofficial estimates
I loved gt, the show and the movie was awesome, I don't care what anyone says, I am well aware that just about everybody and their pet unicorn hates the hell out dragon Ball gt, me, I absolutely positively loved it, take your hatred for gt to another universe or someplace please
Gt has problems but so does every dragon ball series I loved the shadow dragons Super saiyan 4 Majuub And super 17 eveb though his saga was like 4 episodes
I hated the USA version, but able to watching JP version that made a difference for me. Pan is less annoying with the voice actor so I was fine by that. And i also hated kid goku. They shouldn't have done that
I agree it was entertaining but I hated the ending and I'm glad none of this is saga is true because if it was well shit because I hate how the dragon balls don't work in the end and super sayian 4 looked stupid honestly
@@latintiger super isn’t trash I mean it did lack some original ideas and concepts and had to bring back old villains and basically do recolors of transformations but it’s not bad
Also a nice thing I picked up somewhere was that Nuova and Eis Shenron are a reflection of Goku and Raditz while one of them wants to fight and is a fair and honest person the other one is a coward who deploys cheap tactics to defeat his opponent at all costs
GT had excellent concepts and almost all the villains were frikkin badass! Baby Vegeta, General Rildo, that giant destroyer baby robot, Super 17 and finally the Shadow dragons... All were victims of awful execution.
It would be awesome if they appeared in Super but were more fleshed out. In concept they rock and it's interesting for the Dragon Balls to have a down side.
Super has four sets of Dragon Balls. There is a random planet with a Namekian where there are only two balls the size of ping pong balls. Could even be more.
Hate on GT but it had original ideas, and tried to give Z an adequate continuation. Even Trunks and Goten are teenagers, super is recycled garbage meant for a quick buck knowing people will tune in. SSJ4 > ssg
Baby and the Shadow Dragons were pretty original. But super 17 was pretty much super android 13 and the black star saga was meant to be a throwback to the original dragon ball but it seemed much more boring.
@@rayankhan3858 Lets look at super... They brought back the pilaf gang for what reason? Future trunks AND frieza AGAIN?? Another tournament ?? Android17 ?? The characters were lazy and poorly animated. Compare all of their gay ass looking kais to the ones in Z, they had winnie the pooh for fucks sake. The blue transformation was made because it was easier to animate and the list goes on... super is garbage even comparing to GT. SSJ4 > ssb
@@consumedbydeceit5942 The problem with Super is that there are simply no stakes. In Z it genuinely felt like yo if they lose to Frieza/Cell/Buu the universe is finished. In Super if there is an issue it's an Earth problem Beerus+Whis have the Universe covered. Heck even Broly was like nothing to Whis. They tried to fix this in TOP but I mean most of the characters were heroic so they probably would have wished everyone back to life so it really wasn't a surprise, plus no killing in the tournament lessened those stakes as well. Literally the only part where I was worried about a character was when Anilaza was trying to eat 18. Also in Super everyone has dropped about 20 IQ points. Goku's retarded, Frieza was so scared of SSJ maybe if he hit the gym for like a weekend he would have crushed it. Apparently the potara rings aren't permanent which means what's the difference in the fusions? Trunks coming for help and literally left crying because Zamasu was the sky? The idea that Goten+Trunks would do worse in a fight compared to Tien. Buu "always sleeping" simply because he's too OP. Transformations? SSG, SSB is just a colour swaps from SSJ. The Kaioken Blue, Royal Blue and UI are pretty cool though. At least in Super other characters get to shine, whereas in GT it was just "Goku time" the others were basically a waste of space/a burden right until Vegeta got a SSJ4 transformation at the v.end, even then it was simply to fuse with Goku he didn't do anything by himself. GT the space stuff was dumb esp. since Frieza was established as the de-facto strongest so the idea of an "adventure" with Goku was ridiculous. If they had made it so as a kid he couldn't transform (or hold it like SSJ3) then might have made it more interesting. Pan+that robot was fucking annoying as well. Super Android 17 was stupid as well. The Dragons however were genuinely interesting and is well worth re-visiting the idea that DB shouldn't be abused. SSJ4 was an epic transformation the idea of Oozaru going SSJ was always what I thought the legendary SSJ should have been.
@@consumedbydeceit5942 super might have been better if they brought Cooler into Canon instead of freeza. As for future Trunks, just have an ova showing Babidi and Dabura coming to earth and entering into conflict with trunks. Also they could have made the tuffle creations like baby and hatchiyak Canon
Eric Gamer yeah I did, and the question is why put MADE-UP power levels, to stir up the comments? I came to the video just to see the dragons, not the powerlevel
this is true, we can already tell how stronge each dragon is based on their fights with goku and the title specificly says all forms and transformations of the shadow dragons. the made up power levels were not necessary and only made things confusing and started arguments. POWER LEVEL SCALING IS NO LONGER A THING ANYMORE
Honestly the Shadow Dragon saga was really good. A saga that finally having the Dragon Ball as it's main topic. It also have a Super Saiyan transformations that finally not just changing hair color with semi Giant Ape design. Imagine if we see this in Super Dragon Ball animation
You can’t tell me the shadow dragons are not the reason Toriyama thought of the gods of destruction. Twin brothers Eis and Nuova just like Beerus and Champa and they’re all universally strong and all connected through the same source
Richard Löwenherz no...it's not. It does not have a manga and it does not tie into the story anymore the DBS now being a thing. It was all filler in the first place
SickHead thats irelevant. GT was made as the Continuation of Z without a Manga because Akira was lazy to make another one like he always said. GT is Anime Canonity. If DB would have an official Canon, there would be two seperate Canon. Manga And Anime. Interview mit Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru aus der Dragon Ball Anime Illustration Collection: The Golden Warrior Nakatsuru: "GT" wurde als Fortsetzung konzipiert... Nakatsuru: “GT” was made as a continuation... www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/golden_warrior-katsuyoshi_nakatsuru/ This is official and no fan canon shit: HERMS “Yamamuro simply says that story-wise Super Saiyan 4 "comes after" Super Saiyan God, because GT takes place later than RF. He says nothing at all about strength. Then he's asked about whether Toriyama has said GT isn't really a continuation of the DB series. Yamamuro responds that story-wise GT is connected, but it has some characteristics of a spin-off, and was not part of Toriyama's manga. There's no mention throughout throughout any of this of Super, just the film RF, GT, and the manga.“ m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1567425740045810&id=485186948269700 With the Dragon Ball Kanzenban, the series will be garnering new fans. And being fans, I think they will probably want to see some new Dragon Ball Z. How about it, Sensei - why not make a new animated work once a year or so? Toriyama: Ah, I’d like to see that. Nakatsuru: But in the final chapter, Goku’s getting pretty old. And what happens to him after is already covered in the anime-original Dragon Ball GT. Still, Goku is the main character, after all. If you’re going to make a new story without any difficulty, you’ll have to rewind time a bit, and tell a story from somewhere in the past, or something… Toriyama: I agree. Rather than continuing on strangely into the future, or digging deeper, I’d rather develop it with something like a separate episode, going back in time to say, “there was such-and-such a story, involving such-and-such an opponent”. As in, it wasn’t in the comic, but this kind of thing also happened. I think that’d probably be better. www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/son-goku-densetsu-toriyama-x-nakatsuru/
