Steve Severin was there at the beginning with Siouxsie, and he's apparently the main former band member who still keeps in contact with her now. And Steve is a real talent in his own right.
7:14 We walked past these two in Islington several times in 82/83 and we'd all nod and smile. I was also a great believer in not following punk trends so I tried to look as different as I could. I always felt that Siouxsie appreciated that in me.
“These two” 😂 I like how you paint them as just mildly interesting locals with appreciative tastes in dress sense and style that you occasionally acknowledged in each other on the street. Legendary influencers and inspirations behind several music genres was and still is their day job just in case you’re interested in listening to their music 😉🙏🏽
Siouxsie as always the cool confident persona, whereas Severin fidgeting around with his fingers under the strain of tension. however to the contrary i love his gentle speech that makes him quite adorable ( Whisperin Severin).
Great document, thanks. I've seen them in concert exactly the year of this interview with Carruthers on guitar, i was a teen ager on his second concert ever in life. I still love the Banshees, especially Budgie's unique drumming style and Mcgeoch incredible work on guitar.
Severin is so chatty on this. Great interview, an interviewer who knew what he was talking about and didnt ask stupid questions, like, most of the others! Shame it cuts at the end though. 👍
I have had the feeling that Severin is a bit of a snob and typical English boy. I once saw an interview with the band and the dude asked what food they all liked. Well Severin said 'I like English food'. Now I really think that English food'hasn't really taken off in the world EVER! Infact it is known to be quite rancid and tasteless. For someone who has travelled the world and seen various cultures wouldn't you think that the answer would be rather different? No he's sticking to his English roots right down to the accent and identity. Now if I were asked..
Judging by the year and the channel (MTV) I’m almost certain that the interviewer is Mark Goodman, one of the original VJ’s of MTV. Goodman knows his stuff and wasn’t afraid to ask interesting questions. There was a famous back and forth between Goodman & David Bowie around this time when Bowie during an interview asked point blank why MTV refused to play black artists. Goodman tried to defend MTV and still acknowledge Bowie’s point. Still wouldn’t happen for a few years, but Yo MTV Raps was the first step in that direction
This interview almost feels like a deposition. Probably an MTV producer giving them a list of questions and then they give their response. It’s a good interview covering a lot of information, but there is no “back and forth” to it at all.
Giving interviews and explaining why they do certain things is boring routine promotion work. They tolerate it out of duty. The Robert Smith retiring quip was sarcastic. They knew he wanted to sing again.
The druggery of explaining music/lyrics & touring is as boring for us, as it is for them, I'd sooner it was a general chit-chat it would be better for all.
Although Budgie was one of the most original drummers of his time and was every important to the band’s sound, it was Siouxsue and Severin who were the pinnacle songwriters. The masterminds together!
@@idontcareaboutyou7757 I think you have just put in in my place. I discounted rhythm as an crucial compositional aspect. I have truly been humbled today. // THANK YOU. All this being said, I invite you to come see my work with color-shape associations and the notes, where I use popular-music and Classical examples to prove that composers choose specific key for specific themes and emotions. I call this my Theory of Pitch Psychology. Either way, thank you again, and God bless! Your, _Acoustic Rabbit Hole_
The two originals, who first started as friends in the fan groupe of the Sex Pistols, branded as the "The Bromley Contingent" and serendipitously performed cold turkey at a punk event as a replacement for a no-show band, along with Sid Vicious on drums and Marco Pirroni on guitar. History was made !
It looks like Siouxsie and Steve didn't want to be there. The interviewer asked great questions without being frivolous. It would be nice to see Siouxsie and Steve lighten up in interviews.
I disagree. I was thinking how banal the interviewer here is, his questions aren't interesting at all - no wonder bands can go nuts being on the road having to face this day after day.
@@mikedtw I think the interviewer was asking legit questions. The band, sometimes, have to come back to earth, and not be so "holier than thou". Sure their tired and maybe worn out from touring, but from what I see from the interview, the interviewer was respectful and nice.
