How Much Cancer Does Processed Meat Cause?
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Utter nonsense
But what part about processed meat is the part that causes cancer? Because isn't technically pretty much all meat processed because they need to cut the meat so it is correct shape and size and weight?
I used to work in a cancer research department at a hospital and I'd eat deli turkey and cottage cheese almost every day for lunch. As I ate, doctors would walk in and comment on how healthy my lunches always were. It wasn't sarcasm, they were genuinely impressed. No one, including me, knew anything about the dietary causes of the diseases we were trying to cure. It's one of my biggest regrets, although if I knew then what I know now, I'd have become a department pariah. They couldn't even handle hearing that B-cells might be affecting the _in_ _vivo_ results of their T-cell experiments. It was major taboo.
Way back when it was true that everyone thought eating a turkey sandwich was healthy! A turkey sandwich, celery/carrot sticks, and an apple was considered super healthy! I had no idea...
My experience confirms Dr. Greger's statement about doctors not giving dietary advice to cancer patients. A colonoscopy revealed a cancerous polyp which had fortunately not spread outside of the excised polyp, so I did not require further treatment beyond having follow-up colonoscopies every two years. While researching the disease, I discovered Dr. Greger and other proponents of eating a whole food plant-based diet, which I promptly adopted. As Dr. Greger says, a cancer diagnosis is a teachable moment. When I told the nurse practitioner, who met with me to discuss the results of a follow-up colonoscopy, about my diet change, she expressed skepticism. She thinks genetics make more of a difference than diet. My family doctor is also not enthusiastic about my decision to change my diet. However, their lack of interest has not deterred me from this dietary path, mainly because my overall health is so much better now.
I'm not so sure you can tell how your health is doing just by changing your diet in the sense that maybe you feel a little different but how can you tell if any disease is forming I don't know if that makes any sense
My doctor calls my plant-based diet an 'experiment' and asked me what experiments I conduct in addition. He said he can't interpret my LDL/HDL ratio since he has never seen anything alike amongst his other patients.
Whole food plant diet is the way to go to prevent cancers. I've heard of colon polyps disappearing with a plant diet. Check out Dr Joel Fuhrman and his nutritarian GBOMB diet. Fuhrman says long term studies all show cancer is only about 6 to 10% genetic, and the rest is diet and lifestyle. I can't believe your family does not fully support your new healthy diet. A plant diet also reduces heart disease and stroke risk to almost zero.
@@arlenmargolin4868 Well yes. There could be something bad going on that I am not aware of, but lots of good things are happening that I do know about. I am no longer overweight and my blood pressure and cholesterol have dropped to healthy levels. Plus, I just feel better. That's good enough for me. There's no guarantee that I won't develop another cancer, especially after a lifetime of unhealthy eating habits, but the changes I've made are making my life better right now.
@@deutziana4370 she thinks genetics are more of a difference... lol.. has she ever heard of the term epigenetics, genes can be turned on and off through diet.... genes are not separate from diet and lifestyle they are linked
All schools and hospitals should offer vegan options to eat.
Serving someone with heart disease the very thing that caused their heart disease is crazy.
This should be an opportunity for nutrition education while in the hospital.
Hospitals should offer only food chains that serve healthy food. Johns Hopkins banned Mc Donalds from the property
Ingesting the highly processed flesh of a tortured dead animal on a daily basis, what could possibly go wrong ..
Who eats live animals?
@@CarnevalOne In South Korea, they eat live octopus... It's considered a delicacy. Look for it on UA-cam.
@@spektred They eat "processed, tortured" live animals"?
@@CarnevalOne Yep. ua-cam.com/video/g8TYW8yLBM8/v-deo.html
And yet it took American Diabetes Association just last year to recognize a WFPB actually works to combat diabetes😔😔
Yes, that and Intermittent fasting is also a highly effective way to lower blood sugar. It's not "starving" since your body has fat which it burns if you skip a few meals.
Yet, Big Pharma will insist that patients absolutely need metformin in a daily basis. They will continue to make billions on diabetes medication until people wake up.
