@@TenkabitoShien I would disagree there cause Zamasu is an evil kaioshin which took over gokus body which gave us an evil goku. We already had an evil Goku in Turles, and the concept of evil kais were created I think around 2008-9
@@briangarcia1975 that's why i specifically said zamasu. Plus he isnt an evil goku, its zamasu that stole goku's body and before universe zamasu goku black's part of fusion zamasu was dead anyways
@@briangarcia1975 Goku Black was a very well antagonist tbh. Honestly Super had the better protagonist such as Hit, Toppo, Beerus, Whis, Broly, Jiren (his story was trash), Cabba, and honestly if you think GT had the better villains you need to check out the manga in dbs it's much better well except the TOP chapter but a new Villoan is Moro and he's a unique character
Bit late to the party here but Omega was also decaying the Sacred World of the Kais which exists outside the universe and orbits universe 7's macrocosm
I still think the whole concept of omega shenron and that whole arc in general is genius. Execution? Thats debatable wether its great or not BUT the idea itself is awesome.
imo the first half or so of the arc was prolly the worst part of GT (writing-wise, even though the concept was great). Once they got to Nuova Shenron, everything got better from there, very compelling and had a strong ending. In all, I give the arc a 6 or 7 out of 10
Freddy Gabriel i liked it but the fact that a charcter absorbed the Dragon Balls,he shoulda been higher than a God. Ss4 gogeta woulda paled in comparison. They could have at least made them on par though bc its illogical how a potarra fusion is more powerful than the dragonballs. Omega shenron was absorbing the magic of the Dragon Balls. If it wasnt for plot and rushed fight then it would been better.
@@tiablue9106I agree that the writing in the first part of the arc was shit but from Nuova Shenron onwards it just got very generic, Nuova and Eis shenron struggle over having an honourable fight vs just getting the job done has popped up in so much Japanese media that it's not even a joke and Omega Sheron strong or not was just boring, he had zero personality or reason for doing what he was doing, GT only decent portion was the Baby Saga.
@@c-man2475 King Picollo Killed Shenron with one blast, the idea that these Shadow Dragons were so strong in the first place was just wrong by any metric you can use.
kinganarkzie Well i can try to explain it like this.... The dragon balls themselves is the most powerful object in db universe. Shenron the dragon is just the guardian and Kami is just the creator of the dragonballs. All them wishes people made gave the dragon balls more negative energy so it shouldn't matter how strong the guardian or creator is because the power of the negative energy is not connected to the strength of the guardian. The guardian Dragon is the one thats supposed to be the same powerlevel as the creator of the dragon balls not the dragon balls themselves. The Dragon just unlocks the magic so they can be used for the specific wish. As we saw in Gt,the dragon doesnt have the power to stop the negative energy from escaping once the balls have been used for too often. So when negative energy escapes it turns into dark magic in dragon-like forms and these dragons would be very powerful causing havoc etc like we saw in Gt. Only thing about Gt is the shadow dragons should have been alot harder to beat especially with all the wishes they made. Especially when Syn absorded the dragon balls,he should have been a God. I guess Omega Shenron couldnt tap into the magic of the dragonballs, he could only use the negative energy created from them. Either way he got beat too easily bc plot and i think the fight could have gone better.
Actually Super Janemba was the Thanos of DragonBall history (Infinity Gauntlet Thanos to be specific), Omega Shenron was more like the Darkseid of DragonBall history.
I for one actually like GT, yeah it’s not as good as DBZ but it’s definitely not as bad as people seem to think, the Baby saga and Dark Dragon saga are pretty awesome
But does anyone actually remember the Super 17 Saga? And remember how much the Black Star Dragon Ball saga dragged? There was also plenty of moments that shouldn't have been played for laughs that were. Like Omega Shenron VS Gogeta.
@@wisemankugelmemicus1701 but that's what makes Gogeta SS4 so memorable, the amount of screen time he got was minimal, but he definitely balanced out such a serious arc. Maybe that's why alot of people liked DB GT, because of Gogeta alone 👍
Which is obviously trash. Ss4 Goku should be able to defeat him. Omega just fan made character. Which why I don’t respect fan made villains they always try to make them the toughest of the tough. And not just make them strikg
I love that you do stuff on gt without any bias. A lot of people hate gt, I for one thought bits of it were good. Also I wish when shenron became omega he changed his appearance much more
yes it's hard to note any difference after transformation except dragon balls on his chest, but he actually look slightly different if you compare him with his previous form.
GT was ok despite it's share of problems. The biggest problems were that it placed too much focus on Goku like DBZ did and the fact that he never turned back into an adult permanently until 100 years after he defeated Omega Shenron.
In my opinion, the animation in GT looked better than Super's because it was an updated version of DBZ's while Super's look similar to Kai's. Toei for some reason made the fighters look slimmer now from how they looked before.
That´s is to make it more accessible for a younger audience, the same happened to Saint Seiya, the animation on GT was great yeah but it was made for a different generation
This type of story needs to be revisited. The Dragons/DragonBall’s are WAY too interesting and mysterious not to be brought back in some capacity like this.
I hope not tbh that would suck if super ever stole this idea i would cry i love the shadow dragons but i dont want super to be so unoriginal that it steals ideas
I know a lot of people hate GT but honestly I thought the shadow dragon concept was brilliant and hope they do something similar in Super. Teaching them not to rely on the Dragonballs to insta fix everything is a great lesson. Honestly in the past stuff went down that seemed like the end (King Piccolo's first rule) and even though tons of people died earth recovered over time.
You're wrong there's a lot of people who love Dragon Ball GT so much of them that it's hard to even count the whole point is that that they just been hiding away for a while because that a lot of people would criticize them and destroy their love for something
I loved gt man that’s just my opinion but I enjoy a lot of it when I was a kid the space travel was really boring and the fact Goku being a kid which is understood but some of it was great I think they should redo it with Toriyama involved it would be great
GT could’ve been better tho like the episodes are honestly not intense or interesting but who knows they might make ssj4 cannon soon since they are probably bringing Bardock back
What if the Final Villain of Dragon Ball Super will come from those huge Super Dragon Balls? Can we call him Super Omega Shenron and he will be as strong as Grand Priest or even Zeno.
