Gen 9’s Strongest Returning Legendaries.

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  • Опубліковано 10 гру 2023
  • Pokemon Competitive Singles will be seeing a significant shakeup with the release of DLC part 2.
    Many iconic legendaries including Ho-Oh, Lugia and Suicune will finally be available to use in Gen 9.
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  • @jimothycool
    @jimothycool  7 місяців тому +102

    Forgot Necrozma Dusk Mane. Though it has the same typing as Solgaleo, it's stats, movepool and ability are significantly better. Should be quite good.
    Also forgot Kyurem Black and White. They'll probably end up in Ubers UU
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    • @ryanbob
      @ryanbob 7 місяців тому +2

      Weakness policy duskmane with agility did so much work for me in gen 8 😂

    • @peacebone8112
      @peacebone8112 7 місяців тому +1

      You didn't mention Necrozma dawn wings in this one. Thoughts?

    • @daniellejackson6543
      @daniellejackson6543 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@peacebone8112 It has always been bad because of opportunity cost and 4 times weaknesses.

    • @goatresx1799
      @goatresx1799 7 місяців тому

      I doubt Kyurem Black is gonna be UUbers because D-Dance + Loaded Dice Icicle Spear is gonna be a demon

    • @user-wx6ms9rv2m
      @user-wx6ms9rv2m 7 місяців тому

      @@ryanbobUse trick room instead of agility, then you don't have to run speed investment

  • @drxavier1870
    @drxavier1870 7 місяців тому +559

    Ho-Oh on its way to get Revival Blessing with its lore

    • @Jordan13299
      @Jordan13299 7 місяців тому +96

      This is one of those instances where GF will prioritize balance over lore flavor. 💀

    • @TheRandomGuyEverestEver
      @TheRandomGuyEverestEver 7 місяців тому +167

      ​@@Jordan13299because GF has a REAL good track record with balancing the game this gen, right?

    • @marcelomelo9977
      @marcelomelo9977 7 місяців тому +12

      Dear god no💀💀

    • @daniellejackson6543
      @daniellejackson6543 7 місяців тому +7

      ​@marcelomelo9977 It isn't even that good of a move.

    • @bluebaron6811
      @bluebaron6811 7 місяців тому +96

      Honestly, let the Legendary be busted.
      I'm sick of people excusing weak legendaries like Reshiram and Dialga just because "oooouuuuh... ouh, but da balance, though 🤓"
      No, according to gen 8 usage rates, Reshiram and Dialga are worse than fu*king SHUCKLE.

  • @leonardobarbosatelles2779
    @leonardobarbosatelles2779 7 місяців тому +208

    It’s incredible how Ho-oh started as one of the worst legendaries in Ubers in GSC, but evolved through the generations, to find itself as one of the most relevant nowadays

    • @xendra333
      @xendra333 7 місяців тому +44

      Like a phoenix, this bird always comes back better

    • @azeria1
      @azeria1 7 місяців тому +8

      Considering stealth rock it's really surprising

    • @Lichtkrieger13
      @Lichtkrieger13 7 місяців тому +29

      It sounds awkward but in a way stealth rocks help Ho-Oh. There aren't many 4x weak mons, meaning a lot of teams just forego actual Ho-Oh Coverage. If you can then keep hazards off fairly reliably it's a real stinker to face

    • @yungmuney5903
      @yungmuney5903 7 місяців тому +24

      Mostly because Ho oh had 0 flying moves and Fire was a special type so Sacred Fire wasn't as helpful, but it all changed in Gen 4 with the split and Brave Bird, then Gen 5 came out with a cracked ass ability in Regenerator.

    • @DragonFellowship
      @DragonFellowship 7 місяців тому +3

      ​@@yungmuney5903also roost in gen 4

  • @naturalharmoniagropius4486
    @naturalharmoniagropius4486 7 місяців тому +274

    I ❤️ using Tera Ground Ho-oh in NatDex Ubers, eliminating its crippling Rock weakness, and giving Electric immunity.

    • @bradensmith8682
      @bradensmith8682 7 місяців тому +16

      Tera Ground Earthquakes are so good. And the flying types that dodge it do not want a Sacred Fire or Brave Bird afterwards. Hopefully Ho-Oh gets Flame Charge, I can't remember if it already got it.

    • @naturalharmoniagropius4486
      @naturalharmoniagropius4486 7 місяців тому +11

      @@bradensmith8682 I think it has Flame Charge. Hopefully it won't get snapped by GF. Flame Charge is a TM in Gen 9 after all

    • @kono_dust_da8180
      @kono_dust_da8180 7 місяців тому +9

      Probably Tera grasa since then your not weak to Choice scarf kyroge

    • @theapexsurvivor9538
      @theapexsurvivor9538 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@kono_dust_da8180eh, that's why you carry a Koraidon and Ferrothorn in the back. Play like it's Gen 5 and enforce your solar superiority (bonus points if you have miraidon to ensure you can always revenge with E-drift)

    • @A_Hardy_Lopunny
      @A_Hardy_Lopunny 7 місяців тому

      ​​@@theapexsurvivor9538I don't think your gonna use a korra in nat dex haha

  • @smashmania6644
    @smashmania6644 7 місяців тому +102

    A water type with regenerator? Who would ever think of such a thing?!

