Streaking seems to be a largely one off issue. As for feet looseness, different surface finishes affect the thickness of the bottom case overall, which couldn't be reasonably accounted for in prototyping. However, this will be fixed in production and all bottom cases should have adequately tight fitting bottom feet. Force break will be integrated into the production unit cases. It's great to see a studio step up to rectify issues with their boards, even if they're very small or the board is a prototype (as I've had times months ago when I received other review unit PCBs with broken sockets/cases with large imperfections and never gotten them replaced). Transparency is such an important part of the hobby, especially as it continues to grow. Props to Ra66it/Machina for addressing this.
Honestly I find the foam vs no foam debate to be tired at this point and both definitely have their advantages and disadvantages but both are very much here to stay and foam is undeniably been great for the growth of the hobby
The point is it's supposed to be an open option, and not a necessity for decent sound. You'll of course have the option for foam even if the board doesn't "need" it. Using it is up to your preference.
@@bosenngantor9160 sure, but i can still argue that some clack boards can't achieve a sound signature more muted boards can both with foam, regardless of what you think of it. The insinuations with a lot of these people claiming that stuff is preference is that foam is inferior, i think that is also more of a personal preference as opposed to fact
@@bosenngantor9160 that's the point isn't it? if you like foam/no foam sound, that's called personal preference, but to repeatly state one is worse than another is just plain stupidity. people nowadays act like foam in a board doesn't need any mindful design, you slam those foams into a board then it sounds "foamy" and only newbees like "boring and lifeless" foamy sound, totally ignore the fact that there are "high end boards" (KC to be specific) sound horrible with foams in them. those who rambles all day about how foam is a easy fix for hollowness have absolute no idea what they are talking about, the no foam no flexcut bandwagon is going out of control these days.
Silicon is the chemical element Si, while silicone is a synthetic polymer. Although it appears like the words are synonyms and can be used interchangeably, they’re not and they designate completely different things.
Would love to see the simplistic design move down into the budget market. I feel like removing all the meme cuts, foams, excessive acessories, and gratuitous packaging should enable someone to create a top or tadpole mount board which sounds good for the price of a QK or Zoom board.
I like the sound, and I think the weak spacebar can be remedied with a really heavy spring. I'm talking 100g springs. For the price though, that's hard to love.
This price for what you get in todays market is a joke. This tadpole design from the frog is near 3 years old, and still has a terrible space bar/no improvement on top. Great video aesthetics though.
The Frog's poor sounding spacebar isn't due to the tadpoles. The problem is that there's too little room in the case under the spacebar. Other Tadpole boards like the W1-AT or the Heejin sound fine.
It's not significantly more expensive than a frog mini. Frog mini is 335 in total (plus plate and pcb), this starts at 349. And frog mini is 60% while this is 65%
Take frog mini as an example. Frog mini is 265. Plus plate and pcb it sits at 335. Frog mini is a 60%, and 65% probably costs about 30-50 more, that brings it to 365-385. There you go, that's above the cheapest orbit65. I haven't taken anodization quality and aesthetic into account
Streaking seems to be a largely one off issue.
As for feet looseness, different surface finishes affect the thickness of the bottom case overall, which couldn't be reasonably accounted for in prototyping. However, this will be fixed in production and all bottom cases should have adequately tight fitting bottom feet.
Force break will be integrated into the production unit cases.
It's great to see a studio step up to rectify issues with their boards, even if they're very small or the board is a prototype (as I've had times months ago when I received other review unit PCBs with broken sockets/cases with large imperfections and never gotten them replaced). Transparency is such an important part of the hobby, especially as it continues to grow. Props to Ra66it/Machina for addressing this.
Honestly I find the foam vs no foam debate to be tired at this point and both definitely have their advantages and disadvantages but both are very much here to stay and foam is undeniably been great for the growth of the hobby
The point is it's supposed to be an open option, and not a necessity for decent sound. You'll of course have the option for foam even if the board doesn't "need" it. Using it is up to your preference.
