Only just watched this episode and was going to say this myself in comments. Casting would have been the traditional way for bronze unlike connan films making cast iron swords lol. Happy days all
Absolutely! That's the classical way of doing bronze swords, as I understand it. Maybe Alec should get in touch with Skallagrim? Skal has a great appreciation for bronze weapons :)
Really cool Alec to see you forge out that piece of Aluminum bronze. It looks really fun to work. I think it will actually be pretty strong after its heat treated. Jason
medieval daggers ranged from 23-38cm long on average (9-15 inchs) seems of suitable length,. maybe a little long but not outrageous Edit: just looking at it again it is most definitely longer than that hahaha ignore me
@@keeegz95 as always ppl back then where WAY less precise with descriptions etc then we are nowadays in terms of 'bla bla bla size is a dagger anything above that is a short sword' it realy didnt matter to them aslong as it was sharp and you can poke things with it. but nowadays its important to categorise ancient relics as precise as possible so you can compare them to finds of different places etc
The xiphos is actually a short sword used in ancient greece maybe just maybe he called it a dagger cuz it may confuse other people because of its size.
What I truly enjoy about Alec and Will is their age and attitude on life. No obstacles and no fear of trying new things. Keep forging ahead by friends!
really nice to see you return to something basic and have you talk to the cameras about the details, heating, forging and the minutiae of the task at hand. great vid!
That is why I love UA-cam you see a lot of things that are done not just because they are useful or profitable but because they are cool and that allows creativity to flourish
i love that you can actually hear the power hammers in this and its not drowned out by music for once. hearing that anyang (idk i i spelled that right and i dont wanna google it) breathe is just incredible. the tools are just as alive as the people using them!
With the attention for detail this channel loves. I'd like to see them do an ornate articulate set of plate mail. Gold and jeweled inlay, with a matching dress sword. Tell me that would be amazing!!!
Every time I see Alec work on pieces like this an the effort and craftsmanship that goes into this, it makes me wonder about the ancients craftsmen that didn’t have access to power tools and modern forges and how long it would of taken to produce a sword like this.
I think this is the first time I've seen Alec Forging anything on his own in a while and I like it everything he makes turns to Gold it seems like to me that is. Either way it's away's awesome watching him forge
Seeing over 100k views and only 7k likes tells me soo many people are forgetting to appreciate your work but loving it enough to check it out all the time Love your stuff don’t ever stop 👍
I love how Will and Alec show flubs and failures. It shows that they are still learning even after becoming professionals. Kudos to you young men! Keep up the good work!
Alec, you should try 10% aluminum bronze. You can make wicked cool knives out of it because you can oil quench it to make it very hard. The aluminum acts like the carbon in steel, and precipitates out of the bronze when you quench it. You can actually see it happen because the bronze becomes more silvery and less of the bronze color.
Quench at very dull orange, about 1400-1500 degrees. Oh also, when your bronze overheats, you can somewhat correct the grain structure by hammering it at lower heats as long as it didn’t fall apart on the overheat.
Awesome little project. Great to see more Whack Whack. Forging that bronze looks like fun. Although I missed Will's punny banter, it was a good video. Have a beautiful day guys.
Wow, that sounds like a whole load of work! And if you're making something Bronze age, then wouldn't forging bronze be historically wrong anyway, when they just cast everything they needed?
A leaf shaped blade has always been one of my favorites to swing. The slimmer taper near the hilt leaves to the mass balanced closer to the point and swings with a pull through similar to a machete. On a smaller more mobile double edged blade like a xiphos the combination of power and maneuverability in your striking really adds up.
Not sure the stories of the flags on your workshop walls, but as a Wyoming native, my state’s flag on your wall with a light on it caught my eye! Love watching your videos and your positive can-do attitude!
Hey Alec! I'm a very big fan of your work and I enjoy every single episode of you making stuff and I was wandering if you could please make a Chinese Guan Dao polearm. It would be just awesome seeing you and Will work on one of those! Much love from Romania! 🇷🇴
Thanks for such amazing video! Few videos ago I suggested an idea to forge a dagger and my dream comes true. It's pleasure to see such beatiful piece of work, even not (yet) finished. Hope it may be a good addition to your live workshop exhibition of cold weapons and also level up your experience in forging bronze to next level
In Greek Xiphos is writed ξίφος ," the starting "ξ" sound more like "ks" in English and not with X which in English sounds more like "Z" in most words with a starting X .So Xiphos sound more like Ksiphos when you try to pronounce in English.I know it seems weird but since the word is straight up conversion of the letters(and not a very thoughtful one) of a Greek word I thought it would be better to know the actual pronunciation of the word.