    • @naturalharmoniagropius4486
      @naturalharmoniagropius4486 7 місяців тому +14

      I rather have Tera Ground with boots

    • @aghadlarhen9397
      @aghadlarhen9397 7 місяців тому +26

      *_Me, manifesting a Swampert hidden ability change in the Indigo Disk DLC_*

    • @cadetjones9205
      @cadetjones9205 7 місяців тому +23

      Imagine if it had a poison inflicting protect, a STAB water move with a high burn chance and crazy high defenses alongside stat removing moves. Now that would be broken beyond belief! Even a nerf wouldn't stop it!

    • @Adjudicator1
      @Adjudicator1 7 місяців тому +6

      @@cadetjones9205 Hmm.
      Poison inflicting Protect: Baneful Bunker
      Water move with burn chance: Scald
      Stat removing move: Haze
      I am reminded of Generation 7 and Generation 8 Mareanie and Toxapex.

    • @theapexsurvivor9538
      @theapexsurvivor9538 7 місяців тому +25

      ​@@Adjudicator1yes, that is the joke, good job...

  • @ProfessorChad0570
    @ProfessorChad0570 7 місяців тому +51

    All fun and games till you pop Tera Ice Loaded Dice Kyurem Black with Icicle Spear and make Baxcaliber look like a UU mon.

    • @cjodol3271
      @cjodol3271 7 місяців тому +3

      He right

    • @Gold_Gamer_100
      @Gold_Gamer_100 7 місяців тому +18

      And remember, Bax is a pseudo legend. Kyurem-B is an actual legendary, so it's stats are way better

    • @notshockwavedemon7543
      @notshockwavedemon7543 7 місяців тому +22

      The advantage Bax has over KyuB is Bax can't be burned
      But KyuB eats Unaware mons once boosted due to Teravolt ignoring Unaware.

    • @overlord3481
      @overlord3481 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@Gold_Gamer_100 Bax still has better stats. higher attack, making it a superior ddance booster

    • @r0w5tortion84
      @r0w5tortion84 7 місяців тому +13

      ​@@overlord3481did you look them up? Kyurem-B has 125/170 over Bax's 115/145. Heck, all of KB's stats are higher than Bax's

  • @midnightjeff4326
    @midnightjeff4326 7 місяців тому +51

    Kinda curious to see if ho-oh gets revival blessing it fits with its lore so would be a crazy addition

    • @airam1721
      @airam1721 7 місяців тому +3

      Until you remember zacian gets iron defense but zamazenta doesn't get swords dance

    • @daniellejackson6543
      @daniellejackson6543 7 місяців тому +3

      ​​@@airam1721well zacian is made of metal but zamazenta isn't made of swords. Also Ho-Oh getting revival blessing is too hype for them to pass up on as it isn't really a signature move per say.

    • @airam1721
      @airam1721 7 місяців тому +2

      @@daniellejackson6543 well, the iron isn't meant to be that sturdy, but it should be totally pointy, and vice versa for zamazenta but he still can't get those cool swords

  • @choatixtherobot
    @choatixtherobot 7 місяців тому +79

    If Cosmog is still in the game, it'll keep Teleport for its evolutions. Teleport was lost mostly because it was a TM in gen 1 VC and that was it.

    • @biscuitboi3561
      @biscuitboi3561 7 місяців тому +1

      Deoxys got it too which might be good with defense

  • @balisticemerald8512
    @balisticemerald8512 7 місяців тому +69

    Really don't think Kyurem will stay in OU. It's already tough to break, imagine what snow defense boost + Aurora Veil is going to do to it (hint: Ninetails-A can survive STAB Iron Heads). Like this thing will always be behind a sub or with 3 Dragon Dances under the belt, then tera to a good defensive or offensive type and mess things up

    • @tonberry2670
      @tonberry2670 7 місяців тому +8

      I feel like after a certain point, Veil or Light Clay might be the real issue here

    • @carsonbiller1825
      @carsonbiller1825 7 місяців тому +1

      yeah, the sub dd set is just too nasty with its enormous 125 hp

    • @lazerwolf1983
      @lazerwolf1983 7 місяців тому

      Also, it can now lose its troublesome defensive typing and become steel with stab Flash Cannon.

    • @rancidpenguin2489
      @rancidpenguin2489 7 місяців тому

      isn't it uubl in national dex? And it'll probably be losing roost because it was a transfer move from a TM.

  • @slemded
    @slemded 7 місяців тому +429

    classic returning legendaries like ho oh and lugia will finally be available to use in gen 9.

    • @noahwells7922
      @noahwells7922 7 місяців тому +74

      With the upcoming release of the indigo disk DLC

    • @tyketyke
      @tyketyke 7 місяців тому +59

      Gen 9 Ubers is about to look completely different with all of these incredible new options to choose from.