Was just wondering what is a wfpb
@@arlenmargolin4868 Whole food plant based :)
They also mentioned keto diets (which can be carnivore) help.
@@wocket42 Keto? Really..WOW!
The thing that irritates me the most is the state of our hospitals menus over here in the uk. Jam packed full of processed meat and cheese.
Hospital menus in the US are often a joke as well. I know several people with horror stories about the oversights they’ve experienced.
@@hgv85 I remember when my mom was in the hospital, I was appalled by the poor quality food (and soda pop) that they gave her to eat.
Or worse: full of carbs. Everybody (i.e. all the studies) know that the worst thing for the body after an injury or operations is carbs.
@@wocket42 Errr citation needed!
Yes, here in the US our hospitals feed garbage as well!!
I don’t eat all that processed meat but I wonder what makes all that stuff cancer promoting. It can’t be the nitrites because the same thing is said about nitrite free meat. It’s not the sodium because very low salt deli meat is available and the same negative things are said for that too. So, what makes this stuff so toxic? What do I say when asked about it? Nobody ever explains the “why” of the negativity.
My mind loves meat, fish and dairy. My body clearly loves plants. Let's get down to brass tacks: when I used to eat flesh, I would excrete one or two days later what sometimes felt like knuckle-dusters. For this reason alone, I would not go back to eating meat.
Fish has omega 3s and meat has b vitamins, very good sources of protein too, my favorite is salmon and fresh sirloin with lettuce.
...And yet we have YT "doctors" claiming the opposite. That all studies are flawed, except the one claiming nitrates/ nitrites are fine, and we should all be "enjoying our bacon". This is why we need to either review the data ourselves, or find a Doctor with integrity and nothing to sell who can put these studies into layman's terms without being compromised in some way, and not reaching beyond the data, making claims that are not supported. Much appreciation to this man, he cares about us, not the $, and that is rare.
Lung cancer is also diet related, a big portion of sufferers never smoked.
You know I just recently have come to that realization which also leads me to believe that even though science is scientific it's also bewildering
Maybe. Though many other respiratory issues aren't treatable with diet.
Lung is susceptible to permanent damage and recovery from that is grim in many cases.
more likely due to second hand smoke.
90% were smokers.
The keto diet doctor Sarah Hallberg got and died from lung cancer, yet spent her career claiming meat-based keto diets would keep cancer rates down. She wasn’t a smoker, yet the diet didn’t seem to work for her. Weird
I’m sure the keto crowd will claim she didn’t do the diet “correctly”
People just love to eat their bacon even if it kills them...
the carcinogen is nitrates nitrites … how about uncured?
"We try not to smoke around our kids. Why would we send them to school with a bologna sandwich?" Indeed! 541,000 deaths a year from processed meat alone! It's tragic.
Millions of deaths world-wide caused by plant-based malnutrition. Also tragic that this is being promoted.
@@wocket42Utter nonsense
Millions of deaths worldwide? Would love to see what study you grabbed that claim from 🤔
Thank you
Very important. But what about those like me who grew up on ham sandwiches and adults who smoked at home. Do we face cancer even though we have now gone to a meatless diet ??
I believe Dr.Greger mentions that a person who has not smoked in seven years has the same risk for lung cancer as an individual who has never smoked.
Check out what Dr Fuhrman says on that.
Very informative
Thank you for talking about absolute risk. It's an important part of any conversation when it comes to science.
Instead of adding fiber to hot dogs, people could eat a high fiber plant based food with the hot dog.
Or better yet, make the hot dog better for you by replacing one thing- The hot dog.
🤔 am I the only person who noticed that he didn't reference any randomizer double blind control studies like he always does. I wonder how they "put it to the test!"
Most probably there hasn't been one done yet so there is that...they do take time.
If only Chadwick Boseman knew this.... Sadly meat and dairy propaganda is strong. But my body feels better every day from eating a WFPB diet with intermittent fasting. I just woke up today and ate a mango for breakfast 🙂
Didn't he say he was "mostly" vegan?