Nuova Shenron is the only Shadow Dragon that shown honorable villain and a worthy opponent of Goku for some reasons. 1) He is the 4-Star Dragon Ball which was a family heirloom of both Grandpa Gohan and Goku since this was the first Dragon Ball that appear in the first episode and the first one acquired by Goku. 2) He was not cocky and arrogant character but remain as stoic and terrifying villain. 3) His final form was Golden Form(Golden Frieza who?) was his TRUE form. Plus, he transforms that form without a fit of rage nor power up. 4) He challenge Goku to prove if he was a worthy opponent and turned out, he was right as Goku did fought him in his base form, despite some comedic moments. And lastly, 5) He transforms into Golden Form as Goku requested and Goku also transform into Super Saiyan 4, his primal true form before they fight for another round. Heck, he even help Goku against Omega Shenron. Of all of Shadow Dragons aside Syn/Omega Shenron as the Thanos of Dragon Ball series, Nuova Shenron is by far my favorite Shadow Dragon.
Ignoring the odd parts of GT Baby, Super 17(okay he's a bit ify), and the Shenrons were the best things to come out of it. I wouldn't mind the Shadow Dragons appearing in Super in some form. The Shadow Dragons are certainly great in concept.
Pan WAS the biggest failure of GT. For someone who is the offspring of Gohan, a fighter with a lot of underused potential, and Videl, someone who likes fighting, you'd think Pan would be the next-gen Teen Gohan. But unfortunately, GT was Goku Time, and all she did was talk shit, provide comic relief, and give Goku a reason to fuck people up. On the bright side, Pan never had any moments of glory, so she's not as big a disappointment as her father, someone who would've been the strongest fighter pre-Gods if he didn't slack off after Cell.
So my fanon: Shadow Shenron, the first one, was in fact the real Shenron corrupted by the evil wishes. Also, while normal Shenron normally grants wishes, instead Shadow Shenron can use them for himself. Funny enough he got two wishes, his first one was the cigar because he wanted to smoke (sounds like a total waste, but with how some of the wishes are quite small and silly, it only makes sense he's use one for something frivolous), his second wish was what made the seven other dragons, he wished to cause humanity destruction, since normally Shenron's body can only survive outside of the Dragon Balls for so long. He couldn't actually grant a wish to live outside the balls because technically its a wish that is more powerful than himself (if he could already exist outside the balls, then he wouldn't have needed to use the wish in the first place), so instead when his body split up, each of the individual balls could summon a dragon of their own that could continue to exist beyond his summoning.
The Shadow Dragon could maybe represent the 7 deadly sins Syn: Wrath Haze: Envy (I think) Eis: Pride Nuova: Sloth (I think) Rage: Gluttony (I also think) Oceanus: Lust Naturon: Greed
Rage would be Wrath (it's his name afterall) Haze would be Sloth (since his power weakens opponents) Eis would be Envy (sibling rivalry, and only a jealous person would fight dirty) Sin would be Gluttony (representing the gluttonous misuse of the dragonballs; he even says it to Goku) Nuova would be Pride (showing how pride can be both good and bad)
@@oceanusshenron2140 There was no need to explain yours since you were the only one that matched perfectly. But if I have to: Oceanus would be Lust (showing the side effects of desire. Basically, a "be careful what you wish for" scenario)
He is evil Shinron. I believe the name used in the show was “Black Smoke Shinron.” And since he never fought there is no way to get a power level estimate
Baby was a solid ideal that was decently executed, 6.5/10 Super android 17 was BY FAR the worst arc in DB history, 4/10 The shadow dragon arc was a brilliant ideal with solid execution 8/10. Overall GT had a lot of inconsistencies and poor pacing and basically made everyone aside from Goki irrelevant. I kinda would like to see it redone by someone else.
Baby was a really good arc.. super android 17 I liked as a villain a lot but the arc wasn't good.. but overall GT made everyone except Goku feel useless and the storylines weren't that good
Clash of XX Gamers MGL Nothing probably. The Super Dragon Balls aren't made by namekians, which already makes them different from the normal set. The set of regular dragon balls is probably what makes him powerful. If Super goes in the same direction for some reason, we might get shadow dragons from the SDBs, but that's unlikely. It's even more unlikely that they will get boosts from different sets of Dragon Balls, unless different universes have multiple similar sets.
Ironic that the dragon balls were used to do so much good only to come back to bite everyone later. It’s a cool concept that the dragon balls are meant to show what happens when you rely on something too much.
It's fitting that the only dragon that fought hounourably was the dragon with the four star dragon ball
To be fair, it was the dragon ball grandpa Gohan and Goku held. Perhaps their purities somewhat neutralized the negative energy
is that a team four star reference or something
@@yes.4986 Ur right, That because Goku Killed Grandpa Gohan when he was a Child, that could of brought Negative to that Dragon ball
@@thanos9240 what you said made no sense. The only reason negative energy was in that dragon ball was granting too many wishes but it was a bit pure due to Grandpa Gohan and Goku taking care of it
@@nightsphenom7122 dude do u know how fucking stupid you sound??? goku killed grandpa gohan as a ape that can cause negative energy
The Shadow Dragons concept is just amazing. Shenron is the perfect final villain, the name of the show (Dragon Ball) is about the mystical dragons after all.
you are right
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I just wished each dragon actually had character, only Nouva and Eis actually has any type of character that wasn't bland or boring or brute
MegumiFF7 it was executed wrong :'(.
rage shenron in hes ture form is my favorite
All the wishes that are responsible for these dragons:
Syn: Reviving everyone on Namek that was killed by Frieza and his soldiers.