    • @roshanb8388
      @roshanb8388 7 місяців тому +45

      But which returning legendaries are going to be the best in competetive singles?

    • @fizhing
      @fizhing 7 місяців тому +47

      Lets take a look folks.

    • @playerthatalwaysgotglitcha65
      @playerthatalwaysgotglitcha65 7 місяців тому +38

      Let's take a look let's talk about kyurem first.

  • @lovelylunarlady
    @lovelylunarlady 7 місяців тому +105

    Kyurem will lose Roost, unless it comes back as a TM in the DLC. Kyurem had access to Roost via TM in gen 7, so it's a transfer move. So just like Gliscor, who also lost roost.
    Without recovery, I think Kyurem will be less annoying and should be fine to start in OU. Could eventually get banned with just the specs set but only time will tell.

    • @Gold_Gamer_100
      @Gold_Gamer_100 7 місяців тому +27

      Given how crazy high the ceiling is in OU, who knows, maybe Kyurem could stay, even if for a little bit. Kyurem-B however, is getting quickbanned.
      Aurora Veil+Snow on a Dragon Dancer is just Baxcalibur 2.0

    • @Imitationist
      @Imitationist 7 місяців тому +3

      ​​@@Gold_Gamer_100 It still gets checked by Zacian and Magearna in Uubers so we"ll have to wait for kinesquared to publish the usage rage

    • @bluebaron6811
      @bluebaron6811 7 місяців тому +5

      Nah, dude got Dragon Dance and Icicle Spear in gen 8; thats why him, as well as his Black Lizards Matter persona, got banned.

    • @fractalisomega9517
      @fractalisomega9517 7 місяців тому

      Without roost it’s down to UU and lower

    • @JavierNS4
      @JavierNS4 7 місяців тому +2

      I think you are forgetting the buff to his defense on snow with Alola Ninetales + aurora Veil to set up

  • @AngryAyrab
    @AngryAyrab 7 місяців тому +22

    Please talk about Ledian and how it’s going to be a huge threat.

  • @zememerr2329
    @zememerr2329 7 місяців тому +47

    It’s very likely Solgaleo keeps Teleport. Cosmog and Cosmoem have incredibly few moves, one of them being Teleport. So, unless they’re feeling especially cruel to those 2, I imagine the whole line will keep Teleport

    • @furiouscorgi6614
      @furiouscorgi6614 7 місяців тому +1

      Seeing as Cosmog and Cosmoem were restricted legends in VGC, they'll keep Teleport to have a niche

    • @daniellejackson6543
      @daniellejackson6543 7 місяців тому +1

      ​​​@@furiouscorgi6614Who the *clown noises* would want to use cosmog or cosmoem over something useful like groudon, kyogre, miraidon, and even non restricted mons?

    • @furiouscorgi6614
      @furiouscorgi6614 7 місяців тому +1

      @daniellejackson6543 nobody. They're Restricted Legends for the same way that Kubfu is, they're in the evolutionary line

    • @daniellejackson6543
      @daniellejackson6543 7 місяців тому +1

      ​​@@furiouscorgi6614Well you were the one that said they have a niche. Also urshifu isn't a restricted legendary.

    • @furiouscorgi6614
      @furiouscorgi6614 7 місяців тому +1

      @@daniellejackson6543 i forgor. that being said, their niche is being bad, I'm an expert at it

  • @sramain2852
    @sramain2852 7 місяців тому +4

    1:37 Jim called them dogs, it’s never been more over, folks

  • @marcorodriguez8792
    @marcorodriguez8792 7 місяців тому +19

    Just being able to use my Lugia that was once shadow in Gale of Darkness makes me happy. I plan to also bring Ho-oh from Colosseum after I win the 100 MT battle challenge with it. I am hype for this DLC

    • @thomasxl200
      @thomasxl200 7 місяців тому +4

      Same dude, I brought my friend's Shadow Lugia that he traded me 2 decades ago up through every single game and I can't wait to bring it up to Violet. Same with my HGSS Ho-Oh, one of the first mons I EV trained in Heart Gold back in the day when EV training was actually somewhat difficult lol.

    • @airam1721
      @airam1721 7 місяців тому

      ​@@thomasxl200 what did he trade shadow Lugia for?

  • @expo_pkmn
    @expo_pkmn 7 місяців тому +2

    Please never get rid of the opening sequences between the Pokemon. Truly a highlight to my day

  • @Munby1
    @Munby1 7 місяців тому +13

    That poor bird is missing a wing. What did Jim do

    • @jimothycool
      @jimothycool  7 місяців тому +14

      You be quiet.

    • @senny-
      @senny- 7 місяців тому +6

      It'll just Regenerate, dw.
      Ho-oh is an infinite fried chicken generator if you think about it.

