Surface Duo 2: Can This Be Saved?

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  • Опубліковано 20 жов 2021
  • Microsoft Surface Duo 2 is both better... and worse? Does this dual screen passport fold have a future?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 8 тис.

  • @Flow_Easy
    @Flow_Easy 2 роки тому +694

    The best way to describe this phone?
    "The operation was a success, but the patient died" 🤣🤣

    • @kingjulien9525
      @kingjulien9525 2 роки тому +31

      I work in healthcare, I couldn't stop laughing about your comment 😅🤣😷. In better term, instead of died, we say "expired". ✊🏾✌🏾

    • @calchen7275
      @calchen7275 2 роки тому +2

      Lol, you just said exactly what everyone was thinking.

    • @mokaLARE
      @mokaLARE 2 роки тому +2

      😂

    • @gowthamgudur4056
      @gowthamgudur4056 2 роки тому +2

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @mj4_1
      @mj4_1 2 роки тому +2

      @@kingjulien9525 lmaoo

  • @TheGroovyGuitarDude
    @TheGroovyGuitarDude 2 роки тому +4933

    The novelty of a device like this is cool, but definitely not $1500 cool.

    • @mxbblife_mu
      @mxbblife_mu 2 роки тому +87

      Cooler than the iPhone13 Pro Max at the same price

    • @petepowaaa
      @petepowaaa 2 роки тому +148

      @@mxbblife_mu Nice meme

    • @Follower_Of_Xi_Jinping_Pooh
      @Follower_Of_Xi_Jinping_Pooh 2 роки тому +3

      Form factor is actually close to Samsung Note gen 1 when folded.
      146.9 x 83 x 9.7 mm VS 145.2 x 92.1 x 11 mm (folded)

    • @artin5146
      @artin5146 2 роки тому

      Ah dude your falling down by xxxtentacion video got me into playing guitar.

    • @siipi6331
      @siipi6331 2 роки тому +9

      That's not expensive, tho. I have waited a lot for this device. The user experience is perfect.

  • @paulgraham6134
    @paulgraham6134 2 роки тому +335

    I think this does have a possible utility for the office environment. When I was working in a physical office, I would have loved to have this device for all my meetings. It doesn't take up too much space, I can review an agenda on one side, write notes, or work with my project management software on the other side. I could see it being additionally the perfect device for a business lunch, big enough for accessing and sharing key documents and information, but not as challenging as everyone with laptops or even large tablets. If they ditch the cell phone capacity, and the camera tech, focus on Microsoft productivity (lower the price) maybe they could possibly champion this as a portable business tablet... the focus being on business....though I did enjoy seeing how it can be used as a video game console.

    • @sjpachica3
      @sjpachica3 2 роки тому +21

      I definitely see the vision of this device as "future of work/office mobile computing"

    • @impulsiveurge5837
      @impulsiveurge5837 2 роки тому +13

      i hate the camera bump, you buy this for productivity not to take selfies.

    • @triciap3803
      @triciap3803 2 роки тому +4

      I totally agree, it's more for business or for people like myself that doesn't do much picture taking but likes the option if I randomly need it and use it more for bills and such. I always have the aftershock bone conducting Bluetooth headset on for calls so rarely would I need to put it up to my ear. And let's face it phones or tablets have their own set of glitches, likes and dislikes and to often people expect devices to do it all like waving a magic wand and that just isn't realistic. Everyone is different so what one might love someone else might not. I think we need to look at it's main purpose and stop expecting the impossible. I've been a Samsung owner for a long time but with that said I don't like everything about it, it just is what it is. 🤷‍♀️

    • @hoangnguyennguyen1032
      @hoangnguyennguyen1032 2 роки тому +12

      @@impulsiveurge5837 hmm. Maybe just one little camera dedicated to scanning documents? That can be really neat. Just enough for office use.

    • @impulsiveurge5837
      @impulsiveurge5837 2 роки тому +2

      @@hoangnguyennguyen1032 Just a better selfie camera. If possible since they are tiny, they could make them two, front and back so you dont have to flip to take a pic.

  • @HistorySkills
    @HistorySkills 2 роки тому +138

    Just received my first Surface Duo today. I have owned am iPhone, various Samsung and Nokia Android devices and even a few Windows phones. The Duo 2 is amazing and I have loved using it more than any phone I have had in a long time. I was nervous after watching so many negative reviews, but I must say that the reviewers haven't done this device justice: it is a superb experience.

    • @WaffleusRex
      @WaffleusRex 2 роки тому +12

      Same here. Loving mine so far. About two weeks into owning mine now. Very glad I switched to one. I get that it's not for everyone but it suits my use case.

    • @HistorySkills
      @HistorySkills 2 роки тому +11

      Battery lasts all day, easily.

    • @ronkemp9528
      @ronkemp9528 2 роки тому +14

      Software updates have fixed the Duo 99%.

    • @abcdelicious4420
      @abcdelicious4420 Рік тому +2

      @@HistorySkills, just wondering how your experience is with the Surface Duo 2 now?? I have been enamored with this device since it came and now with the price drop to about $1000 and the multiple updates, I've heard that this is running a lot better. I would love to get your thoughts or anyone who actually owns this as I am thinking about getting this as my backup device, thanks. 📱📱❤️❤️❤️❤️

    • @HistorySkills
      @HistorySkills Рік тому +1

      @@abcdelicious4420 Still a massive fan, even after all this time. I had to swap back to a Galaxy device for short time and I genuinely missed the two screens. While it's not for everyone, it is a superb piece of tech to own. Best of luck with the decision-making.

  • @mucr9sventy
    @mucr9sventy 2 роки тому +446

    Marques sounds like a reality show judge trying to be nice to an awkward performance 😅 he's really holding back words 😅

  • @MrBhong2000
    @MrBhong2000 2 роки тому +676

    Everyone in Microsoft who’s responsible for the development of the first duo should be forced to use it as their primary phone for at least a year so they can have a taste of their own medicine

    • @betafi4535
      @betafi4535 2 роки тому +21

      lmao

    • @whosdondada
      @whosdondada 2 роки тому +7

      😂😂😂

    • @jonbp1993
      @jonbp1993 2 роки тому +52

      They would probably miss their iPhones too much

    • @MrBhong2000
      @MrBhong2000 2 роки тому +18

      @@jonbp1993 they’d probably quit their jobs just to avoid using it themselves

    • @thecoishiking5768
      @thecoishiking5768 2 роки тому +20

      A lot of the time people are designated onto a project like this against their will and then they are given a very demanding timeframe. They had at best a year to significantly improve a device that was under spec and completely different to anything before it in microsoft's catalogue. Forcing people who didn't even want to work on it to now have to use it is just cruel

  • @stevehoot99
    @stevehoot99 2 роки тому +322

    It's a Microsoft product, so it's really in beta until at least version 3.
    I actually really like it. Get rid of the waterfall glass edge and go back to straight, plonk a flip3 style mini-screen on the front. The camera... honestly I'm wondering if they couldn't just move the current array in Duo 2 into the bezel where the selfie camera resides (and replace it). Don't see why you need both a front-facing and a rear facing camera array when you have two screens that can face opposing directions. Surely you can just use one screen when taking the picture?
    Do this for Duo 3, keep the price the same or less and I'd be tempted.