Sounds like that was oil impregnated bronze. Its got large grains with voids in between them to hold oil. Course the oil would have burned off in the first heat. I'm shocked you were able to forge that at all.
I tried to make a little Xyphos style dagger like that out of 1084. Much tougher than it first appears, I was not successful! Fun build, excited to see the end result!
Thank you Alec for getting back to talking and teaching... Not just showing off, Not that you don't deserve to show off a bit.. ! Good work thank you again.
Audible IS a great sponsor for older guys like me who can listen with hearing aids 'forever' but whose eyes get tired much too soon. Hearing those voices is a lot like having an intelligent companion nearby. MEANWHILE, THE GREEK BRONZE SHORT SWORD is very interesting: how will THAT work on your 'Patented' fruit compote slashing test?
Watching you hand forge and explain each step is what made this channel great. Since your move it’s been a bit more fluff. Good to see you return to your roots.
I just recently found your channel, but I have to say, it’s amazing! Now for the suggestions: there’s an Indian dagger called a haladie, which is essentially a two-sided curved dagger. I think that forging it would create a unique challenge. Maybe something to think about.
Like a kinda ring with different themes or something, Patrick said he was down in a Livestream, and said to comment on your videos, you have a lot of the same viewers so that would be amazing
Alec I believe that bronze is actually ampco bronze. If so it's actually a lot like machining aluminum because it's got aluminum in it. Very easy and nice to machine we use it quite a bit at work. Tip when using it. Whatever you would normally cut aluminum with use it for this material itll work just as well.
Alec, great to see you blossom in Mantana USA, but don't forget us guys in the UK who support your channel, so while you need to quote Fahrenheit, we need Celsius, PLEASE! 😁. Interesting project, can't wait to see the finished dagger. Hope I haven't offended you. Hugo Dale, N. Ireland.
I guess you've never seen someone forge bronze or heard that it crumbles if you get it too hot... Brass is the same, but actually a lot worse. It is not burnt, or really even damaged, it was just very close to melting... and then you hit it with a hammer or squeezed it in a vise...
If you can find some soap stone you can make a mold and pour a Bronze sword. Your carving skills are outstanding. I would love to see that.
Agreed, then you can cold forge the edges for strength
Only just watched this episode and was going to say this myself in comments. Casting would have been the traditional way for bronze unlike connan films making cast iron swords lol. Happy days all
@@infamousjustice7083 Agree
Its also a lot more viable in terms of profit, 1 mold can cast hundreds of swords that could be sold. and it cuts down the manual labour.
Absolutely! That's the classical way of doing bronze swords, as I understand it. Maybe Alec should get in touch with Skallagrim? Skal has a great appreciation for bronze weapons :)
Any material: exists
Alec: OMG, it's just like butter
John Miller you needed the : exists but still pretty cool
I can’t believe it’s not butter
Levi Dyer u mean u can’t believe it’s no butter ,,,spray lol
That's cause he buys the expensive stuff hahah
John Miller correction: *buhttah
Really cool Alec to see you forge out that piece of Aluminum bronze. It looks really fun to work. I think it will actually be pretty strong after its heat treated. Jason
Alec: "Is this your first time forging bronze?"
Will: "Successfully, yes."
Alec: ... _please don't break my dagger_
5:10
I wanna hear the story of Will's unsuccessful attempts
You should name Will’s power hammer Lil’ SeBASHtian
Agent Stache I both support and appreciate you.
Yyeeesss. He definitely needs to do that
Or similarly, Bashful - kind of ironic, like a large man named Tiny.
Anyone else reading that in Sean Connerys voice?
@TheOne WhoWelds SPIDERBAIT makes the best Black Betty.
Alec: I'm making a bronze dagger!
Also Alec: makes big stabby boi
Ori that is a T H I C C dagger.