    • @Munby1
      @Munby1 7 місяців тому

      @@senny- I think we should consult "Ho-Oh" on that before making any assumptions

  • @jamesh7469
    @jamesh7469 7 місяців тому +12

    Cosmog has Teleport as like it's only move, so Solgaleo almost certainly has teleport

  • @elijahgriffin5435
    @elijahgriffin5435 7 місяців тому +4

    Actually, shadow shield is slightly different. They figured that Lunala needed the dlc privilege, so its shadow shield is immune to mold breaker abilties. This actually is useful sometimes, as it lets it deal with zekrom and reshiram much more easily.

  • @oxedward4738
    @oxedward4738 7 місяців тому +6

    You didn’t talk about the Necrozmas. Dusk Mane has been a really big presence in the past.

    • @allieginter8438
      @allieginter8438 7 місяців тому +3

      I think he missed the Kyurem fusions and the Swords of Justice too

  • @VerbalLearning
    @VerbalLearning 7 місяців тому +23

    I don't know if there's any official nomenclature for the new Uber tiers (which we'll likely get more off in the future) but i really love the idea of referring to them as OUbers and UUbers and so on.

    • @kimotokirby1601
      @kimotokirby1601 7 місяців тому +1

      there is, uubers is official

    • @Dragostorm21
      @Dragostorm21 7 місяців тому +2

      Isn't it uu ubers rather than uubers officially? People should still refer to it as uubers, the name is too good

    • @theapexsurvivor9538
      @theapexsurvivor9538 7 місяців тому +7

      ​@@Dragostorm21yeah, the format proposal was for UUbers, but the showdown mods didn't want people thinking it was a typo so forced it to be Ubers UU.
      Of course, the instant Gen 10 DLC releases we'll just get a new clump of ladders: OUbers, UUbers, RUbers...
      Gen 11 will make ZUbers a thing on launch and Zubat WILL have higher usage in it than Mewtwo in Gen 1...

    • @Dragostorm21
      @Dragostorm21 7 місяців тому +1

      @@theapexsurvivor9538 unfortunately it isn't possible to have more than 100% usage. But zubat doesn't care about what "math" thinks

    • @theapexsurvivor9538
      @theapexsurvivor9538 7 місяців тому

      @@Dragostorm21 exactly, it just cares that repels can't be used in battle...

  • @cjodol3271
    @cjodol3271 7 місяців тому +11

    Ho-oh Will basically be a better version of Home meta Moltres

  • @Verde-Firepaw
    @Verde-Firepaw 7 місяців тому +5

    Zekrom has already shown itself to be useful considering it had to face zacian in gen 8 and could win if it got a dragon dance up out running and koing a lot of things.

    • @wonderfulrose477
      @wonderfulrose477 7 місяців тому +1

      His reasoning was that it’s now directly competing against Miraidon for electric/dragon and why would you choose zekrom over Miraidon

    • @Verde-Firepaw
      @Verde-Firepaw 7 місяців тому

      @@wonderfulrose477 I would pick zekrom, I play scarlet. (Even if I did have violet I still like zekrom better)

  • @IndiraDevi-yq6vm
    @IndiraDevi-yq6vm 7 місяців тому +12

    solgaleo WILL keep teleport. Cosmog learns only teleport.

  • @snakeydookey6683
    @snakeydookey6683 7 місяців тому +1

    I love the dialouge between pokemon at the start of your videos

  • @dVector13
    @dVector13 7 місяців тому +2

    ho-oh brothers we are so back

  • @TheRedStinger82
    @TheRedStinger82 7 місяців тому +8

    Necrozma Dusk Mane is also coming back, meaning that it will be another great Ubers Pokemon

  • @M3rtyville
    @M3rtyville 7 місяців тому +5

    Lugia can finally become a water type how it suppose to be.

  • @lesqueegee
    @lesqueegee 7 місяців тому +5

    Regenerator is one of the best abilities in the entire game

  • @JustInCaseD
    @JustInCaseD 7 місяців тому +12

    Solgaleo will likely retain Teleport when coming to gen 9, purely because its one of the only moves that Cosmog learns. I don't think Gamefreak will go out of their way to to axe one of the 2 moves from the little puff cloud's moveset, which works to Solgaleo's benefit.

    • @mlpfanboy1701
      @mlpfanboy1701 4 місяці тому

      Instead it just makes it impossible to catch one, you just transfer it.

  • @robin_nohood2515
    @robin_nohood2515 7 місяців тому +4

    a set I used in gen 7 that I used to counter stall was: reflect type, calm mind, recover, stored power latias.
    it does noting against dark types but if you target dark types with coverage it can just solo stall teams.

    • @robin_nohood2515
      @robin_nohood2515 7 місяців тому

      @@olivergro7105 reflect type on ferro corviknight or pex

  • @viana0672
    @viana0672 7 місяців тому +31

    Ho-oh will be in like 70 % usage, and some counters to it will rise too

  • @travisteatime
    @travisteatime 7 місяців тому

    Would love to see a follow-up video on this once the legendaries actually are available, with you reacting to all your predictions, keeping track of how much you got right. That could be fun.

