DOOM II - The COMPLETE Classic Review | The Carbine64 Show

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
  • Episode 2
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    (uploading this because separating it into 2 parts is bad for views)
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    DOOM II - The COMPLETE Review | The Carbine64 Show
    #doom2 #gamereview #classicgaming

КОМЕНТАРІ • 75

  • @johnsmith9205
    @johnsmith9205 9 місяців тому +9

    The switch in MAP04 turns off the lights in the corridor. About "Dead Simple" - never take an invisibility powerup. "Tricks and Traps" - you only need to go into the doors with a blue floor under them, the rest of the doors lead to optional fights. Pain elementals can't shoot a lost soul if you're right next to them, becoming useless, just don't let them go into infighting.

    • @Carbine64
      @Carbine64  9 місяців тому

      Yes I found that out 😂 Thank you though

  • @WolfinZ
    @WolfinZ 10 місяців тому +7

    This video was a banger! seriously underrated. I am glad YT recommended it to me

    • @Carbine64
      @Carbine64  10 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for watching!

  • @raizelvpn4350
    @raizelvpn4350 9 місяців тому +5

    300 views? Man, this world is unfaithful.

    • @Carbine64
      @Carbine64  9 місяців тому +3

      Yeah man, video has been picking up a bit of steam recently though 😁 hopefully strikes the algorithm

  • @Therealdaveez
    @Therealdaveez 2 місяці тому +1

    a friendly reminder that you don't need to kill every single enemy in refueling base. and you DID play on ultra- violence ;)
    anyways, good video, subscribed.

  • @MightyRyan1337
    @MightyRyan1337 7 місяців тому +6

    Every Doom player:
    *plays on highest difficulty*
    *complains about difficulty*

    • @Carbine64
      @Carbine64  7 місяців тому +5

      The problem is not what the difficulty is, but how it is done. Doom 2's design is (unintentionally) but actively anti-player by scattering very important things in a variety of unimportant looking areas and situations. Like Downtown. And Nirvana. And The Chasm.
      This is Doom 2 at its fullest potential, because it was made on Ultra Violence and then nerfed down. If I played on the easiest difficulty and called it an easy game, I would have no credibility as a reviewer.
      Thank you for watching.

  • @NaiveChicken
    @NaiveChicken 10 місяців тому +4

    This video is amazing. This channel deserves more attention

    • @Carbine64
      @Carbine64  10 місяців тому +2

      Thank you so much!

    • @NaiveChicken
      @NaiveChicken 10 місяців тому

      @@Carbine64 if you plan on covering any doom 3 stuff, i might help for multiplayer. I can run it on my android

  • @ShadesMan
    @ShadesMan 9 місяців тому +3

    2 sewers in 5 maps! *civvie ding* love it!!!!

  • @LeUberTroll
    @LeUberTroll 8 місяців тому

    About 4 months ago I went through Doom and Doom 2 for the first time. The highs of Doom 2 eclipse Doom in every way and have easily beaten many modern FPS games I’ve played but the lows. The lows… oh God the lows. I will literally skip Chasm and whatever the hell that castle map is called on each new playthrough.
    Some of your takes are deffo skill issue 7/11 please try the Master Levels and talk about those piles of doodoo. Subbed

    • @Carbine64
      @Carbine64  8 місяців тому +1

      I've already started working on Plutonia and have heard nightmarish tales of the Master Levels. Probably not for a while.

    • @LeUberTroll
      @LeUberTroll 8 місяців тому

      Plutonia is an unfair, boring mess. At least master levels has "creative" levels@@Carbine64

    • @bombthing
      @bombthing 5 місяців тому

      Yeah thats my problem with TNT Evilution, they really said "alright lets make a few of the best maps we can possibly think of, maps that will completely shatter doom 2's good maps, and then lets sprinkle in maps that make maps like Downtown and Nirvana look like masterpieces."