Absolute U N I T
medieval daggers ranged from 23-38cm long on average (9-15 inchs) seems of suitable length,. maybe a little long but not outrageous
Edit: just looking at it again it is most definitely longer than that hahaha ignore me
@@keeegz95 as always ppl back then where WAY less precise with descriptions etc then we are nowadays in terms of 'bla bla bla size is a dagger anything above that is a short sword' it realy didnt matter to them aslong as it was sharp and you can poke things with it. but nowadays its important to categorise ancient relics as precise as possible so you can compare them to finds of different places etc
Yah
Title of video: dagger
What he forges: THE SIZE OF HIS ARM
It's a dagger, Alec is just really tiny! ;)
It's a long-dagger, don't worry about it
The xiphos is actually a short sword used in ancient greece maybe just maybe he called it a dagger cuz it may confuse other people because of its size.
Bronze is such a cool material to see worked! Thanks for sharing, Alec!!
Adam Dufrenne yeah it’s also the same rank my teammate are
you look like Tormund xD
It's actually hot when it's worked.
I'll shut up.
What I truly enjoy about Alec and Will is their age and attitude on life. No obstacles and no fear of trying new things. Keep forging ahead by friends!
Always enjoy watching when you are working mostly with your hands. Something more hypnotic than doing it strictly with power tools.
really nice to see you return to something basic and have you talk to the cameras about the details, heating, forging and the minutiae of the task at hand. great vid!
The slight look of worry when Will says “Successfully yes” made me laugh.
400% GHOST DEMON PUSSY HUNTER me too!
That "you wanna give it a go?" was such a nice moment. I really like the way you guys work together and share with each other.
The minimal amount of supercuts where a welcome return for this video. I've missed the sound of the hammer and Alec explaining things.
Love that y’all push yourselves way outside your comfort zones. Great stuff.
That is why I love UA-cam you see a lot of things that are done not just because they are useful or profitable but because they are cool and that allows creativity to flourish
i love that you can actually hear the power hammers in this and its not drowned out by music for once. hearing that anyang (idk i i spelled that right and i dont wanna google it) breathe is just incredible. the tools are just as alive as the people using them!
I'm in love with the deeper tone it makes when struck.
Should have just made a fish instead. Had the mouth, had the eye, c'mon dude.
The power and precision of Alec never fails to amaze me... Just great
Dude, Alec, your fans are crazy.
1 minute after publishing: ooo, am I first? No, 60 comments.
Oh, those must be patrons who had early access: NOPE
Patrick Finton Alec*
@@jackals1737 Fixed, thanks!
I am getting started with blacksmithing as soon as I can, at long last. Thank you Alec!
It would be pretty cool to see each of you forge a weapon from each side of an ancient conflict.
One from the Hatfields and one from the McCoys 😁
With the attention for detail this channel loves. I'd like to see them do an ornate articulate set of plate mail. Gold and jeweled inlay, with a matching dress sword. Tell me that would be amazing!!!
And in part 742 of the plate mail build...
And we would watch them all!
Every time I see Alec work on pieces like this an the effort and craftsmanship that goes into this, it makes me wonder about the ancients craftsmen that didn’t have access to power tools and modern forges and how long it would of taken to produce a sword like this.
I think this is the first time I've seen Alec Forging anything on his own in a while and I like it everything he makes turns to Gold it seems like to me that is. Either way it's away's awesome watching him forge
Much love from America! You're a helluva Smith to be so young! Keep killing it brother! You've taught me so much and I look forward to future vids.
Seeing over 100k views and only 7k likes tells me soo many people are forgetting to appreciate your work but loving it enough to check it out all the time Love your stuff don’t ever stop 👍
Its a blast that you use diferent materials. Just love it. Cant wait to see the look of it after the grind.
I love the sound of that mechanical power hammer. Reminds me of those old hit-and-miss stationary engines.
I love how Will and Alec show flubs and failures. It shows that they are still learning even after becoming professionals. Kudos to you young men! Keep up the good work!
This is so cool. I've wanted to see you forge a bronze sword for a long time. I'm excited to see the next video.
This is a most interesting build you've started. Anticipate the next installment eagerly.
🙏blessings to yall now.
Crawford out 🧙♂️
Forging a bronze dagger is like... the first thing you do in runescape... its level 1 stuff alec come on now
Shoulda made a dragon dagger smh
@@TheMiamiHeat As with all dragon weapons, the dragon dagger cannot be made from raw materials using the smithing skill.