@@imhappy._. here are the multiple timelines (dimensions): Dragonball/Dragonball Z/Dragonball Online (Xeno Timeline) Dragonball GT Dragonball Super Meta Timeline Capsule Corps. Timeline
I guarantee the influence of our gods of destruction in DBS , came from Omega Shenron. It wouldn’t be wrong to say Omega Shenron is the first god of destruction we ever saw in the entire franchise. You can’t tell me Toriyama didn’t get the ideas from Omega Shenron and his dialogue
@@statesminds That wouldn't work due to the similarity to Kaioken being unusable when in SSJ forms (exception of SSG and SSB) and being unable to build the Spirit Bomb while transformed, but it would undeniably look badass
Has anyone thought about the fact that Frieza could have flashback about the kaioken x20 and the Genkidama when he is going to see them in the next episode?
Dude, Frieza having flashbacks would be so awesome, the long running joke of how Goku beat him being brought back in episodes 109-110 would be greaaaat. I can see him with that scared face, then the flashback of the spirit bomb and goku saying Friiieeezzzzaaaa....this would make the series for me.
Its not the fact that he is strong, its the fact that he is a pure master of techniques.. he is a being devised too train and help grow every guardians power, that is why he was able too hold off two little super Saiyan's and also swallows Goku's Kamehameha wave.
I can imagine Omega Shenron, Super Janemba, Kid Buu, and original Broly being Gods of Absolute Total Destruction, not mere G.O.Ds @@devilfromhell8546 IMO Beerus isn't intimidating since he's lazy and he also isn't the most powerful G.O.D
Even though the execution is sloppy at times, the idea of having our heroes fight literal embodiments of the consequences of their actions over the whole story is a great way to end DB. An unexpected and poetic final challenge to overcome: the dragon balls themselves. Feels like it's the only way it could have ever ended. Shame that now it doesn't count.
maybe by "cosmos" they meant the space-time around the planet destroyed, wich means that the planet was totally erased, creating a region of absolute void.
If we assume the gods from Super were there in GT behind the scenes, being less involved, then if it got to the point where Omega was going to destroy the universe, it would only take one hakai from Beerus to end him.
@@aliveandwellinisrael2507 Sadly, Syn Shenron would take Beerus' lunch money. Base GT Goku destroyed a dimension with a Kamehameha -- it's just a completely different power scale.
It wasn't the case in the Buu arc already. Buuhan was the most powerful villain in Z, while Vegito was the most powerful being in Z - meanwhile the last serious battle was between Goku and Kid Buu.
Also Babadi and his henchman when they came to earth to revive Buu were weaker than perfect Cell. I would argue that Android 19 and 20 were weaker than Frieza but isn’t super clear. Still 2 clear examples in a series (Z) with 3-4 main arcs.
@Martin Ramirez Kid Buu isn't the strongest. Goku knew he didn't stand a chance against Super Buu on his own and knew he had to fuse with Vegeta to even have a chance against him and he confidently fought against Kid Buu in his SS3 form.
Omega was pretty amazing. TWO Super Saiyan 4s couldn't touch him, even with Goku being empowered by the other earth Saiyans (fun fact, they were actually one shy of making Goku a Super Saiyan God, hehehe). But also, he did not fuck around. Goku and Vegeta fused ONCE, and it was nearly the end of him. He devoted the rest of the fight to making sure the pair of them didn't do it again, because he knew on Round 2 Gogeta would go straight for the throat.
The best moment in GT is when Mr Satan takes a hard kick in the gut from Omega Shenron but is totally fine afterwards. That confirmed to me that Mr Satan is truly immortal
This is a great idea for a villain that can be brought into super. Super struggles to create villains that are believable in their power because of how strong goku and vegeta have become. It’s just hard to believe that there is a god of destruction level character just wandering the universe that hasn’t been discovered yet.
I'm still really hoping they reuse the ideas in the Shadow Dragon arc. The idea of the Dragon Balls creating the ultimate enemies for the series really makes sense and should be the way Super ends. Plus the idea of the balls being way overused and creating negative energy as a result, really makes a lot of sense. Before Goku and Bulma the Dragon Balls were almost never used, but during the series they're used almost as much as they possibly can be used. It makes sense that they would become corrupt over time.
While it's impossible to deny that the God of Destruction title was not invented, it is possible that Shenron actually does possess Divine energy as he comes from the wish orbs, which were created with Divine Kai energy, meaning that he basically has the opposite of the Kais in terms of energy, much like a God of Destruction has ki opposite to the creative ki of the Kais
ryan king 1 it stated right there in the series, that his negative energy can destroy the universe, yet you choose to remain ignorant and hate on GT. Keep hating, you fucking hater. FUCK YOU! 🖕🖕
Omega Shenron exists in GT verse, which follows the old 4 galaxy model, before the canon universe was confirmed to be like ours. Even if his universe attack was instant, it'd be a galaxy+feat, but that's with a bit of wank.
deaging goku is terrible. We see goku grow over time, and he litterary grew With us. All his Growth and strenght just dissapear. GT and super is terrible, and it should have stopped where it orignally did. smh.
