@@pusanghalaw I kind of wonder if Severin or Siouxsie were wankers to work with given the fact that they went through a couple drummers & even more guitar players at a time when they were already signed. I'm leaning more towards Severin being the prick.
@@Kronaphasia youre right, theres a 1994 interview w robert smith you can find on tcdb youtube channel, he talks about how souxsie was incredibly pretentious (the most pretentious intellectual hes known) and says severin was rude towards mary, or anyone else he didn't deem worthy/ basically saying budgie was the best of the bunch. it wasn't really said w any malice, just an observation of how they were. Its no wonder they couldnt keep a guitarist.
Robert Smith is an inventive and intuitive Guitarist and an innovative composer. He has written some of the most memorable Guitar Riffs in New Wave/Gothic music!
lol he’s pretty good but he was no match for McGeoch, who played this song with a lot more competence and energy. Robert Smith’s songwriting was where all the money magic happened.
I still crush on her like a teenage boy. She was soooo much more interesting than any of her contemporaries, with her mix of brains, good looks, creativity, and wild sense of style...and that band was just killer, so trippy, dark, and edgy.
Patrick Cannady i got a friend she’s look exactly like her. And it those days she made intentionally dress/makeup/hairstyle loke Soiuxie and we were crazy about her. Ah 80’s ...i miss those years...
@Withnail Kate Bush was a very beautiful woman back in the '70s. I only know of her hit single "Wuthering Heights". I believe Pink Floyd's David Gilmour produced that single!
@Withnail I didn't really get any exposure to her. It took considerable effort to find opportunities to hear anything other than formulaic pop by the likes of MJ, Madonna, etc. where I grew up...it was no backwater, we are talking about a metropolitan area of 3 million people...the market in general lacked interest in punk, post-punk, goth, etc. It was all Madonna, all Michael Jackson, and their legions of imitators, all the time.
As Robert Smith said: 'The band is called Siouxsie and the Banshees, not Robert and the Banshees.' One of their best guitarists was John Mcgeoch . Still Love Siouxsie Sioux.
I love how when Robert Smith talked about leaving the banshees People told him he was insane for thinking of leaving a sure thing. He left just as the wheels started spinning in favor of Souxsie & The Banshees, But he proved everyone who ever doubted him wrong with the cure. Great stories in musical history.
@@CMZIEBARTH I read somewhere that Siouxsie was very disappointed when Robert Smith decided to leave the band due to exhaustion. There might have been some friction between them both that, sad to say, was never reconciled. Robert Smith has always been very loyal to Siouxsie stepping in to help her after the abrupt departure of John McKay in '79 and then again after the dismissal of John McGeoch in '82. I love how they both first worked together on The Cure's "I'm Cold" where Siouxsie contributed some backing Vocals. "I'm Cold" is one of my all time favorite Cure tracks! It is very Psychedelic!
They are brilliant. I noticed siouxsie really listens to her voice which is why the echos are so powerful. Brilliant timing and punctuation. This song is better live than studio because of their performance skills. If u are better live than studio you have immense tallent. So focused. Love them.
Robert Smith looks so cool dressed in black and playing a black coloured Vox Phantom Guitar! I had never seen one until I viewed this clip! Brian Jones, of The Rolling Stones, popularized the Vox Phantom Guitar back in the 1960s. Brian's was painted white. I've seen a clip of Siouxsie Sioux playing a Dark Blue Vox Phantom alongside Robert Smith whilst performing "Sin In My Heart" in concert!
That's a Vox Mark III or VI Teardrop (I'm not sure what the difference is) not a Phantom (which is the coffin-shaped body). The one she plays in Sin in My Heart is also either a MkIII or MkVI. If you look at the guitar Ian Curtis is playing in the Love Will Tear Us Apart video, that's a Phantom. Also, Brian Jones played a MkIII Teardrop
I'm so glad these performances were captured, it's so fantastic, My hat's off to Robert Smith fulfilling in, its no easy task to tackle those John McGeoch guitar parts and guitar sound
This is a hit. That represents the new wave and post-punk. Only 1 year of life in that time. I'm 41 years old now, and I grew up with this music particularly Punk Rock and Hardcore Punk. I have that feeling. Time passes and the theme is better. Strong times of the Dark wave (Bauhaus), New Wave, Psychobilly, hxc punk and Ska. Greetings from a Punk from the end of the world (Chile). All the Rockers of the 90s grew up with this music. Siouxsie and Robert Smith (The Cure) are icons in these parts of the world.