You are so right. I've been WFPB since 2013 when I first saw Dr Joel Fuhrman on PBS. I feel like I did at 25 again. Total Cholesterol 130, ldl 73, BP 105/65, 5'10" and 150lbs. This is the best diet for health and longevity in the world.
@@rons5319 That's awesome. When I switched to a plant based diet I also shed about 30 pounds without any effort. Looking back at my old photos I looked so fat and unhealthy. Now my skin and body looks so much better and healthier.
@@kazuoua Yeah, he did. That helps, but apparently being black also increases the likelihood of a person getting colorectal cancer. 👀
"Black people are at a disproportionately high risk for colon cancer diagnoses, according to the American Cancer Society, and the mortality rate has increased in recent years, particularly among Black men." -- Dr. Edith Mitchell
And he probably wasn't "mostly" vegan for his whole life. Cancer can hang around a long, long time growing before it's detected.
Is it the nitrates or the fact most process meats are made with pork?
What makes processed meat carcinogenic? Is it the snouts, ears and tails or that the manufacture adds the carcinogen similar to the tobacco producers adding tar and other nonessential chemicals?
In large part the added nitrates I believe
@@chrisr.6638 Meat itself is a group 2A carcinogen ("probably carcinogenic", just below group 1) so it's not just added nitrates. There are other things about the processing as well I'm sure that adds to it.
@@chrisr.6638 You know Chris I always thought that myself and as of late I've been listening to a man named Eric Berg who supposedly eats five strips of bacon everyday along with four eggs and he's convinced that nitrosamines or nitrates or of no consequence so there you go the pot of stew that we call confusion is still being added to
@@eatplantsloveanimals you know I had an argument with my 17-year-old daughter about meat versus veggies and she's trying to convince me how meat is this heavily carcinogenic product but recently I've seen a video where a study has been done about meat from other parts of the world and supposedly grass-fed meat has a whole different outcome and we' the US of a feeds most of their commercial meats grain and GMO corn, which supposedly changes everything
@@arlenmargolin4868 I've seen a video of some University scientists literally showing the DNA and cell damage under the microscope after applying the nitrates. It's pretty well established and Berg is in denial sadly.
what about UNcured hotdogs? they do not have nitrites/nitrates.....
Animal products aren't healthy
$$$ for the meat industry, $$$ for the cancer screening and treatment industry (be terrified of getting cancer, seek sickness, get screened frequently, don’t bother to change how ya live)
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Thanks for doing the research and posting!
You heard it here 1st, reading WEF (I mean WHO) articles & regurgitating them on youtube is now considered reasearch.
If we got rid of processed food you think food prices will stay the same though? It will just become a bigger problem for people in poverty.
@John Does There's still a limited number of food in a country. You can change the digital credit but food is not an abstract digital thing
@John Does You're telling me you can eat grass and hay
@John Does I'd love to see you eat it
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what about ppl who do not chew their food properly, can have different causes, and from that they become malnourished, cancer and "covid" is around the corner
The book Meatonomics reveals how the USDA operates and is filled with conflict of interest since they support the meat industry and come up with food intake guidelines. It all boils down to $$$$.
They should all have labels on them if they are not going to be banned
Q: How Much Cancer Does Processed Meat Cause?
A: Yes.
Zero
Plenty
Whoa. After I realized this wasn’t the same video from before I was amazed that you are answering the question I asked and retracted from the last video …
he deleted your actual question?
I thought skin cancer was the leading cancer among both sexes, in the video lung and colorectal are listed though
one could argue that grain fed animals are really processed animals, as free range grass fed meat has a very different profile. And of course, so called "processed" meat starts with grain fed animals. So in my mind, they are double processed.
Not Khummus, It's Hummus.
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PLEASE.. I need an alternative to deli meat sandwiches which my kids will enjoy!! I've been trying for a year now. Also please make a video on ashwagandha. Thank you for your work Dr.