    • @KianF
      @KianF 2 роки тому +9

      I remember the original surface had it’s flaws for a couple of versions before it became a decent product. I owned the original surface pro and it had the thickest bezels, the mic was placed right next to the exhaust fans, it got insanely hot and the kickstand was terrible. It may be the same way with this thing, although I’m not as confident in this.

    • @MrDabrain75
      @MrDabrain75 2 роки тому +2

      I think if they include a very good glass screen protector, so you could leave it open. And do the cameras like you said. They could get costs down and make it more seemless.

    • @PSYCHOV3N0M
      @PSYCHOV3N0M 2 роки тому

      @@MrDabrain75 Seamless.
      NOT seemless.

    • @zayn4519
      @zayn4519 2 роки тому +5

      @@PSYCHOV3N0M okay google

    • @mrtrailexplorer2004
      @mrtrailexplorer2004 2 роки тому

      @@KianF Original Surface Pro devices still going strong. Great hardware, awful kickstand

  • @tech_obsessed
    @tech_obsessed Рік тому +68

    I absolutely love the Surface Duo 2 and I cannot wait to see how this thing builds out with future updates.

    • @jasonlaughton7590
      @jasonlaughton7590 Рік тому

      Hi how do you like the surface duo 2 is it any gd

    • @ZeFoxito
      @ZeFoxito 8 місяців тому +7

      Comments that aged poorly

    • @yorgohoebeke
      @yorgohoebeke 7 місяців тому

      @@ZeFoxito hahahahahaha

  • @calvinswank1754
    @calvinswank1754 2 роки тому +287

    My first time hearing Marques say: “I haven’t had it for very long” for any product he reviewed on.

    • @NickRaven
      @NickRaven 2 роки тому +9

      I understand he gets twice as many views for making a video about a product 10 minutes after he opens the package and then later in an actual, conclusive review, but this is really just disingenuous. Mr. Mobile really does it the best way: one definitive video.

    • @LucaDinhNguyen
      @LucaDinhNguyen 2 роки тому

      Techtober must be busy haha

    • @TheEGames
      @TheEGames 2 роки тому

      it’s not the full review

    • @bradavon
      @bradavon 2 роки тому +2

      All his reviews he's not had them very long, two weeks tops. Do you know if you properly like or dislike a new purchase in that short a time?

    • @bradavon
      @bradavon 2 роки тому

      We won't be seeing a review. I bet.

  • @The_Horizon
    @The_Horizon 2 роки тому +1827

    imma wait till a few months so I can get this for like 200 bucks

  • @herrbolin
    @herrbolin Рік тому +30

    Would love to see a re-review of this device.

    • @thewon75
      @thewon75 Рік тому +1

      Its trash still

    • @NateFord
      @NateFord Рік тому

      Why though? Did anything change?

    • @herrbolin
      @herrbolin Рік тому +2

      @@NateFord I believe alot has changed due to continuous improvement in software, not the least since Android 12L

    • @MrMickey1987
      @MrMickey1987 Рік тому +1

      @@thewon75As a SD2 user I whole heartedly dissagree. I've got my self one for Christmas 2022, and it's been a blast.
      No regrets, can't imagine ever going back to just a regular slab phone.
      The little quality of life improvements, it's unapologetic approach towards multi tasking bring, really make it a unique device to use.

    • @thewon75
      @thewon75 Рік тому

      @@MrMickey1987 its just a slow phone compared to most higher end flagships

  • @godiseru
    @godiseru 2 роки тому +53

    The best thing about my Surface Duo was the perfect alignment of the two sides when it was closed or folded. I did not care about the camera because I rarely take pictures. I can safely say that if the first version were like this one, I would not purchase it. I also think that the $1400 price mark was too high. I bought the first phone for $1000 because I already knew that most people would not be willing to purchase a device like it. Basically, I knew that the price was going to come down. I assure anyone who wants this phone as well that the price of this one will not stay at $1400 either.

    • @nottrevorallen
      @nottrevorallen 2 роки тому

      you can pick up duo 1 for like 350-400 on ebay right now

    • @pielordminiman8124
      @pielordminiman8124 Рік тому +1

      The camera bump completely ruins the surface duo 2. The 360 hinge is essential. They should have instead installed one very high quality camera on the front and none on the back.

  • @winchdara7303
    @winchdara7303 2 роки тому +335

    I'm sad LG's dual screen from cases will never become mainstream.
    The LG Velvet and LG V60 were so promissing :(.

    • @manusingh5549
      @manusingh5549 2 роки тому +12

      G8X ThinQ as well

    • @connormcleod9595
      @connormcleod9595 2 роки тому

      I have em

    • @oscarr1161
      @oscarr1161 2 роки тому +4

      But too expensive...

    • @SaithusX
      @SaithusX 2 роки тому +11

      Every phone is too expensive. But thanks to LG being crap at holding their value I got the LG v60 dual screen for like $230!

    • @stellanstafford6025
      @stellanstafford6025 2 роки тому

      I use a g8x its great

  • @maple8040
    @maple8040 2 роки тому +164

    The hype of the original one felt so quickly that I forgot it was made last year.

    • @foolpersona_
      @foolpersona_ 2 роки тому +3

      bruh it was mase last year? jesus i thought it was 5 years ago lmao

  • @cynthia-op8rx
    @cynthia-op8rx 2 роки тому +138

    I feel like a lunatic whenever I say this but I adore the concept here. if I had the money to throw around on something like this I'd love to have one. just the thought of being able to do split-screen productivity tasks with that much screen real estate sold me the moment I saw it.
    that being said, god why are those cameras there. i hate it. i really hate it.

    • @PSYCHOV3N0M
      @PSYCHOV3N0M 2 роки тому +4

      Wait for a massive price drop like the 1st gen Duo had.
      The 1st gen model is around $600 or less brand new.

    • @PSYCHOV3N0M
      @PSYCHOV3N0M 2 роки тому +3

      @c f Bad comparison.
      You can't fit a laptop in your pocket.

    • @PSYCHOV3N0M
      @PSYCHOV3N0M 2 роки тому

      @c f Power users who multitask.
      Clearly you're not the target audience so just move on instead of complaining about something you have zero interest in. 😂😂😂

    • @FrankFurther
      @FrankFurther 2 роки тому +1

      You are indeed a lunatic

    • @Sebbir
      @Sebbir 2 роки тому +6

      @@FrankFurther people said the same thing about the dude trying to invent fire. And look at him now!

  • @CodeRedCody
    @CodeRedCody 2 роки тому +5

    That Nintendo 2DS XL looking good

  • @noeldillabough
    @noeldillabough 2 роки тому +211

    Pro: (over other folding devices): two real screens no worries of soft scratchy screen
    Con: hate the wrap hiding pixels in the middle, I'd rather more of a gap with no missing pixels

    • @SaintRampalSpiritualLeader
      @SaintRampalSpiritualLeader 2 роки тому +15

      I have Z Fold 2 and inner screen isn't as bad as everyone is saying, sure glass is better, but I wouldn't say it's bad if you used screen protector (non glass ofc) on any other phone it is almost the same. The small scratches kind of self heal, idk about large ones since I don't have any, any scratches at all. It seems to be more reflective/ the screen isn't as bright. Oh and I feel confident pressing hard on it, I don't press hard since there is no reason at all but if you want to you can.

