WOW! This Fuel Filter Sucks!
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
- Not all fuel filters are the same! I cut open a couple fuel filters to show the difference between a good one and a bad one. This makes a huge difference on your equipment over the long run. Protect the carburetor.
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I may start to use this clear paper element filter on some gravity feed riders. It will definitely keep more trash out of carb.
Like I said Ive never tried this in fear of it may work now at the moment, but what about a week from now for some reason it just stops flowing fuel. Ive seen the 394358 fuel filter do this. Sometimes it will gravity feed, Sometimes it wont.
I also use the red because did not think would work on gravity feed, thanks for update clip!
I tried the better filter on my gravity feed 14 hp lawn tractor but it kept stalling out. Had to go back to the cheap screen type.
I run the paper style on my 250 cc vintage motorcycle with a rusty gas tank, works perfectly and you can see the fine rust chunks accumulate.
Im using the paper one. If you said I needed to go to the moon and back and that would fix it I would give it hell to try and get there! Ha ha ha lol you are excellent at fixing things and I appreciate it is what I'm saying thank you so much.
On the instructions that I got with my lawn tractor, I was advised that the (crappy) fuel filter was meant on machines that had no fuel pump, and the (good) filter was to be used with fuel pumps. I put the good one on anyway (I have no fuel pump) and have never had a problem with it.
Exactly! Me too....
I used one of those on an old gravely and when hot it wouldn't let fuel flow for some reason so I have to use these "crappy" filters.
@@evsnova74 What I have on all my gravity fed machines are the WHITE flat filters. They are 75 micron. I've never seen anything with the red 150 micron filter on it. While you can sometimes get away with one of the bullet-style paper filters on a gravity fed system, they are really designed for engines with a fuel pump. Use the white 75 micron flat filters on gravity fed systems and you'll not have any problems.
Yea that's a crock of shit it's good you ran the better filter 👍
Wonder why some gravity-fed's have only a permanent mesh screen in the tank, like many in Honda's GCV line & Briggs Professional Series OHV (mine is 2011). Moreover, these are not manufactured with an in-line filter at all. I'm not sure if Briggs Quantum L-heads have a tank screen but the Quantum engine on several Toro's I have seen do not have an in-line filter. Yet the Briggs Intek on my gravity fed MTD tractor does seem to rely on an in-line filter but no sort of mesh in the tank (the type of tank that is strapped behind the engine with a big zip tie) that I can see. Hmmm.
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We always run these "strainers" in line before the "filter" to strain out larger debris.. However, not as a stand alone in a fuel system.. Thanks Steve 👍👊
Great idea....
Imma do that from now on
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Thanks Buddy....
I remember the first time I looked through one of those and thought, there's no filter in there, only to see the crappy screen with a magnifying glass. Great tip Steve!
I know, right?
I listened to your advice and put the real fuel filter in my lawn mower and snowblower, now I feel safe. Thank you Steve.
Excellent!
On my Tractors, I use the "SUMMIT" Style that you can replace/clean the Filter Screen. ~$12.00 for Set, ~$7.00 for a 3 pack of Filters @ Auto Zone...
Plus, they are clear so that you can check for fuel flow!
Thanks Steve!
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I put the good filter on my generator a while back. I agree with your point, however, the good filter would not provide enough flow for my gravity fed generator. Had to go back to the screen.
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You're right Steve O. I use those see thru ones on my lawn equipment and farm tractors
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Thanks Steve. I have one of those on my garden tractor. I'll be changing it this weekend.
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Great video!!! Thanks for the filter autopsy. Bam! You and Taryl are the best! Donyboy is good too! Great info!!!
Thanx for this info Steve. I have not had too much trouble useing them but I was unaware that it’s just a screen. I will be replacing them all with actual fuel filters.
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I have had some of those good filters that would starve a gravity fed machine. Worked fine on a fuel pump one. Might want to mention that if you've ever seen it. Great video!
Happened to me too. I have a thread on it on mtf
I've never seen anything with the red 150 micron filter. All my gravity-fed stuff uses the WHITE 75 micron filters.