    • @trenth3492
      @trenth3492 18 днів тому

      @@LeUberTrollthat’s a hot take if I’ve ever heard one. Though considering your username that’s probably your thing lol

  • @eriknewton4656
    @eriknewton4656 9 місяців тому +7

    the chasm was by far the worst map in doom 2

  • @esloc8889
    @esloc8889 9 місяців тому +7

    a minute and a half in and its clear you have talent for making videos, this is production quality i would expect from a channel a hundred times the size of yours. earned a subscriber, and i sure hope more people find your channel

    • @Carbine64
      @Carbine64  9 місяців тому +4

      Thank you so much!

  • @TGAProMKM
    @TGAProMKM 9 місяців тому +3

    that why you should not play and record doom at ultra violence because they bite your ass dude and that's for sure....lol!!!

  • @user-yv6xw7ns3o
    @user-yv6xw7ns3o 9 місяців тому +6

    My DOOM senses were a-tingling when I came across this. Despite how many DOOM reviews are out there, it's not every day I come across one so thoughtfully put together as this. Nice!! 🤘😈🤘

    • @Carbine64
      @Carbine64  9 місяців тому +2

      Thank you so much!

    • @btchiaintkidding7837
      @btchiaintkidding7837 22 дні тому +1

      ​@@Carbine64
      you gotta make more videos like this dude.
      i love your style.
      also the in-depth review is on point too.

  • @soundclock2939
    @soundclock2939 9 місяців тому +5

    I feel like I'm the only one who thinks Doom 2 looks nice. Sure its not masterful eye candy but it's not "ugly" as most people say. It looks more grunge and industrial than the first game and it works for what it's trying to go for with a different look compared to the pure Aliens inspired sci fi and fire and brimstone Hell of doom 1.

    • @Carbine64
      @Carbine64  9 місяців тому

      Perhaps my overexposure to the stock textures has worn me down on them, but to me Doom 2's graphics don't hold up in an atmospheric sense, at all, ESPECIALLY when they're in Sandy's hands. I don't really see a grungy look as much as I see "I don't know what to do here so I'm just gonna put random shit everywhere". I don't feel immersed into the atmosphere of vanilla classic Doom at all, and I think that's a big failing.

    • @soundclock2939
      @soundclock2939 9 місяців тому

      @@Carbine64 I guess theres only so much that a game from 1994 can immerse you. With games this limited in what they could do back then alot of it comes down to your imagination to fill in the gaps on what this world is. Quake 1 has that same exact thing going for it. Super brown and blocky on the surface level but when youre running throught it theres more that meets the eye.

    • @Carbine64
      @Carbine64  9 місяців тому +1

      In my opinion, Quake has an incredibly cohesive art style that manages to look whole and the team was able to create some incredibly imposing architecture, which fit like a glove. Not to mention the excellent ambient sound or the Nine Inch Nails soundtrack. Quake had so much more of an idea of its own atmosphere than Doom, which was focused mostly on being a fun shooting game and releasing in time for the holidays.
      Edit: also I guess playing in the very unintended resolution of 1080p was not ideal for the original design of the game 😅

    • @EnvyOmicron
      @EnvyOmicron 9 днів тому

      @@Carbine64 Another contributing factor to Doom 2 looking kinda ugly here is GZDoom's default graphics settings being lackluster. Unless you tweak it manually, it doesn't faithfully replicate some of the nuances of the game's lighting, like the black fog that's meant to swallow up the darker areas, and the original color palette that made the game look crunchier isn't faithfully reproduced either.

    • @djdoug242
      @djdoug242 День тому +1

      @@EnvyOmicron yeah, I honestly can't stand GZDoom's default renderer, which flattens all the colors and "fixes" (ruins) the distance/shadow/lighting/dark area rendering. GZDoom requires a lot of fiddling to get it to emulate the original look

  • @BladeDrake101
    @BladeDrake101 9 місяців тому +5

    Ha! You even made a sewer count reference!

  • @pphams1780
    @pphams1780 10 місяців тому +3

    Bro how tf does this even have under 10k likes? This video is amazing bro actually beautiful

    • @Carbine64
      @Carbine64  10 місяців тому +1

      Thank you very much!