    • @noeldillabough
      @noeldillabough 2 роки тому +4

      @@SaintRampalSpiritualLeader Good to hear, I'll prolly be picking up the Google Fold (made by Samsung) so will have very similar features

    • @timkoken1570
      @timkoken1570 2 роки тому +2

      @@noeldillabough i have the z fold 2 as well and it really behaves like glass, youjust need to be careful with deep fingernails but thats it since it will be protected when closed

    • @SaintRampalSpiritualLeader
      @SaintRampalSpiritualLeader 2 роки тому +2

      @@noeldillabough oh didn't even know there will be one

    • @timkoken1570
      @timkoken1570 2 роки тому +2

      @@SaintRampalSpiritualLeader ther e are lots of roumors

  • @jeremyenelson
    @jeremyenelson 2 роки тому +471

    Honestly, I think they should consider making a solo screen device instead. Design-wise, I think they get a lot more right than wrong, and I think a standard body phone with the Surface’s aluminum body would be pretty sick.

    • @sherwinkp
      @sherwinkp 2 роки тому +22

      Exactly. They seem to have some good UI elements as well.

    • @user10476
      @user10476 2 роки тому +32

      The dual screen is the reason this device exists. Without it, it's just a regular, probably worse version, phone like every device on the market.

    • @mkbhd
      @mkbhd  2 роки тому +149

      I'd actually love to see that

    • @AdamMarczak
      @AdamMarczak 2 роки тому +8

      Yeah, I'd love Surface Phone. Their laptops look so cool. And combo with Windows (like ios&macos) would be something I've always wished for. I know it's available on samsung phones now, but it's just not as seamless as apple version. Let's just hope they won't overdesign it like they did with Surface Duo/Surface Studio Laptop.

    • @michaelbabiuk8758
      @michaelbabiuk8758 2 роки тому +14

      @@mkbhd that device is already being sold. It is called the Apple iPad Mini.

  • @kamilstudios
    @kamilstudios 2 роки тому +219

    I think it is a great concept to have separate dual screens, but I can feel the annoying and impractical for everyday usage.

    • @PSYCHOV3N0M
      @PSYCHOV3N0M 2 роки тому +7

      Which is why the LG V60 is superior because it has the detachable dual-screen case along with a superior aspect ratio for browsing websites and watching movies.

    • @Dankboi420
      @Dankboi420 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah and it’s kinda cool with that thin design
      But what the hell was Microsoft thinking
      Who TF needs this
      First the Zune to complete with iPod
      Then the Windows Phone
      Now this one🤔🤔😨

    • @zumabbar
      @zumabbar 2 роки тому +2

      yeah, i'm sure i'm better off having a phone and a tablet, not to mention both can be obtained at a lower price than this duo at release

    • @qamarmood1157
      @qamarmood1157 2 роки тому +2

      @@PSYCHOV3N0M lg 60 your joking right

    • @SagyTity1
      @SagyTity1 2 роки тому +1

      @@Dankboi420 compete with Samsung fold

  • @JACCO20082012
    @JACCO20082012 2 роки тому +6

    I really, really like the idea behind this device. The dual screen implementation is a neat idea and allows for some functionality candy bar and foldable phones don't have.
    It just can't complete with a Note or S series because they have had 10 years to perfect the UI and feature library. It also doesn't have a great form factor and the original was difficult to use for that reason.

  • @LightYouTube
    @LightYouTube 2 роки тому +291

    This is like solving problems and creating more problems at the same time.

    • @jitessh
      @jitessh 2 роки тому +10

      Yeah exactly like programming.

    • @louellecaldino506
      @louellecaldino506 2 роки тому +3

      Its like Apple Inc too, the removed the ports, by going all type C, and in the end they bring it all back. And then they implement the Notch in the their MacBooks, and then solve the issue by removing it on the next product release on the future. They know people will buy it due to their powerful Chips, so they make fun of their customers by implement these intentional mess and other oddities.

    • @AMPFIELDVISION
      @AMPFIELDVISION 2 роки тому +2

      What's that called?

    • @WarAlex16
      @WarAlex16 2 роки тому

      @@AMPFIELDVISION MacBook 2016-2020

    • @kiiryuerika6188
      @kiiryuerika6188 2 роки тому

      Sounds lik Ark

  • @AustinWhite122
    @AustinWhite122 2 роки тому +141

    I feel like this phone's form factor is more geared toward someone looking for a work phone and just need to multitask well and use it for business applications. The changes they made make it geared more for the general public and what they'd expect.

    • @RockLoi
      @RockLoi 2 роки тому +20

      That's my use case. I wanted a faster Duo 1 with NFC and less buggy software.
      Caving to the whole "every phone needs massive cameras" shtick is annoying.

    • @not1goodname
      @not1goodname 2 роки тому +15

      I firmly believe this is Microsofts portable outlook and teams machine. Like that is what it is really for. Which to me makes the whole "no usability when closed" thing like a huge feature to me. With a work phone I'd like to be able to close it and be done with it when I'm not supposed to be working.

    • @UltimateAHP
      @UltimateAHP 2 роки тому +5

      You might as well buy samsung's fold 3 if you're looking for a smartphone/tablet like experience. Definitely way better than what microsoft is trying to do here.

    • @Henry_Jr_Watsson
      @Henry_Jr_Watsson 2 роки тому

      @@not1goodname Yea, but with terrible camera's, bad microphone and unreliable software it's a big NO. Just get a nice phone with a case (built-in stand maybe) and call it a day. At least that's 100% reliable and everything about it will be awesome.

    • @gaganshetty7587
      @gaganshetty7587 2 роки тому

      Just get a z fold three then i feel likr its cheaper and better

  • @tlrprice7
    @tlrprice7 2 роки тому +7

    So I loved the hardware of the duo and I thought opening it every time would be cool until I got the fold 3 and realized I how usable it is closed. I have been taking tons of photos on vacation and when you are moving and running as round you want a quick couple pictures then back in the pocket. Then open it and go thought everything when you get to a resting place.
    I think the duo needs a dedicated companion if not a third screen a watch as capable as an apple watch.

  • @red_adept
    @red_adept 2 роки тому +12

    I like this form factor. I carry two phones from two different service providers. I would love it is they could be joined together like this and share storage and apps but assign mobile services to each screen.
    Also, I don't think the interface needs to span across both screens. The point of having two screens like this would be using two apps at once. So like a PDF or a video on one and a text editor or email on the other. Also, it would be neat to have it display two document pages at once like a book.
    And of course if turned sideways one screen could become a keyboard or virtual controller.
    I like this idea, but they need to stop trying to make it something it isn't.

    • @mackrevinack
      @mackrevinack Рік тому

      i was just thinking about something similar but with android user profiles where you could have your work user open on one screen and then your normal user on the other.

  • @Costaride
    @Costaride 2 роки тому +129

    I feel like they should've made the selfie camera on the inside an actual decent camera. That way it's usable during video calls and you can use it as the main camera while having no camera bump at the outside

    • @thateverettguy2991
      @thateverettguy2991 2 роки тому +1

      Not having a back camera wasn’t the issue, it already has a massive bevel on the tops and bottoms, I know there is issues when you put a chunky selfie in there but that’s what needed to happen

    • @JOAKINGtube
      @JOAKINGtube 2 роки тому +4

      Had the same thought

    • @kavyaaggarwal1382
      @kavyaaggarwal1382 2 роки тому

      Well you can't add a good quality camera in this slim body so i.e. why

  • @MiguelQuilesJr
    @MiguelQuilesJr 2 роки тому +659

    Is there a more dissapointing line of smartphones than the Surface Duo? I want so bad for these to be good and somehow Microsoft can't get their act together.