  • @DkKobaADV
    @DkKobaADV 7 місяців тому +2

    Cheers mate thanks for the video. Legendaries are returning that's insane cheers. 👍👍

  • @elessar4864
    @elessar4864 7 місяців тому +3

    Insanity all around

  • @zezimahot69
    @zezimahot69 7 місяців тому +1

    Mali City theme for Lunala. This is Insane.

  • @peet-janissen5838
    @peet-janissen5838 7 місяців тому +11

    Solgaleo is probably gonna keep teleport given that it is a level up move

    • @IndiraDevi-yq6vm
      @IndiraDevi-yq6vm 7 місяців тому +7

      it IS gonna lol cosmog learns no other moves.

    • @PhantomBunny888
      @PhantomBunny888 7 місяців тому

      Cosmog will get NOTHING and like it @@IndiraDevi-yq6vm

  • @subtodicerat8305
    @subtodicerat8305 7 місяців тому +1

    i have waited the whole day for this video. i can say the wait was worth it.

  • @emeraldblade3747
    @emeraldblade3747 7 місяців тому +3

    ive always wanted to run hone claws zekrom to fix bolt strike, but also the speed boost from dd, now it can just use scale shot

    • @furiouscorgi6614
      @furiouscorgi6614 7 місяців тому

      and Hone Claws even helps out Scale Shot being 90 acc

  • @CoolerThanHot
    @CoolerThanHot 7 місяців тому +1

    I would to mention that Kyurem can actually use a physical set now, with the addition of loaded dice it can now actually use icicle spear without the fear of it not getting enough it’s in, that with dragon dance you could pull off a sweeper set with the help of snow allowing you to tank hits as you set up.

  • @destroyingpotato
    @destroyingpotato 7 місяців тому +3

    Both kyurem and zekrom get dragon dance, I feel like kyurem with its 130 base atk could become similar to baxcalibur with a loaded dice set.
    Zekrom was also one of the most scary sweepers in gen 8 Ubers so it definitely could make a comeback. (at the very least its not dropping to UUbers)

  • @bdzmru8489
    @bdzmru8489 7 місяців тому +2

    If ho oh gets revival blessing being a phoenix and all it will further make this Pokémon insanely popular in Uber

  • @babagryva5954
    @babagryva5954 7 місяців тому +1

    I really want to try gen 9 ubers or uubers, looks very fun, thank you jimothy cool for inspiring me

  • @typhlosion7872
    @typhlosion7872 7 місяців тому

    Lunala may be the mon that benefits most from terastalization. Turning multiple 4x weaknesses to some of the most common offensive types in the game with dark and ghost into neutralities or resistances while changing your type to an amazing defensive type like fairy, water, or steel

  • @waterwallets
    @waterwallets 7 місяців тому +6

    You must have forgot about GSC Raikou when you said Suicune has always been the best of the trio

    • @jimothycool
      @jimothycool  7 місяців тому +7

      I did forget that Lol.

    • @Blanktester685
      @Blanktester685 7 місяців тому

      id argue raikou still isn't the best.

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 7 місяців тому +2

      @@Blanktester685 Suicune's been the most consistent I'd argue but Raikou's no slouch.

    • @waterwallets
      @waterwallets 7 місяців тому

      Suicune definitely better in more gens but in gen 2, Raikou is generally ranked a couple of tiers above Suicune

  • @typhlosion7872
    @typhlosion7872 7 місяців тому +1

    For Ho-oh, not even just before Boots, but it was great in gen 4 with only Pressure. Nuclear threat on sun teams and just terrifyingly strong overall

  • @parkerdixon-word6295
    @parkerdixon-word6295 7 місяців тому +1

    Latias as a Calm Mind sweeper was one of my standbye favorite mons in Gen 8 OU, alongside Corvioknight and Gliscor for a core of bulky pokemon with roost and stat boosting moves.
    I just used normal attacking moves- I think Psychic and Aura Sphere, but it might've been Dragon Pulse instead of Psychic, rather than Stored Power to force reliance on Calm Mind. It was important to sometimes just be able to hit them without a boost, if you needed to apply pressure.

  • @thomasxl200
    @thomasxl200 7 місяців тому +2

    Looking at my Ho-Oh plushie with pride knowing that my favorite mon still has the sauce after all these years

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 7 місяців тому +1

      Ever since it got Brave Bird. And then in Gen 5 gaining Regenerator. And Boots so Stealth Rock is much less annoying.

    • @thomasxl200
      @thomasxl200 7 місяців тому

      @@ShiningJudgment666 Only gets better with age. Sacred Fire going physical was pretty huge too

  • @cowgirltheworld
    @cowgirltheworld 7 місяців тому +6

    I LOVE HO-OH I LOVE HO-OH

  • @pberlin9321
    @pberlin9321 7 місяців тому

    Good vid Jimothy, some mons that you forgot to talk about were Necrozma Dusk Mane and Necrozma Dawn Wings. Dusk Mane was a Top 3 mon in usage last generation and I’m sure that it will have another successful generation. Dawn Wings I’m not as sure about in the Ubers format, but it has always found some levels of success in restricted formats of VGC. Even base Necrozma can find some success in the RU tier, where I’m predicting it to end up.