This song and the line "we've lost our sorrow" are just incredible. Robert Smith although not a favorite of mine adds a special touch to it with his guitar playing. Its just a great great song live.
When this was filmed The Cure just released Let's Go To Bed, within a day or two of this performance.The Banshees visited Robert in the studio while he was recording it and asked him to join.
Matthew Reese Robert had been involved with the banshees way earlier when the cure supported the banshees and the guitarist an drummer walked out. He was involved on and off until 1984
Right.But after the 79 tour John McGeoch joined and during fall of 82 he had a breakdown due to alcohol abuse.Severin and the bands manager Dave Woods went to visit him at the health farm snd instead found him in a nearby pub with some of the institutions residents and he was completely out of his head.They askec Robert to join within a day while he was in the studio.He said he would but this time he wanted to record with them.He was with them until May of 84 when he had to leave due to his own exhaustion and continuing Cure commitments.
The lush arpeggios and ethereal lyrics showed the Banshees at their very peak....paradoxically this artistic high point saw them lose the services of their finest guitarist Jhn McGeoch, though Smith filled in ably here. For many the Banshees remained that musical enigma, forever associated with the punk era, who had yet evolved from their post punk period into something altogether unique.....the Gothic moniker was obviously a convenient label, but truly, each album they produced was individual, partly due to the contributions of some the finest modern guitarists...McKay, McGeoch, Smith and Carruthers....oh what a time it was to be young in this remarkable period of music, fashion, youth culture....oh how I pity today's youth!
Budgie is one of the most under rated drummers from the 80's. I don't know why no one ever name checks him. I would put him right up there with Stewart Copeland.
I think Robert and steve severin remained friends but pretty sure smith still hasn't been forgiven even now after 30 years by siouxsie for pulling out of that tour...shame because today it would be fascinating to see them play a set together again
I'm enjoying Robert Smith's guitar playing, somewhat reminiscent of "The Edge's" approach during U2's early years. This earthy, post-punk is both austere yet sophisticated; an avant-gardism forming, spontaneously before your eyes. Siouxsie's presence and evocative vocals are raw and aloof, yet intimate; this band were always at the high-end of the punk movement, perhaps paving the way for bands such as the Cocteau Twins and the Cure. Great stuff! :-)
You can hear the Robin Guthrie tones in that guitar. In fact, it probably influenced Paul Wright in Fields of the Nephilim as well, for some of their later work...
What a time in music! Robert would play with Siouxsie and the Banshees, work on the Glove collaboration with Steve Severin and the experimental Cure album that would follow...
Excellent work by the house engineer. The band sounds great and he hits those vocal echoes perfectly on time. That’s right kids, a middle aged man with a pony tail offstage is doing it. 😺
Love seeing a young Robert Smith, knowing all the songs he would write in the future. No one could ever say anything but he is a true musical genius. Not fair how one person can be so damn gifted, and I can’t do anything. Damn
@@CONSIDERABLYMORE1 You talk shit because McGeoch wasn't the only banshees guitarist and If you know about guitar, play If you dare all these themes. If you are not a guitarist, just shut up.
@@CONSIDERABLYMORE1 yea, McGeoch did write the guitar parts, but they’re not easy to play accurately, which Robert pulls off. Also, if you listen to the cure’s early work, Robert was the sole guitarist of the band, and there is some great guitar work on their first few albums.
@@Indieguitarist2007 a) i wasn't replying to you b) the clown to whom I was responding implied Smith was "upgrading" the Banshees sound, which is a ridiculous statement. So, run along Smith "fanboy", this aint your argument.