GT did many things good. but at the time it execute them in really bad way. really good way to tie in and expand the Lore. at the same time. ruins and underplays some parts. 7 Shadow dragons appeared ? goku goes after all of them alone.. instead I don't know... use the other 6 fighters to fight each dragon alone ?( Gohan - Vegeta - Trunks - Gotten - Uub- Pan ) but no it's Goku time. and that ambiguous ending that no one really knows what really happened. List goes on
@@hmmmm8816 "popo get the first aid kit" that dosent mean he cant heal there is worse in super tbh like vegeta not lifting 1000 tons and goku bleeding from a bullet which not even kid goku bled from bullets i could go on the power scale is trash
Yamcha: hey vegeta how much is my power level Vegeta: look outside and count the stars Yamcha: but it's day so nothing is out there Yamcha: oh oh shit Vegeta: exactly bro
The sun's a star you moron lol and technically the stars are still there we just can't see them cuz of the giant star that literally supports life on the planet😂😂😂😂
Although the show and layout of events wasn't very good, the concept of the shadow dragons was very cool. The idea using the main story point too much no matter how good the reason results in these evil creatures. Omega shenron was evil and didn't screw around unlike all the other villains. That's why he was so scary. He didn't want to play games like cell, he wanted to eliminate all who oppose him and allow darkness to be all that exists.
Zarama Gexcior They got everyone involved in super more than Gt. In Gt goku was the only threat until vegeta became ssj 4 for four episodes. The rest of the z warriors just complete unless.
Since Omega Shenron came from overusing the regular dragon ball. I always wondered what were to happen if let's say if you overused the Namekain dragon balls, or the Super dragon balls. I know the whole negative energy thing is exclusive to GT but you know just a thought lol
Super Omega Shenron... that's terrifying, absolutely insane. Considering the dragon balls are as strong as the creator, dende is nothing compared to even sayain saga characters, yet omega is universal. So imagine a multiversal level being making the dragon balls. Omega might even be complex multiversal or 4 to 5 Dimensonal at that point. We would all just Die immediately.
That's a cool term. The Dragonball renissance. I've never heard that before but it's pretty accurate considering all the new content we've received. Also your outro music is great anyone know the name if the song?
This man Omega Shenron is OP asf he got all of the shadow dragons powers and his own he is the second strongest character in the DB universe next to Gogeta SS4
darrenraphael current base goku absorbed the power of god which bit him septillions strongee than ssj3 z goku in base form and can still go ssj ssj2 SSJ3 ssg and ssb so 4000 is incredibly weak
Moses Afful Gt base goku is as strong as saiyan beyond god goku. Anyway, goku in super has 2 base forms, one with god energy and one without god energy.
So in a nut shell Omega Shenron is GTs verison of Zamasu but not as effective. Lol Anyway this was an amazing video Geekdom! Thanks for all your hard work!! Still hyped for that Toonami video!!
Spider-Ben Hold On he might be onto something, Champa finds out about the dragon balls in his universe and since he can’t keep his mouth shut he lets everyone know. Everyone fights for the dragon balls which causes them to crack and become corrupted.
Oh so you mean GT followed Dragon Balls lore to the end? It combined DB and DBZ stylistically and thats why DBZ fans hate it. Most never actually watched DragonBall. GT actually stays true to DBZ while Super does not yet somehow one of Super fans #1 arguments is GT isnt loyal to the source material, therefore not canon. How? Yin Shilong/Omega Shenron is my favorite villain.
People don't hate GT because of its ideas. They hate it because the execution sucked. The fight's aren't about skill like in DB, but also lack the speed of Z. Besides the fighting, the animation was much poorer compared to Z, the ideas for the arcs were not fully realized, and the comical parts weren't really funny. It also lacked real breakout characters to help push the new direction of the series. Z had Vegeta, Trunks, and Gohan. Super has Beerus, Whis, and Hit. GT has Pan and Uub, but I don't think they're as highly praised as Vegeta or Beerus.
Goku:I wish to be Rich Shenron:that is beyond my power Me: did you not make a dragon that can take on two ssj4 Shenron: will you look at the time I gtg
Omega Shenron just by standing there doing nothing can destroy the universe, Dragonball gt was universal. Movie characters and moves do show up, and you can argue some of these movies share a continuity as the same movie character shows up in a few of them. Icarus is in 3 of them and the garlic jr arcs Sacred Water is in GT. Cooler is in GT.
Who else thinks that Dragon Ball GT should have been one of the alternate universes like Universe 6 for example? Like if you agree. 😡 I LOVE DRAWING FAN MADE ART.
The most are we getting is from Xenoverse which treats GT as an alternative timeline, heck GT characters have unique interactions with Whis and Beerus.
Who's the strongest villian? Easy: the last one.
Who's the strongest good guy? Easy: the one who killed the last villain.
Andew, Seventh Sun of Edwad Tell that to Buuhan.
Lol a loop answer
Andew, Seventh Sun of Edwad zeno
omegasuperfoo9 he never killed anyone
omegasuperfoo9 Ssj4 Gogeta reks Vegito.
Majin buu spit himself out, beat his own ass, then absorbed himself again.
Lol that's an interesting way of putting it.
Kevin Ford . well your not wrong Lol
Then he split, the other half beat the shit out of him, then dies
Then he split, the other half beat the shit out of him, then dies
@@specialbeamvegeta4059 not even what happened
Omega shenron on budokai 3 in dragon arena, on lvl 99...
...ragequit for days
Ahh the memories. Easily one of the toughest fights. And the one he uses the heart virus.
O.o fo definitely that drove me crazy trying to defeat him
Eh i never had any difficulty.
Bruv, I was like 12 but I didn’t even bother to start that match up. Impossible.
Ahhh 2005 good times
I gotta admit even tho I didn’t like GT, the villains in GT were way more creative then the villains in super
That's because super just has one (original) villain zamasu
@@TenkabitoShien I would disagree there cause Zamasu is an evil kaioshin which took over gokus body which gave us an evil goku.