@@nearLucidnot always imo, some good clack boards sound worse than good foamed boards when its paired with it
@@creationfied your definition of good or worse is not even universal for all of people
@@bosenngantor9160 sure, but i can still argue that some clack boards can't achieve a sound signature more muted boards can both with foam, regardless of what you think of it.
The insinuations with a lot of these people claiming that stuff is preference is that foam is inferior, i think that is also more of a personal preference as opposed to fact
@@bosenngantor9160 that's the point isn't it? if you like foam/no foam sound, that's called personal preference, but to repeatly state one is worse than another is just plain stupidity. people nowadays act like foam in a board doesn't need any mindful design, you slam those foams into a board then it sounds "foamy" and only newbees like "boring and lifeless" foamy sound, totally ignore the fact that there are "high end boards" (KC to be specific) sound horrible with foams in them. those who rambles all day about how foam is a easy fix for hollowness have absolute no idea what they are talking about, the no foam no flexcut bandwagon is going out of control these days.
nice preview of the QK100 PCB at the beginning. :)
isnt this just frog mini but 65 percent? removing the tadpole near spacebar might help
It’s geonwork so the same people
@@BreathOfDust oh lmao that would make so much sense
@@ericseguin2421it's not.. geon just happens to be the vendor
@@cainczz Oh yeah, that’s weird my bad, it even has the same mounting system as the frog so I just assumed.
With so many years I have in this hobby, simplicity became what I define as uniqueness. The simpler the features, the better for me.
Like football
Silicon is the chemical element Si, while silicone is a synthetic polymer.
Although it appears like the words are synonyms and can be used interchangeably, they’re not and they designate completely different things.
Would love to see the simplistic design move down into the budget market. I feel like removing all the meme cuts, foams, excessive acessories, and gratuitous packaging should enable someone to create a top or tadpole mount board which sounds good for the price of a QK or Zoom board.
You give me hope for the future of this hobby. Keep up the good work 🔥
If i hade money right now, I would definitly pick one up. Yet another fantastic video and showcase
I love huge bezels, plateless, flex cuts, leaf spring with no foam, long pole tactiles, and SA caps.
Hivemind meta is stupid. Like what you like.
Sounds like you need to get you the Class80. Board is literally all that you described
@@MrSkullhead0 I have the Class 65 and I have a Haitun on order. I can't stand TKL, ha.
Stepped caps is the future
Hmmm those matchas sound great but kinda scratchy?
What color was your case her in your build??
sounded better before the force break, if you listen closely w/ headphones the force break introduces some hollowness
How does it compare to the RE65?
I like the sound, and I think the weak spacebar can be remedied with a really heavy spring. I'm talking 100g springs. For the price though, that's hard to love.
Flex cut PCB and meme plates (flex cut plates) were both scams. In case it triggers some, it's my opinion.
yo qk100 pcb
Too bad there's no EU vendor for this one or I would have bought it
This price for what you get in todays market is a joke. This tadpole design from the frog is near 3 years old, and still has a terrible space bar/no improvement on top.
Great video aesthetics though.
The Frog's poor sounding spacebar isn't due to the tadpoles. The problem is that there's too little room in the case under the spacebar. Other Tadpole boards like the W1-AT or the Heejin sound fine.
It's not significantly more expensive than a frog mini. Frog mini is 335 in total (plus plate and pcb), this starts at 349. And frog mini is 60% while this is 65%
The spacebar doesn't sound that great.
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bro cut your pinkies off, they're useless anyway.
Ridiculously overpriced.
not really? but definitely not a steal
Rather impressed by the full brass and copper bottom prices
but 300ish dollars is not a hefty price at all to begin with
No it's not.
Take frog mini as an example. Frog mini is 265. Plus plate and pcb it sits at 335. Frog mini is a 60%, and 65% probably costs about 30-50 more, that brings it to 365-385. There you go, that's above the cheapest orbit65. I haven't taken anodization quality and aesthetic into account