Budgie, Steven Severin, Siouxsie Sioux and Robert Smith. What a fantastic combination. They should all live together in a happy house.
Amazing combination.
I suspect that if they all lived together, it would end up becoming a funny farm instead!
banshees creatively peaked with carruthers, not smith (nor mcgeoch) . check the thorn ep and the tinderbox lp to verify.
@@pusanghalaw I kind of wonder if Severin or Siouxsie were wankers to work with given the fact that they went through a couple drummers & even more guitar players at a time when they were already signed. I'm leaning more towards Severin being the prick.
@@Kronaphasia youre right, theres a 1994 interview w robert smith you can find on tcdb youtube channel, he talks about how souxsie was incredibly pretentious (the most pretentious intellectual hes known) and says severin was rude towards mary, or anyone else he didn't deem worthy/ basically saying budgie was the best of the bunch. it wasn't really said w any malice, just an observation of how they were. Its no wonder they couldnt keep a guitarist.
I feel many don’t know just how good of a guitarist Robert Smith is.
Robert Smith is an inventive and intuitive Guitarist and an innovative composer.
He has written some of the most memorable Guitar Riffs in New Wave/Gothic music!
Finally !!! , someone said it too , It's true , the way he'd play the guitar , he's a really good musician
believe me those who know what they're talking about, know how good Bob is on guitar!
lol he’s pretty good but he was no match for McGeoch, who played this song with a lot more competence and energy. Robert Smith’s songwriting was where all the money magic happened.
@@elrickstero It's always refreshing when someone knows what they're talking about.
Robert's quiet yet incredible stage presence is my favourite thing. He still stands out even as a guitarist. My favourite human 🖤
He sucks
Siouxsie is a true icon. No one has her presence. So many imitators. Only one original.
She is so electrifying on stage...I can't take my eyes off of her!
Siouxsie Sioux is simply mesmerizing!
surf mesa fan? ILY?
Absolutely well said ✌️✌️
When Robert Smith is the second best guitarist that was in the band. You've got a pretty solid fucking band.
I still crush on her like a teenage boy. She was soooo much more interesting than any of her contemporaries, with her mix of brains, good looks, creativity, and wild sense of style...and that band was just killer, so trippy, dark, and edgy.
Patrick Cannady i got a friend she’s look exactly like her. And it those days she made intentionally dress/makeup/hairstyle loke Soiuxie and we were crazy about her. Ah 80’s ...i miss those years...
She is still My Crush ...))))))🥰(((((
Patrick Cannady Likewise!
SUSAN JANET "SIOUXSIE SIOUX" BALLION was a riveting performer! She was
a Mesmerizing Enchantress!
@Withnail Kate Bush was a very beautiful woman back in the '70s.
I only know of her hit single "Wuthering Heights".
I believe Pink Floyd's David Gilmour produced that single!
@Withnail I didn't really get any exposure to her. It took considerable effort to find opportunities to hear anything other than formulaic pop by the likes of MJ, Madonna, etc. where I grew up...it was no backwater, we are talking about a metropolitan area of 3 million people...the market in general lacked interest in punk, post-punk, goth, etc. It was all Madonna, all Michael Jackson, and their legions of imitators, all the time.
Siouxsie s voice is fucking perfect.
And I think I love Robert.
Rose Bud who doesn't
@@geeksinlove225 Four years later and someone else liked your comment. Hope you are still alive. Wink if you are.
Canta muito!
As Robert Smith said: 'The band is called Siouxsie and the Banshees, not Robert and the Banshees.' One of their best guitarists was John Mcgeoch . Still Love Siouxsie Sioux.
I agree John Mcgeoch was their best guitarist, the band is still one of the best.
At their absolute peak in every sense.
Iconic, demonic and supersonic.
Sardonic and somewhat Teutonic, too.
I reckon the Tinderbox period was their peak.