We already had an evil Goku in Turles, and the concept of evil kais were created I think around 2008-9
@@briangarcia1975 that's why i specifically said zamasu. Plus he isnt an evil goku, its zamasu that stole goku's body and before universe zamasu goku black's part of fusion zamasu was dead anyways
@@briangarcia1975 Goku Black was a very well antagonist tbh. Honestly Super had the better protagonist such as Hit, Toppo, Beerus, Whis, Broly, Jiren (his story was trash), Cabba, and honestly if you think GT had the better villains you need to check out the manga in dbs it's much better well except the TOP chapter but a new Villoan is Moro and he's a unique character
Super really didn’t have villains, just rivals
Omega Shenron's presence was rotting the galaxy, so he's a pretty dangerous being
bloodraptor3000 you mean the universe
Jehad Sayar he wasn’t wrong, galaxies exist within a universe. So if a universe is decaying so is the galaxy
The death note was never intended for humans tho
@@Eli-akad shut up, plz
Bit late to the party here but Omega was also decaying the Sacred World of the Kais which exists outside the universe and orbits universe 7's macrocosm
I still think the whole concept of omega shenron and that whole arc in general is genius. Execution? Thats debatable wether its great or not BUT the idea itself is awesome.
imo the first half or so of the arc was prolly the worst part of GT (writing-wise, even though the concept was great). Once they got to Nuova Shenron, everything got better from there, very compelling and had a strong ending. In all, I give the arc a 6 or 7 out of 10
Freddy Gabriel i liked it but the fact that a charcter absorbed the Dragon Balls,he shoulda been higher than a God. Ss4 gogeta woulda paled in comparison. They could have at least made them on par though bc its illogical how a potarra fusion is more powerful than the dragonballs. Omega shenron was absorbing the magic of the Dragon Balls. If it wasnt for plot and rushed fight then it would been better.
@@tiablue9106I agree that the writing in the first part of the arc was shit but from Nuova Shenron onwards it just got very generic, Nuova and Eis shenron struggle over having an honourable fight vs just getting the job done has popped up in so much Japanese media that it's not even a joke and Omega Sheron strong or not was just boring, he had zero personality or reason for doing what he was doing, GT only decent portion was the Baby Saga.
@@c-man2475 King Picollo Killed Shenron with one blast, the idea that these Shadow Dragons were so strong in the first place was just wrong by any metric you can use.
kinganarkzie
Well i can try to explain it like this....
The dragon balls themselves is the most powerful object in db universe. Shenron the dragon is just the guardian and Kami is just the creator of the dragonballs. All them wishes people made gave the dragon balls more negative energy so it shouldn't matter how strong the guardian or creator is because the power of the negative energy is not connected to the strength of the guardian. The guardian Dragon is the one thats supposed to be the same powerlevel as the creator of the dragon balls not the dragon balls themselves. The Dragon just unlocks the magic so they can be used for the specific wish. As we saw in Gt,the dragon doesnt have the power to stop the negative energy from escaping once the balls have been used for too often.
So when negative energy escapes it turns into dark magic in dragon-like forms and these dragons would be very powerful causing havoc etc like we saw in Gt.
Only thing about Gt is the shadow dragons should have been alot harder to beat especially with all the wishes they made. Especially when Syn absorded the dragon balls,he should have been a God. I guess Omega Shenron couldnt tap into the magic of the dragonballs, he could only use the negative energy created from them. Either way he got beat too easily bc plot and i think the fight could have gone better.
Omega Shenron was the Thanos of DragonBall History He Used The Dragon Balls and Absorbed Every Dragons Abilities
@John Moreno yeah he basically more like darkseid
Actually Super Janemba was the Thanos of DragonBall history (Infinity Gauntlet Thanos to be specific), Omega Shenron was more like the Darkseid of DragonBall history.
Shenron isn’t that strong lol
@@christiananderson3371you must be joking
I for one actually like GT, yeah it’s not as good as DBZ but it’s definitely not as bad as people seem to think, the Baby saga and Dark Dragon saga are pretty awesome
But does anyone actually remember the Super 17 Saga? And remember how much the Black Star Dragon Ball saga dragged? There was also plenty of moments that shouldn't have been played for laughs that were. Like Omega Shenron VS Gogeta.
@@wisemankugelmemicus1701 but that's what makes Gogeta SS4 so memorable, the amount of screen time he got was minimal, but he definitely balanced out such a serious arc. Maybe that's why alot of people liked DB GT, because of Gogeta alone 👍
Wisemankugel Memicus 17 arc is a bit lowballed by some people.
@@bigb2610 the thing that made ssj4 gogeta memorable is the games
hes carried by them
“One would think two super saiyan 4s would be enough nope they get molly whopped 😂😂😂”
That's a direct translation from the manga
@@Double0hobo ahahaha u gotta be joking right?
@@etam8099 From the manga:
Goku: vegeta! We’re getting molly whopped!
Vegeta: frfr! No cap! Sheesh!
(Source: trust me bro)
Which is obviously trash. Ss4 Goku should be able to defeat him. Omega just fan made character. Which why I don’t respect fan made villains they always try to make them the toughest of the tough. And not just make them strikg
@@MrJukeMasterDBD what? Fan made?
I love that you do stuff on gt without any bias. A lot of people hate gt, I for one thought bits of it were good. Also I wish when shenron became omega he changed his appearance much more
yes it's hard to note any difference after transformation except dragon balls on his chest, but he actually look slightly different if you compare him with his previous form.
GT was ok despite it's share of problems. The biggest problems were that it placed too much focus on Goku like DBZ did and the fact that he never turned back into an adult permanently until 100 years after he defeated Omega Shenron.
In my opinion, the animation in GT looked better than Super's because it was an updated version of DBZ's while Super's look similar to Kai's. Toei for some reason made the fighters look slimmer now from how they looked before.
That´s is to make it more accessible for a younger audience, the same happened to Saint Seiya, the animation on GT was great yeah but it was made for a different generation
*Syn Shenron *Omega Shenron
This type of story needs to be revisited. The Dragons/DragonBall’s are WAY too interesting and mysterious not to be brought back in some capacity like this.
You're right!
The super dragon balls exist.
Nah it's just namekian magic
TheKatanarama Yeah but ZUNO referred to Super Shenron as Zalama
I hope not tbh that would suck if super ever stole this idea i would cry i love the shadow dragons but i dont want super to be so unoriginal that it steals ideas
The last part of GT was epic. Omega/Yi shenlong was the perfect villain to end the original series.