Get whole food animal products from local pastured animal farms. It's illogical to pin modern disease on ancient food. Modern food processing methods? Sure. Plant foods are the most processed of all.
Peanut Butter and Jelly, Hummus and green pepper, tofu ham and mustard.(really easy recipe), Vegan Cream Cheese and tomato. Also The Happy Pear has a great Burrito recipe . Let me know if you need more ideas.
Tofurky makes two great options. They won’t know the difference. Also don’t skimp on the Veganaise by Follow Your Heart.
Thin sliced roast beef, chicken or turkey.
@@ritas6972 lovely Rita are you serious you actually mix peanut butter and green pepper,
Maybe it’s the bread on the sandwich. Or the mustard. Or the mayo. Maybe that green leafy crap that goes into the sandwich that’s causing the issue?
Lol, I think scientists are a little more thorough than that...
@@annoyingbutmorallyconsistent I agree (jokes aside) but nobody just eats processed meats alone. They go into a mouth (and gut) full of carbs. They linger around unnecessarily because the insulin levels are high and trying to process sugars first. I’m still not convinced that it’s the meat or even the salt nitrates that are fully causing the problem. I’m inclined to believe the body cannot handle high fat and high carbs intake at the same time. At least not after 25 years of metabolic damage!
@@jaywhoisit4863 So why eat the meat at all? Our bodies are made to run on glucose from carbohydrates. It's the breakdown of carnitine and choline in the gut that produces TMAO which is what causes the issues. There are many studies that have proven this. Carnitine and choline are only found in high enough quantities to cause issues in meat, dairy and eggs.
@@annoyingbutmorallyconsistent the problem with only fueling with Carbs is that over time our metobolic system gets worn down by the non stop secretion of insulin. It’s apparent that long term carb use makes us ill. It’s also apparent that carbs mixed with high fat intake (SAD) also weakens the metabolic health in humans. It’s understandable that the energy needs can come from either source but not at the same time. Personally I see fat as the healthier option because it’s usually mixed with high quality protein. Occasions demand we use carbs but endless carb loads are certainly killing our species.
@@jaywhoisit4863 Right but the science doesn't support what you are saying. Study after study has shown that a whole food plant based diet can reverse heart disease, diabetes and can improve cancer outcomes. I have to stick with Harvard, the WHO, the Canadian Cancer association and all the others who have looked at the science and agree.
I believe it is the chemicals in the processed food
Cancer Is so cesterol related that of you take statins to lower It you Also slow cancer growth.
Statins are anti cancer drugs somehow.
No, the lower your LDL, the higher the chance of dying of cancer or of infections. Cholesterol is crucial for the immune system to fight cancer and infections.
We should investigate what specifically in the “processed” meat is causing cancer. Probably due to preservatives and additives that should just be banned from being added to the meat.
Nitrosamines, nitrates and nitriles I think are a big one.
Also they could sell meats not loaded with nitrate preservative's as they have done in my country for many years. It might look a little less pink and a bit more brown, but it tastes great and you VASTLY reduce the carcinogenic compounds.
Processed meats contain nitrites, which are acutely toxic. Not to be confused with nitrates, which are different. Gandhi is spelled Gandhi, btw.
Yeah, easy to get organic bacon, salami, etc. without nitrites. Problem solved.
@@wocket42 Even if you take out the nitrites, the problem is hardly solved due to the trans fat, cholesterol, sodium, heterocyclic amines, lack of minerals, lack of fiber, and lack of antioxidants .
Meat doesn't cause cancer.
Huge fan of the Dr., but have a question. The term used often is processed meat; does this cover all meat? Nasty hot dogs and grass feed beef alike?
Processed meats means meats preserved in nitrates like bologna, hot dogs, bacon, lunchmeats, pepperoni.....
Red meat is a class 2, even if it's not processed.
@@sky4946 Scientific evidence is poor though.