I love how when Robert Smith talked about leaving the banshees People told him he was insane for thinking of leaving a sure thing. He left just as the wheels started spinning in favor of Souxsie & The Banshees, But he proved everyone who ever doubted him wrong with the cure. Great stories in musical history.
THExViCExSHOW Robert Smith actually left because he was suffering from exhaustion due to being in two bands!
He took the Banshees gig to take it easy for a while, not be the front man
@@raulmacias1311 Three bands!
Still wish he had been able to show up in Siouxsie and the Banshees from time to time post-1984.
@@CMZIEBARTH
I read somewhere that Siouxsie was very disappointed when Robert Smith decided to leave the band due to exhaustion. There might have been some friction between them both that, sad to say, was never reconciled.
Robert Smith has always been very loyal to Siouxsie stepping in to help her after the abrupt departure of John McKay in '79 and then again after the dismissal of John McGeoch in '82.
I love how they both first worked together on The Cure's "I'm Cold" where Siouxsie contributed some backing Vocals.
"I'm Cold" is one of my all time favorite Cure tracks! It is very Psychedelic!
England has blessed rock with truly amazing bands. I am in another zone. Hypnotic.
What a performance! They killed it here. They were such a great band.
They are brilliant. I noticed siouxsie really listens to her voice which is why the echos are so powerful. Brilliant timing and punctuation. This song is better live than studio because of their performance skills. If u are better live than studio you have immense tallent. So focused. Love them.
That haunting vocal, like the ghost of a dead bird singing. Beautiful vocally and visually.
you are right.
she looks / acts so sweet and innocent and youthful energy, also mischievous in a good way.
@laser325 what, are you a panelist judge on Ballroom? Snipers gonna snipe.
Robert Smith looks so cool dressed in black and playing a black coloured Vox Phantom Guitar!
I had never seen one until I viewed this clip!
Brian Jones, of The Rolling Stones, popularized the Vox Phantom Guitar back in the 1960s. Brian's was painted white.
I've seen a clip of Siouxsie Sioux playing a Dark Blue Vox Phantom alongside Robert Smith whilst performing "Sin In My Heart" in concert!
That's a Vox Mark III or VI Teardrop (I'm not sure what the difference is) not a Phantom (which is the coffin-shaped body). The one she plays in Sin in My Heart is also either a MkIII or MkVI. If you look at the guitar Ian Curtis is playing in the Love Will Tear Us Apart video, that's a Phantom. Also, Brian Jones played a MkIII Teardrop
I'm so glad these performances were captured, it's so fantastic, My hat's off to Robert Smith fulfilling in, its no easy task to tackle those John McGeoch guitar parts and guitar sound
I love Robert Smith's guitar here! I do miss John. Great band. Brings back such memories!
Siouxsie = perfection. I love this song.
This is a hit. That represents the new wave and post-punk. Only 1 year of life in that time. I'm 41 years old now, and I grew up with this music particularly Punk Rock and Hardcore Punk. I have that feeling. Time passes and the theme is better. Strong times of the Dark wave (Bauhaus), New Wave, Psychobilly, hxc punk and Ska. Greetings from a Punk from the end of the world (Chile).
All the Rockers of the 90s grew up with this music. Siouxsie and Robert Smith (The Cure) are icons in these parts of the world.
Honestly sounds better live than the EP version
Kurt Adams with Smith playing guitar it's just brilliant !
totes
@@LikeHerodParis Dont you mean Steve Severin ?
This version was great, but I personally liked the back and fourth vocals Siouxsie sung during the chorus on the EP version.
My thoughts exactly!
How good is it when you hear a song for the first time and just play it over and over again pure brilliance
This song and the line "we've lost our sorrow" are just incredible. Robert Smith although not a favorite of mine adds a special touch to it with his guitar playing. Its just a great great song live.
Robert Smith ❤
She sounds especially amazing on this my favorite version
Her voice is just unreal
Love this band so much. Mr Smith brought something very special to their sound too.
When this was filmed The Cure just released Let's Go To Bed, within a day or two of this performance.The Banshees visited Robert in the studio while he was recording it and asked him to join.