Hamza Adrees he didn't live up to his hype imo. And his character is lacking in terms of development compared to cell, frieza, etc.
J The Gray he was around for 6-7 eps bro.
Infamous Barz I wouldn't mind small things be incorporated or inspired by GT like that robot god of destruction. Maybe lol
J The Gray and the mind parasite baby callback
J The Gray LMAO says the guy called j the gray.
Just get cancer 😀
I know a lot of people hate GT but honestly I thought the shadow dragon concept was brilliant and hope they do something similar in Super. Teaching them not to rely on the Dragonballs to insta fix everything is a great lesson. Honestly in the past stuff went down that seemed like the end (King Piccolo's first rule) and even though tons of people died earth recovered over time.
You're wrong there's a lot of people who love Dragon Ball GT so much of them that it's hard to even count the whole point is that that they just been hiding away for a while because that a lot of people would criticize them and destroy their love for something
Toyotaro or Toriyama will find a way.
Digital Adventurer You’d be surprised that Gt has more fans than haters
I loved gt man that’s just my opinion but I enjoy a lot of it when I was a kid the space travel was really boring and the fact Goku being a kid which is understood but some of it was great I think they should redo it with Toriyama involved it would be great
GT could’ve been better tho like the episodes are honestly not intense or interesting but who knows they might make ssj4 cannon soon since they are probably bringing Bardock back
Omega shenrons design is freaking epic. I always loved when he told SSJ4 Gogeta to shut up after getting trolled by him.
Imagine if this dark energy was the type of thing that caused Zeno to get upset and destroy 6 Universes...
Lol
I think Omega's voice in the funimation dub was epic.
It sound too much like Piccolo
@@Mandalore_ultimatethey have the same voice actor
@@rickyronny4019 Which is why the Japanese voice actor is a lot better
@@Mandalore_ultimate I disagree. I prefer the English voice actors
Omega shenron is still my favorite villain in gt because he was a really tough opponent for everyone
Probably the main reason i like jiren
And the only one after cell and piccolo to actually kill goku directly
Baby was better villian
What if the Final Villain of Dragon Ball Super will come from those huge Super Dragon Balls?
Can we call him Super Omega Shenron and he will be as strong as Grand Priest or even Zeno.
that would be a straight up recycled idea...i don't think they'd do something that dopey
@@no1guy825 you clearly haven’t watched dragon ball super if you think recycled ideas is something they wouldn’t do
@@stevefilms1997 they retconned GT for a reason lol.
They already did when Zeno erased those 6 Universes
@@imhappy._. here are the multiple timelines (dimensions):
Dragonball/Dragonball Z/Dragonball Online (Xeno Timeline)
Dragonball GT
Dragonball Super
Meta Timeline
Capsule Corps. Timeline
I guarantee the influence of our gods of destruction in DBS , came from Omega Shenron. It wouldn’t be wrong to say Omega Shenron is the first god of destruction we ever saw in the entire franchise. You can’t tell me Toriyama didn’t get the ideas from Omega Shenron and his dialogue
I miss Gogeta.. Also SSJ4.. That form is sooo freaking dope!
I love the form and looks way more then SSG.
Even if I was Saiyan, and had access to SSG/Blue/Ultra Instinct, I'd make Ssj4 my go to form. I don't care what anyone would say.
@@prestongiles9917 Yes, big power increase, no drawbacks. Though I do love me self some Ultra Instinct
Big B ultra instinct ssj4 boiii lol
@@prestongiles9917 UI isn't a form, it's an ability
@@statesminds That wouldn't work due to the similarity to Kaioken being unusable when in SSJ forms (exception of SSG and SSB) and being unable to build the Spirit Bomb while transformed, but it would undeniably look badass
Has anyone thought about the fact that Frieza could have flashback about the kaioken x20 and the Genkidama when he is going to see them in the next episode?
Dude, Frieza having flashbacks would be so awesome, the long running joke of how Goku beat him being brought back in episodes 109-110 would be greaaaat. I can see him with that scared face, then the flashback of the spirit bomb and goku saying Friiieeezzzzaaaa....this would make the series for me.
Goku: Kaioken...
Vegeta: ...No...
Goku: Tiiiiiimes...
Beerus: No no no...
Goku: TWENTEEEEEEEEEEEH-GENKI DAMA!
Frieza: *_primal screech_*
Remember that Goku also did the kaioken x20 against Frieza
That would be epic; also after Jiren cucks that shit, I'd love them to focus on his reaction.
Nitram Awesome
Goku: kaioken x20
Frezia: I am having a sence of deja vu
Goku: *making spirit bomb*
Frezia: .....[internal ptsd screaming]
Popo is strongest of all
Pickle Rick!! Pecking Order.
He low key is
Its not the fact that he is strong, its the fact that he is a pure master of techniques.. he is a being devised too train and help grow every guardians power, that is why he was able too hold off two little super Saiyan's and also swallows Goku's Kamehameha wave.
I think I just got whoooooshed, damnit
Nope its Chamba
I'm the strongest in history fam
The Legendary Negro Saiyan Shit!!! Nigga pull up meet me at kami house
Bruh I remember seeing you in the episode 30s to 50s reviews. How's it been?
Can I be the 3rd strongest buttt I am fusion of broly and kale
Mr. Negi Generation 3000 would stomp.
spreading cheeks doesn't count
I could actually imagine omega as a god of destruction
more intimidating than any other original G.O.Ds and maybe even more than beerus
@@devilfromhell8546 👎
I can imagine Omega Shenron, Super Janemba, Kid Buu, and original Broly being Gods of Absolute Total Destruction, not mere G.O.Ds
@@devilfromhell8546 IMO Beerus isn't intimidating since he's lazy and he also isn't the most powerful G.O.D
@@devilfromhell8546 i agree
@@devincampbell5007 he is the most powerful... in the manga aka canon at least
Even though the execution is sloppy at times, the idea of having our heroes fight literal embodiments of the consequences of their actions over the whole story is a great way to end DB. An unexpected and poetic final challenge to overcome: the dragon balls themselves. Feels like it's the only way it could have ever ended.