Haze: Reviving Bora.
Eis: Either reviving Evil King Piccolo's and his minion's victims or erasing Majin Buu from people's memories.
Nuova: Evil King Piccolo getting his youth back.
Rage: Reviving Goku to battle Vegeta and Nappa.
Oceanus: Oolong wishing for a pair of panties from a "hot babe".
Naturon: Reviving Majin Vegeta's victims.
additionally, if you take the first letter from each of these characters. They would spell 'SHENRON"
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MoodZi Nouva is my favourite Shadow Dragon he reminds me of Piccolo just because of the way he fights he is soo..
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MoodZi that's so cool
mother of god the professy is true he is the chosen
I have the theory these dragons were supossed to be far more powerful. Their power was supossed to increase with time and would eventually become destructive cosmic entities kinda like Buu. Goku could beat them because he fought them too early and were esentially newborns. I mean, the first one couldn't even transform yet the last ones were a closer match.
The creator of gt said all the dragons were young ! Like that’s fucking crazy if you think about it
Makes sense. They were supposed to be punishment for overusing the dragon balls. Would make sense if that punishment would be something like “the end of mankind” across the galaxy, since man was the one overusing the dragon balls
@@thegodhimself1018 they were young what?
@@serj011 and then people say they had no motivation...
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I freaking loved the Shadow Dragons arc (and still do). They're all really neat villains
Although Nouva actually sacrificed his life.
Hey I also love Shadow Dragons good Villains and my favorite of then is Naturon Shenron
same. I liked it
@@elmasokovi2697Same he’s so underrated
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4:13 I love how the music really suits the transformation and makes it seem more sinister as Pan is absorbed into the dragon.
What's the songs?
@@FortniteReportz”Black” by The Enigma TNG
I honestly didn't view any of the Shenrons as being "powerful" outside of Omega, Nova, and Eis. The other four more or less had strong "side abilities" such as power sapping pollution, absorbing traits and abilities, or having control of the winds and sea. Nova and Eis were strong with good abilities, where as Omega was a culmination of them all with ungodly strength
Syn was the only Shadow Dragon without any special powers, just raw strength and power.
Each of the dragons should have at least been as strong as SSJ4
They only thing that's off is power level super sayin 4 is equal to super sayin blue form so or super saying ascension form the red hair and that power level is at highest is 10 million 1 million ascending into god power and 10 million for blue form I think kio ken 100 times is power level 10 mill and 500 thousand ultra instinct on usage is not a power level but a transformation it's more of a amplifier so god power is amp x 2 given his power level
A total of 40 mill when vegeta get his destruction power blue blue evolution he may be passed goku ultra instinct but I know for a fact on a raw scale level vegeta got to be at 15 mil by his self because evolution blue have had to rise his power level up another few millions jirens power level is at a rough 30 mill on his own plus push our rage 45 mill another 15 but what was crazy I don't believe that was jiren ceilings he has the potential to reveal all goes of destruction
It's because the first were really young like newborn so they didn't have their full power yet
@@tyvellkelly9388 are you talking about power levels are multipliers? Because full power frieza in dbz was confirmed with a power level of 120 million
Omega shenron will forever be the strongest villain in dragon ball history in my eyes. Keyword. Villian... not opponent
Goku black is the strongest that do cover the whole universe and kill each god of destruction
Edit: anyone replying to this, i was a kid and didn’t know shit, and i don’t care no more
@@Deew0244 Actually Goku Black was weaker compared to a destruction God he probably killed all the kaioshins as the kaioshin and destruction Gods are a set
Omega Shelton was the most intimidating villain in DBZ verse.
Agree but Goku Black (Zamasu) and Merged Zamasu all that together Best Villain of DB franchise
DBGT and DBS both have Good things and Bad things and they can't be compared to Classic DB and DBZ but they have the best things ever created...
DBGT - SSJ4 best Super Saiyan form ever created
DBS - Goku Black (Zamasu), Merged Zamasu best villain ever created
Hawksas 9000 But he used a Saiyan (Vegeta) to do so. Idk man, GT was kinda all over the place
The concept of evil shenron was so good, and it made perfect sense for shenron to be the final villain since the show is named after dragonballs, but the execution sucked so bad. I'll be happy if super uses the same concept with super dragonballs for the final villain of super.
Hasn't Super ripped off its predecessors enough? It stole the Super Saiyan God ritual from when Gohan, Goten, Pan, and I think Uub gave power to Goku to fight Syn, U3's God of Destruction looks a lot like Lord Luud, who was Dragonball's first real God of Destruction (the term was used a lot before, but Luud was the only one to be worshipped like a God), and I'm convinced Golden Frieza was taken from Golden Nuova. And that just GT. A good amount of the U6 characters are reskins of U7 characters, Kale is Rule 63 Broly and even used some of the original LSSJ's lines (obviously changed a bit to make the obvious rip off a bit less obvious) and performed some of the moves he did in his 1st movie, and I'm pretty sure Cell did the whole "Tournament to decide the fate of the world" thing before the Tournament of Power. Also, Turles was the first evil Goku. The concept of the Shadow Dragons may have been good, but putting it in Super would only show that Super can't stand on its own 2 feet. That and they already made Pan WORSE than she was in GT. At least she occasionally did stuff back then. Now she's nothing but a comic relief toddler.
+Denzel Rozier +Denzel Rozier Wow that was so stupid 😂
Most of the things in Gt were originial designs of toriyama himself, so you cant 'rip off' yourself. Also i dont care if it actually copies stuff from gt as long as they do it right. Its One show, it not like they are taking stuff from another show. And no they didnt copy the ssj god ritual, that was done before too when goku fought broly and the concept of sharing energy was always there. And U3s god is clearly a reference to Gt. Everything you are saying so obvious, like ofcourse kale is a broly copy, i mean THATS THE POINT !! And the tournaments were the main part of db franchise, the only way to make the tournaments more intersting is to raise the stakes, so what cell did wasnt anything too unique. And turles wasnt evil goku, the concept of evil goku is very basic and simple, anyone can come up with it, turles was just a guy who happened to look like goku, just like how bardock looks exactly like goku and goten too, in super that was actually gokus body, whats important is that the execution is good. And gt had some great concepts and in okay with super using some of them again but in the right way, since gt never happens, its not like the same events are happening again for the characters. And how the fuck did super make pan WORSE ? Her story hasnt even starter yet, she is much younger than gt version, there something called character development, ofcourse pan will be funny and cute, shes a fucking toddler, do you expect her to start screaming and get jacked like the other characters 😂
So your problem it that theres a scene in both gt and super where the characters held hands and shared energy ? ok.