Calum Shaw p
Dragon dagger p++
casting not forging
"That's like butter" THAT SHOULD BE A SHIRT
Or a chat up line.
Alec, you should try 10% aluminum bronze. You can make wicked cool knives out of it because you can oil quench it to make it very hard. The aluminum acts like the carbon in steel, and precipitates out of the bronze when you quench it. You can actually see it happen because the bronze becomes more silvery and less of the bronze color.
Quench at very dull orange, about 1400-1500 degrees.
Oh also, when your bronze overheats, you can somewhat correct the grain structure by hammering it at lower heats as long as it didn’t fall apart on the overheat.
Looks like a fun, on the fly project. Can’t wait to see the finished dagger.
Awesome little project. Great to see more Whack Whack. Forging that bronze looks like fun. Although I missed Will's punny banter, it was a good video. Have a beautiful day guys.
Hi Alec. Back to your roots as a blacksmith. Love it. Good health and stay safe
Hey man, Greetings from Greece!
We actually pronounce it: 'ksifos'.
Not that it matters. Great job!
Άρα δεν είμαι ο μόνος Έλληνας😁😁
With bronze you want a very dark red
And after every other heat you should heat cycle bronze
Wow, that sounds like a whole load of work! And if you're making something Bronze age, then wouldn't forging bronze be historically wrong anyway, when they just cast everything they needed?
I agree but if it’s for show then take the time do it right so you don’t burn through the material
A leaf shaped blade has always been one of my favorites to swing. The slimmer taper near the hilt leaves to the mass balanced closer to the point and swings with a pull through similar to a machete. On a smaller more mobile double edged blade like a xiphos the combination of power and maneuverability in your striking really adds up.
Really great to watch a more instructive video. Watching you forge the bronze was like playdough! I really hope it turns out!!! Can't wait!!!
Whatever material or project you two work on, I really like the hand forging.
What an absolute geezar this fella is. Wish I had half the forging talent he has.
Not sure the stories of the flags on your workshop walls, but as a Wyoming native, my state’s flag on your wall with a light on it caught my eye! Love watching your videos and your positive can-do attitude!
Hey Alec! I'm a very big fan of your work and I enjoy every single episode of you making stuff and I was wandering if you could please make a Chinese Guan Dao polearm.
It would be just awesome seeing you and Will work on one of those!
Much love from Romania! 🇷🇴
Thanks for such amazing video! Few videos ago I suggested an idea to forge a dagger and my dream comes true. It's pleasure to see such beatiful piece of work, even not (yet) finished. Hope it may be a good addition to your live workshop exhibition of cold weapons and also level up your experience in forging bronze to next level
Been wait to see this blade. Such a beautiful design
i can literally watch this channel all day' like i do now aha 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 who doesnt like watching tools and knives being hand made!
Alec, if you are reading this, i want to be like you in the future! I love watching you do it and i always fantasized forging like you!
Awesome video and project. I love your great work, keep it going!
Please try making a dragon twist. I love your vids.
Looks more like the little bronze sword from The Legend of Zelda.
This is gonna be a treat. I love copper and copper alloys!
That material looks like bronze wear plate. This material is infused with oil, which would explain the crumbly texture, and its use as machine guides.
Congratulations! You have advanced a smithing level. You are now LEVEL 2!
In Greek Xiphos is writed ξίφος ," the starting "ξ" sound more like "ks" in English and not with X which in English sounds more like "Z" in most words with a starting X .So Xiphos sound more like Ksiphos when you try to pronounce in English.I know it seems weird but since the word is straight up conversion of the letters(and not a very thoughtful one) of a Greek word I thought it would be better to know the actual pronunciation of the word.
vaggelis dogas ?
That's more gladius sized. Short sword, less dagger. Lol
Was about to say that lol
The hammer sound on bronze is amazing
awesome that you are expanding your skills in metallurgy :)
you usually cast the shape for bronze before you forge it
I'm into Greek history
I was thinking the same thing, but I assume that this is more about experamenting with scrap than it is about historical accuracy.
Alec Steele should be on Forged in Fire!! That would be amazing! Imagine the home forge he'd create!
Sounds like that was oil impregnated bronze. Its got large grains with voids in between them to hold oil. Course the oil would have burned off in the first heat. I'm shocked you were able to forge that at all.