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 7 місяців тому

      Dawn Wings is in the hell of being unviable in Ubers but clearly too strong for OU. It's outclassed by Lunala. Dusk Mane is awesome on the other hand.

  • @CrimsonGaia
    @CrimsonGaia 7 місяців тому +1

    Think Reshiram might have potential in Ubers UU as a check to magearna

  • @astridparungao4971
    @astridparungao4971 7 місяців тому +3

    I do hope Ho-Oh and Lugia gets a new forme or upgrade in a way. They're the only dual cover legendaries from the classic era that never got it.

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 7 місяців тому +3

      Their Hidden Abilities were their upgrades and both are great ones to have.

    • @teno777
      @teno777 7 місяців тому

      @@ShiningJudgment666 And both have survived the test of time so far, can’t say the same for some. :(

  • @EggLemonSoup
    @EggLemonSoup 7 місяців тому +1

    Solgaleo having teleport is actually kinda critical lore lol, it didn't just get it from the gen 8 changes. It had it by level in 7 and 8. No way it loses it in gen 9

  • @naturalharmoniagropius4486
    @naturalharmoniagropius4486 7 місяців тому +27

    Classic returning legendaries like Ho-oh and Lugia will finally be available to use in Gen 9.

    • @aminelonix
      @aminelonix 7 місяців тому +9

      with the upcoming release of the indigo disk DLC

    • @c_f0rce
      @c_f0rce 7 місяців тому +6

      ​@@aminelonixGen 9 Ubers is about to look completely different

    • @telstraRobs5
      @telstraRobs5 7 місяців тому

      @@c_f0rcewith all of these incredible new options to choose from.

    • @theschnozzler
      @theschnozzler 7 місяців тому

      Ok

  • @HarryvandeSunweb
    @HarryvandeSunweb 7 місяців тому +1

    I have used ho-oh quite a bit in natdex ubers, usually tera grass, for some reason that just seems to work. You dont even need tera every game but having that in your back pocket as ho-oh is incredible. Fire/flying is actually quite good if your opponent is not using stealth rock and rock types, and rock types are actually pretty rare in ubers.
    Edit: after verifying I can confirm that the only rock type in natdex ubers, is arceus rock, wich in my experience is extremely rare to see.

  • @jericho86
    @jericho86 7 місяців тому +1

    You forgot to mention that Ho-oh benefits from Koraidon's sun.

  • @Dragostorm21
    @Dragostorm21 7 місяців тому +3

    Necrozma lunala finally might have a home in uubers

    • @glitch9643
      @glitch9643 7 місяців тому

      Meta too hostile for base Necrozma. I agree with Lunala though.

    • @Dragostorm21
      @Dragostorm21 7 місяців тому

      @@glitch9643 I meant the fusion between lunala and necrozma. It has almost never seen actual play because outside of ultra necrozma it has the same dex number as the goated dusk mane

    • @glitch9643
      @glitch9643 7 місяців тому

      @@Dragostorm21 Ah, true. If we get Dawn-Wings back, it would probably be at home in Ubers UU.

  • @Hammerbruder99
    @Hammerbruder99 7 місяців тому

    The reason why Solgaleo has Teleport is Cosmoem's movepool, which consists of Teleport, Cosmic Power and Splash. :D

  • @carrotsareepic4993
    @carrotsareepic4993 7 місяців тому +2

    I feel like if Kyreum can deal massive damage to Gliscor it'd be a fantastic choice for an ice type + freeze dry is a plus

  • @Milesprowerthegamer
    @Milesprowerthegamer 7 місяців тому +2

    Solgaleo will 100% still have Teleport because it's a move learnt by Cosmog. One of Cosmog's only two moves.

  • @dinonadoop
    @dinonadoop 7 місяців тому +1

    I think Solgaleo will probably keep teleport. Most pokemon lost it because it was a gen 1 TM and you can no longer transfer those moves, but teleport is one of very few moves that Cosmog/Cosmoem learn naturally

  • @calook1334
    @calook1334 7 місяців тому +2

    Hear me out - CB Ho-Oh in VGC

  • @shepardice3775
    @shepardice3775 7 місяців тому +3

    Every time I hear "Ubers UU" I marvel at how far Gamefreak has come with power creep that there's a tier above Ubers and a tier of Ubers that are too weak. That's no easy feat

    • @diegomedina9637
      @diegomedina9637 7 місяців тому +1

      It's almost like the number of Pokemon has doubled since the time Competitive pokemon really took off.

  • @evancherpeski1876
    @evancherpeski1876 7 місяців тому +1

    The 3d model for mewtwo is so beautiful ❤

  • @leonardohernandezcabrera7541
    @leonardohernandezcabrera7541 7 місяців тому

    Also tera electric latios y latias with thunderbolt and stored power sounds good.