    • @aaronrichards817
      @aaronrichards817 2 роки тому +54

      It looks like what people thought phones would look like in the future in 2005

    • @cacogenicist
      @cacogenicist 2 роки тому +30

      People shouldn't think of this as a phone, I guess. It's a pocketable productivity doodad -- of course the software needs to excellent to really sell it as such.

    • @cacogenicist
      @cacogenicist 2 роки тому +12

      @@aaronrichards817 - PDA from _the future!_

    • @anaperez5442
      @anaperez5442 2 роки тому +1

      Smartphone?
      I thought it was some kind of tablet!

    • @aaronrichards817
      @aaronrichards817 2 роки тому +3

      @@anaperez5442 It's a phone

  • @CaidicusProductions
    @CaidicusProductions 2 роки тому

    I am always completely blown away by how good the music is on your channel.
    Man oh man, what a treat for the ears.

  • @blackbalerion
    @blackbalerion 2 роки тому

    Pretty much the review I was looking for! Thx!

  • @Luxumbra69
    @Luxumbra69 2 роки тому +43

    i actually like the passport design. i dont often take pictures so the inconvenience wouldnt bother me, but i feel like the dealbreaker is the seam in the display.

    • @missingno2401
      @missingno2401 2 роки тому

      for me the dealbreaker is both the seam and how thin the phone is

  • @Abhishek-ez3ue
    @Abhishek-ez3ue 2 роки тому +102

    I like the original surface duo more than this one especially because it was so sleek

    • @mokkabonna
      @mokkabonna 2 роки тому +5

      Yes, I think they should stay true to that. Many people are willing to sacrifice worse camera quality for the form factor. But software needs to be more seemless.

    • @SouthBayLA1310
      @SouthBayLA1310 2 роки тому

      What's the difference?

    • @RockLoi
      @RockLoi 2 роки тому

      @@SouthBayLA1310 They caved to better cameras contradicting their market.

  • @snoopyfix2
    @snoopyfix2 2 роки тому +7

    Honestly, I really like the first Duo's design. I'm a little torn on whether or not the outside should also have a screen. I feel like if it did that it's way more vulnerable. One perk of the Duo is that you really don't need a case to protect it. You don't need to worry about scratches or dropping it, and that's some good piece of mind. On the other hand, all the things you mentioned MK. Perhaps, if it did have a screen, maybe just a small one like the Galaxy ZFlip 3. Or maybe even a TFT looking reader that gives essential/programmable info. Similar to the dot view on the HTC One M8 dot case? It was cool and could do some cool things. Idk?! Also, with the Duo 3, if they could keep the Duo 1's design but integrate 3 great cameras where the first selfie camera was and don't put any on the outside, I think that would be better.

  • @zenny2264
    @zenny2264 2 роки тому +4

    I just love the Microsoft logo on the first one it looks so smooth

  • @kamals.7643
    @kamals.7643 2 роки тому +115

    If Microsoft added an in-housing stylus and software for it, that would probably justify the price a bit and overshadow some of it's shortcomings.

  • @SRC267
    @SRC267 2 роки тому +775

    4:14 shout out to the emulation community. NDS and 3DS on the go.

    • @Molemanski
      @Molemanski 2 роки тому +86

      But.... ds and 3ds are inherently on the go?

    • @Ramu-10
      @Ramu-10 2 роки тому +25

      @@Molemanski Yeah but imagine being able to do all that on a phone

    • @mudit7394
      @mudit7394 2 роки тому +1

      Ye true

    • @vedaryan334
      @vedaryan334 2 роки тому +28

      @@Molemanski imagine having both in one without having to change cartridges or anything on a phone

    • @onepiecebarca
      @onepiecebarca 2 роки тому +11

      Citra gang

  • @deadrabit71
    @deadrabit71 Рік тому +3

    I feel like you're missing the point. It's a productivity device, a phone you can multi task on. Judging it as a game boy isn't the way to go. Also, try reading in vertical mode so the hinge underlines where you're reading.

  • @johnnielsen5392
    @johnnielsen5392 Рік тому +3

    Misses the point about this Surface Duo 2, it is in the title Duo - two screens. It is not a fold device like Samsungs - getting one bigger screen.
    Surface Duo 1 and 2 is not built to split text/pictures between the 2 screens - so you can work with more than 1 application on the device with ease on both screens.

  • @cyn1623
    @cyn1623 2 роки тому +48

    From someone who uses the original SD as daily driver, I actually enjoy the experience of opening such a sleek device everytime i use the phone. With the huge cam bump, however, the sleekness is pretty much gone.
    So ya, now we have a device that is neither here nor there; neither appealing to purists nor pragmatists. Oh well ...

    • @Vedrick32
      @Vedrick32 2 роки тому

      @Bruh Bruh shut up shut up shut up

  • @erikhefflefinger9460
    @erikhefflefinger9460 2 роки тому +154

    In terms of a "device" this is a really cool system. In terms of a phone, it's terrible. If this was your main device, there are far too many short comings for daily use.

    • @abcdefg3386
      @abcdefg3386 2 роки тому +1

      How do you even make calls with this thing? I mean, how do you hold it?

    • @eingoluq
      @eingoluq 2 роки тому +3

      It's not a phone. It's a digital booklet with telephony. It needs to be a good digital booklet first, camera and phone last.

    • @ignaciocampos8435
      @ignaciocampos8435 2 роки тому

      @@eingoluq maybe that's exactly the problem

    • @RockLoi
      @RockLoi 2 роки тому

      @@ignaciocampos8435 It's a problem if you review it as a phone first.
      I mean in [current year] are we really surprised that a product is more focussed on the non-phone aspects of a pocket computer?

  • @cyclone2424
    @cyclone2424 2 роки тому +1

    i think a fix for the form factor would be a centre hinge that could both open and close the same as the phone does now but also rotate to flip one of the displays around (the camera side) to enable another positon with one wide of the one open to a screen and the other facing inwards with the camera facing out, meaning the second screen would be folded against the back of the other to protect it while in that position and allow the camera to face forward unobstructed , aka an engineers worst nightmare

  • @samipupu
    @samipupu 2 роки тому

    Excellent video which shows also how the camera bump hits the back screen. I wonder why the bottom part is unsupported now.. can you squeeze and break it easily now when having a phone call?

  • @kylekatsumi
    @kylekatsumi 2 роки тому +221

    Sadly, you captured a lot of Microsoft's product woes in a nutshell: We made it objectively better and somehow it's still worse. I'm a fan of MSFT, and I wish they would work on the cohesiveness of all their products, not just the sum of their parts.

    • @iu1191
      @iu1191 2 роки тому +6

      Imagine if a friend told you they were going to spend £1500 on this phone. What would you do. let them or shake them awake and into reality. Any good friend would deliver a slap into reality. Shake them awake!

    • @heroedeleyenda05
      @heroedeleyenda05 2 роки тому +5

      The thing is they dont have a steve jobs. (Im not a big fan of him as a person or his money making tactics)
      But he sure did know how to steer a ship into a grand vision

    • @Tom_Stevens617
      @Tom_Stevens617 2 роки тому +2

      @@heroedeleyenda05 And they don't have a Tim Cook either.