I hate Dear Prudence..It sounds like fake music like she wasn't serious making Dear Prudence and other songs .I feel they Just make bad music just to make money on young fools who would buy it but I do like Spellbound and Cities in Dust ..
@@user-gh8wt2zi2n In terms of popular culture, there's a strong argument to be made that TV shows like 'The Munsters' and 'The Adams Family' were goth. Siouxsie has said that growing up she was a fan of Carolyn Jones. I'd argue that Yvonne de Carlo in 'The Munsters' heavily influenced Siouxise's look. It's not something a punk / post punk band would fess up to, but to me it's so obvious. Bands like The Doors ( their non-bluesy stuff: The End or People are Strange ) should take some credit for Goth music. Jefferson Airplane's White Rabbit was, for me, Goth music.
Severin is so quiet, almost silent. Nothing like your usual band member with their loud mouth, hard drugs taking and throwing tables out of hotel windows. He seems more suited to the life of a professor, specialising in literature, Bukowski oriented. God knows what he's like doing drugs like speed! He would crush his cool demeanor and shatter the ideal 😗 and he's ever so posh🤗
@@DavidDatura you know I have come to realize that the Banshees ARE very posh or trying to be. It irritates the hell out of me. Severin's quiet and English loving demeanor really grates on me. As someone who has traveled the world and experienced differentl cultures and food you would think that he would be somewhat wordly. Not so. He was asked in an interview what food he liked. His response was 'I like English food'!! I could hardly believe my ears. 'English food'? For one thing, there's no such thing and two, if you call meat or should I say mutton pies with mushy peas good food then you must be severely retarded. Just like the girl said before. Autistic or just plain jingoistic
" Robert Smith retired from music full stop" . Bloody hell, no wonder , he was playing in two bands at the same time since 1978. The other band being The Cure !
3 bands actually, he had a side project with Severin called The Glove, and that entire period was insanity, the man had just recorded Pornography, which was emotionally draining for him, then joined The Banshees, and in the same year recorded 3 albums back to back plus singles and b-sides the year before, and toured non-stop. The fact Smith was able to write and record The Head on the Door only a year after all of that is both a miracle and a testament to his dedication to music.
Charles Manson was obsessed by Beatles White Album and he saw in the lyrics of Blackbird and his stoned followers as a call to kill people at night. Strange how she said she was influenced,more influenced by Manson it seems than Beatles and she said they werent necessarily pop.They started Pop.
Madonna's attitude got worse as she got older, her plastic surgery brought her ugliness to skin level. Perhaps pop stars become poisoned by the neediness of the media, always taking from them, giving little in return.
Interesting that even back then, she was abusing her vocal chords. It’s taken it’s toll. She still performs SATB songs live today at 66! Good on her…but her singing voice is completely gone! Just very hoarse now. She apparently didn’t take care of her voice in the intervening years either…very Punk I suppose 🤷♂️
@@kolos2006 yes, I saw a recent live performance of hers online. And it was hard to watch! Apart from the terrible voice, she also looked disheveled and out of it a bit…sad indeed. I was saying to myself “she should really just retire already” 😞
Don't singers take out insurance on their vocal cords, ( I believe they do ), it might be prudent (I love that word, & the song) to have occasional surgery to make medical repairs. Like having a service on your car, except surgery after 'X' number of hours of singing.
British bands, by and large, tend to speak very softly and act very reticent and sheepish when doing interviews like this. More so than a lot of American bands. Just my own stilted observation. Lol
Yes good interviewer. Good questions and I think the Banshees go along with it. I still can't stand Severin. I just don't see how he can be in a RNR band. So quiet and reserved (typical English boy).
High as a kyte , plus Siouxsie Sioux has always had this strong feminine presence . I´m actually quite surprised she´s so " nice " about Robert Smith in this ... maybe cause it is MTV ... around this era , and I´m certain I´m not the only one , I read something in some magazine about her saying that the reason Robert Smith was out was because he was " a lousy lay " - sth to that effect .
@@zaradragonia9863 give me a few hours - got an appointment soon . That The Glove period in particular is well documented when it comes to that kind of thing though . Having Robert in the band with Severin was a major catalyst for all types of debauchery ...