I can agree with you one kale for now. I was very disappointed by kale in super, i was expecting her to be better than broly tbh, but for now she's not. But her story isnt over yet, the lgssj in super was only in one episode so im gonna give kale some time and see what they do with her.
Again the story of the universal arc isnt over yet. Im pretty sure htat there was a good reason for the tournament. Zeno was already going to destroy the 8 universes no matter what. Im sure there is something going on which we havent seen yet so no point in judging it yet. I was worried about frieza coming back as i wanted to see buu fight, bu after the latest episode im very interested in seeing what they do with frieza, that one episode was better than the whole ROF plot tbh.
Goku blacks execution was pretty great. Its one of the best stories in dragonball series since the cell game and frieza saga, in my opinion. Turles was non canon and he was pretty boring and lame, and black in 100 times better than him in every way. Turles was just another cliche bad guy and he looked like goku, thats it, there was no similarity between the two. Black on the other hand had a purpose. He is the only villain after frieza who actually did what he said he would. Zamasu taking gokus body and killin his own family with that face, then mimicking gokus moves was much better than what ginyu and turles ever did. And if you have a problem with that then you should also have a problem with baby taking over vageta. Not only was that the same as ginyu but that was the 3rd time vageta went evil again.
The last part is so stupid that i dnt even wanna reply. So pan sucks in super because she is not doing anything in the show, and she rather not exist ? ok what ??? So by that amazing logic, gohan should've never existed because at one point he was just a whiny little kid who was always getting into trouble and getting kidnapped. Chichi shouldnt exist because she does nothing, Satan shouldnt exist because he IS a comic relief character. Yamcha, tien , yajarobie, puar, master roshi, oolong, korin, popo, dende, shouldnt exist cause they literally dont do shit anymore. (Now they're doing it, but im just using your logic). Even UUB should never exist cause he's not even in the show yet. Pan is literally only in 4 or 5 episodes in super at this point and she is a FUCKING TODDLER, LIKE WHAT DO YOU EXPECT HER TO DO ??? We're not even at the end of Z episode yet. This argument make syou other arguments look super weak man.
just end the argument already. How can a toddler be anything more than a comic relief, i dont understand, shes even younger than gohan was in Z. And she did show her potential, she, blew up a space ship and started flying in the stratosphere, and was able to lift 3 kid sized adults who were only holding on to her right foot. I think you missed than episode. No pan is not a comic relief character, you literally have no idea how character development works, you just said that gohan was whiny in the start but became a better fighter later on, and that happens over the course of 2 arcs, yet pan was only around for 4-5 episodes, and she is a fucking toddler, like how the hell do i even explain it to you, A TODDLER WHO WAS ONLY IN 4 EPISODES IS BEING COMPARED BY A CHARACTER WHO HAS HAD AN ENTIRE SERIES TO DEVELOP xD Thats dumb af bro. The kale part is an obvious homage to broly. And just because a character doesnt do what you like doesnt mean they shouldnt exist, hell pan doesnt even have to be a fighter, if shes not a brat and spoiled she'll be 10 times better than the garbage pan was in gt.
And saying a movie villain who is so forgettable that people remembers him after black goku was introduced, is better than black is just absurd. Black was better than all of gt villains and some of Z villains too. Black beat goku and vageta multiple times, something only he has been able to do, and by the end it took zeno to take care of him. The tournament didnt even start yet and you think cells tournament is better, lol you're just making shit up now.
571danu lol
I honestly really like the shadow dragon concept. A lot of GT had good concepts but horrible execution.
Like Pan.
It did though.. the whole black star balls arc. Shadow dragon arc. Even the tuffle arc would of worked if they didn't rush it all
No it didn't everyone says that no it did not have horrible execution
@@sweetandsover776 no it didn't and I didn't even watch gt as a kid you dumbass nostalgia's got nothing to do with it gt was awesome
@Goddamn 47 i watched GT 2 years ago i'm not blinded by shit you're just blinded by a retarded hate train you're the guy that needs to get over something gt wasn't executed poorly accept it and i don't need to bring up super's shortcomings to justify anything because GT was good in it's own right and doesn't need to be justified
gt - about dragonballs and dragons.. super - about gods and goku looking and acting weird
Denzel Rozier when you are running out of ideas for super saiyan tranaformations so you bring bacl kaioken
Konosch I'm loving DBS,but i have to agree with you...Goku is acting reeealllyyy weird...
Felipe Braga are you watching the sub or dub for dbs?
Konosch that's why the shows are called Dragon Ball
Konosch it's about Dragon Ball
They really should make a new set of shadow dragons for super's finale, maybe a omega shenron from the super dragonballs which are even more powerful then the gods (besides few like zeno). I mean the shadow dragon plot is the perfect end of dragon ball. What do the Z fighters do when the thing they've relied on since episode 1 turned against them? It's the perfect end
J99 agreed
ITS WHAT? FOR GOD SAKE!!!??
J99 Agree
I'd love that. I always thought the concept was brilliant but terribly executed in GT.
J99 dbs animation was a disaster we don't need gt to ruin it completly
6:22 When the door is too far
This makes laugh because he walkes fast.
Omega Shenron was one of the hardest fights I've ever had in the Dragon Ball games .
King Kese What episode was the fight with Syn\Omega started I wanna see that again,it was so epic
Gamer Kid Episode 18 of season 3 but if you're going straight thru , episode 57 , 58
'' dragon thunder ''
aaand here goes my lifebar
Well, he IS the final boss of the franchise as a whole, so it makes sense for him to be the hardest one to fight.