Shame that now it doesn't count.
maybe by "cosmos" they meant the space-time around the planet destroyed, wich means that the planet was totally erased, creating a region of absolute void.
SSJ4 Gogeta vs Omega was such a fun fight to watch, loved that Gogeta had so much humor when fighting him
His Toxic aura alone would’ve destroyed the universe
Imagine being so evil and corrupted and powerful that your literal EXISTENCE is destroying everything in the universe
If we assume the gods from Super were there in GT behind the scenes, being less involved, then if it got to the point where Omega was going to destroy the universe, it would only take one hakai from Beerus to end him.
@@aliveandwellinisrael2507 Not if he's sleeping his lazy ass off
@@aliveandwellinisrael2507 Sadly, Syn Shenron would take Beerus' lunch money. Base GT Goku destroyed a dimension with a Kamehameha -- it's just a completely different power scale.
@torusato743 What happened with Moro?
They used positive or plus energy to kill him. I can just imagine him screaming “it’s too positive!!!!”.
omega: SHOOT THE GOOD VIBES *explodes*
@@mithmoonwalker Omega Shenron did not pass the vibe check.
u could argue that omega shinron is a fused character too
digunder14 he absorbed the dragon balls not the other dragons themselves
Austin Tweedy debatable because he absorbs their powers as well like regeneration
Piccolo already described it:
"Assimilation"
It's more like Cell with the Androids.
Back then it was simple, who ever is the latest is the strongest.
It wasn't the case in the Buu arc already. Buuhan was the most powerful villain in Z, while Vegito was the most powerful being in Z - meanwhile the last serious battle was between Goku and Kid Buu.
Also Babadi and his henchman when they came to earth to revive Buu were weaker than perfect Cell. I would argue that Android 19 and 20 were weaker than Frieza but isn’t super clear. Still 2 clear examples in a series (Z) with 3-4 main arcs.
Martin Ramirez kid buu was only more dangerous and unstable not stronger
@Martin Ramirez good joke kid
@Martin Ramirez Kid Buu isn't the strongest. Goku knew he didn't stand a chance against Super Buu on his own and knew he had to fuse with Vegeta to even have a chance against him and he confidently fought against Kid Buu in his SS3 form.
Oh shit this gonna be a great video. I luv Omega Shenron.
Same man. Such a great villain to end the series.
Hamza Adrees
I agree 👍
Andy DBvet 1989 me too
Hamza Adrees I like him as well but Baby Is still the best Villain GT had imo
Andy DBvet 1989 Hell yeah my favorite characters from GT where Ledgic, Baby, Omega Shenron Nova Shenron.
Omega was pretty amazing. TWO Super Saiyan 4s couldn't touch him, even with Goku being empowered by the other earth Saiyans (fun fact, they were actually one shy of making Goku a Super Saiyan God, hehehe). But also, he did not fuck around. Goku and Vegeta fused ONCE, and it was nearly the end of him. He devoted the rest of the fight to making sure the pair of them didn't do it again, because he knew on Round 2 Gogeta would go straight for the throat.
Boss Rabbit is the strongest villain. One touch and you will turn into a carrot.
Lol so true 🤣🤣🤣.... i really forget about him 😂
Yep hes strongest mortal and true ultra instinct amd ultra ego😂😂
Who else was waiting for a geekdom video🙋
I got off of Geekdom101 videos for this so this better be good
wait....
Lol
hold up
this comment is retarded
+xXAngel_torresXx
It's just a social experiment my man.
I wonder how powerful he would be if he was canon in future Dragon Ball series, since Super is over.
The best moment in GT is when Mr Satan takes a hard kick in the gut from Omega Shenron but is totally fine afterwards. That confirmed to me that Mr Satan is truly immortal
This is a great idea for a villain that can be brought into super. Super struggles to create villains that are believable in their power because of how strong goku and vegeta have become. It’s just hard to believe that there is a god of destruction level character just wandering the universe that hasn’t been discovered yet.
imagine after several arcs the dragon balls break revealing the shadow dragons
@@mithmoonwalker The Super Dragon Balls specifically
We just need series that starts from zero then with a new character or someone who isn't like gohan who has other responsibilities.
@@devincampbell5007yeh regular dragon balls not a threat
Good series, do a video on Dr. Rota next
Mr. Perfect Cell lmao
I knew he was universal but I completely forgot he could destroy Kai realm as well
"Omega Shenron, otherwise known as Yi Xing Long." Correction, Omega Shenron is Super Yi Xing Long.
I'm still really hoping they reuse the ideas in the Shadow Dragon arc. The idea of the Dragon Balls creating the ultimate enemies for the series really makes sense and should be the way Super ends. Plus the idea of the balls being way overused and creating negative energy as a result, really makes a lot of sense. Before Goku and Bulma the Dragon Balls were almost never used, but during the series they're used almost as much as they possibly can be used. It makes sense that they would become corrupt over time.
While it's impossible to deny that the God of Destruction title was not invented, it is possible that Shenron actually does possess Divine energy as he comes from the wish orbs, which were created with Divine Kai energy, meaning that he basically has the opposite of the Kais in terms of energy, much like a God of Destruction has ki opposite to the creative ki of the Kais
Always like the Dokkan Battle art.
BBGuard SP indeed
That game takes up way too much space.
Akatsuki Nate Not really, maybe because I hardly download apps
Geekdom: this guy wasn't playing around like majin buu.
Me: flashbacks when he destroyed earth with no hesitation and maniacal laughter.
To be fair, the 3 other versions of buu, fat, skinny, super, all fucked around... will I guess skinny didn’t since he was only around for two minuets.