I don't know why were that bothered. I've got stationary engines that are 115 years old an never had a filter, my lister is 75 years old, has a carb with a jet, a float bowl and butterfly. Same as your modern engine. No filter and it's never blocked. I put a paper one on my Hyundai generator and it failed to run. Gravity feed isn't enough, had to put a mesh one back on. Nearly didn't bother, but my pipe was already cut!
If those better paper filters get any moisture on them , it just kills the flow.
Sometimes it's hard to see , and being cheap enough just swap it out.
Try and drain it and see if anything nasty comes out.
@@michaelbamber4887 115 year old carbs are not "the same as your modern engine". Modern carbs have tiny passages that don't take much debris to plug them solid. Ancient carbs have gapping offices. If you have cleaned modern carbs, you would know what I am getting at. Unless you enjoy cleaning carbs regularly and having poorly running engines, you do need fuel filters.
Steve, I never thought of that, that way! Brilliant!
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Love the honesty and the simplicity
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awesome video, I bought a replacement carb for my snow tek snowblower and it came with that red fuel filter and I was skeptical, glad I found your video and thanks to you I just used your link to buy a good fuel filter and a new subscriber
Glad it helped
Great video as always Steve.
Always helpful info and entertaining.
Please keep the videos coming buddy
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I saw those red filters being sold at Walmart under the Briggs and Stratton name for almost $5 each.
Awesome beer Steve used to be my brand when I was still drinking.Had to stop due to health.Awesome to know about this filter, going to change mine out for sure.
Sound advice (as always). Thank you Steve and stay safe.
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Your right Steve. I wound up with some so I use these as a pre filters.
Good idea....
Like the screen found in the old 70's Japanese motorcycle 3way fuel petcock. Most in the know added an aftermarket, high flow paper core filter after the petcock. Thanks for sharing .Well ... Time to tip back an original Corona...you know the one.. the one that does no harm. Best to you and yours.
I prefer this style of filter, but they sometimes are too big to fit so that they will gravity feed.
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those proper ones are all i use. i definitely need to install more since i have some new equipment added to the ever growing collection.
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Fabulous information for us DIY guys. Thanks for sharing.
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Thank you Steve, this filter was causing problems for my Toro snowblower
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Great advice Steve.
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Love the videos Stevie
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Good video as always!!!
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Thanks for sharing.
Once again, thank you Steve.
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Great video Steve
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I don’t even have gas powered gizmos & I enjoyed this. Your vid on how to string a weedeater was brilliant!
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Great advice, thanks again Steve.
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Great vid as always thanks for saving time and money you are the man!!!!
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great advice Steve, but I must admit, I spent most of the time looking at the can of Lucky!
I’ve had several of those red filters spilt open on their own before. No need to cut them open. For that reason alone I stopped using them. The other one you showed is a good filter. I like how it can be used for both 1/4 and 5/16 fuel lines. It is my go to filter for most small engines. 👍
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That's some good advice 😉 those little check valves, and that's pretty much all they are, aren't a proper gas filter at all and I'm getting rid of the ones on my mowers for the kind he showed ASAP
Some people don’t pay attention to fuel filters glad you’re sharing it and wow what a difference. So many folks don’t understand that petroleum products come a long ways before they get to the gas pump when we get our fuel. Or even a can it is just magically get there it’s got a lot of containers to transport from and there’s not many filters between the final product and our small engines.
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Thank you for great advice, while it is probably true that these screens are meant for use on the gravity fed systems, I've got a Toro push mower that I used a fuel filter on and have had no issues since installed. True to say that not all of us take as good a care of our fuel systems as we should, also have added a filter to a Cub Cadet tiller with no issues, both of the engines are Kohlers.
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Wow thanks I have them on a few motors.
Briggs had them made by Briggs.
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Steve always gives out good tips ,hope your tips works with horse racing cheers
I appreciate the heads up.
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Thanks buddy. I will get rid of my now.👍👍👍👍👍
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Many Honda Trail 90s had a similar screen filter in the carburetor and no other in the tank or the lines. Guess what, after rebuilding the carburetor you can leave that one in the carburetor and put two of these better filters in line. One on the run position fuel line and another on the reserve position fuel line, maybe never having problems with that carburetor again.