Matthew Reese Robert had been involved with the banshees way earlier when the cure supported the banshees and the guitarist an drummer walked out. He was involved on and off until 1984
Right.But after the 79 tour John McGeoch joined and during fall of 82 he had a breakdown due to alcohol abuse.Severin and the bands manager Dave Woods went to visit him at the health farm snd instead found him in a nearby pub with some of the institutions residents and he was completely out of his head.They askec Robert to join within a day while he was in the studio.He said he would but this time he wanted to record with them.He was with them until May of 84 when he had to leave due to his own exhaustion and continuing Cure commitments.
He does look tired in this clip. Great recording though!
McGeoch Banshees and Smith Banshees are each great in a different way. And I like a lot of the other stuff too.
Saw them live about 1982 Preston Guild Hall I didn’t actually want too go remember the shiver they sent down my spine. Loved them ever since 👍
Great live version! Very psychedelic and influential!!! And it was 1981, pioneering....
I love the psychedelic vibe of this song
That's pure legendary on that stage ! What a time in music history
The Creatures+The Glove ❤
Fantastic tone from Smith and Severin
#TheGlove
The lush arpeggios and ethereal lyrics showed the Banshees at their very peak....paradoxically this artistic high point saw them lose the services of their finest guitarist Jhn McGeoch, though Smith filled in ably here.
For many the Banshees remained that musical enigma, forever associated with the punk era, who had yet evolved from their post punk period into something altogether unique.....the Gothic moniker was obviously a convenient label, but truly, each album they produced was individual, partly due to the contributions of some the finest modern guitarists...McKay, McGeoch, Smith and Carruthers....oh what a time it was to be young in this remarkable period of music, fashion, youth culture....oh how I pity today's youth!
agree with your statement the greatest band off all time to my ears , and still listen to their music everyday .
Jon Klein actually played quite well too.
Great synopsis. Siouxsie and Co are not easily put into any category.
Back then the older generation brought up on the 1960's and pre Punk 1970's music said exactly the same about this era of music
Watched this live at the time . Absolutely brilliant then and now !
First time hearing this, and so glad it was this performance! Beautiful and spirited 😁
How can anyone not fell transfixed and compelled by Siouxsie? 😍❤
What a GEM! I'm so lucky to find this
If only
We could live it, again
MAGIC
Extraordinary performance. A unique talent that hasn't been surpassed.
Love siusxie and The Cure!
Love Robert Smith❤
Budgie is one of the most under rated drummers from the 80's. I don't know why no one ever name checks him. I would put him right up there with Stewart Copeland.
Yeah totally. Most creative and inventive
Across styles as well vis Slits
Actually, Stewart Copeland named checked him!
who underates him ?
...I'd like to mention also Stephen Morris.....especially with JD and early NO....
Budgie is in my top 3 drummers of all time.
They don't make em like Siouxsie anymore, Owns the stage, commands your attention, total one off, totally mesmerising.
Up your game girls/ladies.
She's such a beautiful animal
Amazing sound. Great sound engineer. Prefer this to the album version. Top of thier game also.
I never knew Robert Smith could play this great on guitar!
Influenced by McGeoch that gave him his definitive sound
This is so artistically juicy. A talent sandwich.
her singing is really strong and in tune here. good performance.
I absolutely love her hair
Epic doesn’t even begin to describe this meisterwerk
Awww look how cute Robert Smith is!
This was first transmitted on the 12th of November, 1982.
I was just thinking that, judging from Siouxsie's look, this had to be right after Smith replaced McGeoch. Quick learner that Bob!
Quel groupe !!!. Magnifique. Quel époque. !!!. Tout ça est bien fini.
it sounds like the tech guy in the back is just trying to figure out what he can do with siouxsie’s mic
Amazing voice of Siouxsie and the complement of Robert Smith in the teardrop guitar is really deep sound. Thxs for upload this excellent song.