@@zaradragonia9863 Alcohol, Meth ( in various different forms which can be found in the UK - paste, base etc ... ) , I can definitely recall them disclosing they were using Opium and Psychedelics for The Glove´s sessions ... what was there left back then ? Well, Hash was as vulgar as is these days , just cleaner ( imho that is - might well be my " messed up receptors - whatever that means ) . Basically the one drug I can´t recall any of them naming in 83/84 was " blow " . Curious , innit ? Specially when you consider that it would soon after become The Cure´s " Icing Sugar " so to speak .
I love how natural and real they are. There's no bravado or performative confidence.
so, you were under the impression they were artificial cyborgs or something
Weirdly, the thing about this interview that makes me feel suddenly very old, is how calm and gentle and thoughtful it is to listen to.
Yes I've stumbled on Siouxsie Sioux since the early 80s...I'm 54 btw
I was introduced to Suzi age 7 with happy house and loved Killing Jokes living in the eighties. 48 now, but still ok.
Steve Severin was there at the beginning with Siouxsie, and he's apparently the main former band member who still keeps in contact with her now. And Steve is a real talent in his own right.
Yeah they were scenesters starting out
@@jlouis4407and they both dated for a little while in the mid 1970s.
His bass tone is one of my favourites in music.
@@horseytown Melodic, moody and growly.
I have a crush on Siouxsie, gorgeous... and their music is hauntingly beautiful
Siouxsie was the coolest woman in Britain and the face of the 80’s. Not Madonna
Very true
That's laughable
Both❤️💯
INDEED BY FAR!!!🤗🙂
@@Aurora-uq5hm Agreed.
That Dazzle track is master class.
I love how she keeps responding to the interviewer with sarcastic answers. Like these questions are annoying!
Why you guys shoot it in Italy?
Cause we were there lol
Actually, for her this is quite affable.
"Robert Smith has quit music full stop"... and then starts again and make 3 of the greatest albums of all time
De acuerdo totalmente!!!
facts
Theyre are so unassuming and dignified.
7:14 We walked past these two in Islington several times in 82/83 and we'd all nod and smile. I was also a great believer in not following punk trends so I tried to look as different as I could. I always felt that Siouxsie appreciated that in me.
“These two” 😂 I like how you paint them as just mildly interesting locals with appreciative tastes in dress sense and style that you occasionally acknowledged in each other on the street. Legendary influencers and inspirations behind several music genres was and still is their day job just in case you’re interested in listening to their music 😉🙏🏽
Siouxsie as always the cool confident persona, whereas Severin fidgeting around with his fingers under the strain of tension. however to the contrary i love his gentle speech that makes him quite adorable ( Whisperin Severin).
Great document, thanks. I've seen them in concert exactly the year of this interview with Carruthers on guitar, i was a teen ager on his second concert ever in life. I still love the Banshees, especially Budgie's unique drumming style and Mcgeoch incredible work on guitar.
So soft spoken.
LOVE the shoutout to Lou Reed, Iggy Pop, & The Cramps! All my favorite musicians too
She is a Boss!
Siouxsie just exudes natural confidence and cool. I also love her speaking voice almost as much as her iconic singing voice.
Rob Smith didn’t retire, he formed his new band The Cure & is still heavily involved today . Rob Smith is a genius same as Souxise & the Banshees.
I had an A3 poster of Rob Smith and Siouxsie! I saw Siouxsie in the early 90s.. Excellent band!
The cure were already up and running.
I think it was like an A0 poster, 😂
Suburban Relapse and Sin in my Heart are my faves..
The Cure SUCKS the Banshees are awesome
Steven is so gorgeous...and his voice is too
so very down to earth lads/lass. steve biting his fingernail. suzie dropped one of her earring. woops
Thank you,this is a revelation for a super courageous band. Listen to their songs; they are just as relevant TODAY
Wow Severin has his shades off!