For all who are wondering or just looking for this list here ya go:
1 star: Syn Shenron
2 star: Haze Shenron
3 star: Eis Shenron
4 star: Nuova Shenron
5 star: Rage Shenron
6 star: Oceanus Shenron
7 star: Naturon Shenron
Goku took care of the 4 star dragon Ball to remind him of his Grandpa. It was also seen on gohan's hat when he was small. The very same dragon Ball stored the negetive energy of wishing back piccolo to save planet namek and the shenron that came out of it was honourable and also helped Goku in his fight against omega. In the last scene, special attention to the 4 star is given as it is absorbed into Goku. I love the consistency in all the seasons. Makes the anime very wholesome and complete to me
Syn Shenron, probably the only DB villain who would challenge Beerus and put up a good fight
Não,vegeta Blue evolution é bem mais poderoso que o ômega sherlong e o bills derrotou o vegeta bem fácil
@@gajah3892 ching chong?
The shadow dragons was such a cool concept! Too bad it's part of Dragon Ball Gt, which doesn't get that much attention from the community.
Fish Shoes GT gets attention all right...Just not the positive attention l.
only ss4 gets attention, thus it's worth knowing gt because of that only lolz
GT gets attention, just in the forms of Bebi, ssj4, and later half of shadow dragons. the rest gets shit on for being to focused on Goku, weird power scaling and terrible arcs like rildo and 17. Honestly if it had just done two fairly long arcs of just Bebi and the dragons it prolly would have done well. if they focused on other characters a little more that would have helped as well. People also have issues with how pan acts so childish but that comes from the dub making her older then she in the sub.
omega shrenron is like pac man when he ate the dragon balls
The Merry Blue Pebble ha true
The Merry Blue Pebble
More like Kirby.
@@nelikaufmann4802 hello
@@derushcore9514 hello
People can say what they want about GT, but no one can deny that this was a dope saga/arc.
@Sluglife donb agreed
Who else is so glad the Tournament of Power is finally starting
Saiyan God of Destruction of course loo
Saiyan God of Destruction It took 20 episodes
Saiyan God of Destruction there gonna be at the Tournament but at ep97 it's going to start
Holy shit why'd I get so many likes
Saiyan God of Destruction me
1. Nuova: he was a fire dragon and looked badass 2. Syn: he seemed very powerful and intimidating 3. Eis: ice dragon that was cool looking but got his ass handed to him. Oceanus: it was kinda cool 5. Rage: he was electric 6. Haze: just stupid 7. Nateron: his true form, a f!#$@*& shadow dragon ball is as strong as radditz the FIRST dbz villain where you can grow him
Thats right he was so weak we can grow raditzes
He's weak yeah, but there's a reason. In this form he can easily master everything he wants.
Just noticed each Shadow Dragon is named after a element they use like Naturon is nature/ Earth Oceanus use water etc.
The little things in GT that one may overlook so easily.
what about haze and rage?
StrawHatGraze Haze is obviously air, rage is kinda weird since he control lighting so don't about that one.
***** haze is smoke and dust particuls in the air and often pollution. It's not air it's self. Haze just sucks up air to inflate him self but that's all he did. Apparent he has the power to cause pollution witch hence why he's called haze
Also syn before he became omega shenron is the only shadow dragon that's not associated with any elements
Rage may reflect to all the rage that Saiyans had to turn into SSJ, or just Goku, since his SSJ transformation had a lot of lightning, and that kind of makes sence since GT is all about Goku, and maybe Pan and Trunks, but the rest is about Goku.
Ultimate Mighty Goku rage was created because master roshi used the dragon balls to revive goku. Also super saiyain 2 only have electricity sparks. Rage having the ability to use and absorb electricity does not relate to goku's super saiyan form, that's pure coincidence. He posses no other relation to goku especially their personalities. The dragon that had some sort of similarity to goku was nuova shenron who faught with honor and was kind to goku unlike the rest of the shadow dragons and ies being the total opposite twin of nuova
Naturon Shenron in "True Form" still has a power level that can beat Goku's ass at the start of Z.
Elemental Users
Omega Shenron - Darkness
Eis - Shenron - Ice
Nuova Shenron - Fire
Naturon Shenron - Earth
Oceanus Shenron - Water and Wind
Rage Shenron - Thunder
Haze Shenron - Poison
Forgot how good Gt was, think it deserves a bit more credit
some of these ideas are better than Super....GT makes the Dragon balls centered, Super didn't...and Super doesn't have main villian unlike GT there are Baby and S.H.E.N.R.O.N
@@yoj312 it was db centered cuz it had no ideas for itself like dbs did lmao
@@leultrainstinct406 ?? Your childish
Super has no ideas it's went from finding dragon balls to getting new hair dye what you think db comes in db super kids?
for all the people raging that gt doesnt have power levels
he said in the disclaimer not to take these numbers seriously because they are unofficial estimates
I feel like the odd one out when it comes to gt but it has to be my favorite out of the entire series, the story just has so much damn heart to it. 🔥🔥
I loved gt, the show and the movie was awesome, I don't care what anyone says, I am well aware that just about everybody and their pet unicorn hates the hell out dragon Ball gt, me, I absolutely positively loved it, take your hatred for gt to another universe or someplace please
Jay Red and because of the para para brothers
Also most Dbz fans haven't even watched it they just say it's bad and they don't even know why or they just say because of pan and kid goku
Gt has problems but so does every dragon ball series
I loved the shadow dragons
Super saiyan 4
Majuub
And super 17 eveb though his saga was like 4 episodes
I hated the USA version, but able to watching JP version that made a difference for me. Pan is less annoying with the voice actor so I was fine by that. And i also hated kid goku. They shouldn't have done that
I agree it was entertaining but I hated the ending and I'm glad none of this is saga is true because if it was well shit because I hate how the dragon balls don't work in the end and super sayian 4 looked stupid honestly
man GT is awesome especially SSj4
@yuulk to you yes, and to me Super is Garbage
@@latintiger The second half of GT was great, I will give you that.
@@VCthaGOATdunker true
@@latintiger super isn’t trash I mean it did lack some original ideas and concepts and had to bring back old villains and basically do recolors of transformations but it’s not bad
@@shadowninja2338 well the only good thing about super is the good black and the tournament of power arc
Also a nice thing I picked up somewhere was that Nuova and Eis Shenron are a reflection of Goku and Raditz while one of them wants to fight and is a fair and honest person the other one is a coward who deploys cheap tactics to defeat his opponent at all costs
0:07 Shadow Dragon
Power Level: Uknown
He is supreme dragon...