  • @LeggyMcBendy
    @LeggyMcBendy 8 місяців тому +2

    Man. This is now one of my FAVORITE Doom docs. You really have some great content. For real. You got a sub for life. Keep going. You gonna do great. I’ll be sharing your video in some forums. Get you some more traffic. Something. You the REALEST

    • @Carbine64
      @Carbine64  8 місяців тому +2

      Wow thank you! I didn't think I deserved such high praise but I'm glad you enjoyed it!

    • @LeggyMcBendy
      @LeggyMcBendy 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Carbine64 the amount of work put into just this video alone is admirable to a high degree. You deserve more subs. This is GOOD stuff. There’s too much crap that gets praise. And good stuff like this goes unnoticed. It ain’t right. So ima do my part to help expedite that. Sorry for Dick riding lol just want you to know that your hard work shows. And that’s hard to find nowadays. Be well. Keep kicking butt.

    • @Carbine64
      @Carbine64  8 місяців тому +1

      Thank you, and look forward to my next video :)

    • @LeggyMcBendy
      @LeggyMcBendy 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Carbine64 too many not so great creators are given so much praise for just destroying other creators reputations. You’re not destroying. You’re creating. You made a video about a game who’s legacy is still considered to be one of the most important softwares to ever be released. You like it. And you made it into an essay and is awesome. This is a great doc. Matter of fact. Ima watch it again right Tf now.

  • @djdoug242
    @djdoug242 День тому

    I thought "The Gantlet" was because it was the rail/subway station that followed on from the flooded subway in Underhalls

  • @berlin040909
    @berlin040909 2 місяці тому +1

    Gotcha was a Romero map not a sandy map oh and so was industrial zone.

  • @TheD3Z3r7
    @TheD3Z3r7 9 місяців тому +4

    Going to watch this at work starting next week :)

  • @TVTheHumanAI
    @TVTheHumanAI 7 місяців тому +1

    We artificial intelligence are impressed by this video game called doom

  • @hikaru_hajime941
    @hikaru_hajime941 10 місяців тому +4

    this mf needs much much more views and subss damn

    • @Carbine64
      @Carbine64  10 місяців тому

      thank you very much!

  • @volpe_sol
    @volpe_sol 4 місяці тому +1

    I just finished Doom 2 for the first time and found your review :D Great video, keep up the great work!

    • @Carbine64
      @Carbine64  4 місяці тому

      Thank you very much!

  • @SeventhOrion
    @SeventhOrion 4 місяці тому +1

    I'm your 404th subscriber.
    I will take pride in this title. I will not error.

    • @Carbine64
      @Carbine64  4 місяці тому

      Thanks for watching!

  • @slinkyfpv
    @slinkyfpv 9 місяців тому +2

    A real old school pro learned to ignore and trap lost souls as soon as you can as early on in the map as possible, limiting PEs to 1 or 2 at a time. Play your cards right, and it renders them completely inert.

  • @trenth3492
    @trenth3492 18 днів тому

    You KNOW a doom review is gonna be good when they break out custom midis, very excited to watch this to the end.

  • @Therealdaveez
    @Therealdaveez Місяць тому

    24:16 how would you call a very obvious switch that opens a door right near you that isn't tagged as a secret a secret?

  • @ONEDACASH
    @ONEDACASH 8 місяців тому

    I was that kid 12 years old in 1994,,,pc was 486 sx25 with 8Megabits of ram,,,didnt know how to use mouse to play so nothing but keyboard,,,fun times😂

  • @scottl.1568
    @scottl.1568 10 місяців тому +2

    Whut

  • @fullauto86
    @fullauto86 10 місяців тому +4

    good stuff homie.

    • @Carbine64
      @Carbine64  10 місяців тому

      Thanks very much!

  • @cedrickrobillard8339
    @cedrickrobillard8339 9 місяців тому +3

    your so fucking absolutely underrated i can't believe it lmaooo

    • @Carbine64
      @Carbine64  9 місяців тому

      Thank you so much!