I’d like to see research done on beef vs pork! God called swine an abomination…
God is not real
Dear Dr Greger, why not demonstrate people real health problems. Viewers haven't seen the real plaque, cancer etc. There is no true connection to problems when eaters make their purchase choices.
How much flatulence do wholegrains and legumes cause?
Well, better fart than die!
It can be tough at the beginning but usually once the body adapts to the huge amounts of fibre, it tends to calm down.
Wholegrains cause flatulence? Never observed. Legumes to a degree, but if no sulfur (meat/diary/egg digestion) is added ontop, it almost doesn't stink. But it takes a while (>1 week) until the gut has been cleared. There is no protein deficiency. No need for legume-loading!
Depends on your gut bacteria (which, if you’re eating a meat/animal products based diet, it’s probably pretty limited and can’t handle much fiber) and how quickly you introduce fibrous foods.
Most people know this, but thanks for the obtuseness
When you first start eating them, quite a bit but then your body adjusts over time. I suggest adding them slowly.
I hope it's less than 2 cancers per bacon slice?
You do realize that the thumbnail is making all of us want to run to the grocery store and buy bacon right?
No, not all of us - just those that haven't quite figured out a life is more important than a ten minute meal 😉
Hardly
Greger aught to administer this info through standup comedy!
Sharing this with my wife who insists on eating bacon and making ham sandwiches for our son.
I sympathise with you, it must be a difficult situation for you.
Approach it with love, shoving info in someone’s face never works
If you get them without nitrates can help.
there are vegan childrens books that might help him develop the knowledge and consciousness to decline those things
@@ant9228 Approaching them with love and the info isn't going to work either. Many people only live in the present and do not consider the future consequences of their behaviors. I've seen many family and friends die very prematurely from smoking and poor diet.
Please use thumbnails that don't trigger. That image is repulsive. I'm tempted to hide the video so UA-cam doesn't suggest it to me ever again. So disgusting!
Thanks for trying, and doing, saving many lifes, of humans, And indirectly also of animals. You are one of my hero. And veganism changed my life for health and nutrition. Im not interested in another cancer and i made my research
Indeed. Stay strong. Take a couple garlic powder pills per day and ginger powder to help keep cancer away.
😂
Are these studies “observations studies?”
Joe calls jack, “how much processed meat have you had this year?
Jack says, “maybe 3 times a week”
Joe finds link of processed meat to cancer.
Good thoughts except The studies meet the requirements to be certain enough that they have classed processed meat as certainly may cause cancer. Not a ‘maybe’ a ‘certain’ that’s what type 1 carcinogen means.
Like smoking certainly is carconogenic. It is a type 1 carcenogen.
Unprocessed Red meat is a likely carcinogen.
Hope that makes sense.
@@Melanie____ yes makes scenes. And I not eat processed meat to often, but will wait for the double blind controlled trials.
@@geoffg9721 the evidence is there already :)
But yeah absolutely avoid processed meats whenever possible definitely don’t make habitual. And if you do something carcinogenic.. eat loads of veges.
Eat lots of veges anyway.
With stuff like smoking never start and you’ll never crave it.
And avoid nuclear fall out :)
Does this include Big Macs ?
Does the research support a better outcome if I raise and process my own meat as opposed to the processed meats bought at the store or is it all the same?
Even if there is a correlation, that doesn't prove causation. And, the fact that you can only point to processed meat and not meat, means that even if you could prove causation, it's the processing (adding of chemicals) that is the culprit, not the meat itself. But this is basic logic.
It's incorrect logic and an excuse to continue a poor diet.
Animal products are loaded with harmful bacteria, antibiotics (just to keep the animal alive long enough to butcher it), hormones, dioxins, and a host of other toxins (like TMOs) that can cause serious health problems in humans. An extremely high percentage of all the flesh from the chickens, turkeys, cows, fish, and pigs butchered every year in the U.S. are also contaminated with E.coli. Need I go on?
Bacon is not processed. Its cured.
For them, that's all the same. Just details.