Staggering them works best.
Good stuff.
I will replace the junk filter with the good one. Thanks for sharing!
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Thanks for the info.
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correct i had one of these for small size and it let some whatever it was shut down my mower... thank you i got one of these on my tiller i will change it out now... and my mower never had a fuel filter at all from sears ??? and it plugged up so i installed that crap and it plugged up so i will change it now thank you...
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Steve very good advice . I have Lawnboy and it runs good but sum times wen I shout it off to empty the bag it won’t start what could cause this the plug is good ?
wow i had the junk one on my mower changing it tomorrow thank you Steve
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I'll drink to that🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻👍. Another quick and easy one. Thanks buddy!!!🍻
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Amazon purchaser feedback ,many people no not like the filter. Thank you, Steve.
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Thanks for this 1 Steve ,I bought a bag of the red one's for like 8 bucks will order the better today, Well worth the money.
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I have both on my machine. I use the crappy one as a prefilter straight off the tank. It then goes to a better paper filter. The fuel pump on my machine then revives the fuel that gets sent into another filter before the carburator. Redundant you may say but works for me.
I have a couple small engines that use screens like that for their fuel filters inside the carburetors. They’re designed that way.
ya I just fixed a mower with one of these on it. the jet was clogged with something and I was like wow it had to be these 'filters'
Thanks Steve, wish I knew this about filter a day ago. Ran rototiller out of gas and now isn’t running well. I did buy a filter today like you suggested. Hopefully I can find out what happened, more than likely jet has debris in it. Why do they put this junk on engines?
Man that screen looks like it belongs in your window not a fuel filter thanks again Steve take care
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Good one Steve ...how about two cycle fuel filters? Comparing aftermarket to OEM has been done by others ...but do you have opinions on this? Thanks for all the great work.
Hey Steve! I remember my Dad getting too drunk to get up from the chair to the fridge and he would send me running to get him another Lucky at about age 4.I would open it for him and guzzle as much as I could before giving it to him. Either that or I would shake it vigorously and let him open it.I learned a lot of unusual English language when he got sprayed with beer. Great tip on the filter! CHEERS from Sooke City
Beer hunter Eh, what a hoser ! I would have drank them all
I didn’t know lucky lager was being made again. Is any good? Good info on your video.
Hey Steve, How is the best way to free a seized up motor on an echo string trimmer.
The paper elements are not meant for gravity-fed machines. On some machines the paper elements will allow them to starve for fuel
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the thing with paper is they will pass gas ( the liquid kind) lol but the paper swells up and the pores plug off with moisture/water. big problem if you run ethanol mix fuel. also those screens have different mesh sizes and unless you get a good oem you'll get oversized junk from china.
I “just” put one of those lil red filters on a snowblower line. There was No filter at all - before I put at least this cheapy on.
But - I’ll go order a “good” one….because YOU Said So 👍🏻
How do the filters your recommending compare to the ones that drop inside the fuel tank?
rockin' the mullet Stevie!...
Damn C19! Gonna have to cut it myself...
@@StevesSmallEngineSaloondo they still sell flow-bees? that vacuum cleaner/mini mower thing they used to sell on tv... what could possibly go wrong!?
Hi Steve. The space between gas valve and carburetor on my Duromax xp4400e is crazy small. No way can I fit a decent fuel filter in between. Was thinking about the junk filter you reviewed before watching. Any suggestions on tiny but effective fuel filter? Thanks. I’m a big fan.
It's just a screen I get it. I need one to get the big stuff like grass and leaves from getting into the carb. It works for me.
The red filter is for units with no fuel pump! If you use a filter on some units with out a pump they will not get enough fuel and run to lean! I've been a small engine tech for over 20 years and learned this the hard way! Great video tho Steve gets everyone talking and sharing!!!! God bless everyone and have a great week!!!!
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I seem to have problems with the paper filters on my craftsman riding mower, they always run dry. Switched to the white 75 microns and got a better result but still eventually ran dry. I think the main issue is craftsman puts the bottom on the gas tank at the same level as the carburetor and do not have fuel pumps. Which just makes it run dry unless you have nearly zero flow restrictions. Im still have trouble with my mower because of poor fuel rate and filter filling with air even after installing new fuel lines and clamps.