    • @RockLoi
      @RockLoi 2 роки тому

      @@iu1191 If the price is due to plummet like last time maybe, but maybe they don't want a candy bar or a Fold.

  • @Thesisterchannel_
    @Thesisterchannel_ 2 роки тому +117

    This is like Huawei’s and Samsung’s rough draft of their folding phones.

    • @vincepham268
      @vincepham268 2 роки тому +5

      Their UI's were better on it

    • @OK-td7oe
      @OK-td7oe 2 роки тому

      No it’s not. It’s completely different because they are two independent screens, which adds a whole different way of using your device. It’s not a folding screen. It’s two screens with hinges. Big difference.

    • @ko-Daegu
      @ko-Daegu 2 роки тому +3

      @@OK-td7oe it's hella buggy just like a pre-alpha which's a shame for 1500 device

  • @ManosMe
    @ManosMe 2 роки тому +6

    @Mkbhd: How about doing a re-review of the Duo 2? Some say that it has vastly improved after the February update. Would you give it one more chance?

  • @Aaronx12
    @Aaronx12 2 роки тому +3

    I think if they replace some of those rear camera modules with LiDAR and somehow brought back a new version of windows phone OS or ran some sort of windows, then I think the size and set up is perfect for work situations. The same way iPads have been industrialized I think this could be a good company computer/phone for a lot of industries.

  • @jessechuff
    @jessechuff 2 роки тому +140

    I feel like this form factor is really only useful as a novelty e-reader and an e-reader only. Every other feature just seems like it's at odds with it.

    • @Rattus375
      @Rattus375 2 роки тому +5

      Works great as a ds emulator too. A very expensive one, but still

    • @jamesrosenberg1612
      @jamesrosenberg1612 2 роки тому +2

      ya i want this form factor for an e ink e-reader. that would be nice.. and like $200 maybe

    • @Alexandre-nh3ei
      @Alexandre-nh3ei 2 роки тому +1

      it's actually not, an entire line gets missing

    • @atharvrao4565
      @atharvrao4565 2 роки тому +1

      It can also be used for multitasking as well

    • @llllllllllllllllllllllllIIIIl1
      @llllllllllllllllllllllllIIIIl1 2 роки тому

      The middle just eats up the words bro you boutta be skipping some plots 😭☠️💀

  • @MediaCastleX
    @MediaCastleX 2 роки тому +364

    I honestly feel like we didn't really need a camera for this stuff, perfectly fine with the way they had it before...they should make 2 versions for that kinda thing. 😅

    • @OnlyLokimobile
      @OnlyLokimobile 2 роки тому +29

      Get rid of the external camera. Put in a better selfie. And get the price down to 1k and I'd snap one up. This would be great as a work phone. Some companies require you to have a company phone. If I have to I would want something that is for productivity. I would have my regular phone for cameras.

    • @JakeAdkinsOfficial
      @JakeAdkinsOfficial 2 роки тому +4

      Yeah, it seems they really need to go all in on business and productivity and skip the multicamera- this is why they weren't calling it a phone- its a device. Still, its a tough problem, because I still would want a good enough camera. Hopefully they think of something that really works well and fix the bugs.

    • @Harlock2day
      @Harlock2day 2 роки тому +2

      Just don't have that bump, it's unecessary.

    • @PSYCHOV3N0M
      @PSYCHOV3N0M 2 роки тому +1

      @@OnlyLokimobile You can buy the 1st gen Duo for around $600 or less brand new if you know where to look.

    • @The-Heart-Will-Testify
      @The-Heart-Will-Testify 2 роки тому +2

      All they had to do was add a pop up camera and get rid off the outside camera, they should of focused alot on the software and out the highest spec possible, highest ram and chip.....

  • @How3Kiwi
    @How3Kiwi 2 роки тому +16

    One of the things that never really clicked for me until I owned a Z Fold 3, is how much I would rely on the outside screen to do regular smartphone things. It's about the flexibility of being able to use it unfolded when I want to. There are some days that I never open up to the big screen - and that's okay.
    Knowing all of this, now, I can completely understand from a physical convenience perspective, that the Surface Duo 2 can be a pain to use, because you HAVE to open it up to use it, even if you don't want to use both screens. Combine that with the admittedly poor camera placement, and it becomes a very cumbersome daily driver for most people. Microsoft marketed the first Duo as less of a phone replacement, and more as a business-minded tablet supplement, and I think it works fine for that, but the tradeoffs make it a difficult pill to swallow for $1500. The software bugs, though, even if the phone was otherwise perfect, is unacceptable at just about any price point these days, let alone at an eye-watering $1500.
    Cheers to another great video, Marques.

    • @mtrader82
      @mtrader82 2 роки тому

      Could agree more . . The fold3 is awesome!

  • @Dick_Kickem69
    @Dick_Kickem69 2 роки тому +21

    I really, really wanted to like this thing. I'm an attorney, my firm uses Surface tablets for trials and hearings, and of course we use Office for everything. OneNote in particular is something that is enormously useful. So I really liked the idea of a Surface phone with two screens, because it seems like it would be a super great productivity device that would integrate perfectly with the rest of my firm's tech ecosystem. The Surface tablets are amazing and were a huge upgrade over the iPads we used to use, for our specific use case. But all the little quality of life issues that this device has is going to keep me with Samsung. The fact that it doesn't fold flat with the screen open in particular is a huge deal breaker for me, especially because there's no outside screen. I think if there was an outside screen it wouldn't be a big deal, but if I can't have it be flat in my pocket and still be able to glance at my messages, then it's a no-go.

    • @dmzhockey94
      @dmzhockey94 2 роки тому +1

      I think the surface duo 3 will have that 3rd front screen and fix some of those other little problems so we can buy it lol

    • @s7v3nthign
      @s7v3nthign 2 роки тому +3

      For an attorney you complain a lot. I guess that goes with the job

  • @NarkarBros
    @NarkarBros 2 роки тому +889

    Can't imagine a company like Microsoft making such blunders 🤨
    Edit: To everyone speaking about windows phone, vista etc. I said 'Blunders'. It's plural.

  • @ThompterSHunson
    @ThompterSHunson 2 роки тому +111

    This looks like a 2000's smartphone trying to emulate how smartphones will look in the future.

  • @Kamidon74
    @Kamidon74 2 роки тому

    Damn your videos are awesome, glad I found you and subbed

  • @TheSteptoeuk
    @TheSteptoeuk Рік тому

    I have a love/hate relationship with my phone. Having had the phone for two weeks there are times it’s infuriated me (namely when I’m watching UA-cam on my Chromecast in the kitchen and want to change channels, having to keep ‘opening’ the phone drives you mad (a exterior screen would be welcomed here) but then at the same time I’m bombarded with notifications through the day, having a device which literally ‘shuts’ them out is bliss! Also the multitasking in genius and having moved back to iPhone for a couple of days there’s times I now scream at it (as doing two things simultaneously is impossible) and there are times this is REALLY useful.

  • @JasonWe171
    @JasonWe171 2 роки тому +46

    MSFT not using the forehead space for the entire upgraded camera was an epic miss. The pass port device that docks to your home system is the future. MSFT you are so close..... don't zune...away! you almost have the world beater.