I enjoy the smaller projects, very satisfying
All these suggestions on what sword to forge next...
Alec you have made very many awesome weapons and tools. How about some armor?
I tried to make a little Xyphos style dagger like that out of 1084. Much tougher than it first appears, I was not successful! Fun build, excited to see the end result!
FINALLY A FREAKING XIPHOS, I HAVE BEEN ASKING YOU TO MAKE ONE EVER SINCE THE GLADIUS, TODAY IS A GLORIUS DAY.
Glad to see you tackle a ξίφος. I hope that you'll eventually tackle a Hallstatt sword - with Noric steel, by preference.
Thank you Alec for getting back to talking and teaching... Not just showing off, Not that you don't deserve to show off a bit.. ! Good work thank you again.
5:27 *I want a burning sword like that* ✅🙂
Hey Alec! You should obviously make something with Damascus bronze!
Audible IS a great sponsor for older guys like me who can listen with hearing aids 'forever' but whose eyes get tired much too soon. Hearing those voices is a lot like having an intelligent companion nearby. MEANWHILE, THE GREEK BRONZE SHORT SWORD is very interesting: how will THAT work on your 'Patented' fruit compote slashing test?
Watching you hand forge and explain each step is what made this channel great. Since your move it’s been a bit more fluff. Good to see you return to your roots.
Less yack yack
More stabby attack!
Also make American flag Damascus!
Less gab gab more stab stab.
Yeet!
You should try your hand at making bronze. Copper and tin; should be easy.
You need more forge time and lass grind time, i miss the old days
Alec that was amazing, I have always been told you can't forge bronze so my mind is blown!
I would absolutely love to see a 16th century Italian longsword done in damascus.
Cant wait for the next installment! Looking good so far
I just recently found your channel, but I have to say, it’s amazing! Now for the suggestions: there’s an Indian dagger called a haladie, which is essentially a two-sided curved dagger. I think that forging it would create a unique challenge. Maybe something to think about.
HO YEAH!!!! Been waiting a long time for you to forge out a Xiphos. Next lvl is a Damascus Bronze mix! YEEEEEEAAAAH!!!
You should do a collab with Patrick Adair designs, would be sick 😎
Like a kinda ring with different themes or something, Patrick said he was down in a Livestream, and said to comment on your videos, you have a lot of the same viewers so that would be amazing
I love the look of leaf blades
I LOVE THE REAL TIME FORGING
That small break off of bronze would make really cool cluster pieces to use as gems or even set like a gem!
Just an idea 😉
Forging at such a young age..expecting to see some perfected Skyforge Steel soon ;)
Maybe you could make a khukri. Would love to See you approaching this weapon.
Alec I believe that bronze is actually ampco bronze. If so it's actually a lot like machining aluminum because it's got aluminum in it. Very easy and nice to machine we use it quite a bit at work. Tip when using it. Whatever you would normally cut aluminum with use it for this material itll work just as well.
Wow, that sound the bronze makes was very interesting. Fantastic content as always Alec and team.
Still waiting for wills chef knife lol. It’s nearly finished on insta come on 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😂
Great forging video again Alec! Thank you so much for sharing this with us. 👍😁
Alec, great to see you blossom in Mantana USA, but don't forget us guys in the UK who support your channel, so while you need to quote Fahrenheit, we need Celsius, PLEASE! 😁. Interesting project, can't wait to see the finished dagger. Hope I haven't offended you. Hugo Dale, N. Ireland.
Alec, that little piece of fallen off bronze looked really cool. I wonder if you could cover it in a resin cap and use it as a cabochon?
Congrats for being on trending
Will it get put through normalizing cycles in your new kiln to improve the grain structure? What's that like with bronze?
Sees thumbnail.
Huh?
After watching the entire video
Thats a dagger!?
Alec, Were still waiting on th Part 2 of Will's French knife for his Chef friend. Also Thanks for tons of interesting material and ideas.
7:17 - Those are some nice bronze metal crystals :O
I guess you've never seen someone forge bronze or heard that it crumbles if you get it too hot... Brass is the same, but actually a lot worse. It is not burnt, or really even damaged, it was just very close to melting... and then you hit it with a hammer or squeezed it in a vise...