Hey Steve! On those newer Briggs lawnmowers, the tank outlet is nearly directly coupled with those crappy new plastic carburetors. There is _very_ little space between them and I think no chance you'll get a filter installed in there. The problem is compounded by the fact those plastic jets get clogged by even the tiniest particles. Is there like a tank neck filter I could install on it like on some generators?
My lawnmower and snowblower don't have a filter that I can see. Should I splice one into the fuel line?
I feel the same way about those red filters. I order ones like you show there that have the metal cone instead of the paper but same kind of filtration. I also prefer the clear filter to be able to see if there is fuel in the line. A great troubleshooting tool. Engine dies and you look at the filter and it's empty you know it's out of gas. 😉
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I find the good paper style filters don’t work well with gravity fed carbs. Especially ones with very little drop from the tank to the carb (like a pushmower). They just have too much restriction and seem to starve the system at times. It seems to take too long for the fuel to flow thru the paper.
The screen style has very little resistance and is better than nothing in most cases. The paper style which much prefer work super well on systems with a fuel pump. Excellent video as always.
The paper element is meant 4 systems w/ a fuel pump. Not good 4 gravity, he neglected 2 mention that
how about gravity feed which has a 5 gallon tank or more spaced 2 feet above the carb? I cant restrict the gas ENOUGH
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Do you think that changing from the crap filter to a good paper filter will work okay for 2 strike? My old toro ccr2000 snowthrower has the crap fuel filter but being 2 stroke I'm not sure how that may if at all affect the oil mixture with the gas when it runs through the filter media.
Sometimes you just dont have enough space to put in anything else, at least you have something to stop bigger bits of whatever might fall in your tank.
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I know how you feel. I have a couple of them 2200 w suitcase generators They didn’t have filters I crammed in a paper fuel filter and realized something was up on my first tank of gas. at about a 1/4 tank of fuel under 30% load The generator would start spitting in sputtering and shut off. I switched to a Cleanable Shorty glass fine mesh fuel filter and problem solved. I agree the paper filter filters better but sometimes you gotta use what works And something is better than nothing.
The red ones are 150 micron. Briggs also sells one that is white that's 75 microns.
They also sell the paper versions as well. It's a bit confusing sometimes as they highlight both the red or white mesh mushroom filters and the paper versions on their parts diagrams. If I was them I would only opt the paper one.
For the price of a decent fuel filter it really is a no brainer.
Any problems with the carb on a working saw is more than likely down to foreign objects getting throw the filter.
Keep the tips coming as they save us amateurs and semi professionals a trip to the service/repair guys.
I had one of these filters I just pulled off my Honda mower after about 6-7 years. I popped it apart with some Channelocks. I know my fuel tank had a bunch of crud in it, so I figured the filter would be loaded. Ha! Turns out, the metal mesh was completely clean! I just ordered the recommended filters.
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So Tru Steve!! Great video as always. We use Rotary #10352 on most equipment we service and never have any problems. Thanks STEVE !!!
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We use those same clear filters in my shop. We usually do what you suggested - replacing the red filters with the clear. I can say, though, that that does not ALWAYS work. We have done that in the past on tune-ups and the engine would run like shit. Tried cleaning the carburetor and everything else. Nothing worked. Finally, we took the clear filter off and put the red one it called for back on. Engine ran perfectly. Apparently, in some cases, the clear filters do noty let enough fuel flow. They need the less restriction of the red ones. So... tldr; In most cases, yes.. you are correct. In some fringe outliers, though... you may HAVE to stick with the red filters.
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Would it be beneficial to use both? I could see leaving the red screen to catch large grass particles etc. and cut the hose to install a fiber paper one. The screen pre-filter should help the paper filter to last longer.
I cant see why not!
How do you install the new fuel filter?
Good evening Sir, yes in deed these are bad filter for sure !!!🤔😤😉 Thank you Sir and Keep up the good job Cheers !!👍🌞
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Any idea on why the new toro lawnmower with black deck have chugging and sputtering issues?