    • @Dr1on
      @Dr1on 2 роки тому +1

      Don't Zune away 🤣👍

  • @kobbycrentsil2859
    @kobbycrentsil2859 2 роки тому +113

    I bet this would make Arun's failed tech list 😂😂

    • @auliamate
      @auliamate 2 роки тому +6

      Unless it succeeds since no one thinks about who would want it and just “it’s not a 1800-2000 dollar folding phone, so it’s worse”

  • @JTMC93
    @JTMC93 2 роки тому +2

    Honestly I think if they dropped the phone aspect and made it more as a mini tablet it might actually work better. Especially the original duo's design without the camera.
    Remove the phone, give it Wacom EMR compatibility, have the original duo's flatness, make it more affordable... I could see it giving Samsung and Apple a run for their money when it comes to notebook and sketchbook replacement devices. Especially if the had a version, possibly the Surface Neo, that was around the size of two iPad Mini's stuck together. So folded it would match the iPad Mini but it could unfold to have the second screen function. I could see that being really handy for note taking and sketching.
    Heck, the duo in this form could even work great if they had a good eReader function where each screen displayed a page and it felt a bit more like reading a physical book.

    • @miriamgonczarska613
      @miriamgonczarska613 2 роки тому

      Right and there aren't many good small tables with strong screens, and refresh ratios. Yes I would consider getting it as small tablet for half of its current price and no camera bump.

  • @dezystarheartstring9000
    @dezystarheartstring9000 2 роки тому +6

    I love The Microsoft Duo, I feel as though two more generation is going to be a well polish device

  • @Azulayar
    @Azulayar 2 роки тому +18

    They should ditch the outside cameras and have great "selfie " cameras, so it can fold nice and have fast photoshooting.
    Thicker is also ok to make that happen

    • @franklingoodwin
      @franklingoodwin 2 роки тому +8

      True. People can say this is a foldable phone but it's actually a foldable tablet. Tablets don't need any camera that isn't the selfie cam

    • @auliamate
      @auliamate 2 роки тому +1

      Steal the Pixel software magic ideas from Google and make one AMAZING camera instead of 3 mediocre ones.

  • @titanskrall7234
    @titanskrall7234 2 роки тому +113

    I personally think that the larger version of this, the Neo, was a far better idea. The ability to have a laptop or a dualscreen monitor set-up on the go with a magnetic wireless keyboard is super appealing. As for in a phone, it just seems cumbersome! The camera don't fit, it's too wide for a pocket, and the whole thing appears indecisive.

    • @MelbourneMeMe
      @MelbourneMeMe 2 роки тому +2

      Surface phone was always my dream: full windows x86 programs in your pocket. Now I don't know why I would ever need that. Folding devices are all rubbish. If I want a larger screen I just switch to a surface or laptop.
      I can only see a future of your phone being so powerful that it's your entire computer and it connects to different sized screens.

    • @lalakuma9
      @lalakuma9 2 роки тому

      I agree, if they're trying to sell dual screen as a tool for productivity, it makes more sense to do it with a mini laptop with an actual keyboard.

    • @EmceeRad
      @EmceeRad 2 роки тому

      they been playing with this idea for a long time now and the neo was the culmination if you ask me but i guess they went with the phone over neo and now neo is delay for a long while

  • @ThomasNing
    @ThomasNing 2 роки тому +15

    my thoughts:
    that cool keyboard flip accessory
    fix the software
    no camera bump
    if you put a decent camera on the inside, it can be a webcam, and be in the right position in comfortable photo taking mode (folded open).
    maybe some swipe gestures on the rounded edges when closed to dismiss, or trigger dictation replies for messages? (wouldn't save the lack of closed functionality though)

    • @nikhilmwarrier7948
      @nikhilmwarrier7948 2 роки тому +4

      That "cool keyboard flip accessory" was for the Surface Neo, which got postponed to posterity by MS for who knows what reasons

    • @Cooe.
      @Cooe. 2 місяці тому

      You can't fit a decent camera on the inside. 🤷 It's either a camera bump or a camera as utterly dogshit as the OG Duo's. There is no in-between thanks to physics. Microsoft should have just stuck to their original guns that the Duo wasn't a phone but a productivity device (as the name "Surface" implies), and that if you wanted nice photos then carry around a small phone or point-&-shoot for that. But instead, Microsoft bent to market pressure from idiots who were never even going to realistically consider buying a Duo in the first place!

  • @agentmikeyd
    @agentmikeyd 2 роки тому +1

    Hello . Please take another look at the surface 202. The updates have been fantastic and I recently made up my daily driver, from my iPhone 12 Pro Max. Once you start with the dual screens, as opposed to a single screen or a folding screen it's quite impressive of what you can accomplish. And it's very fun too. Please consider another review. Thanks

  • @SD_702
    @SD_702 2 роки тому +218

    "the biggest mistake an engineer can make is optimizing something that shouldn't exist" -Elon Musk. And that's how I feel about surface duo.

    • @mudit7394
      @mudit7394 2 роки тому +8

      I feel like surface duo could have done much better due to the immense amount of money Microsoft has and can invest

    • @HsingG32
      @HsingG32 2 роки тому +2

      but more than often it is not the engineer that decide that something 😂

    • @mudit7394
      @mudit7394 2 роки тому +1

      @Joe I feel like for the price the hardware can be improved look at s21 series of Samsung the specifications are much better

    • @Frank72364
      @Frank72364 2 роки тому +3

      You shouldn’t listen what that guy says.

    • @aspacelex
      @aspacelex 2 роки тому +2

      I guess he took avoiding making that mistake too seriously, based on him pursuing worse versions of good ideas. Then again, he isn't an engineer.

  • @mrbunlee
    @mrbunlee 2 роки тому +476

    Dear Microsoft if you cant find any things new let go back to lumia 1520 design put android on it, i will buy one and everybody will too trust me.

    • @eddiejcc
      @eddiejcc 2 роки тому +38

      ... well... not if they try to charge £1500 :O

    • @crosser985
      @crosser985 2 роки тому +15

      Nobody bought the Lumia, that's why they don't make them anymore

    • @lipokjamir2544
      @lipokjamir2544 2 роки тому

      Seconded

    • @thechang5161
      @thechang5161 2 роки тому

      Here here!

    • @kingjakewolf5348
      @kingjakewolf5348 2 роки тому +66

      @@crosser985 Nobody bought lumia because windows phone flopped, the phone designs themselves were awesome

  • @masterquake7
    @masterquake7 2 роки тому +11

    A note, is that Microsoft used better glass on the inside than on the outside of the Duo 2 so setting it down with a screen down isn't as volatile than you would expect. Edit: An outside screen may be useful, but given the use case for Surface Duo I don't think it is necessary. Stuff like spanning apps, I find is better vertically, like scrolling a long email or web page or forcing the keyboard to the bottom screen vs attempting to span horizontally. There are a few bugs still that need to be fixed, but I have not seen the touch issues that you saw.

  • @vaclemonsmd360
    @vaclemonsmd360 2 роки тому

    Thanks for a great review. It gives me more to consider. I've used the duo for a bout a year and wanted to replace it with a duo 2. I really like the idea that it talks to my OneDrive, buggy at times, yes but good when I travel. What about the lack of Wifi calling? That was a great disappointment with the Duo. I cannot find information about the duo 2..

  • @Shanahan126
    @Shanahan126 2 роки тому +7

    The whole point of the device is to do two things at once, not spanning an app across two screens. So many UA-camrs are missing the point of the device.