0:11 pass the weed
Nice one XD
Optic Drone dude was hella high
3:02 expectativa y rialidad 3:05
More like pass the cohiba
Optic Drone good good weed got a weed
GT had excellent concepts and almost all the villains were frikkin badass! Baby Vegeta, General Rildo, that giant destroyer baby robot, Super 17 and finally the Shadow dragons... All were victims of awful execution.
Yeahh...the concept of how they transform into SSJ4, Gogeta, Golden Oozaru
Nope. The Baby arc was handled pretty well
Shadow dragon power levels:
Black smoke shenron: ??
1. Haze shenron: 45,000,000
2. Rage shenron: 5,000,000
(Slime giant): 600,000,000,000
(Electricity absorbed): 1,200,000,000,000+
3. Oceanus shenron: 2,700,000,000
4. Natural shenron (mole absorbed): 100,000,000,000
(Pan absorbed): 2,500,000,000,000
(True form): 1,000
5. Nuova shenron (Shelled): 132,000,000,000
(True power): 13,200,000,000,000
6. Eis shenron: 6,600,000,000,000
7. Syn shenron: 24,000,000,000,000
8. Omega shenron: 240,000,000,000,000
3:08 Pan! Take care of BISH!
It would be awesome if they appeared in Super but were more fleshed out. In concept they rock and it's interesting for the Dragon Balls to have a down side.
Super has four sets of Dragon Balls. There is a random planet with a Namekian where there are only two balls the size of ping pong balls. Could even be more.
Imagine what the shadow dragons would be like coming from super Shenron... the possibility is outrageous!
Omega Shenron's power level is out of control.
4:47 Poor Dragon Weaker than Tien,Krillin and Yamcha
Imagine that this is just a Human whoose main Power is to became stronger Forms. The Reason he has this Form is to become everything he wants.
Yours are the ONLY amv videos I enjoy watching.
Hate on GT but it had original ideas, and tried to give Z an adequate continuation. Even Trunks and Goten are teenagers, super is recycled garbage meant for a quick buck knowing people will tune in.
SSJ4 > ssg
Consumed by deceit 100000% Agree
Baby and the Shadow Dragons were pretty original. But super 17 was pretty much super android 13 and the black star saga was meant to be a throwback to the original dragon ball but it seemed much more boring.
@@rayankhan3858
Lets look at super... They brought back the pilaf gang for what reason? Future trunks AND frieza AGAIN?? Another tournament ?? Android17 ?? The characters were lazy and poorly animated. Compare all of their gay ass looking kais to the ones in Z, they had winnie the pooh for fucks sake. The blue transformation was made because it was easier to animate and the list goes on... super is garbage even comparing to GT. SSJ4 > ssb
@@consumedbydeceit5942 The problem with Super is that there are simply no stakes. In Z it genuinely felt like yo if they lose to Frieza/Cell/Buu the universe is finished. In Super if there is an issue it's an Earth problem Beerus+Whis have the Universe covered. Heck even Broly was like nothing to Whis. They tried to fix this in TOP but I mean most of the characters were heroic so they probably would have wished everyone back to life so it really wasn't a surprise, plus no killing in the tournament lessened those stakes as well.
Literally the only part where I was worried about a character was when Anilaza was trying to eat 18.
Also in Super everyone has dropped about 20 IQ points. Goku's retarded, Frieza was so scared of SSJ maybe if he hit the gym for like a weekend he would have crushed it. Apparently the potara rings aren't permanent which means what's the difference in the fusions? Trunks coming for help and literally left crying because Zamasu was the sky? The idea that Goten+Trunks would do worse in a fight compared to Tien. Buu "always sleeping" simply because he's too OP.
Transformations? SSG, SSB is just a colour swaps from SSJ. The Kaioken Blue, Royal Blue and UI are pretty cool though. At least in Super other characters get to shine, whereas in GT it was just "Goku time" the others were basically a waste of space/a burden right until Vegeta got a SSJ4 transformation at the v.end, even then it was simply to fuse with Goku he didn't do anything by himself.
GT the space stuff was dumb esp. since Frieza was established as the de-facto strongest so the idea of an "adventure" with Goku was ridiculous. If they had made it so as a kid he couldn't transform (or hold it like SSJ3) then might have made it more interesting. Pan+that robot was fucking annoying as well. Super Android 17 was stupid as well.
The Dragons however were genuinely interesting and is well worth re-visiting the idea that DB shouldn't be abused. SSJ4 was an epic transformation the idea of Oozaru going SSJ was always what I thought the legendary SSJ should have been.
@@consumedbydeceit5942 super might have been better if they brought Cooler into Canon instead of freeza. As for future Trunks, just have an ova showing Babidi and Dabura coming to earth and entering into conflict with trunks. Also they could have made the tuffle creations like baby and hatchiyak Canon
You forgot Eis Shenron (Shell form) and DBH forms.
Also, it was said that Omega is at least 10 times stronger than Syn.
Lyserg1260 where was that said
Syn and omega are the same! Just stronger
Its Nuova Shenron who has the Shell Form not Eis.
@@shadowthehedgehog6081 Sonic fan
I thought their power was determined on how many stars they had on the dragon ball.
Same
Wouldn't make any sense considering Syn is the strongest
Wouldn't make sense, because Syn Shenron is The strongest, and he has only 1 star
i think this is the first time i saw a dragon smoking-
amazing.
Omg why did you have to put the powerlevels in the video? It's gonna start arguments and shit.....
MaTrixZ did you not read the disclaimer?
Eric Gamer yeah I did, and the question is why put MADE-UP power levels, to stir up the comments? I came to the video just to see the dragons, not the powerlevel
this is true, we can already tell how stronge each dragon is based on their fights with goku and the title specificly says all forms and transformations of the shadow dragons. the made up power levels were not necessary and only made things confusing and started arguments. POWER LEVEL SCALING IS NO LONGER A THING ANYMORE
StrawHatGraze ikr, power levels stopped after the frieza saga
***** yeah lol
Honestly the Shadow Dragon saga was really good. A saga that finally having the Dragon Ball as it's main topic. It also have a Super Saiyan transformations that finally not just changing hair color with semi Giant Ape design. Imagine if we see this in Super Dragon Ball animation
You can’t tell me the shadow dragons are not the reason Toriyama thought of the gods of destruction. Twin brothers Eis and Nuova just like Beerus and Champa and they’re all universally strong and all connected through the same source
Sorry but I dont see so much personality to consider such.