  • @GodKingBob
    @GodKingBob 4 дні тому

    This is so well made man, how hasnt the algo picked it up yet

    • @Carbine64
      @Carbine64  4 дні тому

      idk man, just unlucky :)

  • @marshallhilton3498
    @marshallhilton3498 Місяць тому

    No the music u think if first is from the hangar

  • @PalaceMidasMusic
    @PalaceMidasMusic 8 місяців тому +1

    This was very entertaining for the course of an hour and a half. Some of it kind o reminded me of old youtube; only in that there was some genuine fun to be had watching, because of the edits and music and all that and the face reactions, like old angry videogame reviews, but the points and perspectives were all so well put forth and not copied from countless other vids. There's a lot of people who just hear some interesting points about Doom and then they become dominant even though they are just opinions. There is so much going on in Doom II besides the super shotgun, but often it feels like that's all that gets mentioned.
    It's fitting because Doom II really pisses me off. The fact that downtowns progression for instance, has you jumping down onto platforms beneath you when the original game had no mouselook is unforgivable. This is the kind of game that enjoys having you search for 30 mins for a key, only for the door to lead to another coloured door directly behind it. Very rarely in Ultimate Doom will you be clicking every wall looking for the way forward, but Doom II can be like Simons Quest at times.
    It's also just not fun in any way playing levels on their own merits, as in with pistol start. This is by design I guess, since Sandy Peterson apparently designed Doom II with the idea in mind players would carry ammo and weapons between levels, whereas they didnt incorporate that idea into Doom I so much. I actually of course respect the grind of Sandy, and without him Doom wouldn't be what it is.
    I don't necessarily agree that Doom I is obsolete (re other video), Romero's levels have a style to them that is actually not emulated very well at all by most WAD designers and mappers in the community, who are enjoyers of high difficulty and homages to a kind of Doom design language that has evolved, but Romero's approach to designing levels creates a mood or aesthetic I find is unique, which is evident in his Quake levels and more recently Sigil. The Ultimate Doom is accesible though for new players still, makes it a mandatory play in my opinion. If only to understand how far mapping has come.
    I do however agree that Doom II is kind of obsolete, and doesn't impress because it's so full of novel ideas that aren't so novel anymore.

    • @Carbine64
      @Carbine64  8 місяців тому

      Wow, very well said, and thank you for the compliments. I do actively try to emulate that old UA-cam reviewer style by minimizing the use of memes, coming up with my own jokes and making an overarching "villain" character.
      I agree with your points on the different games. Romero really was great at what he did, but thanks to his "rockstar lifestyle", Sandy was put into a position of power that he probably shouldn't have been. 20 or so maps being assigned to a guy that made board games for a living is crazy.
      My next video's gonna be Plutonia, those maps are gonna be frustrating but in a whole different way :)

    • @PalaceMidasMusic
      @PalaceMidasMusic 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Carbine64 You using the DS as a phone was really funny to me, as I used to have an Ngage. Plutonia will be awesome I'm sure, if it doesn't mindbreak you ha

  • @JesusRodriguez-zc2bg
    @JesusRodriguez-zc2bg 4 місяці тому

    Omg this game is addicting

    • @Carbine64
      @Carbine64  4 місяці тому

      I wouldn't say so, but good for you if you do

  • @PeterGriffin-rp9iq
    @PeterGriffin-rp9iq 9 днів тому

    What da song at 1:26:26?

  • @Cenere1789
    @Cenere1789 9 місяців тому +2

    Not even close to Decino !!!! sorry bro :)

    • @Carbine64
      @Carbine64  9 місяців тому +2

      that's fine, i'm a new youtuber so obviously i'll be less experienced :)

  • @buttheadrulesagain
    @buttheadrulesagain 7 місяців тому

    Icon of Sin is trickier without freelook. You have to time the rocket before you reach the top of the elevator. And you have to mow down monsters that keep shooting at you, incrementing in numbers if you keep failing the rocket shots.

    • @djdoug242
      @djdoug242 День тому +1

      yeah when he opened the vid with "i'm using freelook" i was like, hmm, what's the chance he blows through icon of sin and declares it not difficult