Cooler than cool, without trying
Severin is so chatty on this. Great interview, an interviewer who knew what he was talking about and didnt ask stupid questions, like, most of the others! Shame it cuts at the end though. 👍
I have had the feeling that Severin is a bit of a snob and typical English boy. I once saw an interview with the band and the dude asked what food they all liked. Well Severin said 'I like English food'. Now I really think that English food'hasn't really taken off in the world EVER! Infact it is known to be quite rancid and tasteless. For someone who has travelled the world and seen various cultures wouldn't you think that the answer would be rather different? No he's sticking to his English roots right down to the accent and identity. Now if I were asked..
@@zaradragonia9863 it was what people liked at the time. I thought it was a great answer. There's nothing wrong with that...
@@redbeki Oh I'm just fussy about my super stars 😙
Judging by the year and the channel (MTV) I’m almost certain that the interviewer is Mark Goodman, one of the original VJ’s of MTV. Goodman knows his stuff and wasn’t afraid to ask interesting questions.
There was a famous back and forth between Goodman & David Bowie around this time when Bowie during an interview asked point blank why MTV refused to play black artists. Goodman tried to defend MTV and still acknowledge Bowie’s point.
Still wouldn’t happen for a few years, but Yo MTV Raps was the first step in that direction
"There's a pretty side to the Banshees" hahah love them lol
In those days you had to be really lucky to catch these interviews. I followed them since the seventies and I never saw an interview with them ever
6:47 God she's so cute when she shakes her head when she hears she was way ahead of her time fashion wise! AAHH Love it!
Only time I've ever heard Siouxsie called "cute".😅
noticed that too. so sweet.
This interview almost feels like a deposition. Probably an MTV producer giving them a list of questions and then they give their response. It’s a good interview covering a lot of information, but there is no “back and forth” to it at all.
Good observation. The interviewer was probably clueless about SATB, so there couldn’t be any back and forth.
Giving interviews and explaining why they do certain things is boring routine promotion work. They tolerate it out of duty. The Robert Smith retiring quip was sarcastic. They knew he wanted to sing again.
The druggery of explaining music/lyrics & touring is as boring for us, as it is for them, I'd sooner it was a general chit-chat it would be better for all.
MTV interviews them but hardly ever played their stuff,, same as Bauhaus
Although Budgie was one of the most original drummers of his time and was every important to the band’s sound, it was Siouxsue and Severin who were the pinnacle songwriters. The masterminds together!
true, main reason of the originality of them unique sound is that the basic part of the band in music writing was the rythmic section.
@@idontcareaboutyou7757 I think you have just put in in my place. I discounted rhythm as an crucial compositional aspect. I have truly been humbled today. // THANK YOU.
All this being said, I invite you to come see my work with color-shape associations and the notes, where I use popular-music and Classical examples to prove that composers choose specific key for specific themes and emotions. I call this my Theory of Pitch Psychology.
Either way, thank you again, and God bless!
Your, _Acoustic Rabbit Hole_
I fockin LOVE that shirt
I second that, I was hypnotised by her shirt & her eye make-up, I'm also bewitched by her voice tone.
I wish these two had carried on with Siouxsie and the Banshees.
The two originals, who first started as friends in the fan groupe of the Sex Pistols, branded as the "The Bromley Contingent" and serendipitously performed cold turkey at a punk event as a replacement for a no-show band, along with Sid Vicious on drums and Marco Pirroni on guitar. History was made !
Absolute legends!
It looks like Siouxsie and Steve didn't want to be there. The interviewer asked great questions without being frivolous. It would be nice to see Siouxsie and Steve lighten up in interviews.
Ha they always look like that! Don't they?:)
Yea sometimes they would present the same energy they were against
I disagree. I was thinking how banal the interviewer here is, his questions aren't interesting at all - no wonder bands can go nuts being on the road having to face this day after day.
@@mikedtw I think the interviewer was asking legit questions. The band, sometimes, have to come back to earth, and not be so "holier than thou". Sure their tired and maybe worn out from touring, but from what I see from the interview, the interviewer was respectful and nice.
he didn’t pick up on any of their jokes and his questions were generic as hell lmao
I love this! Thanks! And I agree with Siouxsie and Steven about Dear Prudence. The Beatles version sounds completely half done and unfinished.