    • @dimenfer
      @dimenfer 2 роки тому +1

      It's possible, so.

    • @001100G
      @001100G 2 роки тому +1

      Thank you.

  • @saharsh4169
    @saharsh4169 2 роки тому +6

    I just want to appreciate that marques never puts ads during the video...he really loves the art of making tech videos and not just doing business...best tech channel out there..been following for 8 years now....great job man!!

  • @56grizzlymedia
    @56grizzlymedia Рік тому +1

    I think with a lot of reviews that devices tend to get review out of their element. This device just like it's previous version is meant for a more business productive style user. Where as most devices are meant for entertainment consumption. Not saying it can't be both, but definitely for a more dialed in business end user for this device great review my man

  • @petepaxton5109
    @petepaxton5109 Рік тому +5

    I already have the Fold 4 but I got an unlocked brand new duo for $250 and I just couldn't pass it up. I have to admit I like it more than I thought I would. The numerous updates have made a big difference from when it first came out. I'm using it as my daily driver for now and it's actually running just fine. Now that I already have t he fold I'd probably choose it but if I had bought this before I probably would have never bought the fold.

    • @mxbblife_mu
      @mxbblife_mu Рік тому +2

      FACTS I have a Surface Duo 2 and Fold 3 and I really only use the Fold for games because of the higher refresh rate... the camera quality on the Duo 2 isn't even all that different from the Fold.

  • @kevin3837
    @kevin3837 2 роки тому +48

    I really liked the design of the first duo. I think it has a price and immage issue. MS should have kept the design sleek and targeted Business customers as a second device.

    • @Johnny5477
      @Johnny5477 2 роки тому

      Yep. Make it a little bigger so on opening, it's basically the size of an iPad Mini.
      Boom, tablet.

    • @amg863
      @amg863 2 роки тому

      Business customers would not want this device

    • @Neekssuckitbitch
      @Neekssuckitbitch 2 роки тому

      @@Johnny5477 surface duo 2 unfolded is actually bigger than an ipad mini.

    • @Digitaldreamer7
      @Digitaldreamer7 2 роки тому

      I can tell you don't work in an office lol. Users BITCH AND MOAN if they have to carry more than one device

  • @iTuber012
    @iTuber012 2 роки тому +32

    Seems most folks miss the point of DUO(2 screens, not a tablet - spanning 1 app across both screens is not the intention though it IS supported for some productivity apps like various email services) - including most of the reviews today;
    It is a productivity device. I get that it is not for most people but review it based on its intended purpose.

    • @YuhNinja
      @YuhNinja 2 роки тому

      N o

    • @manurecars
      @manurecars 2 роки тому

      It does not make any sense as a device and add usual, people will vote with their wallets, be ready for very low sales

    • @AR-rg2en
      @AR-rg2en 2 роки тому +1

      This review doesn't even know that span feature is just a possibility, not the main mode. Some apps are good with it, some are bad.

    • @iTuber012
      @iTuber012 2 роки тому +2

      @@AR-rg2en yes indeed. Watch iJustine s video on this device and you can see that she understands HOW the device is intended to be used.

    • @AR-rg2en
      @AR-rg2en 2 роки тому +1

      @@iTuber012 yep

  • @soyperico
    @soyperico 2 роки тому

    I got my Duo 2 last week and I am loving it !!!!!

  • @JakeAdkinsOfficial
    @JakeAdkinsOfficial 2 роки тому

    I honestly think they may have to make one side just a bit thicker than the other, make the cameras flush, and add a little 1/3 preview screen on the outside- effectively making it a 3-screen device. The profile wouldn't be quite as thin, but you might be able to jam a lot more into it and still end up with a really dope device.

  • @LeftBeef
    @LeftBeef 2 роки тому +8

    Microsoft said for the first Duo, "this is now a Phone". The Duo has been treated as a Surface device first, and an Android smartphone second.
    They have the Surface side of it down (you didn't mention Surface Pen works with it and Surface Slim Pen 2 magnet attaches to the side), but need to work on the 'phone' parts of it.

  • @ShiloBuff
    @ShiloBuff 2 роки тому +72

    3:46 How can they release a device that doesn't allow you to see the center of the screen? Which is arguably the most important area of the screen.
    I was open minded for a bit, even compared to the bendable screens. But missing text/pixels is a major NO.
    They might as well have just discontinued this device and started trying to implement bendable screen devices.

    • @williamstryker7253
      @williamstryker7253 2 роки тому +2

      Yah absolutely So Sloppy

    • @dman1848
      @dman1848 2 роки тому +13

      I don't think it was originally designed to be viewed with both screen as one. More so like a book. A separate screen on the left and a separate on the right. Its not a Galaxy Fold design. I think people are using it for not what it was intended. E.g you wouldnt play a game using both screens for say a first person shooter as the reticle would not be able to be viewed properly.

    • @ShiloBuff
      @ShiloBuff 2 роки тому

      @@dman1848 That makes sense. Definitely think they no longer have a market and don't know what their device is meant for now.

    • @jasonmoore1233
      @jasonmoore1233 2 роки тому +1

      @@dman1848 I completely agree. This review is very unfair. The review comes from an angle that this is targeted to the market of people looking for a cool camera/phone with a single large screen. The market for this device is not the galaxy fold users. This is a productivity tool for business professionals. It is meant for multi-tasking, not watching movies or other content across one-large screen. I have a duo 1 and I love it. Is it sometimes not-so-zippy with its response? Sure. But so is my iPhone 13 max pro that I use for my personal stuff. I use my duo as a secondary/ business device. And my iPhone for everything else. Greatest move I have made.

    • @ShiloBuff
      @ShiloBuff 2 роки тому

      @Momo On Interesting. Go for it! Best of luck with your assignment!

  • @RobertoRaymon
    @RobertoRaymon 2 роки тому

    Would be cool to have the 3rd (or 1st) screen on the outside, access your reading material for your book, magazine, or comic, and it shows the cover on the front. Then when you open it like a book there are pages that you swipe.

  • @simtee2169
    @simtee2169 2 роки тому

    Nice upgrade. I think they need to shift the logo up and create a screen . Since the phone is flip they can make it a bit thinker and create a motorised camera that pop's up when needed.

  • @MuitoDaora
    @MuitoDaora 2 роки тому +499

    Microsoft should stay with this design and thy to improve it. Specially in making the 2 displays come closer together. A seamless foldable with glass display is my wet dream.

    • @user-xe5wj8on8f
      @user-xe5wj8on8f 2 роки тому +49

      You can’t. Fold. Glass.

    • @auliamate
      @auliamate 2 роки тому +19

      Get a Samsung. Bai.

    • @auliamate
      @auliamate 2 роки тому +7

      @@user-xe5wj8on8f Samsung did it (though a ton of them cracked so take that how you will)

    • @user-xe5wj8on8f
      @user-xe5wj8on8f 2 роки тому +36

      @@auliamate that plastic in the middle of fold/flip doesn’t become glass when Samsung calls it so

    • @HakaishinBlast
      @HakaishinBlast 2 роки тому +29

      @@user-xe5wj8on8f IT IS glass bro, just has a plastic layer above it for protection as it is ultra this glass.

  • @Steel86Curtain
    @Steel86Curtain 2 роки тому +6

    First thing I thought about when I saw that camera bump was it preventing the device from closing back to back like it did before. Surprised they didn't go with a motorized setup or just upgrading the cameras before to keep that aesthetic. I really wanted this thing to work. Such an interesting form factor.