  • @HoChiPro
    @HoChiPro 7 місяців тому +2

    Two words: Kyurem snow

  • @mgjvd
    @mgjvd 7 місяців тому +3

    Solgaleo will probably have teleport, I’m pretty sure the only Pokémon that lost TP were gen 1 Pokémon because of Let’s Go. Technically they already lost them in gen 8 but smogon allowed home moves, which SV forces out instead of only in online

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 7 місяців тому +1

      Up to Gen 8 movesets didn't change through transfer. In Gen 9 they're reset. Technically since BDSP but that's its own thing.

  • @The_Natalist
    @The_Natalist 6 місяців тому +1

    Lol, the Phoenix won't die? What a surprise

  • @beanburrito4405
    @beanburrito4405 7 місяців тому +1

    I hope Solgaleo gets tested in OU. That guy doesn’t even look overpowered in standard play. Would probably be high tier like Zama but not crazy

  • @ellytrabread
    @ellytrabread 7 місяців тому

    When im in a reintroducing and balancing competition and my opponent is the terastalization gimmick

  • @AI-DreigonGPT
    @AI-DreigonGPT 7 місяців тому +5

    I don't care if Reshiram sucks at least he is back 😭

  • @orangeaurora
    @orangeaurora 7 місяців тому

    solagleo will absolutely keep teleport since it evolves from cosmog, which iirc has it and splash as its only 2 moves

  • @aph2885
    @aph2885 7 місяців тому +2

    nice video keep it up

  • @demi-femme4821
    @demi-femme4821 7 місяців тому +1

    "Ho-Oh with Tera" is a ohrase that strikes fear into Arceus' heart.

  • @daniellejackson6543
    @daniellejackson6543 7 місяців тому

    The set I MIGHT run is
    Sacred fire
    Thunder wave
    Toxic
    Earthquake/roost/revival blessing if it gets it. RB is the most likely for me to use followed by earthquake but I had to mention the former after roost as it isn't confirmed.
    In all seriousness I might just use dusk mane as it has stealth rocks or terapagos as it will probably be ultra broken.
    You are sorta underselling zekrom as it has the potential to be more threatening after set up, although the competition between it is sort of an uphill battle. It is ranked b+ in nat dex ubers but that could just be because miraidon is banned but I heard rayquaza is decent.
    New addition hone claws can help with scale shot and bolt strike accuracy as long as you can set up efficiently.

  • @ZorryCafe
    @ZorryCafe 7 місяців тому +1

    zekrom will probably have a stallbreaking niche in ubers

  • @reshi-chat6998
    @reshi-chat6998 7 місяців тому

    I wonder if raikou and suicune will still have scald because even if there is the TM, some pokemon lost it, but it will be weird that raikou got scald in gen 8 only, and only him learning it will be even weirder.

  • @gambleralex5083
    @gambleralex5083 7 місяців тому +1

    Zekrom has dragon dance which is nice and Will make it stay in ubers

  • @jamiewilliams5309
    @jamiewilliams5309 7 місяців тому

    So many of these Pokémon could have new life put into them with the addition of tera

  • @allieginter8438
    @allieginter8438 7 місяців тому

    I'm looking forward to Kyurem and Necrozma coming back just because having legendaries that can fuse with other legendaries is cool as hell

  • @sthui2866
    @sthui2866 7 місяців тому +2

    Wasn't physical ice STAB in icicle spear the other reason it was banned? It is 100% going to be banned if bax is anything

  • @jman2050
    @jman2050 7 місяців тому

    Ho-oh is finally ready to embrace his true calling, that being an Annoying Bulky Water

  • @marcelomelo9977
    @marcelomelo9977 7 місяців тому +1

    Tera assaul vest Ho-Oh would be some crazy strat

    • @thomasxl200
      @thomasxl200 7 місяців тому +1

      I'm ready for my stupid fkn choice band Ho-Oh set to break through everything

    • @daniellejackson6543
      @daniellejackson6543 7 місяців тому

      ​@@thomasxl200what tera? Also good luck being worse than choice band koraidon.

  • @AceAviations2
    @AceAviations2 7 місяців тому

    I see potential in Entei this time around, maybe not OU, but UU or RU. The thing that makes Dragonite so good possibly applying to Entei as well, Terra-Normal Extreme Speed. Give it a Choice Band, combine it with Flare Blitz (the shiny event Entei), and it could hit quite hard.
    Plus Terra Blast could be used for coverage if using a different Terra-Type to punish possible counters, Water for rock and ground types, Grass for those and Water types. It could have some potential with this gen's new gimmick.

  • @Jack-jy8fb
    @Jack-jy8fb 7 місяців тому

    Idk, if Zekrom has dragon dance or hone claws/scale shot, it could be pretty good in Ubers with Tera

    • @daniellejackson6543
      @daniellejackson6543 7 місяців тому

      It has had hone claws and learned scale shot and dragon dance as of gen 8.