It's pretty. I've never seen Severin in interview, like this. Definately on a good day, I think!
I hate Dear Prudence..It sounds like fake music like she wasn't serious making Dear Prudence and other songs .I feel they Just make bad music just to make money on young fools who would buy it but I do like Spellbound and Cities in Dust ..
1st time I hear a big band promoting the Great Clock DVA on a big TV Channel . Respect , Severin !
Siouxsie's very individual look was one of the most copied looks ever.
It defined the “goth look” 10-20 years later. No Soiuxsie? No Goth. And with no Steve Severin? no Banshees. Simples.
Her eyes were influenced by Japanese theatre but yes very unique and copied.
@@ECNIV2000 Goths have been around since the 80's.
@Eidelmania actually late 70s
@@user-gh8wt2zi2n In terms of popular culture, there's a strong argument to be made that TV shows like 'The Munsters' and 'The Adams Family' were goth. Siouxsie has said that growing up she was a fan of Carolyn Jones. I'd argue that Yvonne de Carlo in 'The Munsters' heavily influenced Siouxise's look. It's not something a punk / post punk band would fess up to, but to me it's so obvious.
Bands like The Doors ( their non-bluesy stuff: The End or People are Strange ) should take some credit for Goth music. Jefferson Airplane's White Rabbit was, for me, Goth music.
One of the best 80s bands, top 5, shame they only really had one hit in America.
Which one?
@@2koP7 The only song we ever really heard on the radio from the Banshees was Kiss Them For Me in 1991
She looks so glum to be ther. Miss them
Alot
She looks mildly pissed off, they both do.
THE CRAMPS shout out 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Severin is so quiet, almost silent. Nothing like your usual band member with their loud mouth, hard drugs taking and throwing tables out of hotel windows. He seems more suited to the life of a professor, specialising in literature, Bukowski oriented. God knows what he's like doing drugs like speed! He would crush his cool demeanor and shatter the ideal 😗 and he's ever so posh🤗
Gotta keep the train rollin
there are thousands of artists that are introverts.
Yes, I was surprised how posh he sounded.
He seems autistic to me, his eye contact and introversion are new level, I love it..
@@DavidDatura you know I have come to realize that the Banshees ARE very posh or trying to be.
It irritates the hell out of me.
Severin's quiet and English loving demeanor really grates on me.
As someone who has traveled the world and experienced differentl cultures and food you would think that he would be somewhat wordly.
Not so.
He was asked in an interview what food he liked.
His response was 'I like English food'!!
I could hardly believe my ears. 'English food'?
For one thing, there's no such thing and two,
if you call meat or should I say mutton pies with mushy peas good food then you must be severely retarded. Just like the girl said before. Autistic or just plain jingoistic
Siouxsie she's the biggest idol of Gen X in my opinion.
I LOVE HERE BRASIL COOL 🇧🇷😎👌
27 years old.. my age! :)
" Robert Smith retired from music full stop" . Bloody hell, no wonder , he was playing in two bands at the same time since 1978. The other band being The Cure !
3 bands actually, he had a side project with Severin called The Glove, and that entire period was insanity, the man had just recorded Pornography, which was emotionally draining for him, then joined The Banshees, and in the same year recorded 3 albums back to back plus singles and b-sides the year before, and toured non-stop.
The fact Smith was able to write and record The Head on the Door only a year after all of that is both a miracle and a testament to his dedication to music.
them taking the Rapture album off of Spotify is the bane of my existence.
Charles Manson was obsessed by Beatles White Album and he saw in the lyrics of Blackbird and his stoned followers as a call to kill people at night. Strange how she said she was influenced,more influenced by Manson it seems than Beatles and she said they werent necessarily pop.They started Pop.
Pretty
"That's why we're in a group, is cause we don't like routine"
I focused on that statement as well. I was intrigued by the fact Venice is sinking, & they wouldn't allow heavy tour trucks.
Steven ❤
Haha. To call Robert Smith JUST a guitarist. Wow. Love this woman. She’s wrong but I love her ao
First I've heard of the connection bewteen The Banshees and Clock DVA.