LISTENING ATTENTIVELY HERE WHILE EATING A FULLY LOADED ITALIAN FIREHOUSE SUB: Genoa salami, pepperoni, Virginia honey ham, melted provolone, Italian dressing, and seasonings, served Fully Involved.
Does this include plant based meats?
no because they are not meat.
No, just animal protein
Plant based meats are the worst. Just compare the length of the ingredients list.
So far as I know; meat is not the problem, but the Nitrogen and Nitrates they add to the meat during production which gives it the appealing red or pink colour. That is carsenogenic
That may make processed meat worse but Dr. Campbell, in his books, frequently discusses the carcinogenic effects of animal protein in general.
Then you need to know more, this is also heme iron, saturated and trans fat, hormones, animal protein, arachidonic acid, neu5Gc etc etc
No only that, but a chemical is formed when meat, poultry or fish is cooked at high temperatures, called heterocyclic amines (carcinogens)
First of all you can't tell me that nitrogen has any effect whatsoever or atmosphere and the air we breathe is more nitrogen than anything
There is a study about me from other countries which is grass-fed that has no ill effects whatsoever it's just that in this country we feed our animals a lot of GMO products which are loaded with glyphosate and other Monsanto inventions and that supposedly is the difference between naturally raised beef and monster meat
What about vegan meat substitutes? I doubt vegan "bacon" is especially healthy. I suspect some vegan processed meat substitutes, like vegan hotdogs, have a similar amount of nitrites and sodium. Some popular veggie burgers have very high levels of sodium.
Thankfully, you don't need meat substitutes to live a healthy whole food plant based lifestyle.
Yes they do. Stay away from them as much as you can. Whole foods are best. Although I can't manage that. Too hard. So I have a small amount daily. Today it was a bit of chocolate and a bagel
Processed vegan food is not healthy.
I love bacon. But I love a lot of vegetarian foods. And I love meats. Vegetables. Fruits. I’m literally well rounded.
And if you include junk foods, alcohol and some drugs, maybe you will be even more well rounded?
Everyone loves meat but we have to find alternatives that are good for all.
I'm vegan. I can say I'm a big fan of meat but I'm a bigger fan of not torturing animals. Some people do eat plant based meat and meat's original definition is coming back, it is not meant for only animal flesh, it can be any food now.
@@Mayur_Kedare Our body doesnt love meat tho because it does harm it.
Sounds like you're on a good path thing that I can suggest to you because what I've understood is that other countries let their animals graze what they naturally eat which is grass in our country just keeps our animals lazy and just brings them a lot of glyfosate enriched grains and corn
mmmm bacon
Mmmmm cancer
tasty, tasty cancer . . .
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everything causes cancer that won't stop me from enjoying life.
not whole plants food, not water, this is completely false but this is a convenient argument to ingest all sorts of unhealthy things, they actually protect you from getting cancer and many others health problems.
Harming his only body and getting health problems is not enjoying life.
You mean enjoying death. Your pepperoni is bits of processed dead animals.
@@embraceuncertainty7127 I don't eat meat, I eat fish, but it doesn't matter because no one knows when death will come. My grandma was a heavy smoker and put lard in everything and she lived to be 86. It all depends on your genetics and family history not just what you eat. You live in fear, that's your life. I will live stress free. In fact people with stress free love longer. Fear and stress shorten your life too.
Everything? ha ha ha You may be "enjoying" a premature death too -- 20 to 30 years early.
@@spacechimp5141 Not true. Genetics has been proven to be only about 6% of cancer risk.
None. It causes no cancer.
Source? Mens health magazine?
@@androz38 nope
@@leerigby5735 well... You put up a good argument.
meat whether fresh or processed is the best food for humans
This is ridiculously false
That's what the meat and dairy industry has brainwashed you to believe.
Because Rogan said so? 😂
@@annoyingbutmorallyconsistent I think even Rogan was siding with the vegan when he had the facts in front of him.
@@amandah5478 He was indeed - too bad he forgot so quickly...
@@annoyingbutmorallyconsistent 😫
Non sense