    • @Jack-jy8fb
      @Jack-jy8fb 7 місяців тому +1

      @@daniellejackson6543 yes but we never had Tera before and electric terrain is literally everywhere

  • @Andreecals
    @Andreecals 7 місяців тому

    I can see great stuff happening if zekron gets scale shot, tho

  • @speculyn5060
    @speculyn5060 7 місяців тому +1

    I think Kyurem is going to get pushed over the edge by Alolatales if it's allowed in OU.

  • @RainbowLizardOne
    @RainbowLizardOne 7 місяців тому

    I've seen people discussing Solgaleo for OU. I think it might just be too silly in terms of set variety + bulk, but it's giving me pretty strong Zamazenta vibes still.

  • @leonardobarbosatelles2779
    @leonardobarbosatelles2779 7 місяців тому

    I think Tera Electric Latios with Specs will be awesome

  • @bradensmith8682
    @bradensmith8682 7 місяців тому +3

    Ho-Oh. What Tera Types would be most powerful in Ubers? Fairy, or perhaps Ground(EQ)? Or just go nuts with Tera Flying(Brave Bird)?

    • @naturalharmoniagropius4486
      @naturalharmoniagropius4486 7 місяців тому +5

      Tera Ground ftw, You won't getting rocks with it. I love using Tera Ground Ho-oh in Nat Dex Ubers. Very bulky dude

    • @melikmourali2072
      @melikmourali2072 7 місяців тому +7

      Ground and Fairy for sure. The thing is, Fire / Flying is already excellent when paired with a Sun setter because you have no "Special type weakness" besides Electric. If you manage to keep your Boots you will never lose Ho-Oh

    • @glitch9643
      @glitch9643 7 місяців тому +1

      Tera Grass if you want a safety net vs non-Taunt Physical Arceus-Ground, Groudon, and Kyogre.
      Tera Fairy if you want an emergency answer vs SD Scale Shot Koraidon.
      Tera Ground if you want to play mind games with cocky Miraidon/Zekrom, works well with Earthquake too.

  • @chester1882
    @chester1882 7 місяців тому +1

    Even if they aren’t good enough to cut it in Ubers - we’ve got Ubers UU now for them to find a place as more defensive pieces in the meta game (Tera Ground/Water Ho-Ho and Lugia)
    Also - with the power level we have now, Pressure stall is optimistic.

    • @IndiraDevi-tq2wq
      @IndiraDevi-tq2wq 7 місяців тому +2

      Ho oh is going to the elite ubers tier. No way its dropping to uubers unless laddef gets crazy

  • @gageczajkowski7755
    @gageczajkowski7755 7 місяців тому +2

    So funny hearing the difference between singles and doubles players talking about the same mon… smogon player “entei is the worst beast” VGC player “entei is the best beast” lmao

  • @olympusgolemoflight7198
    @olympusgolemoflight7198 7 місяців тому +1

    What about Kyogre? Setting up the rain would cancel out Koraidon's sun, while also providing perfect accuracy for Thunders on Electric Terrain.

  • @presidenttogekiss635
    @presidenttogekiss635 7 місяців тому +1

    Solgaleo cant loose Teleport.
    The reason it has it is because Teleport is the only move that Cosmog and Cosmoen can learn. Thus Solgaleo and Lunala keep it

  • @YosiahW
    @YosiahW 7 місяців тому

    Pls talk about Rayquaza next? I just transfered over my shiny Rayquaza from Pokémon GO and I'm hoping that it will be good since it's usually outshines by Kyogre and Groudon.

  • @leonardobarbosatelles2779
    @leonardobarbosatelles2779 7 місяців тому +3

    O actually think Zekrom can be cool alongside Miraidon. Mirai invites in special walls that Zekrom can abuse to set up. Zekrom also has Scale Shot and Hone Claws, which will boost its accuracy and guarantee Scale Shot and Bolt Strike to hit, and let me tell you, no one is interested on eating a +1 Terrain Boosted Bolt Strike. Yeah ground types are immune, but then u give Zekrom the chance to go for a likely Loaded Dice Scale Shot with perfect accuracy

  • @DCBiscuit
    @DCBiscuit 7 місяців тому

    1:57
    The fact that even with Tera, Entei is probably gonna be weak as hell again is just so damn unfortunate. Like, I think it could see some proper use since that mono fire typing is what has held it back before but it’s just sad that 115 ATK/SPE is par for the course in Gen 9.

  • @TheZett
    @TheZett 7 місяців тому

    1:38 "the legendary dogs from gen 2"
    In what world are a lion, a tiger and a leopard dogs?

  • @ajko000
    @ajko000 7 місяців тому

    As an older fan, seeing Lugia and Ho-Oh again is going to be a treat. I love them both.

  • @senny-
    @senny- 7 місяців тому

    Zekrom as a top tier mon in Ubers last gen. I feel like it'll actually compete with Miraidon. But I'm probably wrong.