What a great video. No hate on GT whatsoever.
Geekdom is the most "unhateable" guy in the DB community imo
Wish the GT villains can somehow make it into Super. I really like their character and backstory
Remember when a power level of 10 million was INSANE?
A powerlevel of 10 million nowadays will get you smacked
Wasn’t raditz like 1,000 power level ? XD
@@canalrandom1016 Yup. So, 100 million would be 100.000 times Raditz. Something doesn't add up.
will seth debunk this?
xD
Edit:Meant to be joke.. im so not funny
EmeraldGamez-Minecraft PvP you have to be wrong to be debunked
There nothing to debunk here. He said at the start to ignore super and just focus on DBZ and GT. Too many GT haters for no reason.
ryan king 1 it stated right there in the series, that his negative energy can destroy the universe, yet you choose to remain ignorant and hate on GT. Keep hating, you fucking hater. FUCK YOU! 🖕🖕
Geekdom101 nothing to debunk. This is a series called "Strongest in Dragonball". He's not claiming that Omega is the strongest in dragonball.
Omega Shenron exists in GT verse, which follows the old 4 galaxy model, before the canon universe was confirmed to be like ours.
Even if his universe attack was instant, it'd be a galaxy+feat, but that's with a bit of wank.
Gt had the best lore / plot tbh.
Amazing villain designs & concepts. Quintessential future cool.
deaging goku is terrible. We see goku grow over time, and he litterary grew With us. All his Growth and strenght just dissapear. GT and super is terrible, and it should have stopped where it orignally did. smh.
GT did many things good. but at the time it execute them in really bad way.
really good way to tie in and expand the Lore. at the same time. ruins and underplays some parts.
7 Shadow dragons appeared ?
goku goes after all of them alone.. instead I don't know...
use the other 6 fighters to fight each dragon alone ?( Gohan - Vegeta - Trunks - Gotten - Uub- Pan )
but no it's Goku time.
and that ambiguous ending that no one really knows what really happened. List goes on
@@hmmmm8816 "popo get the first aid kit" that dosent mean he cant heal there is worse in super tbh like vegeta not lifting 1000 tons and goku bleeding from a bullet which not even kid goku bled from bullets i could go on the power scale is trash
@@SunnyOddny well gt litterally came out immedietly after the end of z
It's poethic that Omega Shenron, a being of pure negativity, is destroyed by a Genki Dama, a technique fueled by pure positivity.
Omega Sheron was scary AF plus he was a God like villain
Thank you geekdom for making this vid I love Dragonball GT!!!!!!!
Yamcha: hey vegeta how much is my power level
Vegeta: look outside and count the stars
Yamcha: but it's day so nothing is out there
Yamcha: oh oh shit
Vegeta: exactly bro
I would like the joke if it was less African American.
Lol
JThe Prophet thats deep bro
I'm jokin. I am African American
You're an uncle tom.
The sun's a star you moron lol and technically the stars are still there we just can't see them cuz of the giant star that literally supports life on the planet😂😂😂😂
still no trace of the namekians
Exactly
It's going to be a longer tournament than we think
Jp Legend well was it?
Although the show and layout of events wasn't very good, the concept of the shadow dragons was very cool. The idea using the main story point too much no matter how good the reason results in these evil creatures. Omega shenron was evil and didn't screw around unlike all the other villains. That's why he was so scary. He didn't want to play games like cell, he wanted to eliminate all who oppose him and allow darkness to be all that exists.
This is my absolute favorite Dragon Ball channel. You're videos are the best. 9
I love the videos like this that you do.
ss4>ssb
keep dreaming fanboy
Gandalf the White. Yes he did get hurt by a LASER which is better then getting hurt by glass
Gandalf the White. Lol well goku wasn't even trying against Kale so I wouldn't call it lost when kale didn't even scratch him
EDWARD Hohenheim ssj 4 is a amazing transformation. Super did a better job getting everybody involved.
Zarama Gexcior They got everyone involved in super more than Gt. In Gt goku was the only threat until vegeta became ssj 4 for four episodes. The rest of the z warriors just complete unless.
Geekdom the G.O.A.T
Since Omega Shenron came from overusing the regular dragon ball. I always wondered what were to happen if let's say if you overused the Namekain dragon balls, or the Super dragon balls. I know the whole negative energy thing is exclusive to GT but you know just a thought lol
Super Omega Shenron... that's terrifying, absolutely insane. Considering the dragon balls are as strong as the creator, dende is nothing compared to even sayain saga characters, yet omega is universal. So imagine a multiversal level being making the dragon balls. Omega might even be complex multiversal or 4 to 5 Dimensonal at that point. We would all just Die immediately.
Yo Geekdom what's up Bruh Love The Official Dragonball Content much Respect Fam😎
Excellent work my brother
The cosmos is simply outer space that would include every solar system every Galaxy and every universe all make up the cosmos
I'm early let me make a joke...
Goku beating Jiren
Jiren curbstomps, at least to start with.
You know what a better joke is:
Plott armor.
Omega is universal it took the universe to take him down! An the out put of ki is always higher than durability shown plenty of times in dragon Ball
That's a cool term. The Dragonball renissance. I've never heard that before but it's pretty accurate considering all the new content we've received. Also your outro music is great anyone know the name if the song?
Great video and explanation.
I think hes universal level. just with his presence his negative energy would eventually engulf the galaxy and then another
This man Omega Shenron is OP asf he got all of the shadow dragons powers and his own he is the second strongest character in the DB universe next to Gogeta SS4
That's quite possiblity the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Anyone from DBS that is > Base Goku is above EVERYONE in GT by 10x effortlessly
GT power scaling is higher than super as base gt goku was stronger than ssj3 z goku. So ssj4 is ssj3 z goku x 4000. Ssj4 is 4000xbase.
darrenraphael current base goku absorbed the power of god which bit him septillions strongee than ssj3 z goku in base form and can still go ssj ssj2 SSJ3 ssg and ssb so 4000 is incredibly weak
Moses Afful Gt base goku is as strong as saiyan beyond god goku. Anyway, goku in super has 2 base forms, one with god energy and one without god energy.