They will most likely make shadow dragon canon to super it’s too good of a concept not to.
Good thing GT isn't canon. these dragons would mop the floor with the DBZ villains
TyranntX GT is canon dumb dumb
it's not
TyranntX ye GT is canon thats true
Richard Löwenherz no...it's not. It does not have a manga and it does not tie into the story anymore the DBS now being a thing. It was all filler in the first place
SickHead thats irelevant. GT was made as the Continuation of Z without a Manga because Akira was lazy to make another one like he always said.
GT is Anime Canonity. If DB would have an official Canon, there would be two seperate Canon. Manga And Anime.
Interview mit Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru aus der Dragon Ball Anime Illustration Collection: The Golden Warrior
Nakatsuru: "GT" wurde als Fortsetzung konzipiert...
Nakatsuru: “GT” was made as a continuation...
www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/golden_warrior-katsuyoshi_nakatsuru/
This is official and no fan canon shit:
HERMS
“Yamamuro simply says that story-wise Super Saiyan 4 "comes after" Super Saiyan God, because GT takes place later than RF. He says nothing at all about strength. Then he's asked about whether Toriyama has said GT isn't really a continuation of the DB series. Yamamuro responds that story-wise GT is connected, but it has some characteristics of a spin-off, and was not part of Toriyama's manga. There's no mention throughout throughout any of this of Super, just the film RF, GT, and the manga.“
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With the Dragon Ball Kanzenban, the series will be garnering new fans. And being fans, I think they will probably want to see some new Dragon Ball Z. How about it, Sensei - why not make a new animated work once a year or so?
Toriyama:
Ah, I’d like to see that.
Nakatsuru:
But in the final chapter, Goku’s getting pretty old. And what happens to him after is already covered in the anime-original Dragon Ball GT. Still, Goku is the main character, after all. If you’re going to make a new story without any difficulty, you’ll have to rewind time a bit, and tell a story from somewhere in the past, or something…
Toriyama:
I agree. Rather than continuing on strangely into the future, or digging deeper, I’d rather develop it with something like a separate episode, going back in time to say, “there was such-and-such a story, involving such-and-such an opponent”. As in, it wasn’t in the comic, but this kind of thing also happened. I think that’d probably be better.
www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/son-goku-densetsu-toriyama-x-nakatsuru/
the Shadow Dragons have such good designs! much better than anything in Super
Hell nah the designs are terrible💀💀
I can’t even take them seriously.
The only decent designs are Omega/Syn Shenron, Oceanus Shenron and the shadow dragon twins. Other than that they suck.
@@leultrainstinct406I like the Shadow Dragons ngl, but this man is taking absolute nonsense. “Better than anything Super”
Nuova Shenron is the only Shadow Dragon that shown honorable villain and a worthy opponent of Goku for some reasons.
1) He is the 4-Star Dragon Ball which was a family heirloom of both Grandpa Gohan and Goku since this was the first Dragon Ball that appear in the first episode and the first one acquired by Goku.
2) He was not cocky and arrogant character but remain as stoic and terrifying villain.
3) His final form was Golden Form(Golden Frieza who?) was his TRUE form. Plus, he transforms that form without a fit of rage nor power up.
4) He challenge Goku to prove if he was a worthy opponent and turned out, he was right as Goku did fought him in his base form, despite some comedic moments.
And lastly, 5) He transforms into Golden Form as Goku requested and Goku also transform into Super Saiyan 4, his primal true form before they fight for another round. Heck, he even help Goku against Omega Shenron.
Of all of Shadow Dragons aside Syn/Omega Shenron as the Thanos of Dragon Ball series, Nuova Shenron is by far my favorite Shadow Dragon.
This song is
Goku Black theme (UNOFFICIAL)
By Saiyan enigma
You are a hero lol
shadow dragon: SMOKE WEED EVERYDAY
Ikr
Omega Shenron power level is 3 Quadrillion
Ngô Tiến hell no its got to be wayyy bigger than that
Carlos Valdovinos no way less
XKINGX Gaming shut up
Red Tiger stop being butthurt omega is waay high balled his power level should be in the trillions
khush 17 proof supertard
Pushing out hella content. Good stuff brotha!!!
6:36 where the golden frieza idea came from😂
I never understood why people believe Goku actually killed Pan when he killed Naturon. Im confused on that.
Same
never watched gt
GT gets a lot of crap, but I always thought it was cool that the last actual enemies in the series were the dragon balls themselves
Ignoring the odd parts of GT Baby, Super 17(okay he's a bit ify), and the Shenrons were the best things to come out of it. I wouldn't mind the Shadow Dragons appearing in Super in some form. The Shadow Dragons are certainly great in concept.
One of the biggest failures with this show was Pan
Pan WAS the biggest failure of GT. For someone who is the offspring of Gohan, a fighter with a lot of underused potential, and Videl, someone who likes fighting, you'd think Pan would be the next-gen Teen Gohan. But unfortunately, GT was Goku Time, and all she did was talk shit, provide comic relief, and give Goku a reason to fuck people up. On the bright side, Pan never had any moments of glory, so she's not as big a disappointment as her father, someone who would've been the strongest fighter pre-Gods if he didn't slack off after Cell.
Nope pan was a good character
She was perfect to take a break from the violent and crazy fighting environment of dbz
Paul Majano it was gt wut u mean
lmfao she was a drag fr
Paul Majano yes besides pan GT was pretty good. The real reason everyone hated on it though is because it pretty much brought Dragonball to a end.
Honestly, these kind of villains should become canon since DBS: Broly had Bulma trying to get the dragonballs to make herself younger.
Toriyama doesn't care about the Dragon Balls...he is making more fights to be a mortal become a god level
Omega shenron, one of my favorite DB villains and i wish they show us something like thin new DBS arc... omega super shenron!