  • @shenzhen2112
    @shenzhen2112 2 роки тому +3

    I love how objective, honest, and tactful you are in your reviews.

  • @techlabs721
    @techlabs721 2 роки тому

    Used the first gen Duo. Loved the thin feel and the idea, but bugs, and just missing something for me. Having now used the Zfold 3 since launch as my daily I can't leave a folding phone that has a full usable screen. However... I like the aspect ratio of the Duo for work tasks and dual apps running. I find the Z Fold screens to thin/tall. I would love to see the fold 3 with "wider" aspect or Microsoft connect the two into 1 large screen. The Duo 1 felt really nice in hand, the hinge is really nice just the two separate screens are great for work, but not for personal use IMO. Overall just love there are options in the foldable space. I love it and likely won't go back to a single screen phone.

  • @philipchan9297
    @philipchan9297 2 роки тому +44

    Wow. Microsoft still has a long way to go to improve this device. It's not even a competition with other foldable phones. Yet they have money to burn to keep making Duo in future generations.

  • @Rhysing
    @Rhysing 2 роки тому +8

    I had the first one at launch and have used it since. I haven't had any of those issues you described. Not at least since maybe the first couple weeks after launch, when all the finger commands an responsive glitches were fixed up. Crazy the difference in experiences we've had, but what do I know, I've only used it as my daily driver every single day.

    • @4paapii
      @4paapii 2 роки тому +1

      I think marques always uses very early software versions which usually have themost bugs

    • @292angelo
      @292angelo 2 роки тому +1

      That's a thing. He's using it for couple of days and already buried the phone right way.

  • @vasekvi
    @vasekvi 2 роки тому

    I wanted to switch to this from my LG V60 with two screens I always use. So I am used to the nuances of having to unfold to use and take pictures. But the cameras just are not good enough STILL. I am not downgrading from what I have for that. And the missing text in the middle of the screen could possibly be fixed with a software update, to stretch what is displayed on the edge. But its probably best that they go back to flat screens and make the bezels as thin as possible. Fix the cameras and make the screens flat again and I would possibly pick up a Surface Duo 3

  • @fredthomasTritekk
    @fredthomasTritekk 2 роки тому

    nice quick review i'm still going to get one i like the form factorbeays carying a tablet and phone i actually have the kospet prime watch that i use for phone calls

  • @TechAisle
    @TechAisle 2 роки тому +100

    So, it is like an inferior foldable that shouldn't cost as much as it does, especially since paying just $300 more will get you a real, chad foldable

    • @bigbee5220
      @bigbee5220 2 роки тому +6

      Foldable technology is more difficult than hinge technology.
      So I was surprised that Samsung priced the Fold 3 cheaper than I thought.
      But it's still expensive for me...

    • @RedEyesInTheDark
      @RedEyesInTheDark 2 роки тому

      @@bigbee5220 and it probably won’t last long in the long run

    • @franklingoodwin
      @franklingoodwin 2 роки тому +2

      What's a Chad foldable? 😄

    • @eval_is_evil
      @eval_is_evil 2 роки тому +1

      Agreed. Samsung nailed it.

    • @The-Heart-Will-Testify
      @The-Heart-Will-Testify 2 роки тому +1

      @@eval_is_evil not with that crease, idk how people don't notice the big flaw

  • @Hellraizer8
    @Hellraizer8 2 роки тому +12

    I would have loved this phone a 5-7 years ago with the limitations of folding screens and just having the biggest phone to show off. For 2021, this phone is the epitome of inconvenience.

  • @EnglishLearnersHere
    @EnglishLearnersHere 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent review! Thanks!

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      @user-mj5mt9sr9j 2 роки тому

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  • @mallorykong503
    @mallorykong503 2 роки тому +1

    Appreciate the honest review.

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  • @Lena-vw6ye
    @Lena-vw6ye 2 роки тому +70

    I feel like this is a folding mini-tablet that you can call with. Seems more of a professional tool, but without the professional tools because you don't get full functionality with the apps.

    • @elfedorausado
      @elfedorausado 2 роки тому

      My sentiments, exactly

    • @RockLoi
      @RockLoi 2 роки тому +1

      Which apps are you talking about?

    • @dcny69
      @dcny69 2 роки тому +1

      Gurl shut up. Go make us a sandwich

  • @thisamericanwifepod
    @thisamericanwifepod 2 роки тому +64

    It seems like they've made Duo 1.5 here, it's got new hardware inside and the camera, but they must know that the bolt-on bump ruins the whole thing they were going for. They've released it now as is to keep the brand relevant and try to avoid it being called a failure, while a team works overtime on the next version with cameras better incorporated into the flat design.

  • @PoGoNugen
    @PoGoNugen 2 роки тому +1

    I have the duo 2 and can say I enjoy it entirely for my purpose. I use the device as a tablet/portable workstation. I do not use it as a phone at all.
    The combination with the surface pen make it for me the ultimate portable workstation.
    I agree with the statements presented in the video and below in the comments regarding the camera. The device would be better without it.

  • @parinose6163
    @parinose6163 2 місяці тому

    Hi, Thx you so much for your review! Agree. A third screen with the cameras will be fine on the front! You will not need to open it to take pix... And the cameras could be level or on the surface!

  • @petermontague3062
    @petermontague3062 2 роки тому +25

    In my view whilst it was never sensible to brand the first one as "not a phone", it is definitely the case that the Duos are not for everyone and fit a certain use profile. And I think that's fine - provided the business case works out if the market for it is relatively small.

    • @ArtsyStudios
      @ArtsyStudios 2 роки тому

      It almost has a slight feel of a blackberry, business/executive niche group. The black colour more so than the white. I'm a Mental Health Nurse on the wards and need a phone to take notes on, I'm really unsure to get the z fold 3 or the duo 2. I really do like the duo 2, but samsung looks the more practical. I can't decide because my contracts up in November and whichever one I get ill be keeping for 2 years

  • @miguelojera2356
    @miguelojera2356 2 роки тому +9

    The phone is pretty much geared towards professionals who can utilize the multitasking experience and have it as a companion device for a Surface Pro or main laptop you may already have.

  • @bradd5961
    @bradd5961 2 роки тому

    The split app feature on this is a killer feature. Best business device I have used. The surface pen 2 and the swipe keyboard is crazy smooth and accurate. Processor is outstanding.

  • @fortressfighter5668
    @fortressfighter5668 2 роки тому

    I think a little mini screen somewhere around the top couldve pulled this device all together as well as some software changes to the camera.

  • @CurtisBond
    @CurtisBond 2 роки тому +149

    "This isn't the full review". Goes on to rant about the product in explicit detail for 11 minutes straight.

  • @jack_db_1989
    @jack_db_1989 2 роки тому +63

    Hey, don’t have a good day, have a great day!

  • @ehsanulbanna637
    @ehsanulbanna637 2 роки тому

    pop-up camera will solve the camera problem. small outside screen is a must to check notification and to snap quick photos. i think they can actually solve the middle of the screen issue by applying a separate thin glass of screen over the hinge. they should go for full screen feature, it will look great without the bezels.

  • @WilliamHasMelted
    @WilliamHasMelted 2 роки тому

    I'm so into the idea of the form factor. I personally am worried about the screen's on most foldable phones creasing. I just wish this device worked