I love this song, goddes Siouxsie is amazing
Happy Birthday Robert! 60 Today
I think Robert and steve severin remained friends but pretty sure smith still hasn't been forgiven even now after 30 years by siouxsie for pulling out of that tour...shame because today it would be fascinating to see them play a set together again
@laser325 Lol, very funny, thank you ! ;) (and it's sadly true....)
It got too much for him being in two bands. After all he had to focus on his own band the Cure!
@laser325 although his voice is better than it's ever been so...
@laser325 bob's voice still sounds the same as when he was 21 and belting out a forest
I'm enjoying Robert Smith's guitar playing, somewhat reminiscent of "The Edge's" approach during U2's early years. This earthy, post-punk is both austere yet sophisticated; an avant-gardism forming, spontaneously before your eyes. Siouxsie's presence and evocative vocals are raw and aloof, yet intimate; this band were always at the high-end of the punk movement, perhaps paving the way for bands such as the Cocteau Twins and the Cure. Great stuff! :-)
No cure were independent and decent band 1978-1982
You can hear the Robin Guthrie tones in that guitar. In fact, it probably influenced Paul Wright in Fields of the Nephilim as well, for some of their later work...
@@andrewphippsphillips1455 it’s McGeoch that spark that influence, well and Steve Lillywhite
Hypnotized within the beauty.
Great live version. Love her passion.
Siouxsie ,Robert ,Steve and Budgie,,,, wow,,,fuckin' beautiful in every way !!!!!
that vox is amazing, wish i could find one
Her voice was so strong then .....
What a time in music! Robert would play with Siouxsie and the Banshees, work on the Glove collaboration with Steve Severin and the experimental Cure album that would follow...
i'll kill this song the amount of times i'm listening to it...but it's just so addictive
Bass !!
my daugther is 19 she loves musik from soixsie and cure
The first time I heard Robert Smiths guitar playing on this one I nearly fainted man it was absurd!
Fuck... this live version slays. They once were gods.
.ucking Brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that was powerful, like psychically reached out of the screen. i feel as if she & the band literally cast a spell and throat punched me with darkwave
you're right, that's very true
Nice response! :-)
i love the bassplay
This song always gets me.....
From 1979 to 81 Banshees was gold
I want to live in their Universe
I've watched this 100 times and I'm always astounded.
I'm in love, as are many others.................
that bass is perfect.
I love the Banshees during this period. Although they were fantastic all the time!
QUEEN! ❤
La classe !
Yes, and yes. Great to see right now!
I wish I could've been there
Excellent work by the house engineer. The band sounds great and he hits those vocal echoes perfectly on time. That’s right kids, a middle aged man with a pony tail offstage is doing it. 😺
Im so happy i saw her other day
Abs brilliant never seen this
Well said. John McGeogh is missed but NEVER forgotten
Hermosa siouxie bellísima
Temazo y sonidazo en directo!
I like you robert smith....but i love your guitar😍
AMO ESTE TEMA!!!
Budgie is the man
Amazing footage!
Love seeing a young Robert Smith, knowing all the songs he would write in the future. No one could ever say anything but he is a true musical genius. Not fair how one person can be so damn gifted, and I can’t do anything. Damn
Awesome.
Robert Smith upgraded the sound of Siouxsie and The Banshees. He is one of the best alternative guitarists ever!!!
Don’t talk shit. He’s playing McGeogh’s lines and replicating his effects set up.
@@CONSIDERABLYMORE1 You talk shit because McGeoch wasn't the only banshees guitarist and If you know about guitar, play If you dare all these themes. If you are not a guitarist, just shut up.
@@CONSIDERABLYMORE1 yea, McGeoch did write the guitar parts, but they’re not easy to play accurately, which Robert pulls off. Also, if you listen to the cure’s early work, Robert was the sole guitarist of the band, and there is some great guitar work on their first few albums.
@@Indieguitarist2007 a) i wasn't replying to you b) the clown to whom I was responding implied Smith was "upgrading" the Banshees sound, which is a ridiculous statement. So, run along Smith "fanboy", this aint your argument.