So my fanon: Shadow Shenron, the first one, was in fact the real Shenron corrupted by the evil wishes. Also, while normal Shenron normally grants wishes, instead Shadow Shenron can use them for himself. Funny enough he got two wishes, his first one was the cigar because he wanted to smoke (sounds like a total waste, but with how some of the wishes are quite small and silly, it only makes sense he's use one for something frivolous), his second wish was what made the seven other dragons, he wished to cause humanity destruction, since normally Shenron's body can only survive outside of the Dragon Balls for so long. He couldn't actually grant a wish to live outside the balls because technically its a wish that is more powerful than himself (if he could already exist outside the balls, then he wouldn't have needed to use the wish in the first place), so instead when his body split up, each of the individual balls could summon a dragon of their own that could continue to exist beyond his summoning.
I literally had this same thought. I feel like GT kind of expects you to assume things sometimes and that's okay.
The Shadow Dragon could maybe represent the 7 deadly sins
Syn: Wrath
Haze: Envy (I think)
Eis: Pride
Nuova: Sloth (I think)
Rage: Gluttony (I also think)
Oceanus: Lust
Naturon: Greed
Rage would be Wrath (it's his name afterall)
Haze would be Sloth (since his power weakens opponents)
Eis would be Envy (sibling rivalry, and only a jealous person would fight dirty)
Sin would be Gluttony (representing the gluttonous misuse of the dragonballs; he even says it to Goku)
Nuova would be Pride (showing how pride can be both good and bad)
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Oceanus would be Lust (showing the side effects of desire. Basically, a "be careful what you wish for" scenario)
These kinds of videos are always cool
potato chips that's true
I wish this show could be Canon
Yeah...the idea that there's Baby absorbing the fighters, SSJ4, Shadow Dragons
NO, I'M NOT GONNA LET YOU SAY THE N WORD. DON'T YOU REALISE ITS RACIST? I'LL MAKE SURE YOU'LL NEVER SAY THE N WORD, EVER AGAIN!
I do enjoy the concept of the Shadow Dragons. It shows that their is consequences to over using and/or misusing the Dragon balls.
Back when power level 5000 was alot..... And now this is so broken..
They are talking about Trillions can't u see in video? Thousands are much for earlier series
Power level 1000 wouldn't make SSJ 4 flinch like that. Unless he was mocking/looking for true intent.
If you think 1000 is a small power level think again That thing would be able to murder goku at the beginning of Z
Capital One Cup Series I mean raditz has a power level 1200 and it’s still extremely low by today’s standards
1000 is a low power level
Brandon Per ez ... he just it would kill goku at the START of Z.
Winter Cooler 1,500 not 1,200
Dead Inside David Yeah true lol
Didn’t know Nouva Shenron became a good guy. That’s really cool, cause he was the most honorable. Unfortunate he died.
03:11 "Take care of this bish!"
These Power levels are ridiculous :D
8:21 this is syn! No omega
bro u truly ODED with the power levels
The designs and powers of the shadow dragons were the most disappointing thing i ever saw in an anime. The only good ones were nova and omega shenron.
571danu ikr lmao
I like Oceanus tho
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571danu you're blind then
Exactly Tori- Sensei
The Goku Black theme is so awesome
6:10 goku gt has mastered ultra instinc
Dude UI appears in DBS. This Goku uses Strategy not Transformations.
Also Ultra would just slowly walk and he's running.
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been created to kill jokes. Ik it's a joke. The joke Demon has killed my parents and later my master.
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Awesome video as always, Thanks for the Videos!
I love super AND the cool parts of GT. I hope they still tie in ssj4 in super cause it's so badass
I’m going to have to refresh my memory and watch all of GT Over Again
omega shenron is the coolest/ best idea for a dragon ball villain. dbs has so many garbage characters 😔
Gerardo Linares zamasu and black are cool
NerdSquad 115 technically toppo is not a villain, saying how he actually fought for justice, he was just an antagonist, but he wasn't evil
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Zamasu is the only villain in Super
Gerardo Linares Facts. Super characters are garbage.
The whole concept of the dragon balls filling with evil was not a bad idea.
Golden Frieza ain't got nothing on Nuova Shenrons true form
Here before the 7th Anni on JP begins. 7, 7 dragon balls, 7 shadow dragons … make it happen. 🤞🏻
The moment when nova sacrificed his life for Goku was sad though
Yeah, considering that he's has the dragon ball that Goku cherishes alot
I miss these guys so much
power level uknown.
the first shadow dragon said uknown power level
The power level is:FUCKING DUMBASS FOR USING A LIGHTER TO LIGHT A CIGAR WHEN HE IS A DRAGON
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He is evil Shinron. I believe the name used in the show was “Black Smoke Shinron.” And since he never fought there is no way to get a power level estimate
The Annilators, it’s Shenron, not Shinron.
The Annilators I think he is the strongest because he had all the shadow dragons
GOD DAMN I WAS NODDING MY HEAD OFF CUZ OF THOSE DOPE AF SONGS IN THE BACKGROUND IN THIS VIDEO
Baby was a solid ideal that was decently executed, 6.5/10
Super android 17 was BY FAR the worst arc in DB history, 4/10
The shadow dragon arc was a brilliant ideal with solid execution 8/10.
Overall GT had a lot of inconsistencies and poor pacing and basically made everyone aside from Goki irrelevant. I kinda would like to see it redone by someone else.
Baby was a really good arc.. super android 17 I liked as a villain a lot but the arc wasn't good.. but overall GT made everyone except Goku feel useless and the storylines weren't that good
Its unbelievable, how kakarat cease to amaze us.
6:20 every dragonball legends unit when lf goku or transforming yellow gohan shows up
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Cool video 🔥
what happens if 1 star dragon ates super dragon balls
You get Super Ultra Mighty All Powerful Omega Shenron.
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Clash of XX Gamers MGL then we have a shadow dragon as strong as Zeno or maybe equal to the grand priest
Clash of XX Gamers MGL Nothing probably. The Super Dragon Balls aren't made by namekians, which already makes them different from the normal set. The set of regular dragon balls is probably what makes him powerful. If Super goes in the same direction for some reason, we might get shadow dragons from the SDBs, but that's unlikely. It's even more unlikely that they will get boosts from different sets of Dragon Balls, unless different universes have multiple similar sets.
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I don’t mind staying in the body of a kid as long as I get my hair and tail back this is gonna be fun fighting dragons
2:00 reminds me of when fused zamasu struck goku
Ironic that the dragon balls were used to do so much good only to come back to bite everyone later. It’s a cool concept that the dragon balls are meant to show what happens when you rely on something too much.
can we agree that haze shenron was the worst shenron
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