Masoretic Text Vs. The Septuagint
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Pastor Steve Waldron, New Life of Albany - Albany, Ga
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Augustine wrote in his book, The City of God, why he strongly believed that the Septuagint is the preferred version to use. It's worth checking by anyone interested in the LXX.
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Isaiah 53:10 differs between MT and Lxx
Looking at the oldest available Greek fragments, partials, and codices, the Early Church overwhelmingly cited the Septuagint in the NT.
Yes, the Lxx has issues with numbering. Take into consideration the genealogy in Genesis five where Methuselah would have been 955 years old when the flood came yet lived to be 969 years old. Other issues such as Goliath's height of 4 cubits and a span (LXX Approx. 6'6") compared to the MT @ 6 cubits and a span (approx. 9'6). I do not trust the LXX that has also included the apocrypha as scripture.
When the original Hebrew is lost, the MT being written in the original language is second to being almost 1,000 years late. LXX is closer to the Hebrew originals, translated without any possibility of bias against Jesus Christ.
If you find that list drop me a link. Would also like a list of places the AV translators went with an LXX reading in the OT.
The kjv translators wrote that the apostles used the lxx
And then mentioned the monk Jerome’s criticisms of it
Nope. Not in the translators to the readers at all.
They weren’t infallible. They also were highly critical of it.
@@markgushue9482 they mentioned it I have it here
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa yet the used the Septuagint by using virgin in Isaiah 7:14
Bottom line not examined here: Jews created BOTH the GOT (Greek Old Testament) and the MT. The only reason ever mentioned that Jews stopped using the GOT was because Christians (ethnic Jews and otherwise) were fond of using it (since the vast majority of them knew no Hebrew, and Greek was on a meteoric rise during the Hellenistic Age). What kind of excuse do Jewish traditionalists offer? Prejudice and sour grapes! How can a modern student of the Bible calmly accept this nonsensical, biased reasoning??
Like the Jews of the Hellenistic Age, the Early Church had very good reason to use the Greek OT as a primary text because very few among Jews, and later, Christians, knew any Hebrew. As we know from history, even well before Christ, many Jews, especially in Alexandria were no longer speaking Hebrew. Mostly they spoke Aramaic and Greek (the lingua franca), and by ca. -250 to -150?, somebody made their pitch to get the Pentateuch translated in their dominant vernacular of the time, Greek, and they got it. In later years, the other books were gradually translated into Greek as well. No other language would have made any sense. Don't you like having the Bible translated into YOUR language, too? Any good Bible scholar will say that NO translation is perfect. I'm sure that is true of the Greek OT as well, but simply using the MT to the replace the Greek does not necessarily eliminate debate over the quality and accuracy of the OT text. Often, the Greek comes out actually looking BETTER than the MT Hebrew, especially if it agrees with the Dead Sea Scrolls. Then it's called a "superior reading." A lot of study Bibles, e.g., the ESV, utilize the LXX as a means of comparative textual analysis, and sometimes as an alternative reading.
As for the Early Church, it could only grow using a GREEK based text. No other language could have done the job. There would have been no Christian Church or expansion of that Church without the Greek Bible! When Christian writers began their literary output, they CONTINUED to write in Greek. No controversy about THAT Greek.
The fact that Jews eventually "closed ranks" on their OWN previous translation into Greek, a language that they had learned fluently enough to demand their holy scripture be translated into it well BEFORE the ministry of Jesus should not disqualify OUR use of it in favor of the MT, a text which was compiled well AFTER Jesus' ministry, and one which Christians DO have reason to consider with some suspicion.
Only 11% of the Roman Empire spoke Greek.
Q: Did Jesus read the Septuagint? A guy led a prayer group this morning who insisted Septuagint was read in Synagogues in Jesus' day "That's what was available" he said. I don't see how that could be true...
I THINK: the Septuagint was used as a Greek dictionary, but not scripture.
IMHO
Not in synagogues for sure in Israel.
No. Probably not even compiled in Jesus' day.
God assigned the duty of preserving revelation to the priests only, unlike the Septuagint writers.; and wouldn't be read by Jesus or other Jews a synagogue. That the Apostles quoted from it is also another hopeful, but false liberal claim. www.floydnolenjonesministries.com/files/135786321.pdf (see comparisons, chap 3, pg. 43)
Archaeologists uncovered fragments (from the Septuagint) during a dig in a 2nd century BC synagogue in Egypt.
Yes, I’ve done a video listing every BC papyri of the OT in Greek.@@RayMack-xz7xg
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Interesting. If you wish to, what is the name of your video here on YT (if it's here)?
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