Love Susie A Alternative English 🌹 Rose
The Cramps! Iggy Pop!
💓❤️💓❤️🌹🌹🌹🌹😘
I am an American and I never did like Madonna. I like this lady here. I think she's pretty and I love her music. ❤
Madonna's attitude got worse as she got older, her plastic surgery brought her ugliness to skin level. Perhaps pop stars become poisoned by the neediness of the media, always taking from them, giving little in return.
I went to see them at the Ritz, @ this time. Then the fire Marshall came in at 1 am & shut it down.The place got too crowded, uggh !
robert has retired ,maybe they didnt get the memo ,two fantastic bands
Dazzle was their best song ever and on Hyena
Started listening to S.B. then herd Robert Smith was a mate.
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This guy sounds just like Richard D James.
Is that relevant?
@@HookBeak_66 Nobody cares
@@kelpkelp5252 Enough. Or its fake concern which is worse.
@@HookBeak_66 Is everything ok with you?
@@kelpkelp5252 As the Aussies say " no worries mate "
I was in my momma's belly.
I was 15 but we didn't have cable, so I missed this back then.. bummer
Not the Generation then
@@layditms2thanks for ledden me no
I was 5
Interesting that even back then, she was abusing her vocal chords. It’s taken it’s toll. She still performs SATB songs live today at 66! Good on her…but her singing voice is completely gone! Just very hoarse now. She apparently didn’t take care of her voice in the intervening years either…very Punk I suppose 🤷♂️
And also very sad...
@@kolos2006 yes, I saw a recent live performance of hers online. And it was hard to watch! Apart from the terrible voice, she also looked disheveled and out of it a bit…sad indeed. I was saying to myself “she should really just retire already” 😞
I was at the last Troxy gig, voice on top form as the conditions were right for her. Incredible gig !!
@@pauladewhurst4003 glad to hear 👍
Don't singers take out insurance on their vocal cords, ( I believe they do ), it might be prudent (I love that word, & the song) to have occasional surgery to make medical repairs. Like having a service on your car, except surgery after 'X' number of hours of singing.
She had bigger arms than Steven...
I think Siouxsie in her prime could've beaten up a lot of men. LOL
@@aname7601 fit, sporty girls turn me on.
@@julianhermanubis6800 I actually wanted to type the same!! 😆
British bands, by and large, tend to speak very softly and act very reticent and sheepish when doing interviews like this. More so than a lot of American bands. Just my own stilted observation. Lol
terrib!
Yes good interviewer. Good questions and I think the Banshees go along with it. I still can't stand Severin. I just don't see how he can be in a RNR band. So quiet and reserved (typical English boy).
High as a kyte , plus Siouxsie Sioux has always had this strong feminine presence . I´m actually quite surprised she´s so " nice " about Robert Smith in this ... maybe cause it is MTV ... around this era , and I´m certain I´m not the only one , I read something in some magazine about her saying that the reason Robert Smith was out was because he was " a lousy lay " - sth to that effect .
@@saraivatoledo1842 high? Really? I've always wondered if and when they took drugs. What do you know darling? Spill
@@zaradragonia9863 give me a few hours - got an appointment soon . That The Glove period in particular is well documented when it comes to that kind of thing though .
Having Robert in the band with Severin was a major catalyst for all types of debauchery ...
@@zaradragonia9863 Alcohol, Meth ( in various different forms which can be found in the UK - paste, base etc ... ) , I can definitely recall them disclosing they were using Opium and Psychedelics for The Glove´s sessions ... what was there left back then ? Well, Hash was as vulgar as is these days , just cleaner ( imho that is - might well be my " messed up receptors - whatever that means ) .
Basically the one drug I can´t recall any of them naming in 83/84 was " blow " . Curious , innit ?
Specially when you consider that it would soon after become The Cure´s " Icing Sugar " so to speak .
@@zaradragonia9863 I can't remember where I saw or read it, but "Cocoon" from the album 'A Kiss in the Dreamhouse' was written after taking LSD