Counterexample: Zeno-sama.
I'm tired of hearing spirit bomb. Imo the spirit bomb should be in obsolete with these power levels.
No longer teased...
Great video!
So in a nut shell Omega Shenron is GTs verison of Zamasu but not as effective. Lol
Anyway this was an amazing video Geekdom! Thanks for all your hard work!!
Still hyped for that Toonami video!!
Yall can stay hatin. GT was good, yall just upset someone else wrote it.
@@Daniel-oq6fv lol it was actually terrible. I’m a huge fan of all things dragon Ball. But it was actually terrible.
@@PerfectCellzarnope you're just bad at picking good content, gt was a masterpiece
Mahoganny..
And not just any Mahogany, but mahogany from the planet Malchior 7 where the trees are 300 feet tall and breathe fire. 🌲🔥
What if the tournament ring was made of mahogany?
Pure Rage Not even Jiren would be able to damage it.
I get it, it’s a beautiful desk, but can I just go to heave-
Fredrick Fraser mahogany
SSJ4 Gogeta is always be the strongest of all
Geekdom 101= content king!
Omega shenron is my fav villain. The whole shadow dragons concept was genius.
Omega and SSJ4 Gogeta are the only things I liked about GT.
Omega, Baby, and SS4 are all great. The story line was the disappointing side.
THEORY QUESTION:
Do you think Universe 6 will overuse their dragonballs and create a universe 6 Omega Shenron?
Kuribohchaos8 no
Spider-Ben Hold On he might be onto something, Champa finds out about the dragon balls in his universe and since he can’t keep his mouth shut he lets everyone know. Everyone fights for the dragon balls which causes them to crack and become corrupted.
What the hell are y'all talking about! It's up to Akira and the dev's
"The history of the balls"
lol
Omega Shenron was always one of my favorite GT villains, I honestly hope he shows up in FighterZ.
Me too
todays my birthday and i just want to say thank you for what you done i love your video and dont stop being awesome
👀 i see you using some dokkan art man! 😍 love it. Btw do you still play the game?
Seeing as general rildo was stronger than kid buu and he was the first main bad guy of the series omega shenron was easily 20x kid buu
Oh so you mean GT followed Dragon Balls lore to the end? It combined DB and DBZ stylistically and thats why DBZ fans hate it. Most never actually watched DragonBall. GT actually stays true to DBZ while Super does not yet somehow one of Super fans #1 arguments is GT isnt loyal to the source material, therefore not canon. How?
Yin Shilong/Omega Shenron is my favorite villain.
Super sucks ass! Toriyama fucked up making it take place BEFORE Z ends. Proving he's a MORON
ASMR Ross technically he didn't make it, he's just supervising it
no..... u meant to say JIREN is my favourite villain. Well not a villain but yeah
People don't hate GT because of its ideas. They hate it because the execution sucked. The fight's aren't about skill like in DB, but also lack the speed of Z. Besides the fighting, the animation was much poorer compared to Z, the ideas for the arcs were not fully realized, and the comical parts weren't really funny. It also lacked real breakout characters to help push the new direction of the series. Z had Vegeta, Trunks, and Gohan. Super has Beerus, Whis, and Hit. GT has Pan and Uub, but I don't think they're as highly praised as Vegeta or Beerus.
Goku:I wish to be Rich
Shenron:that is beyond my power
Me: did you not make a dragon that can take on two ssj4
Shenron: will you look at the time I gtg
You just earned a sub good sir!:)
Omega Shenron just by standing there doing nothing can destroy the universe, Dragonball gt was universal. Movie characters and moves do show up, and you can argue some of these movies share a continuity as the same movie character shows up in a few of them. Icarus is in 3 of them and the garlic jr arcs Sacred Water is in GT. Cooler is in GT.
Omega Shenron was fuckin OP in Budokai 3!
Tatsuo Static he was!
Started on max ki automatically if I'm not mistaken, him & Kid Buu used to bring me to literal tears of frustration back in the day 😂
I don't care what people say GT is the true continuation to Z.
gt has the better story even though the first arc was boring. Super is too strong now and doesn’t make sense
That's not an opinion, but a fact. The GT episode 1 preview even appears at the end of DBZ.
@@nocappin9596 GT has the same problem with being too strong and having non-sensical power-ups, but the overall story still works I guess.
*NO SHIT SHERLOCK* 🕵️♀️
I love the Dokkan Card Arts you put in this video.
I love it how geekdom uses dokkan photos as thumbnails
Who else thinks that Dragon Ball GT should have been one of the alternate universes like Universe 6 for example?
Like if you agree. 😡
I LOVE DRAWING FAN MADE ART.
DRAW DAILY That wouldn't make any sense. That's not how the universes work in Super.
jmac28211 bro I know that I'm saying before they decided to make it the way that it is. They could have decided to make the alternate universe GT
DRAW DAILY I was thinking that but universes don't work like that thats more like a parallel universe
Not an alternate universe but an alternate timeline that’s would fit perfectly like future Trunks timeline
The most are we getting is from Xenoverse which treats GT as an alternative timeline, heck GT characters have unique interactions with Whis and Beerus.
You think Omega Shenron destroying a galaxy is impressive? Broly destroyed a galaxy and he’s weak by GT standards
Omega was destroying the universe by just existing. Broly had to blow up stuff with ki blasts.
This comment tells me you didn’t pay attention to the video
GT was the best era of DB. The translation to English was just really poor.
And not to forget heavily censored
Literally every other dragon ball series is better
Ur mom Fat not super
Wasn't the parallel universe thing hinted in some filler-episodes or movies/Specials?
I love how you're using screenshots from Dokkan.
Speaking of which, will you return to making videos on Dokkan?